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NHL: No hearing scheduled for Emery after Holtby fight

Nov 2, 2013, 3:49 PM EDT

Flyers goalie Ray Emery has no disciplinary hearing scheduled after his fisticuffs with Washington’s Braden Holtby on Friday night, according to an NHL spokesman.

Emery, 31, was given 29 penalty minutes, including a game misconduct, after challenging Holtby to a scrap in the third period of the Caps’ 7-0 win at Wells Fargo. Holtby, who looked to be an unwilling participant, absorbed several blows before linesmen and players intervened.

Here’s the video:

Emery got an instigator penalty, a five-minute major for fighting, and a game misconduct for his actions. Following the game, the Philly netminder confirmed that Holtby wasn’t interested in throwing down.

“[Holtby] didn’t want to fight and I basically said, ‘Protect yourself,’” Emery said, as per the Washington Post. “He didn’t really have much of a choice.”

NOTE: The NHL does hold the option of re-assessing the incident and scheduling a hearing at any time. That said, the Flyers do have a game this evening against New Jersey, so it’s likely a hearing would have been held already if Emery was set to face a suspension.

UPDATE: Here’s more on the situation, from ESPN’s Pierre LeBrun.


  1. flyerguy73 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    The guy is an idiot. Hope he gets some kind of suspension! Another bad move for the flyers signing this moron! This coming from a flyers fan.

    • upper90cheese - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      As a true Flyers fan (which you are not) I admire Razors show of emotion and aggression.

      • flyersfan85 - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:35 PM

        So someone disagrees with your point of view and they aren’t a fan…get real. I admire his emotion and aggression and think he should have attaked the puck and used his emotion to focus on stopping the puck from hitting the net. Only so much BS about defense can be applied to save the goaile (ie. 2 on 1, not clearing the net…yadda yadda..)

        Grab a little reality before you call others a ‘non’ fan.

      • screwthenhl - Nov 3, 2013 at 11:53 PM

        Attacking a goalie and beating him in the back of the head after he has hit the ground is not a show of emotion and aggression, that is down right bullying. If you support that, you must be one and deserve the same thing he does. The NHL not fining him or anything, is stupid. Holtby didnt want to fight, so Emery should have respected that and not done anything stupid. I wish someone had jumped out and rocked emerys noggin around like they did to Lecalvier. Bring Emery to DC.

    • jpelle82 - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:52 PM

      i dont know if it was necessarily a bad signing just because he acted like an idiot for a night.

  2. huberdeau11 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    This is the right thing to do. Taking away Emery would only help the Flyers, letting him keep playing is a fair punishment.

    • shortorlongone - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:01 PM

      Why punish the whole team for one member’s actions?

  3. rockthered1286 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    The best part for me was Holtby laughing it off after the chaos had settled.

    • 19to77 - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:20 PM

      Holtby’s just about the most mentally unshakeable goalie I’ve seen recently. Going back to his rookie year when… Boychuk, was it? Anyway, some Bruin fake-slashed at his head and he didn’t even move. The guy’s just icy as hell. Nothing seems to gets to him.

      • chanceoffleury1 - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:06 PM

        except dancing in the locker room before a game. That’s where he draws the line!

        In all seriousness, I agree completely! Goalies that have got it together emotionally are hard to come by so Washington should hold on tight!

  4. chotime01 - Nov 2, 2013 at 3:58 PM

    Wow. The NHL is just getting awful. So when a goon is grabbing Sidney Crosby to beat the white off him and Crosby turtles and the goon continues to beat on him while he is still unwilling to fight back, is the goon going to get suspended for beating the white off the NHL poster child? Show some consistency NHL before you become the laughing stock of sports entertainment.

    • jimbotopshelf - Nov 3, 2013 at 8:07 AM

      BEFORE………becoming the laughing stock of the sports world? The NHL is the ‘laughing stock’ of the sports’ world. The Flyers are the most laughable ‘thing’ in the NHL. IDK ‘where’ they find these guys, but they continue to spend real dollars on cartoon characters! Good for The Penguins!

  5. jwmcdonald86 - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:07 PM

    If Holtby had just turtled we wouldn’t be having these stupid discussions. The official would’ve broken it up right away. Instead, he had a go and got tossed around. No big deal.

    • alexnewca - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:19 PM

      If you watch the fight, Holtby falls a bunch of times and the ref signals to let it keep going. Wouldn’t say he let it keep going, he was protecting himself.

