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Sochi Snubs: Giroux, St. Louis and Thornton top list of Canadian Olympic omissions

Jan 7, 2014, 11:41 AM EDT

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Let the debates begin.

Following Tuesday’s announcement of the Canadian Olympic roster, focus shifted to who didn’t make the team — and it was an intense focus to say the least.

A trio of captains — Philly’s Claude Giroux, Tampa Bay’s Martin St. Louis and San Jose’s Joe Thornton — were all left off Team Canada, as were defensemen Brent Seabrook and Dan Boyle, gold medalists at the 2010 games in Vancouver.

Giroux’s omission completes a fall from grace in the eyes of Hockey Canada. Prior to his rough start, Giroux was thought to be a heavy favorite for a spot on the team, and was invited to this summer’s orientation camp (that he bailed on, which reportedly didn’t go over well.)

St. Louis’ omission will sting, as the veteran was looking to again represent his country on the Olympic stage. The 38-year-old played in ’06 and was named an alternate for the Vancouver games four years ago, but never got a chance to suit up.

Thornton, the NHL’s fifth-leading scorer (48 points), had represented his country at the ’06 and ’10 Olympics but was thought to be on the outside looking in this time around, largely due to Canada’s depth at center.

Other noteworthy snubs include:

— From the ’10 team: Mike Richards, Eric Staal.

— Former 40-goal scorer James Neal.

— Sharks forward Logan Couture, who is injured (hand) and will undergo surgery on Wednesday.

Tyler Seguin, the fifth-leading Canadian goalscorer (21).

— Edmonton’s Taylor Hall, who has 41 points through 38 games this year.

— Pittsburgh’s Kris Letang, a Norris finalist last season.

109 Comments (Feed for Comments)
  1. btlpper68 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:44 AM

    Realy seabrook off for hammuis? I know hammuis is left but seabrook has been fantastic this year and is off becusse they want a lefty RIDICLOUS word he was a Norris canidate for a short while

    No joe just leading the NHL in apples so what if he isn’t fast

    • bekay19 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

      do Pitt fans think Kunitz should be there over Neal?

      • jpelle82 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:52 PM

        definitely, without a doubt. neal is immature.

      • kaptaanamerica - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:03 PM

        The real questions are why Carter, Nash and kunitz made it ahead of Giroux, Couture, and Taylor hall? If team Canada doesn’t medal with gold, it’ll be on Carter, Nash and Kunitz.

      • laxman1944 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:38 PM

        Kunitz over: Mike Richards…….G……Thorton……Neal (head hunter understood)…….

        So basically Sid has his line mate and………..

    • kaptaanamerica - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM

      You have no clue how good Hamhuis is if you think he shouldn’t be there.the guy isn’t flashy, just one of the best d men out there.solid, responsible d man.always makes the right play relatively speaking…

      • kitshky - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:03 PM

        Exactly. All Hamhuis does is eliminate scoring chances, eat up minutes, and keep the offence moving …or in other words does exactly what a Defenceman should do.

        There’s enough flash on that team, flash (and the tendency to cross the line physically) does not automatically make you a good fit for this kind of club.

  2. miketoasty - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    Let’s not forget James Neal who has as many assists as Rick Nash has points and is arguably one of the best snipers in the game.

    I would much rather have St. Louis over Giroux at this point but either would probably have been better than Jeff Carter.

    Finally Kris Letang would have also been a good pick but there is just so much Canadian defensive depth that I can understand why he was left out.

    Great roster no doubt, should be interesting to see how well they mesh though.

  3. whammy71 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    No Claudia Gayroux? Thought he was the best player in the world….at least 1 goon-squad coach thought so.

    • narfmoo12 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:06 PM

      You are literally too stupid to insult.

      • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:37 PM

        he’s ditched the “enjoy your crappy season! WHAMMY!” angle he was going with for a while. now his only resort is digging up years old quotes from a former coach of a team that had JUST decimated his team in the playoffs.

    • laxman1944 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:44 PM

      “Gayroux”…….Really Whammy???

      Listen………put down the x-box……GET dressed…..clean up the basement.

      Mom will be home at 5.

      Your material is lacking.

  4. pitpenguinsrulez - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:46 AM

    How bout James Neal?! He produces more and makes much less than that bum Rick Trash.

    • jpelle82 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:52 AM

      money has nothing to do with it

      • laxman1944 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:45 PM

        Yeah…..that was a bit of an odd comment.

