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Discuss: Penguins beat Bruins in East showdown

Oct 30, 2013, 10:45 PM EDT

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Winning a regular season game in October doesn’t erase the bitter taste of being swept in the playoffs, but it’s better than losing again. The Pittsburgh Penguins edged the Boston Bruins 3-2 on NBC SN Wednesday, so let’s discuss the contest and more.

  • Pittsburgh carried the shot advantage, but the Bruins generated a frantic finish, with Marc-Andre Fleruy being up to the task. “The Flower” isn’t just winning (ninth victory of the season), he’s also putting up pretty nice numbers. Is it time for stats people to take it easier on MAF? Could he even fight for a Vezina with other big-name goalies struggling? Or will the other guy in net (Tuukka Rask) have a better chance?
  • Many raved about the Penguins defense tonight. Can they carry that over into the postseason, when that part of their game has often floundered?
  • Should Team Canada bring Chris Kunitz along because of his chemistry with Sidney Crosby or go for the guys who are more talented/prominent?
  • Jarome Iginla scored his third goal and now has nine points in 11 games this season. How do you feel he fits in with the B’s?
  • Do you consider these teams the odds-on favorites in the East? If not, who would fit that bill?

  1. bmscalise - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:48 PM

    That game was as good as any game in October could be. Intense, physical, well-played by both team and goalies. And just really entertaining – what hockey should be.

    • dirt2013 - Oct 30, 2013 at 10:53 PM

      Well played indeed and fun to watch.

  2. Stiller43 - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    What a great game. There was some fire under both teams asses. Real good intensity

  3. ducksk - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Dear NBCSN. Great job on NHL coverage. Please get rid of the pompous butt Milberries. He is terrible, and a shame that is the best you can get. Can’t believe this clown still makes a living off the game.

    • rgotoguy - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:34 PM

      So true!! I switch channels every time Milbury get air time. Does he think real hockey fans have forgotten how terrible of a player/coach and GM (except those 2 seasons in Boston) he was? He has no hockey credibility with me. For anyone too young to know Google “Milbury gm islanders” His bias against certain teams is painfully obvious, and I can’t believe I’m saying this but It makes me glad Jones is there to balance things out at times. Anyone know when Milbury’s contract with NBC is up??

    • jpelle82 - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:05 AM

      yeah i make sure to dvr these nbcsn games and dont start watching until an hour or so after it starts so i can ff through all the milbury garbage during intermissions.

  4. ironyisadeadscene - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Awesome game to flip to in between innings. Iginla was intense against his former team.

  5. curioustraveler13 - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    That was one awesome hockey game. It was cool to see Iginla’s goal. What a rocket of a shot. That game had a playoff pace feel to it, with good clean hard hits. Tomorrow’s game for the bruins will be tough.

  6. LampyB - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:18 PM

    Surprised no talk of rask coughing it up late just like last game. So frustrating…

    • jpelle82 - Oct 31, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      yeah i wouldnt say that was his fault…blame that last one on seidenberg. turnover then he screened rask on the shot, did you see rask stare him down and shake his head after the goal…that was all on him. i felt a little bad for seidenberg, i like him as a player but he was getting absolutely punished on the forecheck…kunitz by himself mustve dropped him 3 times last night, twice in the 3rd period, just crushed him.

  7. killerpgh - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Probably the best game I watched so far this year. Kind of a shame (not really, congrats on the World Series) 99% of bruins fans probably missed it.

    • 8man - Oct 31, 2013 at 1:07 AM

      Yeah. Pretty much. If you look closely you’ll notice that the Bruins have had a game every night the Sox have had one during the World Series.

      NHL Network is rebroadcasting the game at 1pm tomorrow. I’ll watch it then. Celebrating wildly for the Sox and then donning the Bs gear for the winter.

  8. c1md6 - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Pens given every opportunity to win on the power play once again.

    • pens5829 - Oct 31, 2013 at 12:00 AM

      Yeah? You mean like that gift of an embellishment call on Letang???

    • c9castine - Oct 31, 2013 at 1:20 AM

      didn’t the bruins get the late power play that led to a goal to close the gap? didn’t the bruins have a power play on a terrible call on Letang until marchand blew their opportunity? doesn’t the Pens power play suck anyway? get the F outta here.

  9. live4hockey - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    I’m pretty sure the Pens were only on the power play twice…Bruins once. What are you even talking about??

  10. pitpenguinsrulez - Oct 30, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    @c1md6 is just mad that Giroux was called for diving last night. Seriously buddy quit crying and grow a pair!

