Skip to content

Wingels: Brown declined fight, ‘doesn’t want to own up’ to Hertl hit

Jan 28, 2014, 4:43 PM EDT

Captain Dustin Brown #23 of the Los Angeles Kings talks to a teammate prior to a faceoff in the second period of Game Two of the Western Conference Final against the Chicago Blackhawks during the 2013 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at United Center on June 2, 2013 in Chicago, Illinois. The Blackhawks defeated the Kings 4-2.
(June 1, 2013 - Source: Jamie Squire/Getty Images North America) Getty Images

From CSN Bay Area:

Tommy Wingels offered Dustin Brown a chance to drop the gloves on Monday. Twice.

Both times, Brown declined, according to the Sharks’ forward.

“I guess he doesn’t want to own up to it,” Wingels said on Tuesday. “There’s many other opportunities, right?”

Wingels was seeking revenge for the hit Brown laid on Sharks rookie Tomas Hertl on Dec. 19 — one that sidelined Hertl with a knee injury and put the remainder of his season in jeopardy. On Monday, San Jose said Hertl’s in the “infant stages of rehab” after undergoing surgery.

Brown was tossed from the Dec. 19 affair and the two sides didn’t meet until last night — a 1-0 L.A. win — so Wingels had plenty of time to think, and discuss, the incident.

“Intensified [the rivalry] a bit, I think,” Wingels explained. “We weren’t happy, and I certainly wasn’t with the way things were handled, and the play itself.”

Following the game, Brown said the referees got the kneeing major call wrong, which prompted Sharks GM Doug Wilson to say he was “disappointed” in Brown’s lack of concern for Hertl.

This is just the latest chapter in what’s become a very heated rivalry between the California clubs. The two engaged in a spirited seven-game series last postseason, which included a number of barbs (see here and here) and Raffi Torres‘ huge hit on Jarret Stoll, one that got Torres suspended for the duration of the series.

159 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. jjregan21 - Jan 28, 2014 at 4:49 PM

    Not surprised in the least…

    • tronn25 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:17 PM


      On second thought, put this in your back pocket so that you have another excuse to justify an early post-season exit. I’ll even give you a few more on the house:

      Thorton’s beard restricts his peripheral vision… otherwise you could have won the pacific.

      Marleau ate a bad pepperchini from the airport Quiznos, and that’s why he hasn’t shown up all year.

      Boyle once had a tail, which was was later surgically removed, and that’s why he sometimes has no clue where he is on the ice

      • bsaures - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:31 PM

        You do realize thaat Marleau has more points than all the LA players so far this year?

      • phutchin77 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:50 PM

        Uhm you know that the Kings have never actually won the Pacific right?

      • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:26 PM

        The Kings haven’t been a high scoring team ever since they moved to a more defensive style of play back when Terry Murray was hired so whipping out stats and having a point measuring contest never really means anything.

        Also, no one brags about winning a division, conference or the president’s trophy unless it was on the way to a Cup win.

      • c9castine - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

        wow i see a lot of sore loser sharks fans here. this one guy is even trying to convince people that winning the regular season division title is better than winning the stanley cup.

        it wasnt a dirty hit, and dustin brown has no business fighting tommy dingle-berry either. i don’t blame him. stupid, stupid stupid.

        and why the hell would brown be concerned about Hertl? what does he care about that kids knee? suck it up and move on sharks, you guys look and sound like whiners.

    • charlieconway96 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:25 PM

      And as a Kings fan, I hang my head in shame.

      • socaldave80 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:47 PM

        That’s because your not a KINGS fan…

        You should feel ashamed to be a hockey fan, Pretending to be a fan of a team and saying that crap…

        And it’s fans like you that give Hockey a bad name…

      • charlieconway96 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:55 PM

        Ah yes Dave, my borderline religious emotional investment in cheering for this specific team and watching stats and story lines for the majority of my life has all been fake! I didn’t even know it until just now!

        I will now turn a blind eye to the “code” of hockey (where a player is challenged to fight after injuring an opponent).

        And while I don’t necessarily think this particular hit was intentional, I shall also turn a blind eye to our fearless leader’s past knee on knee transgressions and follow him into the glorious and blinding white light that is Stanley Cup glory!

        Please accept me into the fold of true hockey fans, the ones with good names.

    • blomfeld - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:35 PM


      a few things friends, which are ‘painfully’ clear here …

      1) the Sharks are ‘acutely’ envious of our Stanley Cup championship

      2) Captain Brown has always ‘held the line’ with honor

      3) Joe Thornton sports undeniable ‘Bronze Age’ features

      4) the majority of Shark fans probably possess ‘huge’ collections of Liberace music

      5) the LA Kings are without a doubt the ‘sexiest & toughest’ team in the business today ! :)

      • areaman714 - Jan 29, 2014 at 3:07 AM

        If the Kings are as sexy as you say they are, shouldn’t they be scoring a lot more?

