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Flyers continue surge, Isles keep sliding

Nov 23, 2013, 10:11 PM EDT

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At one point, the Philadelphia Flyers were 1-7-0 this season. Thanks to a hot run that continued with Saturday’s 5-2 win against the New York Islanders, the Flyers are at .500 (10-10-2).

This represents the Flyers’ third win in a row. They’ve won six of their last seven, going 6-0-1 in that span. Claude Giroux (one goal, one assist) keeps turning things around while Steve Mason (36 out of 38 saves) maintains his stunning turnaround in Philly’s net.

It seems like the Islanders are taking the opposite trajectory. They’ve lost their third game in a row and only have two wins in their last 10 games (2-8-0). Kevin Poulin‘s struggles continue – he took the loss after allowing three goals on 16 shots before being pulled in favor of Anders Nilsson, while John Tavares must feel lonely in his excellence (27 points in 24 games this season).

The Flyers stabilized things after making big changes and experiencing dramatic struggles. Are the Islanders going to remain comfortable staying the course in such tough times?

  1. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:16 PM

    Another win vs a bad team…how ironic

    • deathbat20 - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM

      Oh look another Penguins troll on a Flyers article…how ironic

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:34 PM

      First dang comment from…well, a douchbag. Keep hating, the Flyers will keep winning. How’d did Cindy and the girls do tonight against an awesome team?

      • drone501 - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:40 PM

        if you were the flyer gm and was offered sid crosby for giroux and or hartnell, would you make the deal? yeah, thats what i thought.

    • macjacmccoy - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

      The Penguins have wins vs the same teams fool.

      • hockeyfan28 - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:26 PM

        The Pens you mean one of the bad teams the flyers beat last wed?

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:15 AM

      Sooo..we beat the pens.. yiu saying you guys were easy snd a bad team?

      Guess so..the Flyers did..

      • drone501 - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:35 PM

        pen fans should worry when beaten by a team as bad as the flyers.

    • laxman1944 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:22 AM


    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Nov 24, 2013 at 11:47 AM

      Another Flyers article 64 comments……Penguins artilce 6 comments…HOW IRONIC

  2. claudegirwho - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Wait till they play a real team. I guess the silver lining for philthy fans is they’re winning the games they should

    • phillyphanatic77 - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:49 PM

      Why would we need a silver lining idiot? We’ve gone from 1-7, unable to score a goal, to
      .500 with dominant Goaltending, solid team defense, and one of the deepest top-9s in the NHL. And I guess the Pens aren’t a real team.

      • macjacmccoy - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:19 PM

        Yea I agree the Flyers havent beat a real team yet. To be a real team you need more than 2 offensive and 1 defensive line. Something no Yinzers can claim to have.

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:14 AM

        Deepest top 9? Are you kidding????

      • phillyphanatic77 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        In no way, whatsoever, am I kidding mp1131211. The Flyers top-3 lines are gritty, skilled, and rolling right now. Giroux, Voracek, Hartnell, Simmonds, Schenn, Lecavalier, Couturier, Read, and Downie… that is called DEPTH. Very few teams can match that level of talent… Chicago? St. Louis? A few others perhaps. And that’s without mentioning our 4th line, where Adam Hall has been winning almost 90% of faceoffs in the past week+ and Rinaldo, who is the ultimate agitator, can now kill.penalties too (Rosehill, however, is simply a goon). The Flyers forwards are finally rolling, showing their true potential, and you can all see the results.

        Throw a little defensive responsibility into the mix (thanks Chief), add a goalie who’s almost unbeatable right now, and this club is starting to look dangerous.

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        Haha… Ok. I guess you forgot how that “deep” 9 screwed the pooch last year. It’s largely the same group. And they’ve already dug themselves a hole they might not recover from this year. Depth can’t be assessed by two weeks of good play. Get real.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        Dude are you kidding me?! “Largely the same group”? Except for Vinny Lecavalier, a former 50-goal scorer replacing a completely unproductive Danny Briere as the 2nd line center, and Steve Downie, who’s been excellent this season. And… “Already dug themselves a hole they might not recover from”?! They started out 1-7! They’re now at .500 and 6-0-1 in their last 7. They’ve outscored those opponents 27-11 and Steve Mason has a .933sv%/2.11GAA. Open your eyes and use your brain.

