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Sutter: Kronwall’s goal is an embarrassment for the NHL

Jan 18, 2014, 11:35 PM EDT

With the Kings up 2-1 and less than a minute left in the third period, the Detroit Red Wings were on the power play and had pulled their goaltender.

With that 6-on-4 advantage, Detroit defenseman Niklas Kronwall fired a shot that hit Kings forward Jarret Stoll‘s stick and appeared to go out of play. However, the puck ended up hitting goaltender Jonathan Quick in the back en route to being called the game-tying goal:

Detroit went on to secure a 3-2 shootout win.

After the contest, Kings coach Darryl Sutter wasn’t shy about voicing his displeasure with the good goal call.

“Pucks go in the stands, and then they come back in and score?” Sutter said, according to LA Kings Insider. “Probably, yeah. Off the net? We’ve seen that. That’s embarrassing for the league. That’s what that is. It doesn’t matter if we’d have scored, or if they had scored it. That’s embarrassing.”

When asked about coming so close to winning, Sutter added that “we got screwed” and asked what the officials would do in the upcoming outdoor game between Los Angeles and Anaheim.

“That’s just embarrassing,” Sutter said. “That’s embarrassing. It shouldn’t even be that.”

Sutter went on to call it embarrassing a fifth time.

  1. jmcurran28 - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    I’m a diehard Wings fan and I completely understand that it shouldn’t have been a goal…but I’m also glad it counted. Now Tortorella going after the Flames players in the locker room, that was an emberassment.

    • nightfireop - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM

      i’m a kings fan and the way i see it, it was just one of those unfortunate things that could have happened to anyone. the fact of the matter though, both teams demonstrated their game exceptionally well, keep the game low-scoring and defensive. the goaltenders were solid.

  2. valoisvipers - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:49 PM

    He is right. This stuff shouldn’t happen.

  3. esracerx46 - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:51 PM

    Its ironic he said this the same night Tortorella loses his marbles. Bad calls happen. It sucks, but its always amazed me how often the refs get the call right. We have the benefit of slow motion and instant replay. If you feel cheated go win the game in overtime. Prove you should have won. What Tortorella did was make an assclown out of himself and embarrassed all of us.

    • rightofright - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:00 AM

      Not sure why anyone would “down vote” your statement….

      Now THAT is embarrassing…..

      • esracerx46 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:06 AM

        Don’t have the time to worry about what other people think about my comments. Try not to sweat the small stuff. Sutter is actually right, it shouldn’t happen. But I’ve seen way worse calls that are less of an embarrassment than he’s making this out to be.

      • puckhead19 - Jan 19, 2014 at 5:02 AM

        Uneducated Kings fans….nuff said. They don’t have a football team in LA, so they aren’t aware that badcalls and the inability to review certain plays happens in other sports too. If you want to take the human elements out of the game, get an xbox and go to town.

      • tcclark - Jan 19, 2014 at 9:14 AM

        Some people just really hate the misuse of the word “ironic”

    • dmkou - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:04 AM

      Haha ur an idiot. This isn’t feeling cheated. This is plain embarrassment that should never have happened.

      • esracerx46 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:13 AM

        It sucks. I get it. I’m sorry. I like to see the Red Wings lose as much as the next guy. But ya gotta let it go.

    • charlieconway96 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:14 AM

      Its more of a fact not a feeling. You can see the netting stretch and the puck ricochet off of it. And given the current state of the Canucks, no one can be surprised that Torts finally snapped. I just wish the Flames players hadn’t held back Malarchuk, that would have made for some real entertainment.

    • endusersolutions2013 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:59 AM

      Replays have led to huge “second guessing ops”. This is likely the 1st time this has happened. Refs will most likely review the footage and learn.

      • elrock7 - Jan 19, 2014 at 4:50 PM

        all goals should be reviewed…takes 5 seconds just like football. Need to get it right.

    • basedrum777 - Jan 23, 2014 at 11:55 AM

      IF you have replay as the NHL does and you still get a call like this wrong I agree they need to be embarrassed.