      • bsaures - Jan 29, 2014 at 5:37 PM

        Brown holding the line with honor is about as accurate as saying that Edmonton will win the cup this year in other words a load of bull.

        How can he hold the line if he is always running away like a coward. He is an embarrassment to the USA and all pro sports.

      • blomfeld0 - Jan 29, 2014 at 8:52 PM

        omg who the hell cares @blomfeld imposter honkey

    • cup612 - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:30 PM

      Oh Sharks.. Ladies, don’t get your panties in a bunch! Time to move on..

  2. nolockoutpricks - Jan 28, 2014 at 4:55 PM

    brown is a worthless POS and doesnt belong in the game. hope someone takes him out for good

    • iregisteredtocommentonyouridiocy - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:12 PM

      Says the guy with Raffi Torres on his team.

      • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:50 PM

        That doesn’t make his statement invalid. They’re BOTH chumps…

      • crashq - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:11 PM

        Actually Torres cleaned up his act after his major suspension for the hit on Hossa in the playoffs. He has 17 penalty minutes in 39 games with 2012-2013; only 4 of those in his 11 games with San Jose.

        Jarret Stoll even said that the playoff hit was a legal hit.. If you watch the video,Torres realizes that Stoll isn’t paying attention and eases up at the last minute, but not soon enough. Torres’ suspension was based on past transgressions, not that hit. Anyone else gets off with no suspension if they have no previous history.

        I am obviously a Sharks fan, but like Darryl Sutter and the Kings. The Ducks on the other hand…

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:29 PM

      So because you don’t really care too much for the guy, you feel it’s not enough to offend him but wish that he gets in a career-ending incident? At least you are being level-headed about the whole thing…..

  3. tdaveniii - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:01 PM

    His inclusion on the U.S. team is going to make it difficult for me. Maybe I have to cast my lot with the Swedes.

    • cofran2004 - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:06 AM

      Unacceptable. If I were canadian, I’d still root for the canadian team, despite the fact that crosby is the team captain. You don’t pick a different team to root for because you dislike one guy.

      • tdaveniii - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:26 AM

        Is it possible I was joking to make a point?

    • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:37 PM

      Is it possible you’re a dick?

      • tdaveniii - Jan 30, 2014 at 6:12 PM


  4. President Charles Logan - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:06 PM

    The bitter, loser Cup-less Sharks fans are out on full force today

    • tdaveniii - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:16 PM

      Cup-less? Sadly, this is true. Not sure how that’s relevant.

      Bitter? Yes, about Brown’s cheapshot ending Hert’s awesome rookie campaign.

      The sad reality is that even King’s fans — at least the rational one — admit that Brown is dirty and they wish he’d rein it in. So, I’ll take some bitterness over blinders any day.

      • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:47 PM

        If the roles were reversed, the Sharks had won the Cup with the Kings in the losers’ circle, would Sharks fans hate all that is L.A. so deeply? I have a feeling that it is just the fact that the SJ team is in every way more talented than the Kings and have been for a while now, they just couldn’t get it done and the Kings could.

      • skr213 - Jan 29, 2014 at 1:32 AM

        ^ cyber: did you just start watching hockey yesterday? This has been an intense rivalry for many many years prior to the kings winning the Cup. Learn some history!!

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:39 PM

        To nocals, every time they play socal, it’s an “intense rivalry.” it’s because they’re hateful people to the core.

    • phutchin77 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:42 PM

      Congratulations. The Kings are 1 for 46 in Cups per season. That is slightly better than the Sharks 0 for 22. The good news is that we still have 24 years to match the Kings! It must be a lot more gratifying to miss the playoffs half the time and catch lightning in a bottle one year than to actually play meaningful hockey year in year out.

      • pirovash88 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:33 PM

        Lol, did you seriously just say that, is that the newest Shark argument. It took the Kings 46 years to win a Cup so it makes the win less meaningful? Wow, that’s the most ridiculous comment i’ve ever read on this site.

        What the hell is meaningful hockey? Making the playoffs for 8 consecutive years and continuing to choke? If that’s what you’re referring to as meaningful then forgive me for wanting zero part in your disappointments.

      • imleftcoast - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:20 PM

        You can’t be serious. Darryl Sutter’s brand of hockey is scintillating. Kings are going to ride 1-0 victories to a second Cup. Dustin Brown shouldn’t be engaging in cheap shots if he’s not going to back it up. I’m still not convinced he was trying to avoid Hertl. I think he just sold it.

      • President Charles Logan - Jan 29, 2014 at 12:26 AM

        bottom line is you are a playoff failure franchise , always have been always will be

      • socaldave80 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        At least we have a Cup to brag about.. :-p That’s better then none… Winning a lot of games means nothing without the Big Prize…

      • phutchin77 - Jan 29, 2014 at 6:43 PM


        That doesn’t make the Cup win less meaningful. It means that fans of a team that took 46 years to win the Cup should probably quite the “choke” talk about a team that has more playoff wins than them despite being around for half as long.