      • upper90cheese - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:01 PM

        Holt by should play tennis

    • sabatimus - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:31 PM

      Holtby should have turtled at first and then the fight wouldn’t have happened at all, yes. But Holtby engaged and then decided he wanted nothing to do with it afterward. However, the ref who was standing right there watching him get beat while he was down on the ice should be suspended.

      • shortsxit34 - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        Engaged how? Holtby didn’t even have his gloves off.

      • mp1131211 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:43 AM

        What the hell are you talking about? Engaged? Like in how he tried to dodge emery’s grab? Or like in how he left his glove and blocker on? Maybe you mean how he shook his head as Emery approached?

    • flavadave10 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:33 PM

      Right, let some crazed lunatic land more blows to the back of your head. Helen Keller could have seen that Holtby wanted no part of the fight.

    • screwthenhl - Nov 3, 2013 at 11:57 PM

      Holtby just tried to keep the guy from hitting him. He dropped to the ice and the ref was supposed to stop the fight. He didnt, if Holtby had been hurt, emery should get suspended for the remainder of the season and the refs should lose a third of their salary.

  6. lowenni - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:14 PM

    He should get suspended. He came out of the crease (penalty), instigated a fight (penalty), and fought Holtby who was totally unwilling. It shouldn’t be more than two or three games, but there should be punishment for beating down on someone who doesn’t want to fight.

    The ref who just stood idly by should be suspended also. Pitiful refereeing during that line brawl.

    • shortorlongone - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:48 PM

      No kidding. Emery challenges and Holtby says no. Emery comes after him anyway and the ref’s just stand there while the guy gets his butt beat. If any of the Capitals would have come to his aid, that’s 3rd man in and you’re screwed….Oh, and imagine the beat down the Flyers would deliver for touching Emery. So for Holtby it’s a lose-lose situation. Time to start firing slap shots at the linesmen during the next play.

  7. FoozieGrooler - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Don’t worry, he’ll get his in due time…

    • jpelle82 - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:48 PM

      who will? emery? the professionally trained boxer? doubt it.

      • shortorlongone - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:09 PM

        Naw, Emery will get his by just getting ice time. Sadly, so will the team with more and more 7-0 losses with him in net.

  8. uscthom78 - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Let’s see if caps claim kaleta, next time caps play philly with emery in goal. I wanna see emery reaction when kaleta tells ray to protect himself.

    • flavadave10 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:38 PM

      Why would they claim Kaleta when they have Joel Rechlicz in Hershey?

  9. blackandorangeforlife - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    As a Flyers fan i was hoping for at least a 2 game suspension……There was absolutely no need for or reason for Emery’s actions…..None!

  10. mc321984 - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    Maybe their coach will be fined for “player selection”. Ha.

    NHL is such a joke with punishment

  11. allday420ap - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:45 PM

    If he ever tried to fight josh harding, ray would be in for a world of pain.

  12. ethanmacleod1685 - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:53 PM

    Did anyone else see Emery shaking his head to get his mask off on that goal, he is an absolute coward.

  13. hosewater2 - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Is Emery a hasbeen or neverwas?

    • travishenryskid - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:56 PM

      Gordon Bombay

  14. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM

    Such a POS is Emery for this. Honestly if this was off the ice he’d being spending time in jail. What a thug

  15. pitpenguinsrulez - Nov 2, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Emery = a garbage player

  16. hazlydose - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    Current rulebook doesn’t back any suspension? CBA Article 18-A.2 states: Whenever the Commissioner determines that a player has violated a League Rule applicable to players or has been guilty of conduct (whether during or outside the playing season) that is detrimental to or against the welfare of the League or the game of hockey, he may discipline such Player in any or all of the following respects:.
    It then goes on to list the different ways that Bettman can exercise his absolute power to protect the integrity of the NHL and the game of hockey. Bettman does have the authority to punish Emery. He just doesn’t want to upset Ed Snider.

    • blackandorangeforlife - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:24 PM

      So you think Bettman is codling to Snider?….Pretty sure Giroux was suspended during the playoffs……Kinda blows a whole in that theory!

      • hazlydose - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:41 PM

        That wasn’t Bettman that was Shanahan. The protocol for review of plays and suspension is a different process from the Commissioner using his discretion to exercise authority. Bettman =/= The Office of Player Safety. Two completely different processes.

    • hazlydose - Nov 2, 2013 at 6:14 PM

      Also rule 28.1 allows the Commissioner to launch an investigation within 24 hours of an incident and to take into account off ice actions including post game comments (“I told him to protect himself”). It also allows this investigation to include coaches and non playing club personnel including executives (GMs). Didn’t a certain GM visit the locker room 5 minutes before the incident? Sounds like the means are in the rulebook. The commissioner is just choosing not to use his authority.

