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Report: Flyers and Isles ‘taking serious runs’ at acquiring Pacioretty

Dec 22, 2013, 12:25 PM EDT

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Larry Brooks of the New York Post shares a rumor in his Sunday column that qualifies as curious.

Brooks says the Montreal Canadiens are getting calls on forward Max Pacioretty and both the New York Islanders and Philadelphia Flyers are “taking serious runs at him.”

Pacioretty being mentioned at all in this light is fascinating because he’s on a cap-friendly deal that sees him get $4.5 million per season through 2018-19. Pacioretty also leads the Habs in goals scored with 15 and he’s missed nine games this season. He’s also led Montreal in scoring the past two seasons.

While all of those traits would make for great reasons why teams would want to pick him up, it doesn’t make a world of sense for Montreal to do it.

Ideally, Pacioretty is the kind of player Montreal GM Marc Bergevin would love to have around, but Brooks says coach Michel Therrien isn’t a big fan of his.

Teams will always call to find out about a player’s availability, but if there’s anything at all to this chatter, the reaction in Montreal won’t be positive.

  1. ribs108 - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:41 PM

    Max deserves the chance to get out of Montreal and go to a successful (within the last 20 years) franchise. I’m sure it wouldn’t be too difficult to fleece the well-dressed Habs GM as he has so far proven to follow closely in the footsteps of his last 2 predecessors. Hey Marc, he’s injury-prone, hasn’t learned french yet and is a little too large to be on your team, don’t ya think?? Besides, Michel says he plays too soffff…

  2. cjnbsc - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    Makes very little sense from Montreal’s perspective. Trade one of their only goal scoters when they can’t score goals as it is. Plus he’s young, has size (though he’s not very physical) and very cap friendly.

    But everyone is available for the right price.

    Assuming Philly would have to build a deal around Couturier or Schenn.

    The Islanders could put together a very impressive pool of prospects though. And maybe Frans Nielsen or someone?

    Still. All of these trades seem to be trading a dollar for four quarters.

  3. steelers88 - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Why are the Islanders going after another forward? They don’t need another forward. Here is an idea how about going after defensemen? Or how about a goalie?

    • islanders1 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      I guess he does not have a no trade clause because who would go to the Islander’s right now. They looked like they were getting better last year nice try in the playoff’s then they get nothing in the off season and get rid of a 30 goal scorer and draft picks with a need on defense. If you want to trade someone it should come out of the front office before he brings back Ricky D on a new 7 year deal for 7.5 per season.

  4. lowenni - Dec 22, 2013 at 12:54 PM

    That would be stupid for both the Isles and Philly. First of all, Garth Snow needs to stop looking for scoring wingers and get what he really needs…A CAPABLE DEFENSEMAN AND A GOALIE. And Philly should only make this trade if they can seriously upgrade over one of their already top-six players, but I still think they should look to upgrade their D instead.

  5. devilsarethebest - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    I’d love to have him in Jersey but wouldn’t want to give away what it would probably take to get him. Unless Montreal is interested in Larsson.

  6. statsdolie - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    People the flyers are not trading Couturier. With that being said I don’t see what the flyers currently have that would entice such a trade for Montreal. Also Max is not a defender so I don’t understand the logic. I do believe the flyers are willing the move schenn but his trade value is not high enough to fetch a decent return.

    • flyerspsu - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:24 PM

      schenn has a lot of a value, obviously not as much as pacioretty but you can center a trade around schenn for someone like pacioretty

  7. ruthlessandtoothless - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    He would be an improvement over Hartnell in the top 6 thats for sure

  8. deathbat20 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    As a Flyers fan this scares me, having said that part of being a Flyers fan is being in constant fear of what the front office is gonna do

    • flyerspsu - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:34 PM

      honestly there are very few players on the Flyers that aren’t disposable, i just hope he doesnt trade Couturier, thats really the only tradeable piece id be afraid of dealing

      • mcphillthy - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:10 PM

        Couturier isn’t even on the table.

  9. mattymarts17 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

    When did he move to defense Garth?!?!?

  10. 19to77 - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:33 PM

    Word is the Habs are looking for an aging, undersized skill forward with no physical presence and underwhelming point production, who makes up for it all by speaking French.

    You know, business as usual.

  11. 950003cups - Dec 22, 2013 at 1:44 PM

    We have plenty of cap space left (thanks Kovy) send him over!

    • devilsarethebest - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      Do we really? The folks at CapGeek didn’t seem to know.

  12. crazemastercraze - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Cap friendly contract? There’s no truth to the story then, the Flyers aren’t interested in those types of contracts!

  13. flyerspsu - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    This actually makes a lot of sense for the Flyers, its clear Holmgren really screwed up building the core, they lack skill, defensive responsibility and hockey IQ to compete with the contenders, they need to make a big trade like this, the Flyers have 1 player in double digits for goals and are 22nd in GPG

    Brayden schenn is the 1st name that comes to mine as someone who the Flyers could center a deal around to make a big move

    Scott Laughton is another name, hes the Flyers top prospect, a shutdown, gritty center who has great intangibles and is the captain of the Canada WJC team, Montreal is desperate to get tougher, they would love this guy, but it would take a lot more than Laughton to get is done

    • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 22, 2013 at 7:14 PM

      Sorry But no way do they move Laughton….Same with Schenn and Couturier!….These were the main two reasons for the Richards/Carter trades!

      • mcphillthy - Dec 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM

        Schenn is very tradeable. Laughton is looking good. Very good! Don’t think for a second that Schenn isn’t expendable for the right price. I’d say no way to moving Schenn before laughton emerged. Trade both schenns for a stud dman.

