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The Flames’ goaltending is…not good

Nov 18, 2013, 12:36 PM EDT

Calgary head coach Bob Hartley didn’t hold back when it came to assessing a couple of the goals that beat netminder Reto Berra during Saturday’s 4-2 loss to Edmonton.

“We gave them two goals out of three,” Hartley said. “After 40 minutes, I felt that we gave them nothing. We were playing our style. Then, their first goal and third goal, there’s only one word for those two goals – awful.”

The first goal, by Jordan Eberle, was more of a team failure, though Berra looked a little, um, unconventional on it:

Here was the third goal, by Edmonton’s David Perron:

Yet despite what happened Saturday, Hartley will apparently turn to Berra, 26, again tonight when the Flames visit Winnipeg.

Not that the coach is sitting on any great alternatives. Karri Ramo, who returned to the NHL this season after starring in the KHL, is 2-4-1 with a .882 save percentage; journeyman Joey MacDonald is 3-3-1 with a .885 save percentage.

After 20 games, Calgary’s team save percentage sits at .875, the lowest in the league.

Suffice to say, in the wake of Miikka Kiprusoff’s retirement, the future in the Flames’ crease remains very much up in the air. A 22-year-old by the name of Joni Ortio is putting up decent numbers with AHL Abbotsford, but it’s hard to say if he’s got an NHL career ahead of him.

  1. ibieiniid - Nov 18, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    for what I’m assuming is a relatively big-budget hockey news site, it’s unbelievable how infrequently the videos don’t work. videos should be accompanied by the youtube link.

    • ibieiniid - Nov 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM

      excuse me, how infrequently the videos work*.

    • elvispocomo - Nov 18, 2013 at 12:56 PM

      Works fine for me. It might not be the website, just saying…

      • ibieiniid - Nov 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM

        I thought it might be the same, but I’ve watched several other videos on PHT today. Ever notice how the videos are always on different video players (I guess depending on where they came from)? Certain ones work on the android app, certain ones work on my work comp, certain ones work on my home comp, but I have issues on each one of those from time to time.

  2. mshantz22 - Nov 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    I think Feaster should take a quick peek at the article below this one about LaBarbera being on waivers.

    • elvispocomo - Nov 18, 2013 at 1:57 PM

      They’re looking for a bonafide starter, not another underperforming backup.

  3. muckleflugga - Nov 18, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    remember the good old days when goalies had to be athletic; able to stand up and go down and stand up in one fluid move, flash the leather, take the contact and give it back…actually be into the game on the same level as were attacking forwards, hunting the puck with zeal

    take away brodeur, quick, lundqvist, backstrom and one or two others, goalies these days are giraffe-like geeks draped with over-sized gear as their principal qualification…

    clumsy, sprawling, gutless and quick to flop on any hint of contact, very few can actually play goal…if the puck doesn’t hit them it’s in

    i remember bower, cheevers, esposito, hall, parent, plante, vachon and worsley…all acrobatic magicians wearing minimal equipment and virtually unbeatable when they were feeling right, this with the likes of howe, the hulls, lemaire and mahovlich cutting loose with their cannons and lasers

    then there was the incredible roger crozier, the wizard, the best of the best

    of course that was back when goalies played goal, rather than being racks for leather and plastic, dropped into pre-ordained positions and angles…

    • ibieiniid - Nov 18, 2013 at 2:25 PM

      I defy you to show me a time where the entire league was filled with goalies of “brodeur, quick, lundqvist, backstrom [wait…. backstrom!?] and one or two others'” caliber. you just admitted there being 1/6 of the starting goalies in the league meeting your description of great goalies, while naming another list of goalies where only like 3 or maybe 4 of them were at their peak at the same time…..

      I’m with you on the pads, but how can you say those old timers are better than goalies these days. apples and oranges, sir.

  4. muckleflugga - Nov 18, 2013 at 3:53 PM


    you’ve stated you’re twenty five and you’re an engineer

    with youth you’re likely as adept as the next person at prowling the internet for hockey data sites and wiki answers

    as an engineer, you should be possessed of requisite analytical skills

    have at it my learned friend

    • thesportsjudge - Nov 18, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      Haven’t figured out the “reply” button? Don’t give the mobile phone excuse either.

  5. muckleflugga - Nov 18, 2013 at 3:56 PM


    back in the olden days, rah rah rumble seats and running boards, cowboys and injuns and all that…

    the nhl had only six teams

    • ibieiniid - Nov 18, 2013 at 4:13 PM

      lol come on man…. approx. half the guys you mentioned played in the 70s. I just don’t think you can name 5 CURRENT goalies that you think are the caliber you watched as a youngun and still assert that they were better back in the day.

  6. sportspitz - Nov 18, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    Flames weren’t supposed to be good, and they’re not good. Shocker. It’s the first year of rebuild that should have started years ago. Lose, stockpile high picks and continue the rebuild. Don’t worry that the goalies stink.

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