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Discuss: Flyers defeat Penguins on NHL on NBCSN Rivalry Night

Nov 13, 2013, 10:52 PM EDT

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Good goaltending, solid defensive play and timely goal scoring – winning ingredients for the Philadelphia Flyers.

Matched up against their bitter rivals, the Pittsburgh Penguins, the Flyers came away with a 2-1 victory to take Rivalry Night on NHL on NBCSN.

Let’s discuss:

  • Could the once lowly Philadelphia Flyers be gaining momentum in the Eastern Conference? That’s three straight victories. Better yet? They’ve allowed a combined three goals in their last three games.
  • Ray Emery, who was at the center of controversy for a goalie fight he instigated on Nov. 1, was sensational for the Flyers on Wednesday. He made 30 saves for the win.
  • Brayden Schenn scored twice for Philadelphia. His second of the night counted as the game-winner. Nothing pretty about it. Standing in front of the net, controlled the puck up after it hit the post and he buries it into the open net.
  • This passing play from Evgeni Malkin and finished off by Sidney Crosby was just nice. Worth another look.
  • The Penguins have been held to one goal in each of their last three games. It’s no surprise that they have lost three straight, as well.

  1. blackandorangeforlife - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Nothing to discuss…..Great win and bad loss 6-4 vs 4-6 in last 10!….Way to go Flyers!

    • hockey412 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:01 AM

      There really ISN’T much to discuss, decent game, Flyers wanted it more and looked faster/hungrier most of the game. Good game.

      Watching Malkin and Couturier’s little spats is becoming the highlight of my day everytime they play.

      No more Pens/Flyers until 3/15 and 3/16….see you next year….

  2. devilsarethebest - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Rangers suck! Flyers swallow! #1975 #1994

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:01 PM

      What, are you channeling your inner Pens fan?

      • barkar942 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:17 PM

        It is 95cups just using another screen name to keep getting his pop rocks off over the Devils beating the Rangers last night. He had to mention the Flyers so he could troll on this thread.

      • devilsarethebest - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:22 PM

        Never associate me with that guy. He’s not a real fan. He cheers when we win but if we ever lose he goes all nuts to fire Lou and DeBoer and how much WE suck. Me on the other hand, win or lose, rangers still suck. Clearly you should read more PHT to see that we argue all the time.

  3. pens87 - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:57 PM


    • pens87 - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:59 PM

      *Hats off to the Flyers D and Emery for playing very well tonight. Good, hard fought rivalry game. Pens in a funk, hope they snap out of it soon! And for goodness sake, hit the cage pens…

      • flyersfan85 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM

        Im sorry..and your who?? A pens fan who isnt caling foul…seriously.. dont know…im scared..

        Good game..well played..horribly officiated..but thats the new norm.

      • hockey412 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:51 AM

        It’s going to be a rough November if they don’t snap out of it…lots of games coming up the next two weeks.

    • c9castine - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:26 AM

      pens are missing nets, missing passes…last 5 games they just can’t seem to get any flow to their game. a lot of offsides and icings too…pretty frustrating to watch. they aren’t really playing so bad but like i said, just like watching rough seas right now.

      flyers played a pretty ordinary game. this team is seriously not very good. they are gonna flirt with the playoffs but i can’t see much more than that. they played a sound defensive game for sure, capitalized on their chances. they were able to get the pens on the penalty kill for too much time which led to their game winning goal. pens failed to capitalize on the power play, considering they had a few chances thanks to typically stupid flyers penalties.

      congrats on the win. you got a mile to go.

      • c9castine - Nov 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

        apparently i didn’t massage flyers fans egos enough with my post. I’m sorry guys. your getting closer to .500. your team is so good! you guys demolished the Pens last night for sure. just kept sending wave after wave in the first period (outshot 16-8 by pens). the second period was brutal thats when we really saw your best. (actually, it is) you actually carried played for s decent amount of the period and were able to get 10 pucks on net. 3rd period i can’t even pretend you did something good. 3 shots on net you pretty much turtled.

        like i said, played fairly soundly defensively and capitalized on chances. pretty ordinary hockey team though. not much to get excited about there.

      • mcphillthy - Nov 14, 2013 at 4:43 PM

        Wow this chump is really butt hurt. A week ago he was saying we were the worst team in the league. Last night we beat his team. And apparently we didn’t play good hockey and Pittsburgh STILL lost. Did I understand all of that correctly?
        I bet that was hard for Pitt fans to swallow (insert bad joke)…After all the trash talk they lost to the Philadelphia Flyers. Ouch.
        No need to keep massaging… The happy ending is already all over your face

  4. girouxed - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Nail biter.

  5. hazlydose - Nov 13, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Penguins looked awful tonight. No work, no grit, no effort. Absolutely no desire to play along the boards or to win puck battles. Just zone entry followed by shot into Emery’s glove, faceoff, repeat.