    • macjacmccoy - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      Also how pathetic do you have to be to thumbs up your own post.

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:18 AM

      Winning games=making points=making finals
      And yes.we played the Pens and to clarify who arwal team is?
      Maybe the Canadians are a real team, eh?

      Ard to talk shet whe you didnt win

  3. mattyo99 - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    They beat pittsburgh in there barn, which means the penguins are a bad team??? Stfu

  4. President Charles Logan - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    to their credit they are beating the teams they need to beat at least.

  5. crazemastercraze - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:31 PM

    Just hand them the cup already…..

    • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:15 AM


  6. phillyphanatic77 - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:34 PM

    I really hope all PHT readers look at this comment section so they can fully grasp just how petty, idiotic, and uninformed Pens fans are. The Pens were one of the teams we’ve beat! The Isles almost knocked the Pens out of the playoffs last season. And were picked by many as a playoff team. The Sens were everybody’s niche Cup pick… and we dominated them twice. We’re 8 points behind the Pens and you’ve played two more games than us. I’d be worried if I were you. We have a stud goalie, a serviceable D, and our top-9 forwards are dominating right now. So keep saying whatever you want that’ll make you feel better but the Flyers are back and we’re Pittsburgh’s cryptonite.

    And just to humor your theories about the competition… the good teams are supposed to beat the bad ones.

    • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:18 AM

      No one gives two sh**** about the pens fans. I clicked this article because of the ridiculous title still claiming the flyers are “surging.” Truth is the flyers are involved in one of THE DUMBEST rivalries to ever be had in the NHL. Give it up already

      • thephillyfanclub - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:46 AM

        yeah i know tell me about it, theres nothing worse than watching those dumb penguins play the even dumber flyers, we mine as well call sidney and claude, harry and lloyd, its almost as dumb as watching a canadiens bruins game and all of those dumbasses, what a bunch of dumb rivalries we have in the nhl, how ridiculous is it for all those dummies to think that the flyers are surging when they are 6-0-1 in there last 7, that is so, i dont know i guess im at a loss for words, i guess DUMB

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 3:25 PM

        Not sure where you were going with that… Seemed, kind of… dumb? Anyway I didn’t say anything about other nhl rivalries being dumb. Its the philly vs pitt one that is lame. On one side, you have a franchise who can’t get anything going in almost 40 years and their fans who are largely blood thirsty pugilists. On the other side you have an over rated franchise that has one super star and a smatter of other bits and pieces of talent and their arrogant and conceded fans who seem to dedicate their whole lives to climbing on top of the pile by pulling down their neighbors in Philly.

        It shows the sad condition of your state I guess.

  7. broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    In other news, Cindy Crysby threw another hissy fit against the Canadiens tonight. It took liberal applications of vagesil and a large pacifier to calm her down. Meanwhile the Flyers continue to win games.

    • claudegirwho - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:51 PM

      So if a girl is dominating the NHL what does that’ make your captain? He needed reinforcment from your ex captain to say it’s ok little baby you can do good in the NHL. Just because your getting crushed by everyone it’s ok. Believe me they know they made a huge mistake making him captain he can’t handle it.

      • claudegirwho - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

        Hey let me know when your captain does ANYTHING in the NHL cause he hasn’t done jack yet. Anyone can get a huge contract from philthy

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        I have no idea what you just said or even what point your trying to make. You sir, are a retard. Go back to eating your crayons. We are winning and you can’t find any consistency.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        Shouldn’t you ladies be commenting on how the hapless Hens lost tonight to the mighty mighyt le habitants? Instead of worrying about our crappy hockey team and hapless ginger captain?

      • claudegirwho - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:22 PM

        Cheesesteak cheesesteak cheesesteak cheesesteak. There am I speaking your language now moron?

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:30 PM

        No, you’re not speaking my language. You’re only making yourself look like a bigger pump a$$ than we already know you are. Go back to your Crosby blow up doll fanboy.

      • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:22 AM

        Dude.your an idiot..shut your legs so the stream of dumbass can stop…please

      • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:02 AM

        Mmmm. Cheesesteak. And Mmmmm crab fries!

