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NHL won’t hold hearing for Brown’s high hit on Murray

Feb 7, 2014, 9:51 AM EDT

Los Angeles Kings captain Dustin Brown was handed a minor charging penalty after knocking into the head of Columbus Blue Jackets defenseman Ryan Murray at 5:16 of the second period of Thursday’s game.

It looks like that will be the extent of his punishment as the NHL doesn’t plan to hold a hearing over the incident, according to the Columbus Dispatch’s Aaron Portzline.

Although Brown clearly nailed Murray’s head, it didn’t look like Brown’s feet left the ice before he made contact and Murray’s moving downwards prior to the hit. Those might have been factors in the NHL’s decision.

You can see the hit below:

“It’s a fine hit…At this point, I don’t know if we’re allowed to hit anymore,” said Brown after the game.

Meawnhile, Blue Jackets coach Todd Richards suggested that Brown took advantage of a vulnerable player.

Murray spent some time in the dressing room, but ultimately finished the game. Still, Richards was quick to caution that he might not be out of the woods yet.

“Even though (Murray) came back, you never know what tomorrow morning is going to bring,” Richards told the Columbus Dispatch.

The Blue Jackets will face the San Jose Sharks tonight.

  1. sjsharks66 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:04 AM

    Any other dirty player like Brown catches 3-5+ games for this same hit.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:07 AM

      and I was about to write, sjsharks66, tell us how you feel? You’re so clueless.

      • ignath - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM

        Guarantee you Matt Cooke would have gotten a hearing for that hit.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:40 AM

        No way! I guarantee it! No rules we’re broken deserving a hearing.

      • skr213 - Feb 7, 2014 at 4:20 PM

        Good thing no one fought over the hit, then Joey’s tune would certainly change!

    • shaundre93 - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:57 PM

      I hope this makes you feel a little better 😉

    • blomfeld - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:31 PM


      Hello friends … just back here from a short, yet ‘much needed’ getaway. Anyway, I saw that we Kings have finally put an end to the mid-season ‘malaise’ which had recently befallen us and so I for one say ‘praise be’ to that ! As for all this ‘metro-sexual’ whining about Captain Brown taking out another ‘no name’ with nothing more that a ‘red-blooded’ hockey play ? … well, all one can say to that is ‘go cry me a river’ my dearest valentine ! The bottom line friends is that Dustin Brown is the ‘quintessential’ NHL captain today and he has absolutely ‘nothing’ to apologize for ! His is a game driven by values and selflessness, or a ‘marriage’ of old school valiance with contemporary prudence if you will. I get positively ‘sick and tired’ reading all these ‘metro-sexual’ protestations from people who think that hockey ought to go the way of the brassiere. If you fruit cakes can’t handle man’s hockey, then I say ‘piss off’ right now and go and chase some bubbles blowing in the wind !

      GO KINGS GO !!! … TODAY, TOMORROW AND FOREVER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      *** NHL’s Most ‘Red-Blooded’ Captains as per the Sports Desk @ Stern Magazine ***

      1) Dustin Brown
      2) Sidney Crosby
      3) Henrik Sedin
      4) Jonathan Toews
      5) Claude Giroux

      28) Shane Doan (liar)
      29) Alexander Ovechkin (narcissist)
      30) Brian Gionta (tax evader)

  2. comeonnowguys - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:10 AM

    I don’t think he should be suspended for this particular, but how many of of these “borderline” incidents are going happen before he even gets a hearing?

    There will be a point where he lands a clearly dirty and suspension-worthy hit, and he’ll get off with little more than a slap on the wrist because of “no documented history.”

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:17 AM

      You don’t get suspended because fans call for it. Players get suspended when when rules have designed to protect players have been broken. If anything, you should be reading the rule book, and then offer how the rules should be modified to satisfy yours and many other’s need to see Brown get suspended.

      • davebabychreturns - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:23 AM

        Joey’s NHL: a place where a guy can run around every night, getting his arms up and even leaving his feet to hit players who are vulnerable in the head, but lord have mercy on anyone who tries to punch that guy.

