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Read (concussion) back for Flyers, Downie scratched again

Jan 14, 2014, 1:22 PM EDT

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Matt Read will return to the Philadelphia lineup tonight.

Steve Downie won’t.

Read, who has missed the last six games with a concussion, will draw back in when the Flyers take on the Sabres in Buffalo on Tuesday — but Downie, who was a healthy scratch for Sunday’s loss to the Rangers, will again find himself in the press box.

Parked because of what Flyers head coach Craig Berube called a lack of intensity, Downie finds himself in an odd spot. He’s clearly not having the same effect he was prior to returning from an upper-body injury in late December — in his last eight games, Downie has zero points and 10 penalty minutes and has struggled to find chemistry with a variety of linemates.

That said, it’s strange that Downie is a scratch for a second consecutive time, especially since the Flyers looked flat and listless at the start of Sunday’s 4-1 loss to the Rangers.

As for Read, he’ll be looking to regain the form shown prior to getting concussed. He had five points in eight games (more like seven, given he was hurt against Calgary on Dec. 31) and received over 20 minutes of ice time in shootout wins over the Oilers and Canucks.

  1. ibieiniid - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:34 PM

    I think they’re also leaving Rosehill in in lieu of McGinn. I really hope this is the last time we see Rosehill until they face the Bruins later this month.

  2. President Charles Logan - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:46 PM

    Ya’ll trade Max Talbot for basically a washed up has been that is all bark and no bite…..

    good move Paul

    • narfmoo12 - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:00 PM

      Same production in less games, no drop off from Talbot to Vandevelde/Raffl/Hall on the PK, plus more cap space for next season.

      • ibieiniid - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:09 PM

        that doesn’t fit his anti-Flyers rhetoric though. shhhhh.

      • narfmoo12 - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:12 PM

        Haha… It’s the type of trade you want your GM to make. No downside at all, but plenty of potential upside, and if it doesn’t work out then you move on at the end of the season in a better cap position than before. Where would Talbot play tonight, or when Rinaldo returns? And with Laughton next year moving into the top 9, Talbot would definitely have no spot on the team.

      • goodolejr - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:56 PM

        I’m actually still wondering how they’re going to fit Laughton in the top 9. Even if they shift Schenn back to LW (even though he’s been much more productive as a center) they still have Lecavalier and Coots. I definitely wouldn’t mind seeing Coots center a line of Schenn him and Simmonds but I just don’t see how they’re fitting everyone in. Of course they could always move Laughton to the wing but I remember seeing a bunch of times that Laughton isn’t a guy who adapts to the wing very well. It’ll be interesting to see what happens next year.

        Oh and that “washed up” 26 year old Downie has more points than Talbot this season, both since joining the Flyers and the season as a whole.

      • narfmoo12 - Jan 14, 2014 at 4:25 PM

        I would assume someone in the current top 9 gets moved through a trade for a defenseman. I don’t know how big of a trade, or how many players/picks, but that makes the most sense.

    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:32 PM

      Adam Hall doing better job on 4th line and pk for LESS MONEY!!!! GREAT JOB PAUL

      • ibieiniid - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:37 PM

        that’s not even to bring up what a great buy Raffl was. then again, I guess that’s more on scouting… but scouts still report to Holmgren.

      • President Charles Logan - Jan 14, 2014 at 8:07 PM

        max talbot is still a valuable asset to any team he’s been one of the best penalty killers in the past 20 years … if you think the adam hall’s and a couple no name kids are suitable replacements temporarily then so be it … but you havent gotten much in your return investment in downie

      • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Jan 15, 2014 at 7:08 AM

        I agree Talbot is a great team player and a good pk player. However Philadelphia is currently 7 in PK with these “no name kids”, Downie has provided spark from the third line, and if they don’t like him then they can simply not resign him and clear over 5 mil in salary.

      • President Charles Logan - Jan 15, 2014 at 11:58 AM

        max talbot for steve downie ………….lol… say no more

    • matthewmacisaac - Jan 15, 2014 at 8:35 PM

      Talbot was good his first year in Philly, when he wanted to prove Pittsburgh should have opened their wallets to keep him, but last year and the beginning of this season he was slow, lazy, and unmotivated. Now he’s trying to play hard so the Avs don’t send him packing and Downie has still out-produced him. I think he is just overrated. After all, the Penguins don’t seem to miss him and the Flyers don’t seem to miss him. Soon, Colorado won’t seem to miss him (as soon as they get tired of his antics) and he can hang out with you.

  3. freneticgarfieldfan - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:49 PM

    PHI @ BUF will be quite a highly unwatchable game, thanks to all those thugs and cheap shot artists on both sides.

    • narfmoo12 - Jan 14, 2014 at 1:58 PM

      I assume like Garfield, you also are fat, lazy, and have no job.

      • ibieiniid - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        yet, somehow, hasn’t found time to watch a Flyers game this year to see all their “thugs” that they don’t have anymore.

  4. narfmoo12 - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:25 PM

    Awww… Someone got angry and thumbs downed all the intelligent pro-Flyers talk, but didn’t add anything to the conversation because he probably can’t form a sentence.

  5. toiletclown - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:42 PM

    read coming back is like the mayo on a turd sandwich

    • goodolejr - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:59 PM

      I don’t know, I’d say he’s more of a mustard. He’s fairly consistent, can go anywhere and sometimes has a little kick.

    • philafly - Jan 14, 2014 at 4:46 PM


      Turd sandwich! Brilliant. Spoken like a true NASA employee.


  6. kastout11 - Jan 14, 2014 at 2:53 PM

    Sabres (Scott) can be considered cheap shot artists, and in the past the Flyers could be considered cheap. Although when you look at all the suspensions handed out by Brendan Shanahan this year, no Flyers have been mentioned. I do, however, see some on the Penguins. I have been a Flyers fan my entire life and remember the goons they had from Ed Hospodar to Dave Brown to Berube, all the way until this year. Rosehill is the only guy you could consider a goon, and he typically only plays against teams where Berube thinks they might have to mix it up a little (i.e. Pittsburg, NYR, Boston). This Flyers club is not the team your daddy told you about with Dave Schultz crushing people. I would not call them a finesse team, but they are not the same Broadstreet Bullies from the 70’s either.

    • ibieiniid - Jan 14, 2014 at 3:28 PM

      don’t worry about freneticgarfieldfan man, he clearly doesn’t watch hockey.

  7. zta7991 - Jan 14, 2014 at 6:11 PM

    Unfortunately I still see brayden schenn as trade bait to make room

    • flyerspsu - Jan 14, 2014 at 10:42 PM

      i agree, he is one of the best players on the team and hes only 22, but thats why he trade bait, hes one of the very few guys that are worth a lot on the market and could a big return for something the Flyers need more like defense

      honestly Giroux and Couturier are the only 2 forwards i view as untouchable

  8. ndrick731 - Jan 15, 2014 at 10:43 PM

    I haven’t figured out what you people are arguing about. They both stink. Talbot was a good pk guy and clutch at one time but that was long ago. Neither one is worth the paper their contracts are printed on.

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