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Capitals don’t see much wrong with Wilson’s hit on Schenn

Dec 18, 2013, 9:45 AM EDT

The hit Washington Capitals forward Tom Wilson put on Philadelphia Flyers forward Brayden Schenn during the Flyers’ 5-2 win on Tuesday certainly grabbed everyone’s attention.

Wilson’s major penalty for charging helped turn the tide of the game as the Flyers scored twice on the power play. You’d think the Capitals would be upset about a young player taking a bad penalty. You’d be very wrong.

CSNWashington.com’s Chuck Gormley heard from Caps GM George McPhee who called it “a great hit.” Coach Adam Oates said he thought the hit was “clean” and wasn’t worthy of a penalty. Captain Alex Ovechkin even expounded on it.

“To be honest with you I don’t think it was a dirty play,” Ovechkin said. “He saw him coming. He turned and Willy’s a big boy. It’s always dangerous play out there, but it’s hockey.

“When you get a hit, you have to be ready, especially today. I don’t think [Schenn] was ready. Willy finished his check and I don’t think it was two minutes. It was a good hit.”

Safe to say the Flyers feel differently. As for how the league feels, we should find out soon enough.

  1. statsdolie - Dec 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    I wonder how’d they feel if Rinaldo had hit Ovi in such a manner hmm??

    • dsume001 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:18 AM

      you are comparing Shenn to Ovechkin. ha. comedy.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:22 AM

        You completely missed the point. It has nothing to do with comparing Schenn and Ovi, it’s about what if the shoe was on the other foot.

      • dirt2013 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

        The shoe has been on the other foot for the last 40 years.The rest of the east is used to those hits from the Flyers.

      • runhigh24 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:27 AM

        Just because a couple Flyers have a suspension history doesn’t make it ok to obliterate Brayden Schenn.

      • whammy71 - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:59 PM

        Yes it does – its part of the “code”.

    • trick9 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:16 AM

      ”You completely missed the point. It has nothing to do with comparing Schenn and Ovi, it’s about what if the shoe was on the other foot.”

      Yes it is. Ovechkin would never turn his back like that because that leaves you in very dangerous position. Also comparing Wilson hitting Schenn and Rinaldo hitting Ovechkin is comical. Wilson is far bigger than Schenn and Rinaldo would bounce back and get injured himself if he ever tried to hit Ovechkin with that kind of speed.

      • nj666 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:31 AM

        you’re an idiot if you think schenn had any chance of protecting himself from that…

    • riggorules - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:36 PM

      Ovi would have stood up to the hit (which happens each game) instead of turtling at the last second … and everyone would be calling it good ol’ hard hockey. But because Schenn turned away and got hurt, it’s now a hearing.

  2. kastout11 - Dec 18, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    How can he, with a straight face, say he doesn’t see much wrong with that Wilson hit. Skating at full speed, Wilson drilled Schenn face first into the boards. If it had happened to a Capital player, I think he would certainly see something wrong with the hit.

  3. girouxsalem89 - Dec 18, 2013 at 9:54 AM

    That hit was pretty much the most textbook charge there is…

    Guy takes like 3 strides just before contact.

    If these 3 clowns really think there shouldn’t of been any call on that hit they are retarded.

    • jpelle82 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:47 AM

      exactly. they need to read the book on charging. just because he didnt hit him in the back numbers into the wall doesnt mean its a “clean hit”. textbook charging and as it turns out, just as dangerous as the more commonplace boarding or “head-shot” call we are getting used to debating these days

    • whammy71 - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:00 PM

      it was easily charging – but not dirty. Schenn put himself in a vulnerable position at the absolute last second.

      • girouxsalem89 - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

        Those three are claiming it shouldn’t of even been penalized whammy.

        That’s how dumbtheir statements are.

      • girouxsalem89 - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:17 PM

        Those three are claiming it shouldn’t of even been penalized whammy.

        That’s how dumb their statements are.

      • girouxsalem89 - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM

        Damnit double comment.

  4. Stiller43 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:09 AM

    If be didnt pick up the extra speed at the end there, i’d agree.

    Schenn looked directly at him and turned his back. Otherwise its shoulder to shoulder and he likely is fine.

    The extra speed he picks up (combined with schenns actions) made it quite reckless, however

  5. tlndma - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:10 AM

    It was charging. As the announcers said though, Schenn turned at the last minute exposing the back of his shoulder. That said, Schenn was going to get drilled no matter what he did. Players have learned to turn and face the boards to avoid hits. Problem is when the hitter doesn’t back off.
    Tough call for the league.

    • narfmoo12 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      Yeah that’s brilliant. It’s Schenn’s fault for playing the puck and trying to make a play. Let’s just stop trying to play when you think someone is going to hit you illegally. Do you have any other great advice? Maybe stop at green lights just in case someone is going to drive through a red light and t-bone you? How about not going into a bank in case someone happens to come in and rob it?