        You do realize that a lot of head injuries come from plays like this one right? Brown saw Murray with his head down and took his shot because it was there.

        I don’t think this one was especially bad, but Brown did hit Murray in the head and he did it with his arm, which is comfortably into that grey area IMO.

        He does this kind of thing all the time and clearly has no respect for his fellow players on the ice. I don’t know how you legislate that into the rules and I doubt anybody else does either, so as a fan all I can really do is hope someone sees Dustin trying to play a puck in his feet one day (although given his fourth liner production this year, he might as well just stop trying to play the puck ever) and creams him hard enough to knock the rest of his teeth out.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:36 AM

        Dave! Dave! Dave! It is legal to check a player as long as he is deemed to be in possession of the puck. Puck possession is determined as described in the rule book. Head shots are also illegal as described in the rule book. Arms up with contact to the head is illegal according to the rule book, and so is leaving your feet prior to making contact with the opposing playing. Targeting the head, and making it the primary point of contact is also illegal as indicated in the rule book.

        It is legal to hit a player with his head down (no rule against that in the rule book). Brown clearly started to GLIDE towards Murray when he had the puck. It’s on Murray to keep his head up. Why? because it is legal to check a player who has possession of the puck as long as it is within the limits of the rules? Elbow tucked in, lead with the shoulder, and without using his stick.

        So, what is it you don’t understand is beyond me. It would help if you got yourself a copy of the rule book and read it.

        “Wisdom is not a product of schooling but of the lifelong attempt to acquire it.” – Albert Einstein

      • hockey412 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM

        So, what about Gryba’s suspension for his hit on Eller? Would you say that suspension is consistent with this no-hearing decision, and why?

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:53 AM

        Are you referring to the hit that happend last season in the playoffs?

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:57 AM

        Certainly consistent with the no-hearing decision on the Orpik hit on Eriksson.

      • hockey412 - Feb 7, 2014 at 2:21 PM

        Agreed – not arguing any point, really, just getting your opinion.

      • js261oc - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM

      • comeonnowguys - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:22 AM

        Please. If the various sports leagues suspended all the guys I didn’t like just because I didn’t like them, they’d have to contract teams. It’s not about that.

      • 2qswing - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:35 AM

        joey please oh please read us the rule book again will you. did you read us the rule book when Weber smashed Zettebergs head into the boards during the playoffs and got no suspension? Not everything is in the rulebook. sometimes you just know a cheap shot when you see it. this guy is going to really hurt someone someday because he has no respect for his fellow players. So you go on reading the rule book. Hockey fans know it when they see it and in this guys case they see it over and over and over.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:42 AM

        Too bad Shanny and his team are not hockey fans. Right? otherwise they get all the calls right, which means they got every other call wrong. Look! I’m not saying Sanny and his team are perfect. But! They sure as hell better the fans. They may use certain parameters do decide whether to suspend ot not based on their knowledge of hockey details. Best example of that was the explanation given on the non suspension of Wilson hit on Schenn.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:16 PM

        hockey412, to answer your question, it’s fairly easy to deduce that the NHL is not consistent when comparing the Gryba suspension to the Brown non suspension. That’s because most of us use our judgement with no or few data points to form our opinion. It was a check to the head. In the rule book there are provisions permitting Shanny and his team to dish out suspensions and length of suspensions based on the severity of injuries sustained by the player who was the recipient of a hit. So, head shot + injury = 2 game suspension.

        Brown was skating north/south and Murray was skating the opposite direction, and was in possession of the puck. Every LA player skating towards Murray had right to hit Murray as long as they were within the guidelines. In this case Murray is responsible for protecting himself. It is not Brown’s responsibility in this scenario to avoid contact. Brown committed to make the hit, but just prior to making contact Murray reached for the puck, and went down on one knee.

        If two players skating at full throttle come face to face with one of them having possession of the puck, then that player is fair game and the other can body check that player, and sometimes the consequences will be unfortunate, but there will be no suspensions as long as the hit was technically sound, and within the guidelines of a legal body check.

  3. blues1988 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:12 AM

    man i hate this guy

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:24 AM

      How would you feel about him if he was on your team?