      • phutchin77 - Jan 29, 2014 at 6:43 PM


        That doesn’t make the Cup win less meaningful. It means that fans of a team that took 46 years to win the Cup should probably quit the “choke” talk about a team that has more playoff wins than them despite being around for half as long.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:41 PM

        Yeah, there percentage beats the living crap out of the Sharts’ percentage.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 29, 2014 at 1:04 AM

      Not quite. I could care less about the sharks. I just want to see the crap beat out of Brown.

  5. sjtorpitt - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:10 PM

    Kings fan?

  6. qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:17 PM

    Ya ya ya we all know the drill by now. Story about Brown? Tons of comments about how he should be suspended forever, hit in the head, how he’s a pos or sob. Blah blah blah. Isn’t the best revenge beating the Kings? Well that didn’t happen so maybe I’m wrong.

    • uscthom78 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:41 PM

      Best revenge is making sure US was forced to add Bobbu Ryan or another more deserving player than douchebag brownie.

      • uscthom78 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:51 PM

        Unfortunately/Fortunately the SJS too classy of an organization to attempt that.

      • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:49 PM

        I would agree that SJ is a classy organization. Im glad they didn’t goon it up just because of this situation. I just get frustrated that some of their fans are so filled with hate that it blinds them from reason. The Brown hit on Hertl was an accident. Even my friend who is a Sharks fan admitted that the hit was an accident with both players trying to avoid contact( although he still believes Brown is a dirty player but I figure ill stick to one battle at a time). I like the SJ organization despite my taunting in my previous comment which admittedly was just trying to upset the SJ fans 😉 Hopefully one day we can all move past this.


      • areaman714 - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:42 PM

        Filled with hate? If you want to see hate . . . Go to the Kings Facebook page and read the comments after the outdoor loss to the Ducks. Many many kings fans wanted to string Dustiknee Brown up . . . They want him out of LA! It amazes that a fan base can turn so easily on its team . . . By the way, I saw both back to back Ducks/Kings games and Browknee looked worthless. He needs to lose his “C” at the very least . . .

      • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:55 PM

        I think his “C” stands for “choke artist”. As in “The choke artist couldn’t score on a wide open net against the Ducks.”

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:44 PM

        Yeah, “we’re classy”

        Signed, Raffi

  7. joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:21 PM

    Tommy who? What has this guy done in his career that is worthy of talk? With the score as tight as it was it’s not surprising Brown declined. Why the heck would he fight Wingels? I’m sure Brown would have danced with Pavelski, but he didn’t extend an invitation. Why not? It never ceases to amaze me when players can’t fight their own battles. They don’t want fighting out because it’s always been part of the game, but they expect others to do their fighting for them. Let Hertl come back and go after Brown himself if he feels he was intentionally injured.

    • lovinthatsomanyhateonnd - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:32 PM

      lol this is Browns MO..lay a cheap shot, injuring someone..then run from the fight when challenged. Otherwise known as a punk.

    • tdaveniii - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:34 PM

      Brown will turtle if Hertl comes after him.

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:39 PM

        So what if he does turtle. What’s the big deal? He didn’t turtle against Kesler.

      • strictlythedanks - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:20 PM

        browns is a POS, you dont have to be a sharks fan to know that. The whole nhl despises that bum and he should never, ever have made team usa. what a disgrace.

      • imleftcoast - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:25 PM

        If Brown didn’t turtle against Kesler, it wasn’t much of a fight, and Kesler isn’t much of a fighter.

      • hookersdontsnuggle - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM

        Kesler whooped his ass.

    • btlpper68 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:41 PM

      Wingles is probably better than brown idiot

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:46 PM

        Whoa! Name calling! We have a tough guy behind the keyboard who doesn’t know how to spell W i n g e l s. Repeat after me W i n g e l s

      • cluelessjoe4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:47 PM

        Really? Your going to make fun of a guy for name calling while you make fun of a spelling mistake? You’re not exactly standing on higher ground, bud.

      • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:58 PM

        Hahaha awesome name. Joey is the biggest tool on PHT

      • imleftcoast - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19 PM


    • sharksfan1 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:43 PM

      Wow. Talk about an ignorant comment. First off Wingels has more points than Brown in less games this year. Also Wingels isn’t just some knuckel dragging enforcer. This is not a Scott vs Kessel situation.

      “It never ceases to amaze me when players can’t fight their own battles”
      Hertl can’t fight his own battle because he is still injured for the dirty play from Brown and there is a good chance he wont be back this season.

      Maybe you shouldn’t comment on articles about players you know nothing about.