    That said, congratulations Flyers on your victory. Both teams scored on the PP and the difference was an effort goal that was set up by Simmonds on the forecheck. It was nice to see what a forecheck actually looks like for once.

  6. hockeyfan28 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    The hand is starting to creep out of the grave….For as bad as they’ve played it’s still only nov 13th sooner or later the on the paper talent was going to click…get to 500 by the end of the month it’s doable

  7. ibieiniid - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    I’ll just say, I enjoyed that. like a lot.

    • philafly - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:11 PM


    • curioustraveler13 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      Congrats man. Flyers were defiantly the better team last night. Ill be honest with Philly playing in Ottawa the night before i didn’t expect i would see that result. Hats off to you guys though. 2 big wins a row. Flyers are back.

      • ibieiniid - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:20 PM

        trust me, I didn’t expect that either. I already had it loaded up in my excuse hopper for if we lost that game.

      • curioustraveler13 - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        haha i can’t off any excuses for the pens. They flat out stunk. Between the board battles and the face-offs, it was like they forgot the fundamentals.Well deserved win for you guys. Now i have to wait till march for revenge. Blah,

    • cofran2004 - Nov 14, 2013 at 10:58 AM

      It’s nice to punch the pens in the mouth every once in a while, isn’t it?

      • ibieiniid - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        yes indeedy

    • mcphillthy - Nov 14, 2013 at 4:47 PM

      It was much needed

  8. antmel30 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    As a flyers fan I hate Crosby but he is ridiculously skilled. What impresses me most is his skating he is so strong on his skates. If he didn’t play for pitt I might like him. Great win flyers keep rolling pens in a funk. I just want to know what bridge is Whammy jumping off. 4-1-1 since the fight gm. Emery has one goal allowed since that gm maybe it is a turn around. Well whammy we are enjoying our season also enjoying malkin trying to compete with giroux for 16 straight with no goal. According to pens fans great players don’t go on scoring droughts. Whammy enjoy your loosing streak. You have a lay up next gm against Nashville if you loose that one time to panic. But to all other pens fans great gm a lot of missed chances and high shots on open nets. Pens could have easily scored but missed net hopefully hockey gods are on our side for a little bit. Also Oscar to giroux for creating go ahead pp goal.

    • whammy71 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM

      I don’t panic until the post-season. And even then…it’s not that big of deal….it’s just hockey.

    • ibieiniid - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      good analysis. lol at whammy’s quick switch to somebody worth respecting. enjoy our what season, whammy?


      • whammy71 - Nov 14, 2013 at 1:11 PM

        Pens will be in the playoffs – Philly won’t.

        Enjoy your 2nd crappy season in a row!

      • ibieiniid - Nov 14, 2013 at 2:15 PM

        don’t look now, but the Flyers are only 7 points behind the Pens…. and looking like a better team at the moment. They will both make playoffs.

  9. joey4id - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    “solid defensive play” is what we didn’t see on a constant basis. Crosby blew by Coburn on the first shift of the game and later a much slower skater, Neal blew by Coburn as well. He and Grossman are 2 of the slowest d men of the league that play regular shifts. It was Emery’s game no doubt. Flyers had 3 shots on net in the third, which is pathetic. But for the Flyers it’s another win they can build on. Is Hartnell hurt? He was completely irrelevant tonight.

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:19 PM

      Speaking of hurt…hows those feelings champ?

      Little down tonight…little hurt cause you lost..

      Little sad…a little..

      • joey4id - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        Honestly. Didn’t have a horse in the race. Love to watch these teams play each other. Enjoy the Flyers more than their arrogant fanatics.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      Defensively sound. I don’t know what game you were watching but they were collapsing in their own zone and winning most of the battles. Pens played most of the 3rd barely penetrating the offensive zone, although they did get a few solid chances which Razor slammed the door on. Neil should have done a bit of a reconditioning stint, he could barely stand on his skates tonight.

      • joey4id - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:40 PM

        Why would a goalie have to make so many great saves if his team was playing solid defense? They Pens were too fast for the Flyers, who admittedly gave an all out good effort. I agree about Neal. Where was Hartnell tonight? He was completely irrelevant.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        He was as irrelevant as Neal, so i guess it evens out. You do realize that defensive play involves more than shots on goal, right? Clearing the crease, clearing rebounds, blocking shots, back checking etc. For a team that is so fast they sure as hell had a hard time penetrating the offensive zone, sustaining a forecheck and keeping the pressure on the Flyers. Your team was coughing up so many pucks at the blue line like they had pneumonia.

        Enjoy your losing streak.