      • comeonnowguys - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:16 AM

        I don’t hate him. I strongly dislike him. I’d dislike him probably a little more if he was on the team I rooted for. As I did Daniel Carcillo.

  4. nunan - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:16 AM

    The player clearly changes the position of his head right before contact so the player initiating contact can’t be held responsible. The right call.

    • raiderufan - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:05 AM

      Exactly and if Brown attempts to stop, quick swerve around him or even just run into him without initiating a hit it’s very likely Murray get’s kneed directly in the face/forehead.

  5. btlpper68 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:29 AM

    LIke are you guys suprised? Another acidental/unfortunate hit say…. The Dustin brown special

  6. btlpper68 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    A Torres cooke gets suspended for this no doubt in my mind. Torres got suspended becusse still was leaning over last year same situation but hey brown could murder a guy and maybe only be fined

  7. sjsharks66 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    EXACTLY!! This one may not have been THAT bad, but I have said it time and time again. How many “questionable” hits does Brown get away with?? Is it going to take him ending someones career to finally have to sit down with the league? When that happens they will say he is not a repeat offender and get 2 games. Just watch, it’s coming. Sooner or later he is going to do serious damage to a player ( like he did to Hertl ).

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM

      They’re only questionable in your mind. Stop looking through your teal tainted glasses.

      • tved12 - Feb 7, 2014 at 2:27 PM

        I’m a Wild fan, not wearing “Teal tinted glasses” and Brown is the dirtiest star level player in the league. Not only does he throw dirty hits constantly, then he’s not man enough to take ownership of them.

        That said, I don’t think this play was dirty, more unfortunate. I’m more concerned about the dozen or so dirty hits he’s made that have injured people.

  8. erbaker67 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:32 AM

    Dustin Brown had already committed to the hit. Murray put himself in that position. He took a hit to make a play. If you look at the image for the article, Murray’s knee is almost on the ice. What is Brown supposed to do? His feet never left the ice until after contact. Was the head the principal point of contact? Sure. Murray’s head is right in line with Dustin Browns arm/elbow. You want Dustin Brown to jump out of the way? I agree that Dustin Brown can be a dirty player, but this hit was far from it.

  9. sjsharks66 - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:38 AM

    I have to agree with what was said about Joey. Is fine when players ( specifically DB, I have noticed. ) knee, elbow or board players. God forbid Mike Brown and Hendricks drop the gloves though. Then it’s disgusting, suspension worthy and blah blah.

    As for if DB was on my team? He is not and I am glad. Overpaid 4th liner who leads his team by injuring players.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:50 AM

      It’s not fine to knee, elbow, or board players. These infractions and others are clearly written in the NHL rule book (which I’m sure you’ve never read). Rules have to be broken in order to be asked to speak with Shanny. He and his team actually use the rule book to make their decisions. We know you prefer Torres who played 630 games and has 490 PIMs,

    • js261oc - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:07 AM

      sjsharks66=douche… maybe you should switch to soccer or maybe invest in a rule book! You must be a newbie, WE forgive your ignorance.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:12 AM

        We do??????????????? :-)

  10. sjsblitz - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:46 AM

    Why is it that every Kings fan is an idiot in some way

    • js261oc - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

      Must be a Cup thing… oh right, you sharks fans wouldn’t understand that! 😉

      • sjsblitz - Feb 7, 2014 at 1:40 PM

        ^ proven idiot, btw glad it took you 46 years to get

      • skr213 - Feb 7, 2014 at 6:57 PM

        Kings fans are like a girl who just got a boob job – incessant need to flaunt something you only just got, but trying to act like you’ve had them all along.