  5. uncledick - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:48 AM

    I would take Giroux over Carter and Nash combined…

    • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:22 PM

      Yes! If you were picking an all star team as opposed to building a team to win gold. Huge difference. In the context of the Olympics it makes sense not to include Giroux. If you wanted Giroux in then you would have to remove a top six forward.

      • ruthlessandtoothless - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:19 PM

        Giroux has as much if not more 2 way skill than carter and could easily fit in on the bergeron line

      • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:30 PM

        ruthlessandtoothless, no doubt Giroux can, but Giroux is not a 3rd or 4th line player:


    • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:52 PM

      Who would you remove to insert Giroux?


      Jamie Benn/John Tavares

      • girouxsalem89 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:46 PM

        Jeff Carter… I would remove Jeff Carter.

      • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:01 PM

        And put Giroux on the 4th line? Giroux is a big minutes player. No way he can asked to play 12 mins a game. He’s not a 3rd or 4th lines.

      • flyerspsu - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:05 PM

        And Jeff Carter and Nash are? I don’t understand what you are saying, giroux is better offensively and defensively than both of them but somehow they are more suitable bottom 6 guys for the Olympics

        Also giroux shows up in the biggest games, 55pts in 50 playoff games

      • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:13 PM

        I’m saying that Giroux would make the all Canadian All Star team. Unfortunately, when you get down to the bottom 6 you don’t necessarily want superstars. You need role players to round up your line up, not superstars. There only reason Kunitz is there is because of the chemistry he’s developed with Crosby. What chemistry does Giroux have with Crosby? Towes should be playring with Sharp and Getzlaf will play with Perry. Hence! No room for Claude. It takes nothing away for Claude’s start status.

  6. mattryannolan - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    I wish Seguin had made it.

  7. hockeykrishna - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:49 AM

    Rick Nash? Really?

    Jeff “wide far side” Carter? Really?

    One vote here for Lucic. Seguin plays only 100 feet of ice, easy to see why he was left off…..

    • mattryannolan - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM

      Not from what I have watched this year (Live in Dallas and huge Stars fan) but hey maybe I’m an idiot.

  8. uscthom78 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:51 AM

    Feeling blue about the St Louis omission. He is a cardinal saint. I wanna ram my head through a wall.

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:38 PM

      was probably his last chance too. bums me out even more. i love watching him on big ice.

    • handsofsweed - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:22 PM

      Nice post. If you could have worked in “Billiken,” I think that would have been worth quadruple reference points. Well done anyhow!

  9. bucrightoff - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:57 AM

    Yeah St. Louis, what more did the guy need to do? Especially when you’re putting guys like Carter and Nash out there.

    • gotstamkos - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:20 PM

      What makes this more odd is Stevie Y being his GM???? Love to know why? Totally bummed Canadian down here in Tampa! Still GO CANADA! Repeat!

      • bucrightoff - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:54 PM

        I would hope Yzerman lobbied hard for him and the coaches and others just didn’t want him. If Yzerman willingly left him off that could create some unnecessary tension.

  10. ribs108 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:59 AM

    If there is karma, Canada will win the same medal as the juniors just did. No St. Louis? It’s his last chance and they’re telling us that he’s not as good as Kunitz or Carter? Carter was run outta Philly for his attitude – can you ever say that about St. Louis? They coulda had a Ray Bourque moment of winning it for Martin, but the great minds that think that Price won’t choke and Brodeur doesn’t belong know better I suppose. Go Sweden or Finland or Russia!

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM

      i reject the idea of rooting for 3 teams in the same tourney. ::shudder::

    • ribs108 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:24 PM

      …not to mention the huge ONE SEASON resume of Kunitz, as opposed to TWO scoring titles for St. Louis. If it’s just based on this season, Kunitz is only great ‘cos of Crosby. St. Louis is leading the Lightning with it’s best player missing. If Crosby was injured, Kunitz would be producing a la Dupuis without Crosby, which is not much. If it’s based on career then St. Louis blows Kunitz outta the water. Yzerman said he did not object to St. Louis not being on the team. What a heel. I’ll narrow down my cheering to Go Sweden!!

      • handsofsweed - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:26 PM

        Well, if you’re going to knock Kunitz bc he’s with Crosby, don’t you think you’d be better served by recognizing that ONE of St. Louis’ scoring titles came directly bc Crosby got hurt and NO OTHER REASON?

