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Schenn to play tonight; Oates maintains Wilson hit was ‘totally clean’

Dec 19, 2013, 12:23 PM EDT

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Two days after he was sent flying into the boards on a hit by Washington’s Tom Wilson, Philadelphia forward Brayden Schenn will be in the lineup tonight when his Flyers host Columbus.

The hit by Wilson occurred late in the second period and forced Schenn out of the game with what appeared to be a serious injury, possibly a concussion. Wilson received a major penalty and game misconduct for charging.

Is Schenn surprised he’s able to play tonight?

“I really am,” he said, per CSN Philly. “I feel blessed and lucky with what happened. I don’t think I’ve ever gone head-first into the boards – I’ve put my shoulder, elbow, something in the way first. I think I got real lucky on that play.”

That Schenn escaped serious injury may also be good news for Wilson, who’s facing supplementary discipline for the play. Injuries are a factor when the league considers punishment.

Meanwhile, Capitals coach Adam Oates reiterated his belief today that Wilson did nothing wrong.

“[Schenn] chose to try to spin out. Wrong choice,” Oates said, per Frank Seravalli of the Philadelphia Daily News. “To me, it’s a totally clean hit.”

Related: Capitals don’t see much wrong with Wilson’s hit on Schenn

  1. pxland - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:33 PM

    Another thing to consider about trying to clean up the game (with regards to this story: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/12/19/video-the-message-is-not-being-heard-when-it-comes-to-illegal-hits-suspensions/)

    It’s tough to do so, when players coaches, management, and the league all have differing opinions about what an illegal hit is.

    • jpelle82 - Dec 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM

      exactly. how confusing for Wilson, a rookie who’s never had to deal with the league before. he is being publicly told by his coach and manager that what he did was ok. now the league tells him otherwise and is going to punish him for it. hard to trust your coach moving forward if he’s telling you its ok to do things that will cost you money and playing time. do you keep playing that way to please your direct supervisor or follow what the league mandates, change your behavior and possibly jeopardize your “development” in the eyes of the guys with your life in their hands? tough position they are putting this kid in.

  2. freneticgarfieldfan - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:35 PM

    Would Oates argue the same way if the same situation happened vice-versa?

    • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

      The situation has happened vice-versa. Quit acting like this is the first charging call ever. WHINERS!

      • narfmoo12 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        Oates whined when Hertl scored an awesome goal against the Caps earlier this year. He said it was disrespectful to the game and insinuated that if Hertl hadn’t been benched for the final 8 minutes, that he would have had his tough guys take him out. … But Oates doesn’t whine at all, right?

      • hatrick192 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:50 PM

        hahaha narfmoo12 youre a complete idiot huh? Hertl must be VERY IMPRESSIVE to score an “awesome goal” against a team he has yet to play against this year.

      • narfmoo12 - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:05 PM

        Maybe I can’t say one of the words I used and that’s why my reply didn’t show up … Sorry for assuming that when Oates whined about Hertl’s goal, the goal was scored against HIS TEAM. So Oates actually whined about a goal scored against a different team. That’s even worse.

  3. disp350 - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    O A T E S + M C P H E E = L O O S E R S

    Guess the league feels differently Nuff said

    • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:46 PM

      WHats funny in that comment is that you spelled LOSERS wrong. YOU SIR, ARE AN IDIOT!

      • joey4id - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:05 PM

        Sometimes you want to put an emphasis on a vowels or constants and hold it for effect.

        Ex: Oatessssssssssssss + Mcpheeeeeeeeeeeeee =
        Loooooooooooooooooooooooooooosers! ;-)

      • endusersolutions2013 - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        Regardless of whether the spelling was intentional or not, a typo would still not have anything to do with his IQ, just his typing ability.

        You toss out the idiot label pretty freely given the lack of any real evidence.

        Let me broach a radical concept – civility.

      • shortsxit34 - Dec 19, 2013 at 8:08 PM

        or skinsfolife was just making a joke…

    • jpelle82 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:15 PM

      when added together they’ve been known to loosen things. got it. nuff said

  4. skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:49 PM

    Philly is a funny city. When their player gets leveled, and escorted off the ice the whole town cries like a bunch of LOSERS. When their goaltender squares up and beats the tar out of an unwilling participant they all puff their chests out. Decide who you want to be. The hard, blue collar city that you all try to be, or the whiney bunch of fair weather fans that the world sees you as.

    • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:06 PM

      “whole town cries like a bunch of LOSERS”….Funny…..99% of Flyers fans on this site have acted the opposite from what you describe!

    • Meta - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

      I love it when people make incredibly stupid generalizations about fan bases. I’m a Flyer fan and I think I can speak for a large amount of them in saying that what Emery did to Holtby was completely wrong and he deserved to be severely punished for it. that being said, the hit Wilson laid on Schenn was clearly a charge and clearly a dangerous play that Wilson should be punished for as well. Think before you post stupid comments.

      • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

        Who didn’t think there was going to be retaliation?

      • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:25 PM

        “Who didn’t think there was going to be retaliation?”……Might be the reason Wilson has to answer the phone!

      • flyerspsu - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        How is this retaliation for the emery incident? Are you saying Wilson had that in mind when he came flying in for the hit? He didnt, it was a heated, physical game and Wilson got carried away and delivered a dangerous reckless hit

        the “payback” was 2 seconds after the emery fight Oleksy jumped Lecavalier throwing about 5 sucker punches where Lecavalier got facial injuries, how was that not payback? its pretty frustrating how so many people didnt see it, watch a fan video and you will see it all

    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:41 PM

      Washington is a fun city. When they draft a fragile QB and trade away 3 first round picks and a couple of 2 nd round picks, then come back in 2014 where they get the 2nd overall pick IN A DRAFT FULL OF REAL QB’S and have to give it away. Ouch…..

    • phillyphanatic77 - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:37 PM

      Who in the hell was “puffing out their chests”?! The Flyers lost the game 7-0. Emery beating up a helpless goaltender did nothing to improve our spirits, let alone make us act as if we’re proud of it. Emery was wrong. Wilson was wrong. And so are Oates and GMGM. This whole argument that “Flyers fans can’t say anything because they were called the Broad St Bullies (30 years ago) and have had illegal hits themselves” is totally ridiculous. Were Pens fans not complaining about Thornton eventhough James Neal pulled a scumbag move an kneed someone in the head prior to that? Every team has had regrettable transgressions… it’s hockey for gods sake! But those incidents don’t disqualify us from commenting on a dirty play by an opposing player. If it did then no fan, anywhere, would ever be able to comment on any of these plays.

      And by the way, you can say a lot about Philly but we are not fair-weather fans. I’ve seen more than enough losing in my lifetime, from all four major teams, but the support from the City has NEVER wavered.

  5. bowman20 - Dec 19, 2013 at 12:56 PM

    Never saw Philly fans as “fair-weather”. A lot of other things, but true to their teams. Anyway, I think Oats is too caught up on the hit being clean more than what the call was. It wasn’t boarding or roughing, the call was charging. Which you clearly see Wilson skate full speed towards Schenn and even excelerate into the hit. Spin, no spin, numbers, no numbers….it’s charging dude. If the call was in fact boarding, then argue away. And for the record, I’m a Flyers fan, I think that was the right call and I think what Emery did was dead wrong and any penalties, fines, maybe even a game is understandable.

    • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:07 PM

      Emery is a thug. If all of you want to come on here and cry about cleaning up the game then clean up your own backyard first. Everyone who knows a thing about hockey knew that something was going to go down during the game. It was charging. Wilson skated from North Jersey to lay the lumber, but at least Schenn saw it coming, and wasn’t completely helpless like Hotlby was. Emery should have been suspended 10 games and this incident doesn’t happen. This is Shanahan’s fault for not disciplining Emery for clearly being nothing but a thug.

      • flyerspsu - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:55 PM

        jesus christ our thug BACK UP goalie lost his mind and beat someone up, it was bad, he should have been punished but to claim that the team as a whole is very dirty as result and cant complain about any other dirty plays is ridiculous

        this now the 2nd bad suspended hit the capitals have delivered on a Flyer in their last 5 games; Erskine’s elbow on Simmonds being the other

        there have been 31 suspensions this year assuming Wilson gets one, the Flyers have zero, but sure dirtiest team in the league …

  6. skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    @joey4ld
    What is a constant when speaking about grammar? I think you meant consonant?

    • joey4id - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      Indeed! Thank you. ;-)

  7. joey4id - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    I not a fan of either team, and I like Schenn and Wilson. This hit, though illegal because of the distance traveled, was not dirty. You need to look at so many factors before calling it dirty. 1) perp – 19 years old 2) location act – so much emphasis is placed on playing below the goal line and or fore checking 3) equipment – the game is faster than ever before 4) players – bigger and fearless

    To me it wasn’t dirty. It was a display of excessive exuberance by a rookie trying to stay in the NHL.

    • har21441 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      I agree with you, but I think they are considering the position of Schenn on the ice for any additional punishment. That hit on the open ice gets the charging major and that’s the end of it. Charging someone within a bodies length of the boards so that the impact of the charge propels him into the boards are what makes this play that much more dangerous and subject to additional discipline.

      • joey4id - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:47 PM

        copy that. 3 games enough?

      • hatrick192 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        so what youre saying is that anyone that is within reaching distance of the boards can put their bodies in whatever position they want and have zero responsibility as to what happens to them? might as well just paint a line 2 feet off the boards and have it go all the way around the rink and deem this a NO HITTING ZONE.

      • hazlydose - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        No, what he is saying is that hitting someone along the boards with the purpose of propelling them forcefully into the boards is a dangerous play. Kind of why the NHL has that boarding rule…

  8. Meta - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM

    @skinsfolife

    “Who didn’t think there was going to be retaliation?”

