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Flyers just ‘stood around’ in loss to Ducks

Oct 30, 2013, 12:46 AM EDT

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The Philadelphia Flyers got out to a 2-0 lead, and then fell apart against the Anaheim Ducks.

The result was a 3-2 regulation loss to the visiting Ducks, and the Flyers now remain at the bottom of the Metropolitan Division with a 3-8-0 record.

The first period was good for Philadelphia. Not only did the Flyers pot a couple of goals to take the lead, they also outshot the Ducks and looked to be in control.

Then it all went wrong. The Ducks scored three unanswered goals, including a pair from Kyle Palmieri in the third.

“We obviously didn’t answer,” Flyers forward Wayne Simmonds told CSN Philadelphia. “It’s really disappointing. We had the game. We were up 2-0 and we just stopped playing.

“We stood around and we were watching. That’s all I can really say. We stood and around and started watching them instead of playing ourselves.”

  1. sjsharks66 - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    “We stood and around and…”

    Did he really say that or is it a typo?

  2. trbowman - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:56 AM

    Fire Laviolette! He sucks!

    O wait…..

    Bottom line – The curtains were called for this team when they traded one of the NHL’s best captains in Mike Richards not one year after their cup run.

    There’s no character on this Flyers team, nobody to answer the bell. It’s sad.

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Oct 30, 2013 at 3:56 AM

      Mike Richards? Let it go man, he was a $5m role player

      • patthehockeyfan - Oct 30, 2013 at 8:27 AM

        I neither thumbed up nor down your comment, ethanmacleod1685. Allow me, though, to take exception to it. While I’m aware of the rumored reasons for Richards’ (and Carter’s) trade from the Flyers, I wouldn’t call Richie (or Carter) role players. Then again, they played great roles the following season when they won the Stanley Cup with the LA Kings. :)

        I commented on a thread last week that the Flyers’ bad ju-ju seemed to begin after they were traded. It would seem as if other people on this thread might agree.

      • kellyb9 - Oct 30, 2013 at 8:29 AM

        *Thank You!* Everyone talks about how they should have kept Richards and Carte while they completely forget about how much money the Flyers owed them. These decisions arent made in a vacuum – there are other factors.

      • ericcoyle15 - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        Im literally so sick and tired of hearing about the “mike richards and jeff carter trade that should have never happened”……..point is if you watch the 2010 stanley cup run there was no man in the NHL that had more heart then richards without a doubt but after we last and you watch him the next year it was completely gone, and we wouldnt have the young players we have right now if it wasnt for those trades, we would still be stuck with that prick aaron asham and the grinder powe, you have to look at the big picture and have to let go of your obvious emotional attachment you had with a flyers ex captain

      • President Charles Logan - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:46 AM

        lol a 5 million dollar role player that’s been to 2 SC Finals already , more then anyone can say for the savior boys like simmonds voracek and schenn

      • joey4id - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:03 PM

        Giroux is being paid 5mil, and will get 10mil next year. Ouch!

  3. xxakshunxx - Oct 30, 2013 at 2:12 AM

    Yea I never understood why they traded both Carter and Richards, I could see moving one to wake your team up but they haven’t been the same since

    • flyerspsu - Oct 31, 2013 at 3:32 PM

      in 2012 when they gave the reigns to giroux and were pretty much rebuilding with like 7 rookies on the team they were surprising damn good, they finished with the 3rd most points in the east just 1 behind the pens and then beat them in the 1st round of the playoffs

      thats why the last year and a half have been even more surprising, giroux was top 5 and now its hard to put him in the top 15, couturier was unbelievable in rookie year but he hasnt done much since, hartnell put 37 goals that year, he has about 7 since, mostly due to injury but still, read put up 24 goals

      its a shame, something did needed to be done in 2011, richards and carter were both signed for over 10 years with over a 5 mil cap hit and got way too complacent and just werent playing as hard

      i would have kept richards b/c hes just not the type of player you trade, hes the kind of player every team would die for come playoff time, 1-2-3 center punch of giroux, richards, couturier would be pretty great, very good defensively too

  4. logicczech - Oct 30, 2013 at 5:08 AM

    But wait, is this the same team who last year claimed that have the “best player in the world”? the Ginger Gerooo? I wish all the worse to all Philly sports teams

    • tansolo1 - Oct 30, 2013 at 6:46 AM

      FU(k u

    • laxman1944 - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:25 AM


    • igglesrealist - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

      Your English is awesome. I wish that your blow up girlfriend pops on your wedding day.