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 2:19 AM

        Crosby is far from dominating the NHL. Wake up

      • thephillyfanclub - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:53 AM

        that cheesesteak bit is by far one of the best insults I’ve ever heard, i mean, how incredibly original, you had to have googled that one, i think i speak for everyone on this here talk forum, we are all belly up laughing about how comical that was, and shucks just when i thought all of the incredibly creative screennames have been taken, he comes out with a real doozy, claudegirlwho, my god how did you think of that, it sounds so much like claude giroiux, Fascinating.

      • laxman1944 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        Why such a hard-on for the Philly captain????

        Get a life……sheesh

  8. jhaegs - Nov 23, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    As I said before, the upcoming games against TB, CHI, and DET will tell us where the Flyers stand. Of they beat the Panthers, I hope PHT doesn’t call it a statement game…

  9. antmel30 - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    I love the pens fans and the dumb comments they make. Yea flyers did beat up on bad team and did convincingly. The gm for pens was a little closer only winning 4-3 so I guess wee can say flyers beat them more how does that sound. Pens did awesome in Montreal tonight I guess they can only beat bad teams while getting best by good teams. Look at your own team before you criticize ours. You might want to make sure your team beats a good team after beating bad one before ou make your idiotic comments. Pens fans need to get over themselves. The team is not as good as the fans think. The west is going to be a tough cookie for any east team. I am a flyers fan but I think it’s going to be boston and some team for west in finals. Whatever east team makes it I don’t think east has enough to beat a west team.

  10. hockeyfan28 - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    500 after a 1-7 start a month later nice job best flyers goaltending since like Brian Bouchers rookie year

    • macjacmccoy - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      Yea 9-3-2 anyone still talking that they can’t beat any real teams nonsense doesnt know hockey. This isnt the NFL where you can pad your schedule against bad teams. In the NHL any team can win any night. If you wanna try and forecast how a team will do in the near future, all you can do is look at how they’ve been playing. 9-3-2 says that the Flyers can play with any team in the league.

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 6:02 PM

        Sure, on any one night, anything can happen… but when its over and over, then there is something to it. Plus, just after you finish saying that records don’t matter when the flyers are playing bad teams, you turn around say that the only way you can predict who should win is if you look at their recent record.

        Makes no sense at all.

  11. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Look at all of the butthurt flyer fans on here. Keeping pump your teams tires cause you doing an outstanding job of it! Hats off to you pumpkin fans!

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:52 PM

      We’re not butthurt. We won tonight. How’d y’all do?

      • mcphillthy - Nov 23, 2013 at 11:58 PM

        Ha! Wow the Penguins fans got their panties in a wad tonight, don’t they? They lost. We won….Pittsburgh fans have hit a new low. I’m disappointed in you

        Go flyers!!

    • thephillyfanclub - Nov 24, 2013 at 6:49 AM

      WOW, how pathetic are you pittsburgh jokers, we finally win a few games and you discredit the teams we’ve handled including your own “ELITE” hockey team, at least we here in philly can recognize good hockey and acknowledge the fact that you have a pretty solid squad, but i guess our team actually playing to their abilities is too much for you morons to handle, keep proving how ignorant you are about our sport, hey at least rapelisberger had 4 td’s last week, you guys definitely know your football, bunch of wanna be hockey fans

    • thephillyfanclub - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:01 AM

      by the way, your comment was neither creative nor clever, “Keeping pump your teams tires cause you doing an outstanding job of it! Hats off to you pumpkin fans!” Earth to bylsma, halloween was a month ago, were carving turkeys not pumpkins right now Lenny, glad to see another pitt native brought that razor sharp wit of theres to the comment forum

    • laxman1944 - Nov 24, 2013 at 10:45 AM

      Pumpkins are awesome sir………I take offense to that comment.

  12. jimw81 - Nov 24, 2013 at 12:29 AM

    No dice. I want to see how they play against the elite teams .

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 24, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      Thanks for confirming that the Hens are nowhere near elite.

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:09 AM

      We will roll 3 lines..may win..may not..but wont turtle like the pens in the finals…poor maf-fy

      • jimw81 - Nov 24, 2013 at 4:49 AM

        I’m a huge flyers fan but I’m not drinking kool aid yet. There is still things they need to fix. You got to thank mason for getting this team to .500. We are still in a marathon not a sprint.