        Marty’s a hell of a player, but you know GD well he doesn’t come within 20 points of Sid last year without the shattered jaw.

  11. jb8588 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:02 PM

    It boggles my mind how a guy like Marty keeps getting snubbed. He is one of the most unique and gifted hockey players in recent memory, and even won the Art Ross last season at his age to prove to everybody he isn’t slowing down anytime soon. It’s just REALLY strange why he keeps getting snubbed…

    • bencia823 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:25 PM

      For the same reason why Kunitz got a spot, I would have figured that Marty would have gotten one too. His chemistry with Stamkos and his high level numbers of late all merit a spot on that roster next month.

      • handsofsweed - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:29 PM

        This is how you make your point, Ribsy. Right here.

  12. eagles512 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:05 PM

    What a joke. Giroux is one of the best 5-6 players in the world. Hope they lose every game.

    • hockey412 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:15 PM

      What are you basing THAT on? He’s definitely one of the best 5-6 on the Flyers team…

      • narfmoo12 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:32 PM

        He leads the team in scoring, plays shutdown defense, and is the top pair center killing penalties. Sorry to throw facts at you there Hockey412.

      • hockey412 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:40 PM

        He leads THE FLYERS in scoring…but he’s 22nd in the league (behind Kunitz)…for all that great defense, he’s only a plus 2 even with 38 points…Kunitz is a plus 22 and is as tough a player in the defensive zone as you’ll fine (as evidenced by the numbers). All of your info there is just comparing him to the other FLYERS, a team that is still barely in playoff position.

      • malkamania71 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:39 PM

        leading the flyers in scoring is like being the smartest kid with down syndrome

      • kyzslew77 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:44 PM

        I could go out there and be a +22 playing on Crosby’s wing. Kunitz is nothing special. (Full disclosure: Caps fan here, hate the Flyers and Pens equally, but Giroux is a much better player than Kunitz.)

      • hockey412 - Jan 8, 2014 at 8:10 AM

        ok, I’ll fight your “logic” with logic.

        1) No, you couldn’t.
        2) Yes, he is, and always has been (even without Crosby) a very good hockey player.
        3) No, not in this case. Canada’s ok with Centers, needed a wing. Giroux’s not a natural wing and he and Crosby don’t seem to get along, actually Giroux comes off like a whiney terd, then skipped orientation…it shows what Giroux’s dedication level to Canada is.

      • trigzter - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:32 PM

        you’re not going to build a line around kunitz…don’t kid yourselves. he’s a complimentary player.

      • hockey412 - Jan 8, 2014 at 8:12 AM

        Isn’t that what Canada needed? Giroux’s a decent Center. Good Playmaker. Canada has enough. Canada’s ok with Centers, needed a wing. Giroux’s not a natural wing and he and Crosby don’t seem to get along, actually Giroux comes off like a whiney terd, then skipped orientation…it shows what Giroux’s dedication level to Canada is.

      • flyerspsu - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:53 PM

        Voracek is 2nd on the flyers in points with 29, Giroux has the least support of any of the players on Canada and has to anchor pretty much the entire offense himself

        Giroux works his ass off, is solid defensively, is 3rd in the NHL in points since the 2012 season and maybe most importantly shows up and takes over in the biggest games
        Unlike players like Nash and Carter

        Giroux has 55 pts in 50 playoff games

        Giroux should have made it over Nash, Carter and Kunitz

      • hockey412 - Jan 8, 2014 at 8:12 AM

        Canada’s ok with Centers, needed a wing. Giroux’s not a natural wing and he and Crosby don’t seem to get along, actually Giroux comes off like a whiney terd, then skipped orientation…it shows what Giroux’s dedication level to Canada is.

        Maybe over Carter…but LA fans don’t seem to agree.

    • mp1131211 - Jan 7, 2014 at 5:48 PM

      No he’s not. Haha… not even top 20

  13. flyersfan67 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:08 PM

    Team canada does it again. Thought the bobby Ryan snub was bad, this is a joke. Nash on the team, talk about going on past performances, he’s been terrible since arriving in ny. And Kunitz, only reason he’s on the team is cause he’s crosby’s lap dog. What a joke

    • hockey412 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:17 PM

      Kunitz has been a far better player than Giroux for 2 years now (this year included)…I’m not sure how they could have made any other decision.

      • narfmoo12 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:35 PM

        Kunitz had 5 more points than Giroux last year, but never plays defense or on the penalty kill. Giroux also didn’t have Crosby to help him rack up the points. But yes, Kunitz is much better than Giroux! I’m sure every GM in the league agrees with your point.