      • whammy71 - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:07 PM

        this has to be iggleballs from last year….what’s the deal with changing your screen name???

  5. tansolo1 - Oct 30, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    Watching the game last night one could tell the Flyers were gonna loose. in the second they got letargic and in the third the shots were 14-3 at one point they could not make it pass the blue line. Why? The stupid turnovers and it was not one player it was all of them playing stupid. Again and this happens over and over and over Couturier is a turnover machine and yet they have him in the power play????!!! he looses the puck, he made crappy passes and get pushed away from the puck, whoever said this guy was a keeper is defenetely freaking blind!!!!
    Hartnell, why is he still in the flyers lineup? he is wasted space on the ice, cannot make a pass, cannot play in the same line with Lecavalier or Giroux he is not a play maker, cant crash the net, why the hell is he there for?

    • hockey412 - Oct 30, 2013 at 8:09 AM

      I think it’s because they’re paying him $28.5M over the next six years and can’t buy him out nor can they move him. Hartnell’s been pretty consistent throughout his career, outside of this season and last, so it really does make you wonder what the eff is up. It is odd that so many players seemed to have regressed, yet the Director of Player Development just got promoted.

      Flyers could have won that game. Simmonds calls it “standing around” and maybe that’s true, I call it forgetting what the eff you are on the ice for. So many opportunities to get the puck and they go for the hit trying to be bad as*es. But badas*es they are not. Two Flyers go for a big hit on Palmieri, both out of position, and they lose. Case closed. Snider wants the hits, though, that’s Flyers hockey. Whatevs.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 8:23 AM

        sucks because Streit had such a good game til that point. I’m glad to see some of this defensive and goal tending effort (Grossmann is proving why he’s my favorite Flyers d-man), but I’m bummed it’s going to waste.

        on the bright side, the first period showed us what the Flyers are capable of. Berube pretty clearly stressed passing over the past few practices as every one of their first period passes were quick and tricky and right on the tape. This game came down to coaching though. say what you want about Boudreau (I think he’s silenced any critics he’s had from Washington by now), but Berube wasn’t ready for his coaching ability. Flyers initial game plan was working, Boudreau adjusted, Berube didn’t. new coach woes. I’ll get flamed for saying it, but I’m still not panicking with this team.

      • mcphillthy - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:25 AM

        I’m not panicking either. It’s not even November yet and I fully expected a month of Berube before we had anything going. It’s just baby steps until they get the system down. They are shaping up but we still have a few weeks until i start to worry

  6. csilojohnson - Oct 30, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Lose, Loss, Loser. Not “loose”
    Unless youre refering to Flyers managment.

    • villi5ed - Oct 30, 2013 at 6:47 PM

      Great, another genius who corrects a mistake by a previous poster ….. and
      then makes one of his own. “Managment?” Hilarious.

  7. curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:04 AM

    Well giroux ended up getting his first of the year. His first embellishment penalty. Lecavalier was easily the best flyer forward last night, yet he had 2 turnovers that led to goals for the ducks. Lucky for the flyers the metropolitan division sucks, however they are second to last in the NHL 1/8 of the way through the season. Next year at this time giroux will be pulling in 8 million. If your not a flyer fan you probably laughed at that last sentence.

    • laxman1944 - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:27 AM

      Worry about your own team Curios…….I see they’re dropping like flys over there.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:31 AM

        Players yes, in the standings no. We got a rookie named Jason Megna who has more goals then giroux in the 2 games he has played this year. Pens are finding ways to win games despite adversity. Flyers are finding ways to lose games, and are creating their own adversity.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:39 AM

        “finding ways to win A game,” is what you meant to say. Flyers have more Ws than the Pens in the last week.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 9:53 AM

        Hahaha are we going week by week now? Your right though the flyers did beat 2 backup goaltenders while the pens lost 3. That must of been flyer fans highlight of the season so far huh?