  13. MannySilvers - Nov 24, 2013 at 12:33 AM

    Metro is bizarre. Flyers, Rangers, and Devils all start terribly and have all really turned it around the last 10 games or so. As funny as it sounds, 2-6 in the Metro is becoming really tight.

    • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:23 AM

      I was expecting the metro to start off strong… Geez. I got the complete opposite. They sucked! But over the last two weeks all three teams have gotten into the swing and playing more like I expected. It’s going to be a tight division.

  14. luvusa1 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:06 AM

    @claudegirwho: way to show your low I.Q. moron…typical loser Pens fan

  15. flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Congratz Flyers..excellent win and Read is a stud.

    I see the Pens fans had nothig betterto do then console themselves, after a sad loss, the to come here and troll us…as we continue to excel..much to your chagrin..

    But im not standing up for most of the sorry f0ckin Flyers fans they are petty pricks themselves and sh5t on each other when Pens trolls arent flocking…

    Go Flyers!!

    Ps.. flyers fans..I thumbs down my own comment tosave you the degenerate fycks

    • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:27 AM

      I gave it a thumbs up bc we are all degenerates on here. We don’t have anything to do so we come on here and fight over whose team is better. Lol
      I’m watching NHL network now and saw maantra turn that puck over in his own zone. Yikes. That’s some sloppy defense. And flower should have stopped that shot from the blue line. Geez.
      And speaking of defense did anyone see subban own Crosby tonight?! Manhandled, just the way Cindy likes it.

      • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:30 AM

        You sir, are spot on.

    • thephillyfanclub - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:22 AM

      I have literally never been more confused by a comment in my life, pick a side Nader, we don’t really accept guys trashing our own fandom, what were you expecting your revolutionary comment to turn flyers pens rivalry into a nice civil sharks ducks comment board, get a grip man

  16. broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:20 AM

    On a more hockey note, idiotic Pens haters aside. Our third line is on fire. Downie, Couts and Read have combined for 13 pts in 3 games. Looking tough and offensively strong and good to see Giroux get his scoring touch back. They did look a little flat in the third so thats something to work on as season progresses. All three lines contributing hard, solid goaltending and a more confidant defense. I’m liking this team’s effort more and more now that Berube’s system is starting to flourish.

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:29 AM

      Careful with nicknames. Some people get feisty..

      2nd and 3rd lines are rolling..nicely…

      D playin well and Goalies looking good…

      I dont care what happens the rest of the year.we show we can play if we want…even against Cindys crew..

      Now we dont have to read any more about wy did we trade so and so…and fire Holmgren or trade anyone with value..

      • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:40 AM

        Homer is doing fine. I’m glad he didn’t get canned. He does some dumb stuff but he has the balls to do it. Period. And iI t looks like his big balls are paying off right now. I think he is a genious but sometimes….meh… He drinks heavily and rocks out with co… Well you know…lol

    • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:32 AM

      Yeah they are!!! That’s downie for Talbot trade was a great move! He was exactly what that line needed! Homer works his magic again.
      Three lines all getting hot lately. Vinny is a beast, too. I can’t say enough about how much I like vinny in orange and black. Thank you,tampa bay!

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 24, 2013 at 1:41 AM

        Hell, may as well thank Columbus and Chicago for Mason and Emery. They have to be the best tandem in the league right now.

      • broadstreetsbaddest88 - Nov 24, 2013 at 6:10 AM

        Yeah I totally agree. Holmgren has pulled off some great moves. I love how ballsy he can be. That downie trade sparked this team and he’s been racking them points up and helpin make that 3rd line incredible lately. That line has to be one of the best 3rd lines right now. We’re literally getting solid scoring on our 3 lines and from the fourth lately. You can’t ask for more outta them when each line constantly scores each game and we’re having 4-5 goals a game. I can’t say enough about mason. I think he’s completely playin within his realm and can sustain this great play. We keep this up and we got a solid team all around. Berube’s system has been workin wonders. I love how leveled there play is in all aspects of the ice under his. I hope the flyers can keep this up cause this has been some of the most exciting hockey I’ve seen in a long time.