  4. fearthehoody - Jan 18, 2014 at 11:53 PM

    Saw game and its sad it ended like this.

    • sjsharks66 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:06 AM

      It didn’t end like that. It went to shootouts.

  5. sjsharks66 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:02 AM

    “Sutter: Kronwall’s goal is an embarrassment for the NHL”

    As is your captain.
    Bring on the thumbs down!

    • esracerx46 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:07 AM

      “Golf clap”

  6. Stiller43 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:04 AM

    Ehh it was only out of play by about FIFTY EFFIN FEET!!!

    How were they supposed to see that?

  7. censoredpost - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:05 AM

    That ball clearly hit the line… Look at the video, chalk flew up.

    • endusersolutions2013 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:57 AM

      Hold on, I’m a bit confused. Are we now talking baseball or clay court tennis?

  8. dmkou - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:14 AM

    If refs have made so many embarrassing calls, why hasn’t NHL cleaned it up. Embarrassing for the league.

  9. idonthavethebloodyoucrave - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:24 AM

    How the hell does this get reviewed in Toronto and still stand?

    • shortsxit34 - Jan 19, 2014 at 1:37 AM

      Because it never did.

    • cfol44 - Jan 20, 2014 at 9:26 PM

      Toronto replay has been downright bad the last few days. Boston had a goal disallowed after the reply showed that Campbell did not kick the puck into the net, he had both skates going some direction turning right so he wouldn’t take out the goaltender. It was called good on ice, both Toronto players d didn’t even complain about the goal, (D-Man closest to play and Goaltender), but someone started complaining after seeing it on the replay. Skates never came off ice, both moved in the normal flow of turning away from net, and all of a sudden, NO GOAL??? It’s calls like this that make you wonder what the hell is going on. The calls by officials have been extremely bad this year, game in and game out, but nothing gets done!!!!! It’s hurting the game badly.

  10. cspsrbums - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    It wasn’t a reviewable call according to the video

  11. govtminion - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:28 AM

    No question, the Kings got hosed here… it happens to every team now and then, mistakes do happen, but… really, NONE of the four officials were watching the puck when it went out of play? No one reviewed this and said “Hey, that hit the upper third of the net above the glass!”

    Sutter is right. That’s embarrassing.

    • goal29 - Jan 19, 2014 at 2:23 AM

      Sutter has the vantage point of seeing it from the bench, and on the jumbotron. Sure…it shouldn’t have counted, but for any of you morons who think officiating is easy, go out there and try to keep eyes on a shot with any amount of speed to it. The eyes can only follow so much, plus the officials have bodies, sticks, skates, and objects (the net) in the way of their view….crap happens, and it is only one game (even if it were playoffs…there is a reason you have to win 4 games to move on….chances are that if this caused your team to win one of the required four games, you were beaten long before the “bad” call). In an ideal world, it would have been waived off – but this isn’t the ideal world, and the officials will learn from this.

      • patthehockeyfan - Jan 19, 2014 at 11:56 AM

        You write that Sutter had the vantage point to see it from the bench. In a post-game presser, Babcock said he didn’t see it. So much for the ‘seeing it from the bench’ advantage.

        You also write that officials have bodies, sticks, etc. in the way of their view. Exactly how many bodies and sticks were floating 25 feet in the air blocking the officials’ view?

        Everybody in the rink saw the puck go out of play except the four people whose job it is to follow the puck. Oh yeah. And Babcock.

        I’m a Kings’ fan. Stuff happens. Sometimes you’re the windshield, sometimes you’re the bug.

        Let’s move on.

    • cheliostwin - Jan 19, 2014 at 2:29 AM

      About four years ago the Sharks scored a goal against the Wings after the puck hit the netting and fell back to the ice. It wasn’t as direct as this one, several players moved the puck before it was shot into the goal about 10 seconds after it had hit the netting.
      It isn’t surprising that none of the officials saw it hit the netting. Even the broadcasters, watching from above the netting, didn’t see the puck hit the netting until they saw the replays from a different angle.

