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Update: Caps’ Orlov will have phone hearing for hit on Flyers’ Schenn

Mar 2, 2014, 9:46 PM EDT

Update: The NHL will hold a telephone hearing with Orlov on Monday afternoon.


Washington Capitals defenseman Dmitry Orlov already made a big impact on Sunday’s game with two goals against the Philadelphia Flyers, but he gave Philly a five-minute power-play opportunity thanks to this hit on Brayden Schenn:

Many believe that a) Orlov should have been ejected from the game and b) that this could be a suspension-worthy hit. Orlov, 22, received a five-minute charging major on the play after losing his cool following a hard hit by Schenn.

The Flyers scored a goal on that power play to cut a 4-2 Capitals lead to 4-3. Philly eventually won 5-4 in OT.

Orlov hasn’t ever been suspended at the NHL level.

  1. patthehockeyfan - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM

    That was a STUPID hit that Orlov made! Dumb because it 1) was unnecessary, and 2) gave the Flyers a power play (and goal).

    In fairness to Holtby, both the 3rd and 4th goals came with the Caps a man short.

    Orlov should have never made that hit.

    • dcfan4life - Mar 3, 2014 at 12:08 AM

      I was at the game. Orlov was having the best game of his career. It was chippy with the Flyers all game, Orlov involved in a number of scuffles. He then gets decked and does this. I was sitting right in front of where the hit took place and immediately knew it was a major. We lost all momentum and were on our heels the rest of the game. Dumbest hit ive seen all season and it pretty much lost us the game. I just hope he learns from this, because the talents there. Now he just needs to use his head. So frustrating to watch that play…

    • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 11:46 AM

      They were not shorthanded for the 4th goal, they had the goalie pulled. there is a difference “in fairness to Haltby” (Just for the record, it’s not essential to be “fair” to a below average goalie)

      • patthehockeyfan - Mar 3, 2014 at 1:33 PM

        For the 4th goal, the Flyers had six, the Caps five. In arithmetic, that’s a man short.

      • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 2:27 PM

        “there is a difference” didn’t catch on for ya huh?

        They weren’t shorthanded, the other team pulled the goalie. The Caps had 6 guy too, the 6th one had big pads and a mask you couldn’t miss him

  2. fivetozeroingame7 - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:31 PM


  3. phillyphanatic77 - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:38 PM

    He did leave his feet to hit a player who clearly had his back to him for several seconds, the exact type of hit they’re trying to eliminate, but I don’t see Shanny handing down a suspension. Anyway, Schenn is ok and it got the Flyers back in the game… so thanks Dmitry.

    • crosbysuxx - Mar 2, 2014 at 7:32 PM

      I think he will get 1 or 2 games for this. It was retaliatory in nature and Schenn had his back towards him for half the damn period!
      Orlav was pissed because Schenn put him on his butt. He did something stupid and now has to pay the piper. He’s not a dirty player, he just lost his cool. 1 game should set his mind straight.

      • hockey412 - Mar 3, 2014 at 8:34 AM

        Meh. He was given a major penalty…he already paid the piper.

      • crosbysuxx - Mar 4, 2014 at 7:19 PM

        Got 2 games huh? That’s fair.

  4. everyonesuksbutme - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:43 PM

    Can you say suspension? 1 or 2 games should be good. Hopefully after Wednesday mites game….payback is a b*tch!

    • shortsxit34 - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:17 PM

      Schenn wasn’t hurt, so no suspension. Haven’t you learned that by now?

  5. joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:46 PM

    Oh! Hits have always been part of the game, both players are willing participants in this sport. Stop whining.

    • parkway4 - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:33 PM

      I can tell your the guy that watches, but has never played. Stick to NHL 14.

      • joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:42 PM

        Well! Then! You are not as sharp as you think. I’ve played, coached and scouted for a junior major team. I spent 20 years writing player evaluations and participated in drafts. Matter of fact I was the only scout of my team who rated Ian Laperriere as the winger of his class when he was playing Midget AAA, and he went on to have a very very good junior career. 257 Games 132 Goals and 240 Assists. Stick that up your wazoo.

      • shortsxit34 - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:45 PM

        You’ll quickly learn how he feels about certain topics because he will post the same thing over and over again–even if the story isn’t related.