      • hockey412 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:43 PM

        The Pens don’t NEED him on PK…if he played for the Flyers, maybe he would. The Flyers take more minor penalties than any other team in the league, except for 2 of them, so when you are always on PK you may want to put your most talented player out there and see what happens. I’d actually love to hear what other GM’s say…I know what Yzerman says, and I agree. But you know better? Nah.

      • malkamania71 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:44 PM

        You clearly don’t ever watch Kunitz play so stop talking like you know what you’re talking about. Kunitz is superb on the PK and currently 6th in the league in scoring. But sure, ill totally take your word for it over Steve Yzerman’s.

      • kastout11 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:22 PM

        Hockey412, You might be the dumbest person I have ever seen on this website or you know absolutely nothing about hockey. It is amusing to even bring up that Kunitz is comparable to Giroux.

      • hockey412 - Jan 8, 2014 at 8:11 AM

        You’re the dumberest.

  14. mfinneran - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:12 PM

    Canada will be lucky if they win one game.

    • bucrightoff - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:24 PM

      You bet. Austria and Norway are going to take them to the woodshed…

      • ray2013 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:38 PM

        I’m disappointed I could only like this once.

  15. homegrowntalentmn - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:20 PM

    U-S-A! USA all the way!

  16. eagles512 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:21 PM

    Kunitz better than Giroux. Oh boy… that is funny.

  17. sjsharks66 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:23 PM

    Hmm… No Thornton? What a joke. The guy is leading the league with assists and is showing no sign of those numbers slowing down.

  18. slaugin - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:27 PM

    There was no way Julien/Ciarelli want Neal on their team after he Knee’d their player in the head

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:46 PM

      didn’t think of that, but now that you said it, I’m wondering how much his dirty play played into that decision.

    • antmel30 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:58 PM

      For all the giroux haters. Do a little google search of top scorers in past 3 or 4 seasons. Only two players are ahead of giroux in last 3 yrs. hockey 24 you know where Kunitz is on that list because he is not in top 10 so please stop with Kunitz is better than g. You build a team around giroux I doubt anyone would build a team around Kunitz. How many times has Kunitz been cut. He owes his career to Crosby. Kunitz is like leclaire mediocre talent who needed a superstar to help him out.

      • buysamadrink - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:46 PM

        So, how’s building a team around Giroux worked out for you so far?

      • flyerspsu - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:59 PM

        Considering the 2nd leading scorer on the team is voracek with 29 points and the rest of the forwards are mostly 3rd line players or at best 2nd line I think Giroux is doing pretty great getting the Flyers in 2nd in metro right now

      • mp1131211 - Jan 7, 2014 at 5:57 PM

        What the hell are you talking about?

        This year: 26th in P, not even top 30 in G;
        2012-2013: 14th in P, not even top 30 in G
        2011-2012: 3rd in P, not even top 30 in G
        2010-2011: 13th in P, not even top 30 in G

      • mp1131211 - Jan 7, 2014 at 5:58 PM

        They are building a team around Giroux because they have no other choice. They have to pick a captain. They can’t just tell the whole team they suck.

  19. mclovinhockey - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:41 PM

    Team Canada did not medal earlier this month… Now they snub some of the best players in the world (G and Thornton) for some one sided players like Carter…. I would have taken Wayne Simmonds over Carter haha..
    Seriously, I am an American living in Canada… I like both teams, but first US cuts my former team mate bobby Ryan (well, we both tried out for the same club haha) now Canada leaves out two of the best playmakers in the league!?!? It’s really strange since last month G was better than 99.99% of the league, so the what have you done for me lately really favoured him to be a first liner. Oh well….

    • buysamadrink - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:59 PM

      Typical Philly homer response. Wayne Simmonds? Really? As for Fraud Giroux, it seems the Philly faithful conveniently forgets about the horrendous start this guy had.

      • kastout11 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:17 PM

        He rushed back after surgery and everyone could tell his hand had not healed yet. Now that he is healty, you are seeing the real Giroux (one of the top 10 players in the world).

      • buysamadrink - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:46 PM

        The excuse factory is officially open! I knew the excuses for Giroux’s performance would come at some point. “Top 10 in the world” yet team Canada chose 14 forwards over him. If you’re team Canada and you have a Top 10 player in the world (as you claim) you find a way to get him on the roster. Fact is he’s not.