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:24 PM

        Never said he was an enforcer. I just asked what he’s done in his hockey career that’s worth talking about.Nothing would have been the appropriate response. Hertl can fight his battle when he comes back. I’m sure Brown will still be around. Maybe you should f off. 😉

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:44 AM

        Brown is a proven leader with a SC. He has represented the United States at three World Championships, winning a bronze medal in 2004, and two World Junior Championships. He won a silver medal as an alternate captain of the United States national hockey team at the 2010 Winter. Like I said. What has he done that is worth talking about? The answer is nothing.

      • tdaveniii - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:03 PM

        Brown is a leader with a SC? How is that relevant? Gordie Howe has won 4 SCs. . . would you argue that he’s better right now than Wingels?

    • cluelessjoe4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:59 PM

      I’m not a Sharks fan, and I don’t hate Brown that much (though, he’s definitely a little dirty), but joey, you comment as much as anyone on this site and you NEVER have anything intelligent to say.

      A rookie who’s INJURED FOR THE SEASON should fight his own battles. What?

      Do you ever criticise the Kings? Because you’re quick to attack every other team.

      Do you ever get more thumbs up then thumbs down?

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:29 PM

        Hertl can give a fair crack of the whip next time he plays Brown. :-) Why does Wingels have to fight Hert’s battle? What’s the rush? Now, that my friend sounded intelligent. 💋 💋 💋 💋 💋

      • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:09 PM

        So if someone takes a run at Datsyuk, he should go fight them. That makes sense…

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:44 AM

        I think fighting should be out of the game. Period! To those who say it should stay because it’s part of the game and always have been, I say then let the boys fight their own battles. You can’t have your cake an eat it too.

      • jhaegs - Jan 29, 2014 at 9:38 PM

        Yes you can. They have a choice when it comes to fighting. It’s been in the game forever, and 41yr old Jagr has NEVER dropped the gloves.

  8. sjtorpitt - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:31 PM

    “Fight their own battles”? You do realize Hertl is injured.

    • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:31 PM

      Yes! I very well know he’s injured. Retribution is not always immediate. Hertl can take care of Brown next time the play. No rush! That’s called discipline and maturity.

      • uscthom78 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM

        So savard should come back and fight his own battles against Cooke? That is definitely what you are saying. BTW, you do know Dusty delegates his fights to cosmo kramer. He hardly ever fights his own battles.

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:43 PM

        Are you still whining about the savard incident or you using that as an example? Either! The league dealt with it. Move on.

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:45 PM

        It’s a game played in a confined env. Collisions causing injuries are going to happen. Can’t deal with it! Don’t watch the game. Watch curling.

  9. lbeezyse - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:32 PM

    It sad that at this point Brown is a dirtier player than Bertuzzi and Cooke combined. His cheap shot on Pommer last season just adds to his dirty plays he doesn’t own up to. If you’re going to toe the line of being dirty you better be prepared to own up for your actions. It wouldn’t surprise me one bit if some one eventually runs Brown and hurts him. I hope it doesn’t go that far, but eventually him not being accountable for his actions will catch up.

    • pirovash88 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:28 PM

      Bertuzzi ended someone’s career…I can’t believe you just made that comparison. The mentality of San Jose fans is absolutely ridiculous.

      • iregisteredtocommentonyouridiocy - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:09 PM

        More ridiculous when considering the fact that Bertuzzi did what he did to try to start a fight, and by Sharks fans’ contention, that’s not something Brown would ever do.

        Also, they conveniently forget that the NHL rescinded Brown’s game misconduct the day after the collision with Hertl. Let’s not let facts get in the way of a good story, right?

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:53 PM

        Yeah, the myopic nocals get funnier all the time. They pick up a guy expressly for the purpose of injuring people, then they complain about an actual top line guy being “dirty.” Said “dirty” player actually had the misconduct overturned on review, and has had exactly ONE incident where he was disciplined after supplemental review. This is the same guy who is usually in the top five in hits throughout the season. He hits clean, hard and frequently.

        What Hertl experienced wasn’t a hit. It was the result of sticking his leg out at the wrong time. Brown even tried to miss him by leaning forward and picking up his back leg, which is more than Hertl did. The only reason Brown got the penalty was because Hertl was injured. He probably needs to spend more time keeping his head up and less time hotdogging.

        Anyway, the source of nocal bitterness comes from a few places:

        • They’re naturally bitter and hateful, especially toward anyone or anything socal.
        • They haven’t won jack.
        • They got beat straight up by socal AFTER watching them win the Cup.

        Yeah, they’re a bitter lot. Don’t forget to bring your batteries to the game so you can throw them at the players, nocal.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

        Oh yeah, and the idea that a top forward has to fight a goon after a collision takes place is complete BS. It takes just as much of a man to take the hits and not throw as it does to throw in the first place.

  10. sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Saw him decline twice in person. Looked like a punk when Wingles was grabbing him. LA fans like to think some how Hertl was at fault. I have said it before and I will say it again. Get it through your ignorant LA skulls that people dislike the kings and specifically Dustin Brown.