    • mcphillthy - Nov 24, 2013 at 11:45 AM

      Coots! Coots! Read is the man but coots is a stud! Coots plays against the top lines every game and everyone has noticed they haven’t given up any 5on5 goals until last night. Coots shuts them all down. He even made Malkin get so pissed that Malkin got in his face. And now coots is racking up points along with his insane two way game?! Our third line has been the hottest line the past few games. Downie just got here and the chemistry is clicking already.
      It’s just really good to see after our horrid start.

  17. aosplayo - Nov 24, 2013 at 7:18 AM

    How are they not surging? A month ago to the day they were 1-7. Giroux is closing back in to averaging a point a game again, and they finally have goaltending. It’s accurate to say they are surging when they have the best record in the month of November.

    • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 4:32 PM

      Have you looked at other teams’ records? Cause they don’t have the best record in Novemember. They don’t even have the best Last 10 record. Lol… This about completely sums up the Flyers hype right now. Unfounded and ignorant

    • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 4:33 PM

      And the fact that 7 people so far have given you a thumbs up says a lot too

      • laxman1944 - Nov 24, 2013 at 5:51 PM

        Why such a jerk, the team is having a good run……let it go

      • mp1131211 - Nov 24, 2013 at 5:58 PM

        What’s being a jerk about pointing out that he’s misinformed? He is. And, sure, the flyers are doing better, but there is an undeserved hype surrounding these guys. So they’ve reached.500- kind of. If you don’t count losses in OT. Its not exactly “surging” to win a few.

  18. moolium - Nov 24, 2013 at 8:07 AM

    pittsburgh has 9 losses (FLA, EDM, COL, NYI, TOR, NYR, STL, PHL, NJ, MTL)

    the flyers are 6-3 against those teams. so you can stop looking ignorant by constantly talking about the flyers winning weak games when your team is losing these “easy games.”

  19. mclovinhockey - Nov 24, 2013 at 8:49 AM

    Had to stop reading the comments. Both fans sound immature. Pens fans are trying to come up with an excuse, then makes a comment misusing the term irony, and call flyers fans morons…
    Flyers fans bite into the apple left by the trolling pens moronic (not saying all pens fans are morons, just most making negotiable comments here) fans.

    Flyers went 1-7 and now are 6-0-1 in the last 7, 7-1-2 since the brawl people were saying was pointless and would not spark the team.

    Flyers are playing well, could play a bit better (a few little things I noticed, teams can always play better), pens are still doing well. Let’s just say this rivalry is going to heat up and let’s make educated comments from now on… Not act like kids fighting on a playground over whose dad could beat the others in a fight.
    Go flyers, good luck pens.

  20. mclovinhockey - Nov 24, 2013 at 9:03 AM

    Oh, also, at the time the flyers beat the sens 5-0, the sens were the top offensive team in the east, few days later they beat them 5-2 with the sens having the number 1 goalie in the league in net (save%). This post was not about how the flyers are doing great, but more about how some stats do not matter at all. This is the NHL, the oilers recently scored 7 goals against the team with the current goalie of the year starting, and gave up 0 while being the worst defensive team in the league. Never, ever underestimate an opponent in this level, you will get destroyed.

  21. joey4id - Nov 24, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    its great for us to see the flyers turn it around. they have some good talent. still don’t think they will make the playoffs because they’re not strong enough to make for lost ground, their d is too slow. things will only get tougher from here on in.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Nov 24, 2013 at 11:44 PM

      You may have been right if Lavy was still coach, but they now actually play team defense. They no longer leave their D isolated. They send in one forechecker, have another “soft” forechecker, and the third forward up high. The players have bought in and they all get back when the opposing team goes the other way. Under Lavy there were countless odd man breaks, with Berube they’ve been almost eliminated. Not to mention what looks like an elite #1 goalie with a solid #2. And consistent defensive pairings every night… that’s before even mentioning what is becoming a dangerous top-9. this is, at the least, one of the East’s “wildcard” teams. I’d put money on it.

      • joey4id - Nov 25, 2013 at 6:32 AM

        It could very well be the story of the year if they do make the playoffs. It’s tough to chase one team for the final playoff spot let alone have to chase 2 or 3 teams. Not only do you have to win games, but you depend on other teams ahead of you to lose, and with the schedule built for division rivalries many often the 2 teams you are chasing are playing each other. Tough task ahead, but it will be fun watching that’s for sure. Go Flyers.

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