  11. muckleflugga - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    guarantee this joey … pull your head and rule book out of your ass … for once

    like orpik, brown knew damn well he had a vulnerable player in his sights but stepped-up anyway … it was a goon shot … with little regard for murray’s health

    i’d like to think brown had the wits to know he was operating close to the rules but … i’d like to hear how anyone can argue brown was able to measure potential for harm

    would the league have been keener to discipline brown if murray has suffered a broken neck …?

    brown is demonstrably one of the stupidest pricks who has ever embarrassed the professional game … he does not appear to get it … not unlike yourself

    as davebabychreturns says, brown demonstrated little respect for his opponent, and is due a right good throttling … sometimes all that is left is a good beating

    me, i think it all went to hell in a hand basket when they banned caning in schools and took the cattle prod out of the hands of teachers

    bzzzt bzzt bzzzzt if you don’t eat your meat, you can’t have any pudding bzzzt bzzzt

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:09 AM

      So much emotion…. “brown is demonstrably one of the stupidest pricks who has ever embarrassed the professional game … he does not appear to get it” I don’t know him personally, so I can’t say that he’s a stupid prick.

      Brown committed to making the hit prior to Murray stretching for the puck head down and dropping to one knee. By so doing he changed the height of his head at the last second just prior to Brown making contact. Brown was not targeting the head. If you want to suspend players for every head contact then that will have to be written in the rule book as such, which, BTW, the GMs refused to allow such a rule to be included back in 2011.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:14 AM

      A goon shot! So, Thornton on Orpik was attempted murder. Right? C’mon! Flugga!

  12. bruinpred - Feb 7, 2014 at 10:49 AM

    Same as the Orpik hit on Eriksson. Legal but wrong, taking advantage of a vulnerable player. All bad hits can’t be legislated out of the game so the players have some responsibility. Does McGrattan legally have to let a guy he just knocked down stand up before he hits him again? No, but he does because he is honorable. Brown, Orpik, Kronwell are not. They are headhunters hiding behind the rules.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:10 AM

      If we want to avoid these types of hits, then the NHL has to change the rule book.

    • wtfkwp - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:21 AM

      The player MADE HIMSELF vulnerable after it was too late to avoid the hit.

  13. wtfkwp - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    The hit wasn’t high. Murray was low…and the replay shows he moved his head INTO the hit.

  14. nicofthenorthstar - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:15 AM

    It’s DB, supplemental discipline was never a consideration. This guy gets away with more borderline dirty play.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:22 PM

      Ok! I don’t disagree that DB plays on the edge. So, here’s what we need to be added in the rule book.

      “Any player deemed to be borderline dirty shall be subject to supplemental discipline under Rule 28.”

      Would that work?

  15. flash8910 - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:18 AM

    I really don’t know why, but Brown is like the golden boy of the NHL. He can do no wrong. All the questionable hits over the year (this one, Hertl)…no suspensions. He must have some serious incriminating pictures of Shanahan.

  16. js261oc - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:29 AM

    There was NOTHING wrong with this hit. Learn the rules… hell, learn HOCKEY! If you want to place blame on anyone… place on the NHL! In there efforts to “protect” players… they have made them into soccer players. The amount of diving and shying away from hits is rediculous! 10 years ago, Murray wouldn’t have been skating around the rink with his head down and he sure in the hell wouldn’t have tried to find the fetal position when he saw the hit coming. This was on Murray… BUT, if you must need someone to cry about because your player got the worst of the deal… feel free to blame the NHL for trying to NBA-atize the game of hockey!

    • js261oc - Feb 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

      Oh and furthermore…. to all you whiney-@ss people complaining that Brown is a dirty player that gets away with murder… consider the fast that Shanny and the NHL are suspension happy and Brown has been named alternate captain for the last two Olympic teams! If they could suspend him, you can bet they wouldn’t hesitate! The fact that they haven’t should tell you crybabies that you might need to brush up on your so called hockey knowledge! Oh, and Also, Brown was named 2010–11 NHL Foundation Player Award for the player that “player “who applies the core values of (ice) hockey—commitment, perseverance and teamwork—to enrich the lives of people in his community”. Dustin Brown is respected in the NHL… although probably not the teams he’s victimized!

      • Lupy Nazty Philthy - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:07 PM

        NHL suspensions don’t apply to the Olympics.

        This hit wasn’t dirty though… just a bad move by Murray putting himself in danger. Something WAY too many players do these days. When I played hockey they thought us how to take a hit and to keep our heads up. Today it seems like they’re tought how to draw penalties instead. So many guys skate with their heads down like this, or turn their back to the checker before getting hit into the boards.