    You all can bring up the Sharks choking and not having a cup. We will continue to post the same videos of Brown kneeing, elbowing and head hunting players. I will take my team not having a cup over them being lead by a cheap pos like Brown any day.

    As for Joey over here. Pick a team and stick with them. You bounce all over to which ever fan base has the most comments on an article.

    • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:34 PM

      I’m often the first to comment. So, I don’t wait. You fans are so blinded by partisanship that you lose all objectivity and sound like a bunch of whiners.

      • cluelessjoe4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:44 PM

        That is one of the most hypocritical things I have ever read, joey.

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:34 PM

      I’d actually like to know exactly how many times you have said something that started with, “Get it through your ignorant L.A. skulls…”

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:45 AM


  11. sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:38 PM

    Think of it this way. The first cup in LA’s franchise was first lifted by Dustin Brown. Yeah… Does that not just sound wonderful?

    • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:24 PM

      Sounds good to me

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:55 PM

        Me too.

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:43 PM

      It was lifted by a U.S. born player that was drafted and developed by the Kings. He worked hard and found his role on the team as he evolved as a player. He is wearing the ‘C’ above players like Carter and Richards and Kopitar for a reason. This is the ‘Hate on Brown’ thread though so I can see how that got overlooked.

  12. btlpper68 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:44 PM

    An la fan asked another la fan at the game last night ” is gretsky your last name or did he play for us” kings fans are clueless as hell

    • sharksfan1 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:50 PM

      LOL, that made me laugh. Not surprised though, half of the Kings fan base are bandwagoners that only became fans during their cup run.

      • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:59 PM

        When teams win cups, they also get their fair share of “bandwagon” fans. To say that the Kings, who have been around since the 60’s, fans are mostly bandwagon fans is wildly over the top and inaccurate. Please find a new insult.

      • imleftcoast - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:29 PM

        I was happy for Kings fans. I remember the Crown line, and a lot bad Kings teams. But Brown makes me now feel for Kings fans the way I feel about Red Sox fans.

    • iregisteredtocommentonyouridiocy - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:07 PM

      Makes joke about Kings fans knowing nothing about hockey; misspells the name of the game’s greatest and most widely-known player.

      It’s not like the name GRETZKY is hard to find or spell.

      • kaptaanamerica - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:52 PM

        that’s the point… spelling his name wrong was part of the joke… you just proved the guy’s point… the jersey had the spelling mistake on the back, c’mon people… another indictment of public education and a vote for vouchers for private school

      • iregisteredtocommentonyouridiocy - Jan 29, 2014 at 3:13 AM

        @kaptaanamerica: If you look at btipper68’s other contributions, you’ll find he also didn’t spell Tommy Wingels’ name correctly. You know, the guy whose name is in the headline of the article? Believe what you want, but I don’t think the misspelling was intentional.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:59 PM

        You owned him good, and then he comes back trying to claim that a fan AT the game “misspelled” Gretzky when he talked about him to the guy next to him. What an idiot!

  13. sjtorpitt - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    It’s hilarious how Kings fans think only Sharks fan hate Brown. Just about every team hates him. Get a real fan base, and then maybe I’ll take your cup jokes a bit more seriously. How long did it take LA to win a cup? Never mind, you probably wouldn’t know anyway.

    • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:55 PM

      Yep by reading the comments on this PHT article we all have an accurate assessment of what all the teams and fans in the NHL think of Brown…

      • strictlythedanks - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:22 PM


        hes right

        dustin skid mark is a widely hated player by knowledgeable fans around the league.

        Wild fans know that all too well.

    • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:06 PM

      Blues fan here. Brown is up there with Cooke, Torres, Bertuzzi, and joey4id when it comes to people that deserve a skate in the arse.

      • strictlythedanks - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:15 PM

        (pre wild cooke)

      • joey4id - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:48 AM

        I’m not baiting anyone. I’m simply saying if you want fighting, then let the boys fight their own battles. Old time hockey! Just like it ways in the days of the original six. Regardless of your status in the team players fought their own battles. Howe, Lindsay, Richard, etc…

    • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 5:01 PM

      Nope…not just Sharks fans. Also losers in Vancouver and Phoenix who were recently owned as well. Y’all have one two things in common, and I’ll let you figure out what they are. Of course, there are also Duckheads, and they’re just Duckheads. That’s understandable.

  14. steverolley - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:45 PM

    If Ryan Kessler can jersey pull Brown and feed him a couple then as Brown’s agent I would say “Never Fight Again, Ever, you got beat up by Kessler… imagine what a half assed fighter would do to you!”

    Brown never fights, one time he does he gets pounded by Kessler = never fighting again

    • sharksfan1 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:48 PM

      Well if you are going to lay dirty hits you better be ready to fight.