  10. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Good win by the Flyers tonight. As for the Pens where’s the DAMN offense!! Seriously Malkin has been very invisible this year…he become an average player with his slump. It’s like ever since Malkin went to the KHL last year he’s become a different player and just watch him light it up in the Olympics…and I wouldn’t be shocked. Dupuis makes too much money to not produce…his money could’ve went towards finding scoring depth on the 3rd line which is something we don’t have. If the Pens want to go deep in the playoffs then they need depth. We had it in 2009 with Staal Cooke and Kennedy.

    The last thing I want to say is that our crowd ABSOLUTELY sucks!! Honestly not much emotion is showed from them…it’s like a ghost town at some points. I’ve been going to games for along time with my dad as a kid up to current day and it’s like ever since Consol opened up our crowd is pathetic. Yeah we have a sellout streak but lets not forget that half the crowd leaves with 3 minutes left in the 3rd and are casual fans!

    • flyersfan85 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:21 PM

      Bravo man..

  11. devilsarethebest - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    But, but, Crosbys goal….

  12. flyersfan85 - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:17 PM


    Just imagine if the last 2 games…was for real and the Flyers actually do have players that are NHL caliber.

    Imagine that the BS Emery fight and after comment really did spark the team..BS, btw!!

    Imagine that the Flyers have a tandem of goalies that cancompete..nightly and the coach has the (unenviable) job of deciding which goalie to play

    Imagine that the Flyers had a D that is NOT mediocre..didnt say good..but ok..

    And imagine that Vorachek (2 goals yesterday), Simmer (stout forechecker), B Schenn (2 tonight), and Couts (Malkin agitator, enough for me) were good players I can stop listening to whinyazz Flyers fans talk of how the Richards/Carter trades were…fckin blah blah..shutup…

  13. chanceoffleury - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:20 PM

    Well the Pens have found themselves in quite the little slump here. Eh, at least it’s still November.

    Right now is when the 3rd and 4th liners need to step up and get some offensive production. When Crosby, Malkin and Letang look as average (okay, so they’ve looked straight up bad baring a few bright spots here and there, but you didn’t hear it from me) as they have the last handful of games, the Pens need to learn to dig deep and turn somebody else into a hero. I think part of their problem since 2010 is their overall lack of adversity and total reliance on Malkin and Crosby whenever they’re in the lineup. If Malkin and/or Crosby are in the press box the Pens actually play better as a whole “team”. Now that’s not me saying I think the Pens should be shopping anybody of the previous Hart winning trophy variety, because the majority of the time 87 and 71 aren’t this slumpy, but if you look at when either of them have been hurt throughout the past 3 years you can see there is much more variety on the Pens boxscore in the points column. Just an observation that transfers over from the playoff loss. I think people are quick to point the finger at the main guys, but nobody seems to ask why the rest of the team can’t rally around them to produce something.

  14. mclovinhockey - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:36 PM

    Interesting game. Not a lot of stuff that usually happens I their rivalry… Good D, and the goalies stole the show.

    For the first time since I can remember, I can honestly say, I am confident in the flyers goalies, no matter who is in net.

    Sid had a beauty tonight as well.

    Till next game pens, go flyers.

    • mcphillthy - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:34 PM

      Wow man. You’re right!! For the first time of my life I am confident in our goaltending. Unbelievable… Go flyers!!!!

  15. LampyB - Nov 13, 2013 at 11:55 PM

    Where is Whammy and his expansive…err single track of insults now? I miss your stupidity man, let’s hear about how bad philly is.

    Wait, you never actually mention the flyers, you only care about the city itself which is quite irrelevant.

    • whammy71 - Nov 14, 2013 at 1:13 PM

      Come on man….I talk about Fraud Gayroux and his band of misfit gingers all the time. Maybe you need to brush up on your read comprehension.

      Enjoy your crappy season.

  16. cmpuck - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:30 AM

    Fun game to watch with the goalies both playing great.

    Wheres the clown who spells everything in CAPS and brags about eating tater tots and having a job?

  17. 28giroux28 - Nov 14, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Coming from a Flyers fan…that was a questionable no-goal on the Kunitz kick. Good to see the Flyers wake up but they can’t get caught flat footed like that and hope the refs throw them a bone.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Nov 14, 2013 at 1:09 AM

      What was questionable about it? Kunitz kicked in the goal and it was disallowed. Hell, Kunitz knew he kicked it in thats why he skated to the bench and didn’t protest.

      • kellyb9 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:34 AM

        Yeah, not sure what 28giroux28 is talking about. Not a questionable no goal call at all. That was pretty textbook if you ask me.. I would think even most Pens fans would agree.

        That being said – good win. The Pens still had some really nice shots (they just completely missed the net). Emery won this game.

