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Snider hints at change in wake of Philly’s blown leads

Dec 16, 2013, 6:42 PM EDT

Ed Snider AP

On Monday, Flyers owner Ed Snider talked about his team’s recent struggles — they’ve lost five of seven — and not-so-subtly suggested that changes could be coming.

“I think we have to take a long hard look at where we are and where we are going,” Snider said, as per CSN Philly. “We’re always doing that and we will continue doing it. Whatever we can do to help the team get over the hump, we will do.

“Obviously, we’re not happy with giving up third-period leads.”

The Flyers have already gone the fired coach route — Peter Laviolette was replaced by Craig Berube just three games into the season — so logic would suggest the next course of action would be a trade.

But that won’t be easy.

Philly is pressed right up against the cap ceiling, with Chris Pronger‘s LTIR relief the only thing keeping it under. It’s also unclear exactly what facet the Flyers would seek to improve through a deal, as everybody is struggling right now — and that includes goalie Steve Mason, who’s arguably been the team’s MVP this year.

Mason has allowed four goals three times already in December and looked shaky in a 5-4 shootout loss to Washington on Sunday, most notably on Dmitry Orlov‘s speculative, long-range shot late in the third period.

Snider was insistent the club is ready to fix whatever problems need fixing.

“This is something that can be corrected and that is something we are going to do.” he said. “However we have to do it.”

  1. PhillySN - Dec 16, 2013 at 6:50 PM


  2. icelovinbrotha215 - Dec 16, 2013 at 6:59 PM

    Does that mean that Mr. Snider will step down? Because unless that happens, the Flyers can’t be taken serious. Firing Homer is a start, but what makes you think that someone like him won’t replace him? It’s start with the owner.

  3. canucks30 - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    Knowing Snider he’ll fire Holmgren and re-hire Bobby Clarke

    • jimw81 - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:38 PM

      hextall is line for the job

  4. flash8910 - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    Time for a new coach. Someone who is even more in tune with the Flyers culture.

    • kellyb9 - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:29 AM

      From a Flyers fan – No… Just no. That’s a terrible idea. As an owner, Snider should look at what successful teams are doing and cherry-pick their staff (Chicago, Boston, LA, and yes… ugh… Pittsburgh). He did that with the Kings and Hextall. My only concern is that we’re getting another guy who has a last name fans might know for the sake of generating press. I’d rather get a proven commodity.

      Oh yeah, and above all else – Snider should hire a top tier GM and stay the hell out of the way.

  5. kingsfan93 - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:44 PM

    I heard when watching a Philly’s game pretty recently that, Ed Snider and Holmgren like to visit the players dressing room after every game. So if that is the case, Why don’t they just take a step back or two back and let the coaching staff/players do what they need to.

    • anthj99 - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:55 PM


  6. blackandorangeforlife - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:53 PM

    Scare tactic to get at the players!

  7. stcrowe - Dec 16, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    What happened to “That’s our culture!” Ed?

    • flyerspsu - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:35 PM

      the culture is tough physical hockey with lots of goals, thats not case, but we are 1st in PIM!

  8. President Charles Logan - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Oh thats right I forgot, Snider and Homer lace up the skates and are in the lineup every night !

  9. prov1x - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:17 PM

    And some Flyers fans think Weber wishes he was there? What a clown show!

    • flyerspsu - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:40 PM

      You do realize he signed the offer sheet to come here, Nashville just matched it

      The Flyers are a desirable organization to play for, the team is struggling which would make every team less inviting, but all things considered its good organization to play for, better than most, look at Lecavalier who chose the Flyers out of 20 teams interested in him

  10. crazemastercraze - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:20 PM

    Another rich guy with all the answers….

  11. joey4id - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    As much as I would like to see this team perform better, I don’t believe a trade is going to bring them closer to the playoffs. To get quality you need to give up quality. They need to add speed and mobility on the blue line, and more depth up front. Teams that have those players won’t give them up for cheap. Best to be patient and home grow the talent via draft and player development. You can add a player by trade, but that’s only a small piece of the bigger building process.