      • valoisvipers - Jan 7, 2014 at 5:05 PM

        Simmonds is a really good player and provides a lot of grit and net presence. If this was on the smaller rink surface he would be a good choice.

    • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:54 PM

      mc, There so much going on about Giroux… tell me who would you remove to insert him;


      Jamie Benn/John Tavares

      • flyerspsu - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:09 PM

        Carter, Nash, Kunitz … any pick of the litter

      • joey4id - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:18 PM


        You would want to see Giroux on the 4th line replacing Carter? That’s bad!

        What chemistry does Giroux have with Crosby? Nil! Why remove Kunitz when you can have instant chemistry?

        Nash… Hmmm! This is debatable. However, Nash has had a lot of success at the international level. Would Giroux be effective playing in the bottom 6? idk. I don’t think replacing Nash would be a bad move, nor do I think selecting Nash to be in the bottom 6 is a bad move.

  20. eagles512 - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:52 PM

    I do watch Kunitz. He’s a fine player but not in Giroux’ class.

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:55 PM

      they were saying the same about Dupuis last year….

  21. ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 12:53 PM

    that’s OK, G. just makes me feel not-as-bad about rooting so hard against team Canada, not to mention the chip that’ll be on his shoulder vs the Devs tonight.

    U! S! A!

  22. lonespeed - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:28 PM

    Why no mention of Jeff Skinner? Has 20 goals / 33 points in 10 – 12 games less than the league leaders. Been named to NHL three stars of the week twice. Two hat tricks on the year. Is so hot he could probably score in Sochi from here. One of the best skaters in the NHL which would translate exceptionally well to Olympic size ice.

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

      to be fair, this roster had probably already been determined since he came back and really turned it on over this last 6 games or however many it’s been.

      my fantasy team is loving him right now though. waiver wire pickup of the year.

      • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:39 PM

        before he came back*

  23. pantherpro - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:30 PM

    Joe Thornton is again leading league in assists. Hall of Fame for sure. Big mistake but Joe will hoist Cup this year so take a flying leap team Canada

    • comeonnowguys - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:45 PM

      Hoist the Cup? Sounds like you just took a flying leap from reality.

  24. hockeyfan28 - Jan 7, 2014 at 1:38 PM

    Claude should just become a U.S, citizen ala Hakeem Olajuwon and play for the U.S. Squad in 2018 then he can point and make fun of Hockey Canada for leaving him off the roster

    • killerpgh - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:01 PM

      I think Brett Hull would be a better example. Hull got “snubbed” be team Canada in 86 so the USA invited him to camp since he had dual citizenship. Hull never play international for a team other than USA after that.

  25. kellyb9 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:12 PM

    Glad Giroux wasn’t picked… as a Flyers fan, I’d hate to have to root against him. Take some time off…. and no golf!

  26. kastout11 - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:14 PM

    Anyone who thinks that Kunitz is even in the same class as Giroux just knows nothing about hockey or is a big-time Penguins homer. Giroux is 22nd in scoring because he had a hand that clearly was not healed and half the team showed up to camp out of shape. Look at his scoring output over the last 2 months. It stinks for Giroux not getting an opportunity to represent his counrty, but selfishly, I have no problem with the best player on Philly and one of the best 10 players in the NHL getting 2 weeks to rest for the stretch run. I would be happy is none of the Flyers would go to Sochi. I am actually excited that Canada has players like Kunitz and Carter, and the US does not have to worry about trying to stop Giroux, St. Louis and Thorton. I actually think that the USA and Sweeden can skate with and even possibly beat Team Canada. Without Crosby, Kunitz would be lucky to have a 50 point season and be a plus, let alone a plus 22.

  27. toiletclown - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:46 PM

    how funny is it that all these flygirl fanboys are so mad and that their blow boy gayroux didnt make the team. I guess they have their homer goggles on cus from the outside looking in, that giroux kid is as worthless as a week old used tampon.

  28. andyisfat - Jan 7, 2014 at 2:59 PM

    Sissy Cindy got all of her boyfriends on the roster. She will have a different ball bag bouncing off of her chin every night of the olmpics.

    • greenmtnboy31 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:28 PM

      Uh oh, someone’s team got their a$$ handed to them because Sid put the bisket in the basket and now they’re still whining.

  29. andyisfat - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:00 PM

    Sissy Cindy got all of her boyfriends on the roster. She will have a different ball bag bouncing off of her chin every night of the Olympics.