      • mahasw777 - Jan 21, 2014 at 1:14 PM

        But why is any goal “not reviewable”? I’m not faulting the officials for the replay rule, but the rule just doesn’t make any sense. EVERY goal should be reviewable.

  12. ethanmacleod1685 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:34 AM

    Defo quicks fault

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:35 AM


  13. aldog83 - Jan 19, 2014 at 12:41 AM

    This should Never happen.

    But since it did….

    The NHL should adopt the same rule the NFL has….

    ALL scoring plays should be reviewed.

    What the hell do we have all these cameras
    And technology for if we cant fix an obvious
    Mistake like this!

    Imagine had the Stanley Cup had been decided
    On this goal!

    Fix it. Idiots!

    • micasa81 - Jan 19, 2014 at 1:57 AM

      Agreed. Good comment.

    • thekro247 - Jan 20, 2014 at 6:44 PM

      This guy is so dead on the money. Fix it NHL!!

  14. benrob99 - Jan 19, 2014 at 1:02 AM

    Now see…. this is interesting. I thought the league just shut down this whole time the Pens only played one game in the past week. Good for you fellas… gives you something to do until the Varsity team comes back!

    See ya Monday!

  15. ryanw822 - Jan 19, 2014 at 2:43 AM

    someone from the NHL owes me some money then. I took the Kings moneyline in the first 60 minutes. While I pushed the wager, I actually lost because I should’ve won the bet.

    Nice job NHL. Even MLB is laughing at you and your replays.

  16. uscthom78 - Jan 19, 2014 at 2:56 AM

    Also embarrassing is a team manipulating game clock in order to secure points and victories.

  17. fearthehoody - Jan 19, 2014 at 8:16 AM

    puck head: We may not have the NFL, but unlike wherever crappy weather, even crappier women, state your from, we don’t need to make a sports team our golden goose. Its 80 degrees year round, I can go to the beach,desert mountains, all in one day! We have the best Women and night life. So get off the computer, and head to your local Walmart or Sonic that are the happening places on a Friday or Saturday where you come from

  18. nhstateline - Jan 19, 2014 at 8:26 AM

    Officiating is hard but this call isn’t. It’s always obvious when the puck is up in the air and it’s their job to know where it is. It’s also always obvious when it’s behind the net and bounces like this did why it did that. They should be fired or seriously disciplined for this. And I’d like to see a video from the NHL outlining what they were supposed to have done here (I know), what they did and how long the punishment is going to be. You know, like they do with the players. Now the possibility exists that Detroit could edge out another team by 1 point at the end of the season and this could be the reason why (I fully expect the last spot in the East to come down to the last couple of games). These guys need to be disciplined rather severely.

  19. csilojohnson - Jan 19, 2014 at 9:06 AM

    Fake women, over crowded polluted beaches, horrible air quality, and desert mountains…wait, desert mountains? what? Sorry LA represents everything wrong with the human race.

    • kingsfan93 - Jan 20, 2014 at 3:46 AM

      csilojohnson – You commented saying “Sorry LA repesents everything wrong with the human race.”

      But in reality, maybe it is you that represents everything wrong with the human race.

  20. hehateme1 - Jan 19, 2014 at 10:01 AM

    Wow! Poop.

  21. wtfkwp - Jan 19, 2014 at 11:04 AM

    Hmm…their excuse for not blowing it dead when it went out of bounds is that they lost sight of the puck….

    You know what? You’re supposed to blow the puck dead when you lose sight of the puck, too. Bad excuse.

    • aldog83 - Jan 19, 2014 at 1:42 PM

      Good point.

      Lost sight = blown dead.

      This NHL rule is contradicting.

  22. mfinneran - Jan 19, 2014 at 2:01 PM

    I was at a game in the IHL between Des Moines and Muskegon year’s ago where the puck hit the roof and
    fell into the goal and it was counted as a goal.

  23. tsrblue - Jan 19, 2014 at 3:18 PM

    Get over it Sutter!! Go Wings!!!

  24. jkaflagg - Jan 19, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    First, it’s just a missed call, albeit a strange one….Sutter’s grumbling aside, the LA players seemed to take it in stride; they’ve won and lost games on missed calls, and will do so again….