    You have excellent reasoning skills.

    • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:17 PM

      I like to think of it as rational thinking/reality. There is, and never was any claim that I was reasoning. I was strictly being realistic. How in the world did you mistake that as reasonability?

      • trigzter - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        nothing realistic about that bro. just a stupid comment

      • Meta - Dec 19, 2013 at 4:23 PM

        God man you just keep proving how stupid you are

    • skinsfolife - Dec 19, 2013 at 8:33 PM

      NO SUSPENSION! BAM!!!!!

  9. 19to77 - Dec 19, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    I hope Wilson takes a similar “totally clean” hit tonight as well, then, just to hear Oates and co. squeal and cry about it as a cheapshot. Since, you know, it’s only dirty if it’s on one of their guys.

  10. cspsrbums - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:11 PM

    @19-77
    As a Caps fan Oates Is. PUxxy when it comes to gooning it up. If he would of taken care of business on the opening face off in Washington he would be known for paybacks. In my opinion he should have. But his statement in not whining he said it’s not a dirty hit and doesn’t deserve a penalty. While I disagree with not getting a penalty by where it was on the ice. Open ice you here nothing about it The not a dirty hit part he is correct there was nothing wrong with the hit itself, he didn’t target Schenn he was the lucky one who had the puck. An yes if it was the other way around what would Philly fans be saying? And be for real

    • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:36 PM

      I would say the same thing i have already……Distance traveled made it a charge…..Wilson takes 2-3 strides as he hits the face off dot thus accelerating into the hit for the sole purpose of a “Big Hit”……No issue with the hit itself as it was clean…..Also dont have an issue with the distance traveled even though it was a charge….I do have an issue with the extra strides he took……I dont think Wilson is dirty, I dont think his intent was dirty…..The Refs made the right call on the ice……I would see no more then a fine…..But it’s not on us “Philly” fans for what Shanny will do!

  11. cspsrbums - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:12 PM

    Wilson should get no more then what he got and a verbal warning for his record

  12. sjsharks66 - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:34 PM

    Wait, so this hit is acceptable but Hertl celebrating scoring 4 goals in a game is wrong? Ok, thanks for clearing that up Oates!

  13. eagles512 - Dec 19, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    Oates has become a total idiot

  14. hazlydose - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:05 PM

    This is why these hits keep happening. The coaches and those in positions of power in the organizations condone it. Of course Tom Wilson is going to keep making that hit if coach tells him its okay, thats just how locker rooms are. Its time to start punishing the team as well as the player for suspensions.

  15. drewsylvania - Dec 19, 2013 at 3:44 PM

    Enjoyed him as a player, but Oates is either dumb as a post or a little s**t.

  16. skr213 - Dec 19, 2013 at 4:21 PM

    In related news, it turns out Oates has never actually read Rule 42.

    • sabatimus - Dec 19, 2013 at 5:09 PM

      Since I don’t think Oates is stupid, I’m going with “never actually read Rule 42″ or “little s**t”.

  17. cspsrbums - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:10 PM

    @flyerspsu
    Sucker punch? what are you talking about ?the flyers went after the Caps that game,they were losing 7-0. not the Caps. The flyers tried to go after the Caps rookies and our new player and got the Axxes handed to them. I don’t know what game you watched.
    Oh By the way I guess the NHL agrees with Oates Wilson didn’t get any further suspensions. Will see you in March

    • flyerspsu - Dec 20, 2013 at 1:15 AM

      oleksy sucker punched lecavalier about 4 times to start the fight … watch a fan video, the tv broadcast only catches the end of the fight

      “the flyers tried to go after the Caps rookies and our new player and got the Axxes handed to them.”
      can you explain where and when that was the case? lol and who is the “new player”

      the flyers, especially simmonds, were pissed they were down 7-0, so simmonds threw 2 hard, legal checks, the caps didnt like it so they went at him, simmonds gladly obliged and beat wilson …emery obviously beat holtby however way you look at it, schenn beat his guy and oleksy beat lecavalier, where exactly were either of the things you claimed?

      • flyerspsu - Dec 20, 2013 at 4:55 AM

        start the fight with lecavalier*

        maybe thats where you misread or misinterpreted what i said, oleksy didnt start the brawl, he sucker punched lecavalier a few times

  18. cspsrbums - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:12 PM

    I guess Oates knows the rules a little better then you guys no further suspension for Wilson.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 19, 2013 at 6:58 PM

      No, idiot. Wilson got a 5-minute major for the hit. It wasn’t rescinded. He merely got no supplemental discipline.

  19. cspsrbums - Dec 19, 2013 at 7:22 PM

    No further Was the keep word idiot. The penalty was a judgment call clown. You can’t take it back

    • drewsylvania - Dec 19, 2013 at 7:51 PM

      Oates said it was “a clean hit”. Look it up.

    • drewsylvania - Dec 19, 2013 at 7:51 PM

      “Totally clean”. It’s right there in the f**king title.

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