      • kcbruinsfan - Dec 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM

        I wouldn’t say it’s Schenn’s fault for playing the puck and trying to make a play, but I would say it is his fault for placing himself in an extremely vulnerable position that made the resulting contact much more dangerous and damaging to himself. The post above is correct that it was clearly charging. Ovi claiming there should have been no penalty is definitely over the top, but the argument being made here is that the dangerous play and resulting injury is more the responsibility of Schenn for putting himself in a vulnerable position. If Schenn doesn’t turn away, this is a 2 minute charging call and we all move on without comment.

  6. storminator16 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    I don’t know what to say. Listening to Adam Oates comments and reading George McPhee’s comments….wow. You want to know why players are still doing the crap that they do? Well, there you go. A GM and a coach who thinks everything was fine and dandy.

    • storminator16 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:11 AM

      Forgot to say: I 100% disagree with both men’s assessment.

  7. disp350 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:13 AM

    Yeah, it was a great hit. Except that the asshole skated at full speed from center ice to hit a guy into the boards. Betcha they would be singing a different tune if it was Ovie who got nailed on the hit.

    • riggorules - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      Guys try to hit Ovi hard every game, he just sees it coming and stands up to it, or moves.

    • jpelle82 - Dec 18, 2013 at 2:08 PM

      if it was ovechkin then the hitter wouldve bounced off or injured himself….dont you know this by now….the guy is a Russian T-90 on skates, equipped with a 125 mm cannon.

  8. whiskytango333 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    I can’t see any intent but to injure in that hit. He came full on at Schenn, knowing more than likely he was going to send him into the boards. There is one thing to light a guy up in open ice, but the rules change when around the boards.

  9. phillyphanatic77 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    What an idiotic response. Even Craig Berube, a master goon in his day, said it was completely stupid when Rinaldo went after Roussel in the Dallas game. And Ovi’s response is probably the worst. Schenn doesn’t know how to take a hit? I wonder how the great 8 would feel if a guy the size of Lucic targeted him and skated full speed from about the blueline just to lay him out. Wilson had no intention, whatsoever, of going after the puck. Not to mention Wilson and Schenn have a history. How exactly was Schenn supposed to take this charge, in a vulnerable area on the ice? He turns to try and avoid him and gets launched headfirst.

    Wilson should get two games and the Caps franchise should be fined for supporting a clear as day dangerous charge. The only way these types of plays will be taken out of the game is if the coach’s and GMs start being punished as well.

  10. vbcaps - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:25 AM

    It was a clean hit that turned into a dirty play with Wilson traveling at his high rate of speed to make the check. Def charging.

  11. eagles512 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:39 AM

    2 games max. But can you imagine Oates’ reaction if it was one of his players? Hypocrite

  12. hockeydon10 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

    Looks like it would have been charging even if Schenn didn’t turn at the last moment and get drilled face-first into the boards. Wilson was really coming it with a lot of speed from quite a ways out. He may have been looking to smash someone without being especially dirty, but flying in with that much speed means he can’t react or adjust to make it a non-dirty hit.

  13. ziplock10 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

    It’s about a Flyer playing against the Caps and he stands stationary behind his own net and gets kaabonged…….

    Not smart…. Use the net to defend yourself…..

    Come on! Schenn should’ve known better.

    OMG Did a Flyer fan just say dirty shot???

  14. ziplock10 - Dec 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM

    This league is turning into the NFL! If a player is injured, suspend!!!

    If hes is not but the intent was to injure??? AWWWWW! No harm! No foul!!

    This lawsuit league called the NFL is coming soon to your ice rink! ;)

  15. cspsrbums - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    Right Philly fans what if the shoe was on the other foot. You guy are so foolish you whine about a hit that your teams nickname derives from Broadstreet Bullies Flyers have been throwing hits like that for years they finally get one back and look at you. Did you cry foul when Emory skated the length of the ice had time to think about his actions and start rabbit punching a non combatant goalie in the back of the head, while on the ground with his pads on. Philly fans laughed and said it was great. Every player had their warning the last two games that a hit was coming Schenn just forgot. Oh don’t use the excuse it could injure paralyze him. you don’t think the punches to the head can injure him. So ask every fan out there who is the dirtiest team out there and guess what my bet is on the Broadstreetbullies. Look at your own organization before calling out others.

    • philafly - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:18 PM

      You couldn’t be more wrong. After the Emery fight, sports radio in Philly was packed with callers saying that Emery’s move was bush league. But don’t let the facts get in the way of your argument.

    • blackandorangeforlife - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:54 PM

      You can find my comments all over this site where i thought Emery should have received 5-10 games…..It doesn’t matter who the team or players are a dangerous play is a dangerous play!