      • grocerystick101 - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:57 PM

        You mean the same Ian Laperriere who had 204 major penalties in his NHL career? I didn’t realize you supported violence in hockey so much…

      • therooneyskilledwebster - Mar 2, 2014 at 6:11 PM

        He’s also genius enough to state that Jonathan Toews ISN’T a Selke candidate. What an “expert”.

      • blomfeld - Mar 3, 2014 at 12:00 AM

        You tell ’em Joseph ! :)

    • 7mantel - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:37 PM

      So is fighting !

      • joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:44 PM

        Yes! Mickey! That was me making a point. Did that go way over your head? No worries! It has happened to me too. 😉

      • 7mantel - Mar 2, 2014 at 6:05 PM


    • blackhawksdynasty - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:56 PM

      OMG joey just shut up already!

      You clearly want the NHL to end up just like women’s hockey. No fighting. No hitting.

      Guess what? No fighting + no hitting = no longer hockey. Thus, no fans.

      You’re not going to get your way, so for everybody’s sake, please find a more worthwhile cause to fight for. Your crybaby antics are old and fruitless.

      • joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:58 PM

        You shut up and FU.

      • blackhawksdynasty - Mar 2, 2014 at 6:07 PM


        That’s very creative, kid.

        Don’t you have some imaginary scouting to do?


      • joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 6:44 PM

        No more scouting. Gave it up! Didn’t pay the bills. BTW, I love to watch your Hawks and Toews play, and I think Quenneville should be the next head coach for Team U.S.A. Q has them playing extremely well. Defense wins championship. Go Hawks!

  6. watermelon1 - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:51 PM

    This wasn’t one of those boarding hits where the guy was in the danger zone where he goes down before hitting boards. He was right there. This happens a LOT and is not called.

    What irks me is how this was right as the puck was there. Meanwhile they let hits happen 4 seconds after the puck leaves simply because a guy is facing a certain way? In my opinion that is more dirty than anything in this particular play.

    • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 11:51 AM

      Because when your back hits the boards, it is a natural way for your body to bend. When you go face first, it isn’t. I would think any 7 year old could figure that out

  7. puckyouall - Mar 2, 2014 at 4:53 PM

    Every team has it’s idiots. Too bad these guys don’t respect each other enough to stop this kind of garbage. Why should fans worry about any of these guys getting their neck broken, when they don’t respect each other and make an effort to stop this kind of thing? It’s ridiculous when a guy has 3 or 4 seconds to avoid one of these hits but, they don’t.
    If the league really wanted to stop this they could do it. When they wanted to stop the bench clearing brawls they did it with the automatic 10 game suspension rule. Evidently, it doesn’t concern them that much or they would do something.

    • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 11:53 AM

      They won’t make anything automatic that has to do with a judgment call (which is a good idea, considering how lousy they are at making judgment calls). Leaving the bench has no judgment, the guy left or he didn’t

  8. shortsxit34 - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:42 PM

    The thing that pisses me off makes this hit so stupid that:

    1) It was premeditated

    2) It wasn’t a “hockey play.” Hits from behind happen, and though they’re dangerous, sometimes accidents just happens. This wasn’t a hockey play, it was a guy that saw a player in a vulnerable position and deliberately went after him in retaliation for a clean hit.

    When Schenn turns, Orlov had from the faceoff dot to stop (and they were barely even coasting), but he never even looked at the puck. He is zoned in on Schenn’s numbers, and leaves his feet for a hit to the head.

    How does that not get a game misconduct when it was a lot worse than most of the boarding penalties they call. The hit doesn’t look as dangerous as seeing a guy thrown headfirst into the boards, but most of the times those are accidents. This was a clear attempt to injure and they decide not to give a game this time?

  9. nicofthenorthstar - Mar 2, 2014 at 5:56 PM

    Should not be suspended. Schenn knew exactly what he was doing and Orlov took the bait. Schenn skated in slow and turned his back. He opted not to protect himself an instead played to draw the penalty. He certainly has better awareness than to accidentally put himself in that position. That’s how it appeared to me anyway.

    • chaseutley - Mar 3, 2014 at 12:52 AM

      Agreed…. for the most part. Schenn baited him and took the hit. But just because he was baiting the hit, doesn’t mean Orlov should have taken the bait.
      Penalty? Definitely.
      Dumb and Undiscliplined? Sure.
      Suspendable? Probably not, but debatable. Your neighbor leaving his window open doesn’t give you permission to sleep with his wife.

    • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 11:57 AM

      Wait, so you two geniuses think Shenn’s thoughts were “I’ll slow down a bit and play the puck, and the logical result would be for him to hit me directly in the back, leave his feet, and ram his elbow the back of my head”? That is what went on?

      Not the clown just seeing red because he just got DESTROYED by a CLEAN hit on the other end of ice?

      Yeah, that is definitely an objective view

  10. nicofthenorthstar - Mar 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM

    Somebody got under joey’s skin! Classy response.

    • isithockeyseasonyet - Mar 3, 2014 at 8:40 AM

      So much so that he had to go to his other user name to give himself support

  11. crosbysuxx - Mar 2, 2014 at 7:58 PM

    So change it up a little;
    Replace Schenn (6’1″ 200lbs.) with Giroux (5’10” 185lbs.)
    Replace Orlav ( 6’0″ 200lbs.) with Erskine (6’4″ 230lbs.)

    Now you have the same kind of hit, Giroux goes to the boards to play the puck and checks his 6:00 real quick, and Erskine takes 3 or 4 strides and leaves his feet, hitting him square in the numbers. Think you might have an injury then?

    Stupid hit, could have been worse. Orlav got knocked on his butt and got pissed. Lucky for him Schenn didn’t get hurt, and I think Orlav knows he f-ed up.

    The last thing I want is the NHL to turn into the NFL or a game as exciting as badminton or golf, but these guys are bigger, faster, stronger, and wear hard capped pads that resemble football pads. 20 years ago there were not a lot of 6’2″+, 200lbs+, forwards running around the rink at the speeds these cats are now. The fine line between playing hockey and wussifying the game is hard to walk, glad it’s not my job!

  12. slammed81 - Mar 2, 2014 at 9:43 PM

    Grocery u mean lappy the guy who would do anything to win block shots, fight and yes score an occasional goal.. But u bring up 204 major penalties… I can’t wait when they take fighting out of the game… The rats come out with cheap shots with no repercussions then what the game will go to the rats careful what u wish for

  13. antmel30 - Mar 2, 2014 at 10:33 PM

    Fighting is going nowhere anytime soon. Anyone who wants fighting out of hockey is a complete dope. Don’t give me the look at the Olympics or Stanley cup playoffs. One those gm are more exciting because of the atmosphere and prose at stake. Two some of the best rivalries and playoff series all have the same thing in common a bunch of fights or brawls between the teams. How do the media go from glorifying fighting just two years ago when Pitt and philly met in playoffs and no one can change channel because of all the fighting and rough stuff going on between the teams. Who can forget the red wings vs avalanche brawl with Roy and Vernon. No matter the arena every person in the arena or out at bar pays attention to fight or responds when they see fight. It’s electric exciting and an atmosphere changer. For all the pussies who hate fighting in hockey aren’t true fans of the sport, never played or are one of the pussies who have played that cry every time they get touched or bodied.

    • joey4id - Mar 2, 2014 at 11:04 PM

      Atta boy! You tell them. You know hockey. Slow clap.

    • capsfan14 - Mar 3, 2014 at 5:16 AM

      No, the fans that only watch hockey for the fights and the physicallity aren’t true fans of the sport. Fighting should only be used as a means of protecting yourself, nothing else. Staged fights are stupid, and the goons that are brought in to fight only ruin the beautiful game. If the only play that electrifies you is a fight, then you should probably watch boxing.

      • sumkat - Mar 3, 2014 at 12:02 PM

        Where, anywhere in his post, did he say the “only play” that gets him excited is a fight?

        Must be a liberal, lose an argument, just either misquote the other guy, or make stuff up

      • capsfan14 - Mar 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM

        Open your eyes. First of all, it wasn’t an argument, merley two different opinions being stated. Second of all, antmel aggresivley put out the opinion that fighting belongs in hockey, stating that attention is diverted when a hockey fight errupts, and essentially stating that fighting should be a big part of hockey. Now, I never said that antmel himself only enjoys hockey fights, but that “If” a certain individual only watches hockey for fights, this said individual should refer to boxing. Sorry if that was unclear. Third, good job bringing politics into a hockey forum, stay classy. Although I should expect nothing less from a conservative, bringing politics into issues where they don’t belong.

  14. cupquest - Mar 3, 2014 at 9:33 AM

    Just not seeing much there in that hit. As you can see Schenn is bracing for contact anyway. Just not much there. Moving along…

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