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM

        Ok! Why does another player have to fight for you? You like fighting, and it’s part of the game. Then Hertl should fight his battle.

      • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM

        Joey (cute name by the way), is trying to bait people into an pro vs anti-fighting debate. He doesn’t like fighting in hockey, so he’s being an annoying pest to try and prove a point. He doesn’t understand the unwritten code of teammates stepping up for skill players when people take a run at them.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 5:04 PM

        The problem is you losers make snit up and claim your hallucinations add up to “and that means Brown has to fight.”

        He doesn’t fight. Get over it. He doesn’t start them, and he rarely accepts the need to. The idea that laying a hockey hit requires fighting is complete bullsnit. How about your guys get used to the idea that hockey is a contact sport. I was brought up recognizing that it takes a manchild to escalate feeling disrespected into a fight.

    • kaptaanamerica - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:53 PM

      Kesler not KESSLer

  15. sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:46 PM

    The best part was seeing handmade Kings shirts at the game. Obviously not big enough fans to buy real merchandise to support your team. Few old school kings fans at the game last night, which I respected. Had to laugh at the others.

    • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:27 PM

      Really reaching for these insults now aren’t you?

      • sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:19 PM

        Hey man, had to come up with some trashy insult to match the “sharts” insult from Kings fans.

      • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 11:25 PM

        Don’t worry, sjsharks66, you’ve never had to try too hard to be trashy before.

    • pirovash88 - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM

      Cause that’s what every Kings fan looks for, your respect.. Hope you had fun watching your team lose on home ice last night.

      • ethanmacleod1685 - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:37 PM

        You lost on home ice two nights before. And in front of 40000+ fans, lol at you.

      • sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:22 PM

        Yeah.. because shut out 3-0 in the first outdoor game in California sounds much better. But hey, at least KISS was there! OH! a marching band and volleyball as well!

      • pirovash88 - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:03 PM

        Yeah and you know who wasn’t there? The only California team that wasn’t invited.

      • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:48 PM

        Losing 3-0 hurt, but I don’t know if I agree with the idea of playing at Dodger stadium “home ice advantage.” It’s not exactly like they were familiar with the ice and boards. Either way, the Kings are in a slump and the Ducks are a very strong team this year. Somehow a slumping Kings team still managed to shutout the Sharks though, so that’s kinda cool.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 5:06 PM

        I love the responses here…”our team sucks, but someone else beat you.”

  16. killerpgh - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:48 PM

    I’m the only guy left (other than King’s fans) that thinks Brown is a heck of a hockey player and would love to have him on my favorite team?

    I can’t believe American fans are actually rooting against the USA in the Olympic because of a player they don’t like is on it. As a Veteran that makes me sick. As an American & Penguins fan Crosby is nothing but a diving, whining crybaby for those 2 weeks and that is the way it should be.

    • uscthom78 - Jan 28, 2014 at 5:55 PM

      Dusty represents anti-American ideals….so no I will not cheer for him and I definitely don’t think he is heck of a player.

    • kaptaanamerica - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM

      i’m only cheering for Canada cuz they included Hamhuis on the team, otherwise, I would have considered it an old boy’s club that doesn’t represent Canada or Canadians. Brown may not represent the best of the USA, but if I was an American, i’d still cheer for the USA cuz you have Kesler on the team.

      • uscthom78 - Jan 29, 2014 at 4:41 PM

        I will cheer for US. I just won’t cheer for a player who will try to sneakily injure the opposition. I don’t want Sid or anyother opposing player to get a concussion, although Bylsma will definitely healthy scratch brown if and when they play canada.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 5:08 PM

        I love how nocals drum up this “sneaky” BS. It’s another way of saying “There’s no VALID reason for me to claim he plays dirty, so I’m going to just say he’s ‘sneaky.'” What a load of nocal hallucination!

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:58 PM

      Or you cheer for the U.S. because you are American. I wouldn’t root for any other team in the Olympics even if all of the worst head-hunters in the league made it on the roster. I don’t like Phil Kessel or Ryan Kesler- really toes on disgust- and I will be cheering them on in Sochi. Not respecting someone that is representing your country is just deplorable.

  17. muckleflugga - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:10 PM

    agree with joey here …

    it’s pretty hard to take either wingels or other sharks’ player participating in this ongoing charade seriously … it’s just bad theatre beating a tired script … the bored and unimaginative becoming more boring

    when do hockey players of wingel’s ilk part company with common sense … ditto their supporters … ?

    while we understand players can be emotional in the moment, an organization’s credibility takes a further hit when management wades-in emotionally and after the fact … a total bag-shot to the injured player …

    basically saying he hasn’t the grapes to attend to his own affairs

    and manufacturing an excuse to beef over what was nothing more than a collision happening in the moment leaves anyone who plays hockey shaking their heads in contempt

    regardless, brown would be crazy to fight or risk injury before the olympics … his position is compromised … claiming brown is hiding from accountability under these circumstances is dishonest and outside of the ever variable code

    claiming manly status over someone unable to respond is quite simply

    phoney bully boy talk

    piss off wingels

    • bsaures - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:32 PM

      Players of wingels ilk? He has 10 more points than brown does and plays a much cleaner game than him.