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:02 AM

        no, but considering you got D’Agostini and Letang back, i’m assuming the adversity you’re referring to is the losses of Scuderi and Kobasew……which have been in the past week……. in which you’ve only won one game.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:04 AM

        and oh yeah, that win came against Justin Peters…. the Canes backup goalie.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        so worry about your own team instead of commenting on every story about ours.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:12 AM

        Well that and we still don’t have James Neal and Beau Bennett. 2 top 6 forwards. Ill post strictly on penguins articles when flyer fans post strictly on flyer articles.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:31 AM

        how about you go to the last two, possibly more, penguins stories and cite a Flyers fan speaking ill of your Pens. you can’t. so stop commenting on literally every story about the flyers just to spew some more hate.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

        Well let’s see in the last Crosby article a flyer fan referred to Crosby as gay. Also look at the comments in the articles relating to the pens losses. Flyer fans give pens fans crap and vice versa. Don’t blame me that your team sucks and you can’t handle the criticism.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:42 AM

        here’s a little sign about how obsessed you are with the Flyers:
        google ”
        “curioustraveler13″ penguins flyers

        as many Flyers articles come up with your name in the comments than Pens ones, if not more. that’s definitely a sign that you should probably worry about your own f’ing team instead of ours.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:43 AM

        that’s not a Flyers fan that called him gay, I don’t believe. news flash, the Flyers aren’t the only fanbase that hates Crosby……

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        Aww I’m touched your googling me now. No worries I can multitask. I can make fun of your team, and root for my own. Haha your teams so bad now instead of trying to debate it, all you can say is “you comment too much on flyer articles get a life”. Why don’t you go cry to the comment police.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:56 AM

        why the f*** would I debate that our team is bad at 3-8-0? I put in my 2 cents above, you put in 0 cents every time. just telling you to stop being a di**head and let our bad season play out without rubbing it in…. just like nobody talked about how shi**y the Penguins were right before they got Crosby/Malkin.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Hahaha yea nobody made fun of the pens when they were bad. Okay. After the pens got swept by the bruins last year there were more flyer fans then bruins fans rejoicing. Face it man flyer fans enjoy pens struggles and vice versa. This is not something new. The flyers are just on the receiving end of it right now. For the record I did offer 2 cents. I said lecavalier was your best forward. Also mason is your team MVP. There I gave them kudos. Feel better now?

      • mcphillthy - Oct 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        Ibe– don’t feed the trolls, man. He enjoys getting a rise out of you so he won’t stop if you keep feeding him. The are like homeless cats… Feed em once and they keep coming back. He only comments when the flyers lose so you better get used to seeing him until our flyers get their sh!t together. We have a couple more weeks before they do

      • mcphillthy - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:12 PM

        Curious- I do enjoy watching you get everyone worked up though. You’re one of the better trolls I’ve seen in here. I think you are a good debater and I enjoy the teasing between rivals. The flyers are definitely on the receiving end now. I think us flyers fans are used to being a winning team so they can’t handle losing. Plus let’s be honest… Philly fans are whiners and we are never hapy anyway. Lol. If the flyers ever start winning again I may come pay a visit to the Pitt board and say hello. But I honestly enjoy watching you stir the pot

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:34 PM

        Haha thanks man. I do it for fun. No hard feelings. What goes around comes around. There will be a time when the pens are in a not so fortunate position, and I’ll be on the receiving end of some good jabs.

      • patthehockeyfan - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:50 PM

        Okay, kids. Don’t make me pull this car over!!!

  8. haterzinc - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:35 AM

    Lax your such a hypocrite……”worry about your own team”

    • laxman1944 - Oct 30, 2013 at 6:19 PM

      Get lost hater you should be worrying about Boston………..Putz

      And to list the issues with the Flyers………..I would not know where to begin to be honest.