      • flyerspsu - Dec 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM

        and your point is? schenn has been disappointing and is probably not going to develop into the player many thought he would, the Flyers need to make some big moves and you have to give up value to get value

        id trade both schenns for a proven dman, id more keen on keeping laughton, he has the intangibles that come up huge in the biggest moments but id certainly listen to offers for him, same with simmonds

      • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 23, 2013 at 10:25 PM

        Simmonds just dropped another pair plus an assist and 7 points in his last 4 games…..SUre lets trade him….I mean only Giroux and Voracek are hotter at the moment….And Schenn is on his way to his best season so far….Go check the numbers for your self!

      • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 23, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        Oh and that was 6 points from the trade returns tonight!…..22 points in their last 5!

  14. joey4id - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:31 PM

    idk, I guess if Therrien is not a big fan of his then, why not. But! The bigger question is; is Bergevin a big fan of Therrien? I don’t think the GM should trade a player because the coach doesn’t like him. The guy produces, and we all know that coaches have a shorter shelf left than players. The Habs will want a French speaking player in the trade, but, if I were Couturier I would beg not to be traded to Montreal.

    • 19to77 - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:50 PM

      It sounds a lot like the situation that saw Ryan McDonagh traded to NYR as part of the package for Scott freaking Gomez. Great prospect, but the coach didn’t like him, so boom! Voted off the island. And now he’s a top-tier defenseman for a conference rival and the Habs are still paying Gomez’s buyout off. It was admittedly a different coach at the time, but still. Sounds pretty similar to me.

      • joey4id - Dec 22, 2013 at 10:02 PM

        McDonagh never played with Montreal before he was traded.

  15. bcisleman - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:33 PM

    Folks, the source is Larry Brooks who is hardly reliable for Islander info and even he says “we are told”. Only way Isles’ trading for MP makes sense is if they are planning to trade Vanek. If that’s true, getting MP would make a lot of sense for the Isles–depending on the price tag.

    • 19to77 - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:52 PM

      That actually wouldn’t be a bad idea if the Habs are willing to play ball. Not a snowball’s chance in hell Vanek resigns with the Isles at this point, so try to move him for someone with a long-term deal and make the best of the mistake that was the Moulson trade?

      • bcisleman - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        Wouldn’r rule out Vanek re-signing w/ the Isles. The money would have to be right and he’d have to believe in the team’s future as this season is all but shot now.

        I really like Matty. My sweater is a Moulson sweater! Snow must have felt that Matty would never help the team get to the level they need to be at to bring home the hardware. We’ll see what happens.

  16. jamesthegreat03 - Dec 22, 2013 at 2:44 PM

    As a flyer fan i dont know why they would really do this, and the islanders are even more confusing, should’nt you guys try to get a goalie?

  17. mclovinhockey - Dec 22, 2013 at 3:21 PM

    As a flyers fan living in Montreal, I have to say, I love PAC, I think he would be perfect with G and ace. However… Why would these teams do this?
    The Habs have a ton of good young players like galchenyuk and Gallagher, makes sense to keep max with them.

    Philly would have to give up some depth. They moved Richards and Carter to add great depth to the team and making this move (would prob cost schenn+ another good depth player) would be a step backwards from the direction they are moving in.
    The isles would be making a move that would be very unhelpful to their team as well since they would be giving up a lot to grab another forward…

  18. twpguy1964 - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    Shut up Brooks! The Habs are going to trade one of the only wingers they have with size, not too mention goal scorer? Go back to the NY slums

  19. buysamadrink - Dec 22, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    I agree this doesn’t make sense for Montreal unless someone is willing to grossly overpay. Given that, I can’t say its surprising to hear these two GM’s are the ones interested.

  20. 7mantel - Dec 22, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Who would believe anything that comes from the NY POST !

  21. multiplemiggs - Dec 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Shut your mouths if you dont know what your talking about. The NY Post actually reports accurate news a lot faster then any of the other papers and sources. You wouldnt know that bc your in that trashy hick town stuffing your faces with cheesesteaks. Like me, they know mostly everything about sports (I called the Moulson/Vanek trade weeks before it happened) and all of their reports are facts. Being I know more than all of you I can say that the Isles will not be a part of trading for this guy. But I’ll just ket you Flyers fan dream on about how every good player is a great fit for your garbage team. Good day. Gosh I love being right all the time.

    • Bruce Knoll Jr. - Dec 23, 2013 at 4:20 AM

      Bahahahaha. I Stopped reading after I saw “NY Post” and “accurate” in the same sentence.

  22. kastout11 - Dec 23, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    I don’t see the Flyers making this move. Certianly, I would not move Couturier, Laughton or Read. I don’t see the Flyers putting a package together to make it happen. I like Schenn, but as long as you send his brother too, I am fine with it.

  23. multiplemiggs - Dec 23, 2013 at 11:03 AM

    @Bruce Knoll Jr. The sad part is you read my entire comment. If you didn’t you wouldn’t have made your own comment on it. Do you lie to your wife the same way when you come home from the motel smelling like tranny hookers? Looks like I’m right again, as usual.

  24. baseball1234567890 - Dec 23, 2013 at 11:36 AM

    Here’s What I would do ” P.S remember that the isles are trying to get him not the canadiens shopping pacioretty so the isles are going to have to overpay”

    NYI gets
    Pacioretty
    Desharnais
    Diaz
    Bozon
    4′th round draft pick

    Montreal Gets
    Okposo
    Nielsen
    Reinhart

    NYI
    improve their defense
    Doesn’t have to worry about chemistry with patches
    strengths their weak wingers prospects ” look at hockey future”

    Montreal
    Gets rid of a bad contract
    gives them another great prospect “Beaulieu”
    gives them 2 million in cap space to resign their soon to be free agents
    gets value for diaz who probably would leave at end of season.

    feel free to comment

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