      • joey4id - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:39 PM

        So! What has Wingels won in his hockey career? Nothing! I like the Sharks, but this retribution stuff is getting old, and why have someone fight your battles. Yes! I know Hertl is out, but we can fight Brown next time they play.

      • bsaures - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:19 PM

        He is 25 what had Brown won at that point NOTHING as well. By your logic when they play Buffalo or toronto Colton Orr or John Scott can run Kopitar blow out his knee and none of the LA players should do a thing because its Kopitars job to fight them?

      • lakingsfanatic - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:01 AM

        Count the cups… he is wearing one but he has never lifted one, till then shut up

    • areaman714 - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:50 PM

      Why is a player of Browknee’s ilk even a captain?

    • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 5:10 PM

      I find it interesting that their announcers won’t even repeat their tired propaganda. They apparently have more class than the rest of the organization, combined.

  18. sjtorpitt - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:37 PM

    Nice! We lost by 1 goal without our best player and a great rookie.
    Shouldn’t you be more worried about your reeling team than us losing one home game?

    • qauzaq - Jan 28, 2014 at 6:52 PM

      Considering our team, as you pointed out, has sucked lately and we played at an arena that gives the Kings fits I’m happy with the win.

  19. barroomhero80 - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:02 PM

    Christ, shart fans are as big ass crybaby

    • hookersdontsnuggle - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:39 PM


  20. hookersdontsnuggle - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:38 PM

    As someone who lives in LA county, I have to say Kings fans are easily the biggest homers in the NHL. The kings couldn’t sell out a game to save their lives till about april of 2012. Now everyone here is a know-it-all. Go figure.

    • 22lakings22 - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:56 PM

      They’ve been selling out since December 2011. Maybe the “know-it-alls” just know how to google info which is what you should try doing before posting.

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 11:05 PM

      Well I don’t know the difference between a fan and a homer but just looking at stats alone, the Coyotes have the biggest problems with “bandwagon fans” in the league. Their ticket sales jump 60% from the regular season to the playoffs. I can attest that the Kings weren’t really doing well with respect to selling tickets while they were in their 8-year playoff drought. In all honesty, though, no team deserves to sell tickets when they aren’t playing well.

    • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:33 PM

      You have no phoking clue what you’re talking about. The Kings have sold out most of their games for a LONG time and have sold out ALL their games since well before that. If you don’t believe it, all you have to do is look it up, frontrunner.

  21. sjtorpitt - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:53 PM

    Hahaha quazaq. Staples center was EMPTY. I live in LA. The good old days, buying a nosebleed seat for $6 and then going down to sit in the front row because no one else was there. LA bandwagons a lot. Dodgers, Clippers, Kings. Lakers are legit tho.

    • cybernetikghost - Jan 28, 2014 at 11:07 PM

      Lakers aren’t “legit.” They have just been good for long enough that the bandwagon fans don’t have a reason to leave.

    • lakingsfanatic - Jan 29, 2014 at 11:08 AM

      The Dodgers hold every record for attendance and have for years, I was a Kings fan for years since purple and gold and there is an army of us so screw you. Angels suck, Go to a Kings Ducks game and we out number the Ducks fans… Base your opinions on facts not emotion, Lakers have a history of winnings…and San Jose has a history of choking…as they will again this year. Your time may come some day…Have seen a lot of empty seats at the Sharks games… alot of empty seats.

      • tdaveniii - Jan 29, 2014 at 2:10 PM

        You’re just plain lying if you say you’ve seen lots of empty seats at the Sharks game. It simply is not the case.

        The Dodgers may or may not hold attendance records. Query what their attendance would be if measured in the first, second, eighth or ninth innings?

        The ultimate proof of Dodger fan’s lack of commitment: the highlight of Gibson’s home run against Eck, with the stream of taillights leaving . . .

        And things haven’t changed.

  22. hardkor07mn - Jan 28, 2014 at 7:54 PM

    Brown is a PUKE, plain and simple

  23. hardkor07mn - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:36 PM

    Joey- step away from the computer and find a girlfriend! I honestly get dummer reading your stuff. And yes dummer!

    • imleftcoast - Jan 28, 2014 at 10:24 PM

      Joey is more shart than you. Yes, he is quite a shart!

  24. sjsharks66 - Jan 28, 2014 at 8:38 PM

    Obviously as a Sharks fan I hope Torres stays healthy, as he has cleaned his game up drastically. Despite the questionable hit last season. The thing is Torres has a past, against the Sharks as well. Eventually the past may catch up with him in the future. As for now him and Cooke have been playing the game the way it should be. Hard work, scoring goals and laying a big CLEAN hit when the opportunity arises.
    Even clean hockey players get a bad hit in their careers. Example is Thornton against the Blues.