  11. c9castine - Oct 31, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    chris kunitz pasted seidenberg into the wall twice i mean obliterated him. i don’t think seidenberg could feel his limbs after the first one let alone the second. he plays the game at break neck speed. he has excellent hands and is equally adept at passing and scoring. he plays all ends of the ice better than most players in the NHL and scores at a point per game pace. I’m sure there are some guys out there that might be flashier wingers for Crosby, but there isn’t a better one that Kunitz. In fact id say canada would be wise to take the whole line of kunitz-crosby-dupuis, but i don’t wanna push my luck. If they won’t do that, its gotta be Kunitz-Crosby-St. Louis. anybody who watches the Penguins play and the Crosby line play one a nightly basis knows why i put st. louis name there.

    • dropthepuckeh - Oct 31, 2013 at 8:59 AM

      Right and Letang is a Norris candidate the “flower” Vezina and obviously Crosby gets the Hart. They should all be on the Olympic team. Unless they want to win.

      • hockey412 - Oct 31, 2013 at 10:01 AM

        You’re really hurtin’ today, eh?

      • dropthepuckeh - Oct 31, 2013 at 10:14 AM

        No man – still basking in the glow of the WS win for the Sox. You should come to the parade this weekend. Boston has gotten really good at them.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 31, 2013 at 10:23 AM

        You know your on the losing end of an argument when you bring up another sport in a strictly hockey related forum. Take it over to hardballtalk.com and celebrate.

      • c9castine - Oct 31, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        who said that? not me. should have spent your time trying to explain to me why kunitz shouldn’t be on the team and not trying to be smart.

  12. hockeyflow33 - Oct 31, 2013 at 1:45 AM

    I love that not one Bruins regular posted on here yet haha. I feel like there may have been another game we were watching.

  13. jhaegs - Oct 31, 2013 at 2:11 AM

    Glad this game was in tonight. Got to watch these teams go at it, instead of watching my Cards get trounced. Oh well, is there any sport more exciting than hockey????

  14. Hockeyfan - Oct 31, 2013 at 6:06 AM

    This was a terrific game. But what was with Iginla all over Crosby? You saw him “talking” to Crosby after Crosby went hard to the goal and then mauled him later in the game behind the net. Is there bad blood there? Before the Crosby haters start their crap, wondered if anyone had any insight into that battle.

    • hockey412 - Oct 31, 2013 at 7:44 AM

      No bad blood whatsoever, those guys know the situation at all times, they may get emotional at times but for the most part have the big picture in mind at all times. Iginla had a golden opportunity in this game to gain the respect and the fans by “proving he’s one of them” (though I think any fan egocentric enough to say a HOF class act has to prove himself to them needs therapy). What better way to do that than to chirp it up with one of the most polarizing players in the league…so alleged “best” there is?

      Another example…notice that Crosby didn’t say too much to Iginla, yet Crosby went right after Krug – didn’t throw too many punches, just did enough to have them both sit for a couple. Why? To get Krug the eff OFF THE ICE. The kid was firing slapshots one after the other…good ones, too. Had to get him out of there. Big picture, all the time. That’s what separates Iginla and Crosby from many other players in the league that just have “talent”.

      • hockey412 - Oct 31, 2013 at 7:46 AM

        sorry I meant gain the respect “of” the fans.

      • bildomac07 - Oct 31, 2013 at 12:42 PM

        You had me until the Krug-Crosby trade off… There aren’t many guys in the league on Crosby’s level to warrant losing 87 and Krug is not one of those guys. Iggy went after him because he plays for the Bruins now and Crosby’s the best player in the world, you gotta get in his head, rough him up, make it hard for him. Once the game starts and the competitive fire starts up there’s no room for friendship and both of them understand that.

  15. matthews4 - Oct 31, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    Ok so I’am glad there is a replay on so it will show some of the open minded fans can see why Iggy or opposing players may have a problem with Crosby. Let’s see first the only time he acts like a tough guy is when it’s literally against who ever is the smallest guy on the opposing team. Krug and Giroux. It is funny how Lucic always seems to get that title(which is not true if you look at the size of the guys he has actually fought) but when Sid does it it’s all good. Speaking of which, brave Sid wanted no part of Lucic after he unnecessarily swiped at the puck covered by Rask after the whistle. Listen on the replay. As we all understand that’s something that will piss off the opposing team. The reason Iggy “mauled him” Sid was holding his stick which of course was not called. So remember all we heard when the Pens signed Iggy was what a class act he is, now he has taken issue with Crosby’s play after being on his team. At what point does it stop being everyone else but crybaby.

