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‘The effort was pathetic,’ says Flyers owner after 3-0 loss to Devils

Nov 8, 2013, 1:55 PM EDT

We briefly mentioned Ed Snider’s frustration at the bottom of our post on the Jordan Eberle-Philadelphia trade rumor. Here is the Flyers’ outspoken owner in full as he sounds off on his team’s dismal performance last night versus New Jersey:

Some key quotes for those who can’t watch:

“I’ve been in the game for 47 years. I’ve never seen anything like this. We certainly know that we’re more talented than we’re showing on the ice. I think the question is, ‘How talented are we?'”

“I’m hoping they’ll snap out of it and show us the kind of talent that they’ve shown in the past and that we believe they still have.”

“When [the fans are] booing like they were last night, to me it’s very disconcerting, but I understand it. I don’t blame them. The effort was pathetic. We were losing all the battles along the boards and we can’t continue to be a team that can’t score. If we can’t score, we can at least win the battles along the boards.”

“I’ve never seen a team that can’t score…with the talent that we have.”

“It’s a constant thing to evaluate talent. Players are good, then they struggle, they go through certain things, but usually not all at once. We all know what these guys can do. It’s not like they’re all new guys and we never saw them before. Everybody knows what Claude Giroux can do and what kind of talent he has.”

The Flyers host Edmonton Saturday in a meeting between two teams that desperately need to turn things around, if it’s not too late already.

Speaking of Giroux…

  1. ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:07 PM


  2. philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:17 PM

    Good lord, Ed! Wake up! You are more delusional than I feared if you think those boo’s are for the players only. They are directed at you too, old man. You have allowed your inept GM to steer this team directly into the toilet while you sit there and criticize anyone who is fed up with your system.

    You could not be less in touch with your fan base.

    • WillIEverSeeACupInMyLife? - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:22 PM

      It is alarming that he doesn’t get it. You can go back to the early Lindros interviews and he is saying the same exact things!!!

  3. curioustraveler13 - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:24 PM

    Hey guys remember. “We don’t need a culture change, our culture is fine”.

    • philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      Yea. That’s what we are commenting on, Slick.

      • curioustraveler13 - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:46 PM

        Slick is a new one! Ill take it. Usually I get called something that rhymes with slick.

      • peterjohnjoseph - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:21 PM

        Well, in your “curious travels” you’re bound to find a blind girl or two that you can trick into pulling the flashlight out of your knapsack. Your secrets safe with me.

        See, you are slick.

  4. darksidecowboy - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:32 PM

    Just trade Giroux to Phoenix for Smith, goaltending issues fixed, plus he has more goal production this season

    • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM

      the Flyers don’t have goaltending issues.


      • ntvd7 - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        Mason has been very good this year

        Take the “C” off of Giroux already – He hasn’t been the same since he got it

      • President Charles Logan - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:25 PM

        sooner or later you’ll get the real steve mason … average at best

    • Meta - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      are you high? the goaltending has been just fine this year and i never want to see another phoenix goalie come here again

  5. pxland - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:36 PM

    I usually stay out of posts about Pittsburgh or Philly, because y’all are crazy, but I think it’s time to mention something that might not be obvious….

    This team sucks>Claude G. is the leader>Claude G. can fetch a major return>Claude G. is “overpaid” (easing those cap concerns)>Claude G. would likely find his game somewhere else>Trade Claude G. as the centerpiece of a blockbuster and Philly might actually not get fleeced.

    • elmerbrownelmerbrown - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM

      Trade him to Pittsburgh even up for Crosby ! What ?????? It would just be trading the best player in the world for the best player in the world !

      • newjerseydevilsfanpuckcollection - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:45 PM

        hahahaha… That will never happen.

    • pxland - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM

      Let me add that before you do that, make sure you hire a competent GM. Then trade Giroux.

      • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:47 PM

        No, bad advice on changing GMs first. If the Flyers traded Giroux, he’d be back as an elite player in no time. That’s how it works in Philly. I’d rather have another example of that on Homer’s rap sheet than Hextall’s.

      • pxland - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM

        That’s the point though. Every GM in the league knows Giroux can be an elite player, and he is doing NOTHING for your team. Trade value=super high, actual value=super low.

        The advice to make a GM switch first comes from me not wanting to see Philly destroyed in a trade again. You know G will pick it up, so does everyone else, I’m sure what Hextall would like to see on his rap sheet is value towards a quick rebuild and moves that make financial sense.

  6. nach0mancandysandwich - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:41 PM

    I love that this guy thinks he is a hockey mind. Board play isn’t the reason you’re losing. Every layer of this team is put in a position to fail by management.