    My questions would be: understand that according to the rule it was not reviewable, but what is the reasoning behind that ? Both the NFL and MLB both use replays for what could be termed as ” boundary” plays….Are they simply trying to limit reviews to goals ?

    And second….how can 4 on-ice officials (I’m including the linesmen, who can always tell the refs what they saw) miss this ? Dozens of shots get deflected into the netting every night, and I rarely recall any disputes on whether a puck did or did not hit the mesh…..seems pretty amazing that 4 officials whose job is to follow the puck can all completely lose sight of it, tipped shot or no

    • defenseman13 - Jan 20, 2014 at 3:07 AM

      agree, but imagine if your team lost the Stanley Cup over a “missed call”

      • fpstratton - Jan 21, 2014 at 8:28 PM

        defenseman13: Good point, but we would survive…you’re only as great as your last game anyway. The Kings won the Stanley Cup less than 2 years ago, but I hear people grumbling about Sutter. Yes, winning it all is great, but so many fans forget so fast.

    • mikeinindy - Jan 24, 2014 at 8:16 AM

      If the refs lose track of the puck, play dead. That is what they always tell us. On top of that — 2 refs at the blue line with NO players or action within probably 15 feet and neither of them bother to watch the puck? Seriously???

      And, the replay in Toronto seems to always favor the wings. As much as I love to see the kings lose, I passionately hate both the wings and the kings. This was a game to root for the refs to win — and they lost badly!

  25. defenseman13 - Jan 20, 2014 at 3:06 AM

    I’m a Sharks fan, but who cares? Honestly, who honestly cares what team you are a fan of??? I hold hockey above any other sport. I hold The Game above anyone’s team of choice. And year after year, I see these crazy crappy rules that the GMs make that the referees can’t even wrap their heads around. The “League” adds silly things like the Delay (over the glass), net size, the space behind the net, pad size, instigator, and whatever…. thinking that more people will watch the game if a few more goals go in. We have a league-wide call for head protection, but Shanny (the biggest joke aside from Buttman) is at BEST 50/50 on his suspensions. I’d love to blame the refs, but I honestly don’t think that the refs know what they are supposed to call game to game. This goal was a DISGRACE. Anyone on this thread that disagrees is a POS. Can you imagine if this happened in the playoffs and eliminated your team??? What is the War Room doing exactly??? Dammit. This is my passion and my sport. And it is shooting itself in the foot game after game.

    • kingsfan93 - Jan 20, 2014 at 3:37 AM

      Dude, you are so head on.

      For anyone that is thinking it was a good call because you are a Redwings fan or just don’t like the Kings or whatever. Well it is about taking a moment by taking a step back and look at the situation from a reality standpoint. That what if this type of situation happens when in a playoff game? Something needs to be done about this b.s.

      It is just like Darryl Sutter said about this situation that happened “it doesn’t matter what the score is, if it was us that scored or them, this is an embarrassment to the NHL.” Then Kings GM Dean Lombardi said on twitter “GMs get fired, Coaches get fired. Somebody needs to be held accountable for this.”

      I been watching hockey since 1992 and I’ve seen a lot that has gone on over the years. But THIS HERE that happened when Kings vs Redwings were playing is so incredibly messed up. I was going nuts over this. I was just blown away by this.

      And to think the only person that knew where the puck was is Doughty. That it took an actual discussion between the referees is a joke. I mean is it the referees of the NHL or Refwings of the Redwings?

  26. mahasw777 - Jan 21, 2014 at 1:07 PM

    I can’t for the life of me understand why every goal isn’t reviewed?? It’s not like they don’t have the technology at every rink!

  27. fpstratton - Jan 21, 2014 at 8:25 PM

    The Kings got a bad break, no question about it, but they could have prevented the game from coming down to a tying goal if they had played better hockey earlier. As a Kings fan, I’m disappointed, but the Red Wings are a class team and organization, and we’ve had our share of lucky bounces against them too, so on to the next game.

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