    • hockey412 - Oct 31, 2013 at 8:58 AM

      Somebody’s a joke this morning, isn’t he? I was at the game and didn’t see him trying to score (those damn hockey players…what foul beasts!) after the whistle, but I’m sure you saw better, eh? Crosby wasn’t trying to fight Krug, he just allowed Krug to take himself off the power play. He’ll fight anyone he needs to in order to get his team going, just doesn’t do stupid goon sh*t like Lucic and in last night’s case Thornton.

      Do you think maybe hockey’s not the sport for you?

      • dropthepuckeh - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:08 AM

        Congrats on going to the game. You get replay in your seat too? I’m guessing people watching on tv actually did see it better.

        Lucic is a first line winger who leads the team in scoring and will not back down from anyone when its needed. He also doesn’t whine constantly to the refs like your man-crush.

        Congrats on the October win. Boston is currently celebrating a meaningful October win – parade on Saturday.

        Also, you think Boston was broken up about taking Krug off the ice with Crosby? Isn’t Crosby the best in the game? Krug? You sound scared.

      • hockey412 - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:42 AM

        No, but there’s a much better real time view and then there’s a 40 foot by 40 foot replay screen that continually shows the replays. Also I went back and listened to the press conferences…didn’t hear one player, included Rask, crying about anything at all. There were Boston players crying all night long last night to the refs…ALL throughout the game. Got to be a joke. When the B’s are outhit (and they were really outhit) they whine a lot, at least that’s how it looked to me. Then I got on here and their fans were whining too. Weird.

        Crosby was at the end of a penalty kill and was going off the ice anyway. Krug had just fired about 4 from the blue line. None got through, but they were good…4 on 4 doesn’t hurt the pens.

      • steelpenbucs87 - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:40 AM

        Well there’s no sense in comparing Lucic and Crosby… apples and oranges…. actually apples and refrigerators really.

        The fact of the matter is what Crosby did last night is pretty common. You saw Chara take an extra couple of swipes at Fleury when he was trying to cover the puck. It’s par for the course frankly – watch any game and you’ll see it two or three times. It’s ALSO par for the course for the Defense (and in the case of Rask, the goalie himself) to take umbrage and to get physical with the guy after the whistle…. It happens literally every single game multiple times with superstars, and scrubs alike.

        Look I think Crosby did himself no favors in his early years in the league – he dove, he would steer clear of any physical contact, etc. But the fact of the matter is no one on the Penguins is going to LET Crosby get into serious scrapes anymore, and nor should he – he’s the best player in the world who has had serious issues with concussions. Everyone in Black and Gold knows that their best chance to win is with him on the ice so anyone who tries to grab hold of him they’re going to try to separate.

        Lucic on the other hand is an absolute monster and he can do damage with his hands on the scoreboard as well as the body… so from Boston’s perspective there’s no reason to risk a third-man in penalty to protect him because frankly he doesn’t need it. That’s a compliment of Lucic to be certain, but not necessarily an indictment of Crosby.

        Regardless this was as awesome as a game in October could be.

      • bildomac07 - Oct 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM

        SteelPensBucs nailed it right on the head, well done sir.

    • c9castine - Oct 31, 2013 at 3:47 PM

      surprised you don’t remember crosby getting into the face of the tallest player in NHL history….NBC only showed it to you 700 times. sure sid poked at rask a little bit but why would he fight lucic over it? lucic may need to yell at people to feel like he’s battling and tough, sid doesn’t. iggy and sid were just playing hockey. period.

      is there another point you’d like to make?

  16. joey4id - Oct 31, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Crosby shouldn’t be getting involved in stuff like he did with Krug. Completely irrelevant to the play, and in no way helps the team. This type of behavior was attributed to his young age in the past, but not anymore. He’s been around long enough to stop acting like a punk. He’s got to stop that stuff before someone pops him one in the head because we all know he’s very much susceptible to concussions. Useless punk behavior has to go….

    • Hockeyfan - Oct 31, 2013 at 4:39 PM

      Gotta agree with you….it does nothing for the team and nothing for Crosby himself. Frankly with that level of talent, it is a waste of energy. He should put ALL effort into his skilled plays.

  17. earpaniac - Oct 31, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    I don’t think the questions about MAF can even be answered until the playoffs. The regular season doesn’t mean that much after what happened to him in the playoffs last year.

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