  17. shortsxit34 - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    It’s called a Match penalty–attempt to injure.

    Racing the length of the ice, instigating a fight with an unwilling participant, and refusing to stop sounds like it qualifies to me.

  18. joeyg88 - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:01 PM

    That would be racist if they suspend him….

    • canadianguest - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:55 PM

      It’s racist if they don’t discipline him.

  19. alicesrightfootesq - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:12 PM

    This stuff makes me ashamed to be a fan.

  20. nj666 - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:25 PM

    good, play him tonight!

    • shortorlongone - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:51 PM

      Why punish the whole team for the actions of one player?

      • capsrockva - Nov 2, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        really the flyers had 99 minutes in penalty minutes

  21. mclovinhockey - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    I’ve been saying this for years, there are not enough rules for fighting. People can jump players, hit them in the back of the head, punch them while they are on the ground, throw superman punches, and even use helmets and elbow pads as weapons.

    What Emery did was 100% legal, even though it was crap.

    • mp1131211 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:47 AM

      You know he for thrown out of the game on a match penalty right? As in “illgal”

  22. President Charles Logan - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    you “fans” are a bunch of skirt wearing purse swinging pu$$ies

    • shortorlongone - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      Says the internet tough guy!

      • President Charles Logan - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM

        must have struck a nerve huh

    • ziplock10 - Nov 3, 2013 at 9:39 AM

      That’s funny. Caps up 5-0 and Volpatti just abused Downie to the point that he conceded while still on his skates. Volpatti cut Downie a break by allowing him to quit. Non playing thugs always kick a guy when he’s down. Guess you’re overcompensating for something..

  23. mclovinhockey - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:45 PM

    @chotime01, funny enough, Crosby has jumped players before, hit them while they are down ect… The rules are okay with it, wasn’t illegal.

  24. travishenryskid - Nov 2, 2013 at 5:54 PM

    They fined Ron Rolston for “player selection”. Where is there anything about that in the rule book?

  25. capsrockva - Nov 2, 2013 at 7:42 PM

    That is ridiculous there was no hearing. The game was clearly over and there were already 4 fights going on. I get that the league has no rules for that but really??!!!! give me a break

  26. jimw81 - Nov 2, 2013 at 8:16 PM

    nhl suspension process is a joke and will always be a joke because they are ever consistent and will NEVER send a message. it has gotten 10x worst since shanban got in charge.

  27. canadianguest - Nov 2, 2013 at 9:00 PM

    This is the best scenario I’ve seen where the police needs to make an arrest. It was an attack, and there is an admission of guilt. The guy lets in a bunch of goals and is allowed to pummel someone because he’s pissed off?

  28. macjacmccoy - Nov 2, 2013 at 10:39 PM

    F’ It. Goon it up Flyers. If you can’t beat em then beat them. Not every player or every team will be weary when they play you but some will and maybe you can use that to get a win or two.

    • mp1131211 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:51 AM

      It’s not like they’re in the western conference. If they keep this up, they’re going to get consistent beat downs themselves from their eastern divisional, talentless, goon styled rivalries. Face it, a win or two isn’t worth concussing more players.

  29. tobie1003 - Nov 3, 2013 at 8:03 AM

    Not only should emery be suspended, but the ref that stood by after holtby went to the ice and let emery continue to beat on holtby should be suspended also

  30. drewsylvania - Nov 3, 2013 at 11:09 AM

    For all of you morons insulting me for my opinion that nothing Emery did was suspendable: Would you like some more crow?

    For the last time, Holtby skated up to Emery. After Emery reached Holtby’s circle, Holtby met him there. Holtby was willing at the very start of the altercation.

    Besides, even if Holtby wasn’t willing, there’s nothing in the rules that suggests suspension for Emery’s actions. Nothing. There probably should be, but there isn’t.

    It’s a shame, too, because Emery is a total *****.

  31. flavadave10 - Nov 3, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    I’m not a fan of stooping down to another team’s level, but I’m all in favor of the Capitals calling Joel Rechlicz for the next Caps-Flyers game. If the Flyers want a fight, I say Joel Rechlicz ought to oblige them.

  32. provguard - Nov 3, 2013 at 4:58 PM

    Animals! Nothing less than primitive hunter gatherers… Stay real cool hockey. Why have pucks and sticks, just kill one another???

  33. ziplock10 - Nov 4, 2013 at 8:08 AM

    Please read and STHU.

    Now it maybe hard for some of you, reading…. But try.

    • flavadave10 - Nov 4, 2013 at 8:32 AM


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