  9. viperrko95 - Oct 30, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    What’s wrong with the Flyers is pretty plain and simple. They have no heart. Everyone is saying that they traded Richards and Carter without warrant. I tend to disagree on that front. Richards was a very important part in our 2010 Cup Run. But, you could see in his play on the ice, that as soon as the ‘Hawks beat us, his heart was instantly broken. He lost his fire, his passion. It might not have been the most popular move, but it was needed. As good of a player that Jeff was, he was pretty injury prone. He was going down every 2 to 3 weeks with a foot or ankle injury. He needed to be dealt as well. Could we have gotten more from LA for Richards? I absolutely believe so. But, hey……the trades happened, it’s history. Let it go. Let’s talk about the present. I honestly believe that the Flyers gave Giroux the “C” too early. They should’ve given it to a veteran on the team like Kimmo last year, and than given it to Vinny this year. G is scared. There is so much pressure on him as “C”, that’s he cracking under the weight of it. Another major problem the Flyers have is that they have no stud defender. Streit is a good defender, but he’s hitting the wrong side of 30. Coburn is a very good defender, but he’s afraid to make the big hits like Pronger, Weber, Lidstrom, etc. Not one defender on this team can follow through with a bone-crunching hit. Until that happens, this defense will be pretty weak. A good chunk of people are saying that the problem with this team is Mason. Well, that’s not true. Mason has kept us in every game he’s started and gave us numerous chances to win. The offense just came up small. This team has been built for 10 years ago. This team is a finesse team. In this day and ages NHL, your team needs to be smash mouth. You need to adjust as time goes on. We need hard-hitting players, that can also snipe it from the blue line. Until we make those adjusments, and get rid of Berube and Homer…..this team will never go very far. The media really makes this situation worse than it is. Yeah, they’re 3-8. Big deal. Pittsburgh is only 7-4. There is still time to turn the ship around. Were we expected to win the Cup this year? No! So, just sit back relax and enjoy the roller coaster of a season that we’re in for! As you can probably tell from this, I am a die-hard Flyers fan, and I’m proud of it. I stick by my team through thick and thin, unlike some Flyer fans who abandon ship when the first little thing goes wrong.

    • kingcobraman - Oct 30, 2013 at 12:59 PM

      so true , that’s how the rest of the people see it that are not blinded by the black and orange..

  10. earpaniac - Oct 30, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Even though I’m a Blackhawks fan, I’ve had a soft spot for the Flyers ever since I was a kid and heard about the legend of the “Broad Street Bullies”. I truly believe the Flyers are one of those teams that hockey is better when they are good. I do disagree with the above poster who says they have to be “smash mouth” to compete in the NHL, the prime example being the Blackhawks. On paper, there is no way they should be this bad. The one thing I thought was stupid if they thought the coach was as bad as they said, “worst training camp ever” etc, why not get rid of him sooner? If Berube, or any coach for that matter, was going to make a difference it was going to take at least a month. They basically wasted training camp and the first few games of the season. They are now that far behind other teams in prep time. I know the NHL season is long, but you can’t afford to dig that big of a whole. Their one advantage is at least the East doesn’t appear to be that strong this year. Good luck to the Flyers and their fans.

    • mcphillthy - Oct 30, 2013 at 1:18 PM

      Thanks man. We are gonna tough this one out. You are right about it taking a month before we see any real results happen. It’s hard to adjust to a new system but the talent is there. I don’t know why everyone is worried. The year we lost to Chicago we made the playoffs on the very last game of the season. Congrats on having such a solid team too. How does it feel to have a solid defense like that? I’m kind of jealous

  11. phillyphanatic77 - Oct 30, 2013 at 3:10 PM

    This was the first game all season (and it’s obviously been a dysmal season) where there’s no way this club should’ve lost. There’s no excuse, whatsoever. The Flyers had this game and exactly like Simmonds said, “they stopped playing”. During the 1st we were dominating one of the best teams in the league (record-wise anyway), take a 2-goal lead, and suddenly they started acting as if the final horn had sounded. Everytime the Flyers got possession (which was very little in the 3rd), they’d dump it into the Ducks zone and ONE single Flyer would chase; making it unbelievably easy for Anaheim to just sit back and slowly move up ice. If you’re gonna chip you have chase!!! You can’t send in one forechecker and expect him to control the puck with 2 or 3 Ducks around him! Where the eff was the support?? It was an embarrassment. And the Flyers continued this philosophy even after it was 2-1, then 2-2, and finally 2-3. Chief, how the hell are we supposed to get a victory when you’re watching the game slip away and you continue to coach as if you have a 5-goal advantage. Attack the puck!! Outnumber the defenders with your forecheckers; make sure you win the battles along the board. I thought Lavy was out there coaching with the lack of adjustments.