        The problem is the WWE-level refs that run the NHL are too stupid to tell the difference between reality and embellishments will call anything. As long as they do players will keep trying to take advantage.

      • 2qswing - Feb 7, 2014 at 2:42 PM

        Al Capone was voted outstanding citizen of the year twice in Chicago

      • comeonnowguys - Feb 7, 2014 at 2:56 PM

        Point to me where I said he gets away with murder.

    • 2qswing - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM

      Tell me where in your precious rule book does it say you cant put your hand behind a guys head and smash it down in to the boards? That exactly what Shea Weber did to Zetteberg in the playoffs two years ago right in front of the entire hockey world. No suspension. Where soes it say you can fine a coach based on the players he puts on the ice? That happened this year.
      Point is, not everything is written in a rule book covering every possible scenario. Sometimes you just know it when you see it. “learn hockey you say?” how about you get your nose out of the rule book and enter reality. This guy is going to really hurt someone someday because he attempts to injure on a regular basis. NHL is simply the enabler.
      When Derek McKenzie boarded Oliver Ekman Larson a few weeks ago he got 3 games and he deserved it. When Dustin Brown paralyses a player, you can run to your rule book join the enablers. Yes the NHL is part of the problem. Oh and you want to end diving like I do? START CALLING IT. That IS in the rulebook but is rarely called.

      • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 5:14 PM

        There are provisions in the rule book which allows supplemental discipline for the scenarios you just described. Read it.

  17. itswhereyourmindsat - Feb 7, 2014 at 12:50 PM

    keep your head up son! what a crushing hit! brown might not score much right now but he redeems himself with stuff like this. That’s why he was named co-captain for team USA. He’s an intimidator. GKG!!!! awesome win as well. very much needed

  18. spochiefsfan - Feb 7, 2014 at 1:42 PM

    This guy is going to have to kill someone before he gets disciplined. Jeez Louise.

    • ron05342 - Feb 7, 2014 at 1:54 PM

      Jeez Louise, you are a moron. Clean hit, and the charging call was bogus. Maybe interference.

  19. 2qswing - Feb 7, 2014 at 2:33 PM

    I love all these internet tough guys telling nhl players to just “keep your head up” like its that simple.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 5:15 PM

      From the moment you are kid playing organized hockey you are taught to keep your head up. Noting new.

      • 2qswing - Feb 7, 2014 at 5:38 PM

        not sure what that proves but …ok. Also off point.

    • joey4id - Feb 7, 2014 at 5:54 PM

      It’s relatively simple for an NHL player to keep his head up because they are trained to do so.

  20. muckleflugga - Feb 7, 2014 at 3:22 PM


    the more remarkable thing is these same internet tough guys believe the entire game of hockey can be played without a player having to put his head down to locate a puck in a scramble or in his own feet or anywhere else it might be before gaining possession

    following their heads-up protocol is the belief players have some sort of super human ability to find loose pucks while simultaneously scanning the trees for knuckle-dragging apes like brown

    watchers rather than players tend to formulate a fictionalized reality as it pertains to contact hockey … seeded in a cherryesque fantasy of manhood tied to rock-em-sock-em collections or video games

    hockey would grind to a halt if players were not permitted to risk looking for the puck … drilling a guy in full flight while in possession of the puck is not the same as drilling a guy fishing for the puck … players like brown and proponents of his style are simply unable to make the distinction

    a few sessions of serious full contact hockey would get their minds straight

  21. shutyourfivehole - Feb 7, 2014 at 5:02 PM

    I sure hope all the Dustin Brown defenders are poised to also defend the hit that someone (hopefully soon) lays on Mr “Plays on the Edge” and gives him a concussion or blows out his knee. Because I’m sure it will look just like one of the many hits Brown gets away with all the time.

    • wtfkwp - Feb 8, 2014 at 12:35 PM

      Getting injured is, sadly, part of the game, and he’s been injured. You could stand to consider the RULES when you rant like that.

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