    • jhaegs - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:21 PM

      He’s cleaned his game up? How much has he played since that hit you mentioned?

  25. tmbtrumpet - Jan 28, 2014 at 9:02 PM

    I didn’t know Sharks had the ability to cry….but WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!
    Tommy Wingels, you sound like a schoolyard pansy with that name to start with, feel fortunate that Brown didn’t want go you little sissy mary.

    I watched the game that night, Hertl clearly saw Brown coming, Hertl tried to avoid the hit & Brown bends his leg to lesson the blow. 2 large masses hit, unfortunately Hertl was injured, but it happened. Move on.

    • sfissuicidal - Jan 30, 2014 at 9:04 PM

      Brown is a tool. Period. you didn’t need it if you didn’t play for your team, you Homer.

  26. lakingsfanatic - Jan 29, 2014 at 10:58 AM

    Sharks GM Doug Wilson to say he was “disappointed” in Brown’s lack of concern for Hertl.

    Funny comment coming from a GM who stated that he supported Raffi ToreAss after the hit on Stoll that knocked him out of the series and gave him seizures… He is a hypocritical pansy and talks out of both sides of his mouth. That cross ice hit mirrors the one he laid on Phoenix in the championship finals in 2012 and is a common hit for Brown. It tends to leave guys laying out on the ice, he hits HARD! Ask Hendrick Sedin! Yet he has never intentionally targeted anyone, yet you fully support Torres who is a known head hunter and has been suspended multiple times for injuring players and targeting the head. Screw you Wilson! and Screw the Sharks…

    • tdaveniii - Jan 29, 2014 at 12:26 PM

      Hmm. Didn’t Stoll himself later concede that Torres’ hit was clean?

      As for justifying the Brown hit on Hertl by pointing to other dirty hits, I’m a bit lost.

      • wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:28 PM

        No. You imagined that, just like you imagined that the collision resulting from Hertl putting his leg out was a “hit.”

      • tdaveniii - Jan 30, 2014 at 6:13 PM

        I’m a dick. You’re ignorant.

        Here’s a link to the story in which Stoll admits its a good hit. You idiot.,d.cGU

  27. jkaflagg - Jan 29, 2014 at 8:48 PM

    Tommy who ? Brown knows better than to let a 4th line guy take him off the ice….

    Brown has enemies all over the league but I guarantee all those teams would jump to acquire him if available…..The fact that guys hate him tells you he’s doing his job.

    • dinkster37 - Jan 30, 2014 at 7:42 PM

      jkaflagg….do you actually watch hockey?

      Dustin Brown 10 g 6 a (16 pts) +5 in 54 games. 16:20 avg ice time per game.

      Tommy Wingels 10 g 16 a (26 pts) +9 in 49 games. 16:04 avg ice time per game.

      Either Brown isn’t a first line player….. or Wingels isn’t a fourth liner…. you be the judge, Chiachi. Wingels, more points and a higher +/- in fewer games….

      Looks to me like the Kings win that one if Brown takes Wingels off the ice for 5 minutes by fighting, eh?

  28. wtfkwp - Jan 30, 2014 at 4:27 PM

    The Kings obviously are, and have been, in San Jose’s head for a long time. This is the team that signed Raffi Torres, knowing what a punk he is, then acted all surprised when he took out Stoll. What a bunch of hypocrites!

    • tdaveniii - Jan 30, 2014 at 6:26 PM

      Nobody was surprised he took out Stoll. Most Sharks fans were very unhappy with the Torres signing. Most of us, however, were encouraged by his play last season that he may have turned over a new leaf. The Stoll hit was definitely borderline but would not have led to discipline in the absence of history there. And Stoll himself had no problems with the hit.

      So, if your definition of hypocritical involves criticizing the trade, and then being disappointed at the subsequent suspension for a clean hit, I guess I’ll plead guilty.

  29. casl2 - Jan 30, 2014 at 9:17 PM

    If you look at Dustin Brown’s history– it’s happened too many times to be coincidence. He is a MASTER of the “ACCIDENTAL” CHEAP SHOT.

    No honor.

  30. mnwildmike - Feb 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM

    Dustin Brown is one of the dirtiest players in the league. This wasnt his first knee on knee hit. It’s actually his specialty. He also threw a nasty elbow to the head of Jason Pominville last year and got only a measly two game suspension while Pominville was concussed and missed most of the Wilds playoff series with Chicago. Not to mention the fact that he sucks at hockey in general.

Top 10 NHL Player Searches
  1. P. Kessel (1528)
  2. P. Kane (1379)
  3. S. Matthias (1251)
  4. M. Zuccarello (1165)
  5. D. Carcillo (1129)