    And on the Ducks game winning goal, how exactly was there only one defender back and completely out of position?! All game long you had kept 3 or even 4 guys back instead of forechecking, and suddenly, with 4 minutes left in a 2-2 game you decide to leave no defensive security back (after doing it all game)!? It’s mind-boggling to me. This is a game the Flyers never, ever should’ve lost. Or atleast have gotten a point out of it. No question, this was the most frustrating point of the season for myself bc we lost a game we absolutely needed (and shouldve had) bc of poor coaching/strategy, lack of heart/energy, and a total disregard for individual responsibility.

    I’ve stuck by this team through their dreadful 1-7 start (and last seasons debacle) but I will not tolerate bs like I saw last night when my team, up 2-0, started playing as if they were up 5-0 with a minute to go in the 3rd, despite two periods remaining. It disgusted me.

    • patthehockeyfan - Oct 30, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      Take a deep breath, philly! Breathe in. Breathe out. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

      I understand you’re frustrated (and beyond frustrated). No need, though, to get your blood pressure skyrocketing.

      Remember – deep breaths.

  12. cantstandstupid - Oct 30, 2013 at 3:57 PM

    I really hope the other players read Simmers statement about just standing around and watching. I am a season ticket holder and these games are just pathetic to watch. They can’t win a face-off and something is clearly wrong with Giroux when he tries to take them. There’s no dig or power to win the puck and the wingers aren’t helping him by not crashing into the face-off circle to fight for the puck. They are just soft all around when it comes to wanting the puck more. Their last PP when Perry had the puck in the Flyers defensive zone and 3 Flyers were just standing around looking at him instead of plastering him into the boards and taking the puck back. At the end of the game when they were on the PP and pulled their goalie, they were completely out of position across the board and the Ducks cleared the puck without any issues even while being 2 men down on the PK. I can’t stand seeing Giroux with the puck on his stick along the half boards while on the PP too. All the defense has to do is press and double team him and he makes a bad pass or it gets taken from him. They need to have the PP being ran from the point and Streit seems able enough to do so, but they try to force feed the PP through Giroux for some reason. At one point when he had the puck, EVERY player just stood in their positions and didn’t even try to rotate or try to get open for him. It’s like they are saying to themselves “This is the spot where I stand in during practice, so even though I’m covered, this is my spot”. I watch a lot of hockey in general and the Flyers have the worst effort in game play that I’ve seen in a long time. If they tried hard and lost then so be it, but they clearly aren’t trying hard, so I guess that means Snider is going to start trading away pieces again. I really don’t understand why the Flyers have an offensive zone face off, but they put their 4th line in there. WTF are they going to do? I hate the Pens with passion so this is burned in my memory. If the Pens are home and have the last change and the Flyers have a defensive zone faceoff with their 4th line out on the ice, you can bet money that Malkin or Crosby is on the ice to take advantage of that. Are the players really that out of shape that they need to rest that much? If you are losing or are in a close game, the 4th liners shouldn’t see the ice besides giving someone a breather on one of the top 3 lines, but they shouldn’t see the ice as a group. Rosehill on the ice late in the game does the Flyers no good at all. I still have hope they can turn it around, but that hope is fading fast! At least I’ll save money not buying playoff tickets this year….

  13. earpaniac - Oct 30, 2013 at 6:06 PM

    @Mcphillthy Thanks. It is nice having that defense, where if the offense is struggling, you know the defense can shut people down. It’s one of the biggest reasons they are so good and what separates the Hawks from other elite teams. Some my have the forwards, but not the defense and vice-versa. However, we sucked for a LONG time lol to get this way now. We also had arguably the worst owner in sports for a long time as well. The Hawks aren’t Chicago’s top team, but their fans are probably the most passionate. Even with that, Dollar Bill just drove the fans away. His philosophy was just be good enough to get in the playoffs, but lose right away. That kept the fans coming, but didn’t cost him the money winning a Cup would. He wouldn’t put home games on tv, etc. it was so bad before he died I can remember some games with 1,000 people at them. I hope you guys never have to experience half of that! Lol
    But I think the Flyers will get this straightened out. You guys have too much talent, IMO, not too.

  14. jkaflagg - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Wow, you just can’t read a Flyers post without Richards and Carter being mentioned…..Flyers got great value for these guys with Simmonds, Schenn, Couturier & Voracek; they will eventually be core players on some very fine teams…..and long after Richards and Carter have passed from the scene. It stings that they won the Cup right after they left, but people need to get over it.

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