  16. sjsharks66 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:17 AM

    Like I said yesterday, the hit without the charge would have been OK. He sprinted towards Schenn and that is against the rules..

  17. cspsrbums - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:20 AM

    He sprinted towards the battle in the boards then coasted then Schenn came out with the puck and he took two strides an hit him

    • somekat - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:51 AM

      which is the definition of a charge

  18. 19to77 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    Yeah, and if it had been Schenn pulling the same hit on Wilson (or literally any of their players), you’d hear McPhee and Oates and the Caps players squealing and crying like shameless hypocrites. What a pathetic statement by a dishonest and gutless organization. It’s one thing to defend your player. It’s another to blatantly lie.

  19. joey4id - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:34 AM

    Sounds like GMGM and Oates are already trying to make a case to defend their player. Their reaction is normal in the circumstances, and for sure if a Flyers’ player would have hit a Caps’ player the same way they would be up in arms. C’est la vie!

  20. narfmoo12 - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:38 AM

    So Adam Oates has a problem with Hertl’s ridiculously awesome goal and basically said his players would kick Hertl’s ass if he wasn’t benched for the rest of the game, but this hit was totally clean??

    Here’s the quote:

    Oates, who said he was “upset” by the goal, said Sharks head coach Todd McLellan was smart to bench Hertl for the final 7:55 of the game, suggesting the 20-year-old rookie might’ve been in line for retribution. “I’m glad the coach did that because this league, it will bite you if you’re not sharp. Don’t disrespect the league. I’m sure it was a rookie mistake,”

    • 19to77 - Dec 18, 2013 at 1:10 PM

      I respected Oates as a player. As a coach, he makes more and more of an ass of himself every time he opens his mouth. The guy’s a whining hypocrite.

  21. cspsrbums - Dec 18, 2013 at 11:39 AM

    I agree it was dangerous only because where it was on the ice. If you watch he was heading to the battle on the boards he started to coast into the scrum. You can see he turned right took two strides and bit him. You can tell Schenn was not targeted he was the unlucky win to come out wth the puck. Is he responsible for the hit an outcome most of it was it dirty by no means

    • philafly - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      This is borderline incoherent.

    • philafly - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:22 PM

      Leave the commenting to those who have successfully completed 5th grade English.

      • jpelle82 - Dec 18, 2013 at 3:02 PM

        he lost me when he said he bit him.

      • philafly - Dec 18, 2013 at 3:20 PM

        “You can tell Schenn was not targeted he was the unlucky win to come out wth the puck. Is he responsible for the hit an outcome most of it was it dirty by no mean”

        I have read this sentence approximately 10 times. I have yet to come close to figuring out what is being said.

  22. kfraser91 - Dec 18, 2013 at 12:47 PM

    Definitely a charging penalty but thats it. The boarding part occurred because Shenn tried to change direction at the last second instead of initiating contact and taking some of the force out of the hit. its unfortunate the way he went into the boards but i feel like people throw out the “intent to injure” way too much. Big hits happen in hockey and not all of them are dirty or have malicious intent and people have to realize its a tough sport and every once in a while someone will get hurt. Its the intentional head shots and clear boarding penalties (ex – Phaneuf on Miller. idk how he can say that was an accident and doesnt think he should have been suspended) need to be out of the game and supplemental discipline should be dished out but i think in this case, the 5min penalty and game misconduct that was the correct call. no need for a suspension….but who knows with Shanny out there seemingly pulling explanations/suspensions out of thin air

  23. micasa81 - Dec 18, 2013 at 2:54 PM

    How friggin’ horrible is it to watch a player in that condition after a hit? Reminds me of Toews after the Mitchell hit a few years ago:

    Clean hit, dirty hit, avoidable, unavoidable – you just never want to see a player get his bell rung that badly.

  24. sporkov - Dec 18, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    Wilson skated in directly from the center red line and continued to accelerate. That is one of the dirtiest and most dangerous hits this year and we have seen enough already to fill a whole season. Not 100% sure but I bet if there is a wide enough shot that you will see Wilson come off of the bench and head straight into this hit.

  25. footballchamp - Dec 18, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    I thought that hit looked a bit much. Was it really necessary? I’m also curious how Flyers fans feel about this hit vs. Randy Jones’ on Boston’s Bergeron.

    When I watched hockey in the late 80′s and early 90′s, you just never saw the sheer amount of concussion hits like we do today. I’m all for a physical game, I just want it to be with star players, not minor leaguers since all the stars are out with concussions!

  26. wicky888 - Dec 18, 2013 at 4:43 PM

    Charging at most, no suspension. If Schenn didn’t turn we wouldn’t even be talking about it. By no means dirty
    -Flyers fan

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