  30. greenmtnboy31 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:05 PM

    Not including St. Louis on this team just improved every other teams chances and brought Canada down an notch.

  31. ml3939 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:29 PM

    There is no way Giroux should not be on this team. An argument can be made for him against anyone on this team not named Crosby, Tavares, Stamkos and Toews. I think Bergeron should also absolutely be there based on his skill set. Nash and Carter have no business being on this team ahead of him. I also understand Giroux is not an ideal fit at left wing but Kunitz doesn’t touch Giroux. Don’t let uneducated Penguins fans goad you into that argument. You won’t beat an idiot in an argument. You already have one guy stating Kunitz’s plus/minus is a way of comparing their defensive abilities.

  32. berdman14 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:45 PM

    So as a flyers fan, I can clearly see why Kunitz was chosen. Same deal with backes/oshie on team USA. Teams don’t have a lot of time to work together and mesh as a team. Kunitz and Crosby have been pretty money and team Canada wants that to keep rolling in the playoffs. I don’t see how Jeff carter made it. Maybe b/c of his specialty abilities on PP and shoot outs. Bit it’s hard to justify a snub to g, hall, traveres for carter. They are faster and better 2ways and all can take faceoffs then Jeff.

    • ibieiniid - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:15 PM

      why don’t thoughtful people like this guy comment more? instead, we have to listen to whammy and malkamania

  33. berdman14 - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:47 PM

    Sorry I meant seguin not traveres

  34. blackandorangeforlife - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:49 PM

    I posted this comment the other day…..How can there be any snubs on Team Canada with the talent pool they pull from?….You cant please all of the people all of the time!
    Go U.S.A!

  35. sonofsamiam - Jan 7, 2014 at 3:52 PM

    Thornton is not on the team because you can’t move him to the wing and Canada has 5 better centers on the roster. Simple as that.

  36. hawksin5 - Jan 7, 2014 at 4:07 PM

    I don’t really know where to start. Seabrook being left off this team for guys like hamhuis, buowmeester?! Are you kidding? That’s wrong for a number of reasons I don’t want to go on about. Kind of shocked about giroux. But to be fair he has played like garbage this year. Can’t believe they took Kunitz. I don’t care what people say, he would be NOWHERE without Crosby. Feel bad for MSL and hall, but I see why. Jeff carter? Oh my god. I will say though sharp-toews-stamkos is a filthy line.

    • vaz32014 - Jan 8, 2014 at 11:45 AM

      Does anyone remember that Kunitz was a 25 goal scorer for Anaheim before he became a Penguin? He scored 19, 25 and 21 and was on his way to over 25 when he was traded. He is a very skilled and underrated player who cleans up well in front of the net. Many of his power play goals are tips or rebounds where he excels. He is also fast enough to keep up with Crosby. G is a top player and could be on the team in place of a couple guys, but chemistry is important with the small amount of time to prepare and Kunitz will be an asset to Team Canada.

  37. anthonycarch22 - Jan 7, 2014 at 5:34 PM

    Giroux didn’t make it cause he’s a terrible skater. And they are worried about him on the big surface. Same reason he dropped in the draft

    • ml3939 - Jan 7, 2014 at 6:47 PM

      How much does it cost to have access to your website and your advanced scouting reports? The one knock against Giroux is his size. How do you just make this ish up and think no one will call you out on it? Here is what hockey futures said about him prior to the draft-

      “Giroux’s greatest talent is his playmaking ability. Boasting excellent hands and great vision, the diminutive winger is able to use his quick skating ability to turn something out of nothing. Giroux, despite his size disadvantage, does not mind getting his nose dirty, and will stand in to take a hit in order to make a play. He does get bodied often, but the shifty winger is agile enough to avoid checks on a regular basis.”

      If “quick skating ability” means terrible skater, I apologize now.

  38. iHeartHockey31 - Jan 7, 2014 at 10:05 PM

    To be fair on the Joe Thornton snub, it’s possible Steve Yzerman thought so highly on Thornton, he was worried there was a possibility he could get 4 goals in one of the games … resulting in the goal celebration Thornton described earlier this season, which on the international stage could cause some waves with the media that GM Yzerman didn’t want to worry about dealing with.

  39. dlk75150 - Jan 7, 2014 at 11:40 PM

    I don’t get the Steve Nash thing. Who thinks he’s really that good. Overrated just like brad Richards.

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