    • flyerspsu - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:49 PM

      there are tons of holes on the team, the entire defense is disposable, not a single dman is 1st pairing material now that Timonen has gotten older, so thats going to take a lot of things to repair

      however, they do have some pieces they could move, schenn and couturier are big ones, schenn is the 2nd leading scorer and couturier has been playing great lately and both have good value

      id be more inclined to move schenn between the two, id throw in Luke schenn too while hes still considered young enough to have potential

      scott laughton is another piece the Flyers could move, hes their top prospect who is leading the OHL in scoring right now

      id also do my best to try to get rid of some guys like Hartnell, the Flyers current top 9 was supposed to be the core for the future, its not working and they overrated a lot of their players, they need to admit they made those mistakes like the Red Sox did last season and rebuild parts of the core

      so yeah its gonna take a lot for the Flyers to improve significantly and have any shot at a Cup

    • brandonphilly - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:30 PM

      We should trade Scheme and Simmonds for that Richards guy in LA

      • brandonphilly - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:30 PM


      • joey4id - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:41 PM

        The AP reported the following after the Flyers traded Carter, Richards, and signed Bryzgalov in 2011;

        Flyers chairman, and founder, Ed Snider told The Associated Press the team is closer to winning a Stanley Cup now, rather than before the shakeup.

        “Yes, I do,” he said. “I like our goaltending, I like our defence, I like our forwards. We moved things around a little bit. I really think we’re stronger.”

      • flyerspsu - Dec 17, 2013 at 3:26 PM

        id be willing to trade both, both have high value, Schenn hasnt developed nearly as much as we expected to up to this point and Simmonds is a young gritty 20-25 goal guy with intangibles but quite frankly isnt that good of an all around hockey player and has a higher value on the trade market than he probably deserves

  12. statsdolie - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:23 PM

    It’s funny how as a Philly fan we ridicule owners like Dan synder and Jerry Jones, but no one goes after the NHL version Ed Snider

    • kellyb9 - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:32 AM

      Jerry Jones is a lot worse than Ed Snider – at least Ed has enough sense to appoint a GM. But overall, I agree. He needs to sit up in his owners box and stop meddling.

  13. macgrubie - Dec 16, 2013 at 8:31 PM

    This is the stuff that terrifies me as a Flyers fan. Snider snap decisions with long term consequences. Just take the time to do it the right way. ….always thinks he’s one or two moves away from winning a cup.

  14. jimw81 - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    my question is why did he bring this up at the flyers christmas party?

  15. drone501 - Dec 16, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    as a life long pens fan but i really dont enjoy seeing this happening to the flyer organization. would like to see them get on top of their game again. im not sure what the problem is. seems to me that maybe holmgren is the problem, starting with the bryz signing. who knows. maybe bring up some of their top minor leaguers. who knows. i know the pens hit gold with malkin and crosby but shere made a helluva lot of good trades. anyway, hang in their flyer fans.

    • dannyboy1313 - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:29 AM

      Of course, your lot got Crosby and milking by intentionally losing for years and years.

  16. muckleflugga - Dec 17, 2013 at 12:11 AM


    nice post, i enjoyed the read and the information…


    • flyerspsu - Dec 17, 2013 at 3:11 PM

      i cant tell if you are being sarcastic, if not thanks, if so i was on aderrall at the time studying for the finals and so just i kind of went in on the comment not even realizing how long it was

  17. apittsburgher - Dec 17, 2013 at 6:11 AM

    How can this be? Last year when Sid was hurt the news outta Philly was that they had the “best player in the world” wearing the “C”, Jirwhoo? And with the other gingers they were, well, awesome. Whhaathaappened?

    • dannyboy1313 - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:30 AM

      The concrete skate salesman came by and sold them his goods.

  18. thesublimeylimey - Dec 17, 2013 at 7:59 AM

    Paul Holmgren has got to go. The whole fiasco with Bryz and his epic salary buy out should have been the nail in the coffin.

    Philly have a some solid players with Giroux, Simmonds, Couterier, and Hartnell, but they need more depth.

  19. ju8686 - Dec 17, 2013 at 8:51 AM

    “I think we have to take a long hard look at where we are and where we are going,” Snider said, as per CSN Philly. “We’re always doing that and we will continue doing it. Whatever we can do to help the team get over the hump, we will do.”


    “We’re going to see which young skilled (fast) player(s) we can trade for a past his prime gritty power forward or big lumbering defenseman that hits a lot, but can’t do much else.”

    I’ve watched this owner for too long to expect it to end well … sad part is there are still too many Flyers fans that thing tough guys still win cups.

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