  18. lordstanleyscup40 - Nov 14, 2013 at 5:12 AM

    One night after winning 5-0 on the road, they get a gritty, hard-fought win over their biggest rival- again on the road. I must say, games/wins like this are the test of a team’s toughness. The (no) goal at the beginning of the game, Simmer’s one-man forechecking to set up the first schenn goal and the play where Matt Read hustled back after a bad play to block a shot were just great. B. Schenn and Simmer’s play really sparked the team, but I will say the Razor’s play in net was brilliant. The announcers pointed it out at one point, but his rebound control/ability to deflect shots in a way where the defense was able to get control of the puck was brilliant.

    I know there is still a lot of hockey to be played, but the in-game adjustments and the way Chief has this team playing is impressive, as well. If the Flyers can end the road trip with a win in Winnipeg, we may see the team take-off on a nice streak (with, I believe, 3 home games to follow). Tonight wasn’t pretty, but the ugly wins build confidence, character and grit for teams throughout a season- knowing they can still win, even when all cylinders aren’t firing.

  19. philafly - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:23 AM

    Very exciting game to watch. So many moments where I was holding my breath for probably an unsafe amount of time, i.e. the very end of the second period where there was a ton of activity right on top of Emery and he someone managed to keep the puck out as time expired. Also, every single Pitt power play. But the Flyers played very strong, especially on the back end of back to back games on the road. Flyers seem to be on the right track. Finish the road trip strong and see where this leads. Also, is this what good goaltending feels like? It’s so… nice.

  20. whammy71 - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:32 AM

    Congrats to the Flyers – way to come into your rivals building and take 2 points in regulation.

  21. cantstandstupid - Nov 14, 2013 at 8:55 AM

    I understand how reporters want to force feed the masses how great Crosby is and he’s the face of the NHL blah blah blah, but saying that his goal “was just nice” is a huge overstatement and then giving a link to watch this ho hum goal is pathetic. Malkin made a good pass and Crosby just tipped it in. Nothing special about that in my eyes. Why not mention Schenn’s first goal that was setup by Simmer beasting 2 Pens d men, taking the puck away, finding Schenn in the slot and Schenn burying the goal high glove hand. These clown writers never give credit where credit is actually due. All this clown Cam Tucker wants to write is how the game winner was nothing special, but fails to mention that the Flyers kept offensive zone pressure, won races for the puck and kept it in the zone for the game winning goal.

    • macjacmccoy - Nov 14, 2013 at 9:30 AM

      Even though I agree with you the thing he said about Shenn’s game winning goal is exactly what the Flyers want and need. It wasnt pretty which is good. The Flyers’ problem last year and this year on offense has been trying to make to many pretty passes and shots. Leading to turnovers, pucks bouncing over sticks, and missing the net. They need more ugly goals and that’s exactly what they got last night from Shenn. Years past when the Flyers were constantly at the top of the league in goal scoring that’s how they did. With guys in front of the goal crease chopping at the puck, getting rebounds, and knocking em’ in.

      You might see his statement as an insult, but I just see it as a sign that the Flyers are getting back to playing the way they’re suppose to.

      • cantstandstupid - Nov 14, 2013 at 9:44 AM

        Lucky for you I have a brain and don’t see anything insulting in your statement. Just some friendly banter about hockey. Can’t hate on that! I agree with what you say, I like when they get those dirty goals by being in front of the net. The one thing that I am happy to see is that the Flyers are taking more shots from the point so those players in front of the net have a chance to get a rebound or tip the puck. Last year they constantly tried to get a 2 on 1 down low but would make a bad pass and turn the puck over instead of passing it back to someone on the point to blast a shot on net. Without a shot on net, having players crashing the front doesn’t do much good.

    • macjacmccoy - Nov 14, 2013 at 10:52 AM

      Oh no I didnt mean what I said being insulting, I meant you taking insult to what Tucker said, but insult is probably the wrong word for it anyway. More like being more annoyed by him than anything.

      Yea I agree though. Also it seems earlier this year even when they were getting shots from the point they would be all alone when doing so. Like there wouldnt be a screen and the goalie would just pick the puck up in the air and stop it like it was nothing. Or even when they had a screen they would have no help on the wings so if the goalie gave up a rebound the defense would easily collect it and clear the zone or it would just bounce out of the zone on its own. It was like once the puck was shot the Flyers would immediately retreat to their own zone and not even attempt to follow up the shot or forecheck.

      It seemed to have gotten worse before it had gotten better. I was at that Devil’s game the other night and all those bad habits got even more exaggerated. But since then they’ve done a 180 and have improved those areas a lot. As long as they dont relapse these small winning streaks should start to get bigger and happen more frequently.

  22. whiskytango333 - Nov 14, 2013 at 9:59 AM

    Nice road win by the Flyers. Looks like they may finally be getting it together. As for the Penguins, just another disappointing loss. I don’t mind them losing games 4-3, but with all that offense on the bench, losing these games 2-1 is sickening.

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