    Ed Snyder=poor mans Jerry Jones.

    • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:52 PM

      I looked it up, they’re worth about the same amount of money. who knew?

  7. eagles512 - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:43 PM

    Snider is the problem. Refuses to hold Holmgren accountable.

    • newjerseydevilsfanpuckcollection - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      Finally someone who said it.

    • drone501 - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:44 AM

      the problem is too many ex flyers are running the show. first holmgren has to go, he’s cost this franchise millions with his f-cked trades over the years, and then berube. start over, clean slate, got to bring in sound hockey minds. thats my opinion. hell, i live in pittsburgh and i can,t bear to see this happening to the flyers.

  8. ematusko - Nov 8, 2013 at 2:56 PM

    All your fault, Ed! You refuse to bring in outsiders for perspective, and try to play the game the way it was 40 years ago. Gotta evolve buddy!!!!

    • newjerseydevilsfanpuckcollection - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      He’s probably wish he could re-suit up the old Broadstreet group.

      They would probably outperform the current line-up. Only problem would be that the goalies would have to learn to play with full mask, that might take a little adjustment.

      • drone501 - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:45 AM


  9. blackandorangeforlife - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    The article does not contain this gem of a quote
    He acknowledged that fans calling for the firing of general manager Paul Holmgren is “upsetting,” but that both he and the GM understand it. And he knows what’s in store if things don’t change. Soon.

    “Next,” Snider said, “they’ll be calling for my head.””
    Really Ed?……You think that might happen soon?…….He is reminding me of “Rainman”….Only without the intelligence!

    • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:13 PM

      “they’ll be calling for my head.”

      god damnit that’s a conceited thing to say. he knows we can’t fire him. it’s almost like telling us “yeah we suck but at least I get paiiiiiiiddddddd sonnnnnnn!”

      reminding me of the team owner from Major League…. cept I wouldn’t bang Ed Snider.

      • philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:16 PM

        They should do the carboard cut-out stunt from Major League 2. Except instead of removing clothing for wins, they remove it for losses. Should get them playing better.

      • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        that may be the greatest idea of all time….. as long as they don’t televise it.

      • drone501 - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:47 AM

        oh, at first i thought you meant marge schott.

  10. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:42 PM

    I knew it would only be a matter of time until we saw a “Giroux Score Yet” twitter account.

    • ibieiniid - Nov 8, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      you know you can create twitter accounts right?

  11. crazemastercraze - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Everyone involved with this organization: ownership, management, fans…. Are caught in a “Matrix” type fantasy land. The only thing that even comes close to this is Cowboys nation. Delusion unmatched by a long country mile

    • philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 4:52 PM

      Have you not learned how to read yet? I mean you must have, right? You’re commenting on an article that you presumably read. Maybe you just skipped the comments.

      Let me bring you up to speed. Not one Flyers fan that has commented on this article has said that the team is fine. Every single comment here states dissatisfaction (that means unhappiness, fella) with the organization up to its highest level. In fact, the only aspect of the organization receiving praise right now is its goaltending, which has been surprisingly good.

      Try reading the comments first. Even your fellow Pittsburgh fans are relatively tame in this comments section. Take some notes.

  12. crazemastercraze - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    I just love breaking your balls, philly sports fans make it so incredibly easy.

  13. philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:19 PM

    Well it can be exhausting to respond to Penguins fans who apparently were not aware they had a hockey team more than 10 years ago.

    To borrow from “Stepanup” in another comments section:
    (Chapter 11 Bankruptcy)
    (Pittsburgh last in attendance)
    (25th in ’02-’03)

    • philafly - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM

      By the way those are called statistics. You can preach about 1975 all you want, which is what I am sure you will respond with. The fact is, Flyers fans don’t disappear when their team struggles. Penguins fans vanish. That is more embarassing than not winning a cup.

      • curioustraveler13 - Nov 8, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        Pittsburgh is a small market team compared to Philly a large market team. Philly had way more $ to spend then Pittsburgh before the salary cap got introduced yet still failed to produce a Stanley cup. Congrats on having more fans show up to watch your team fail though!

  14. President Charles Logan - Nov 8, 2013 at 7:31 PM

    I keep hearing the Philly faithful refer to “alls this talent”…. but other then Giroux where’s all this talent? … anyone?

    • drone501 - Nov 9, 2013 at 8:49 AM

      well put el presidente

  15. babykaby - Nov 8, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    I guess that spark that was supposedly lit in Washington the other night petered out. What a joke. The only thing that will ever help the Flyers is for them to stop all the unneccesary nonsense on the ice and just play the game.

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