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Scott’s disciplinary hearing set for Oct. 31

Oct 25, 2013, 5:40 PM EST

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Buffalo forward John Scott will learn of his punishment for a headshot on Loui Eriksson next Thursday.

Scott, suspended indefinitely until his in-person hearing with the NHL’s Department of Player Safety, will miss three games — tonight vs. Florida, Saturday vs. Tampa Bay and Monday vs. Dallas — before his hearing on Oct. 31, according to the Toronto Star.

Barring an incredible turn of events, he’ll also miss that evening’s game against the Rangers as well.

(Yes, the Sabres will be in New York on the day of Scott’s hearing.)

Scott, 31, has no previous record of discipline with the league and won’t be treated as a repeat offender under CBA definitions. There is a chance, however, that his history — most notably in a preseason melee with the Maple Leafs in which he tried to fight Phil Kessel — could be taken into account when assessing punishment.

On Thursday, Scott tried to defend himself and his reputation.

“I don’t think I’m a dirty player,” he told Buffalo Hockey Beat. “I try to play within the code, within the rules. This is my first suspension. I don’t think I’m dirty. I don’t try to be a dirty player. I kind of feel really upset.

“I was sick to my stomach last night knowing what happened watching the video [of the Eriksson hit]. I just kind of regret the whole situation. I don’t want to be a dirty player.”

Eriksson, who suffered a concussion on the play, has returned to Boston and is out indefinitely.

  1. broadstreetbeatdown - Oct 25, 2013 at 5:57 PM

    Not a dirty hit at all. Just a hit that is not allowed anymore.

  2. pi2000 - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:00 PM

    He kept his elbow down, it’s just that Eriksson was hunched over so his head was out front and was the same height as Scott’s ankles.

    • stakex - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

      Such rational arguments have no place in the discussion about big hits. There was a big hit and someone was hurt on the play….. OBVIOUSLY the hit was dirty.

      In fairness, while the hit itself isn’t this predatory attack that some have made it out to be… it was late. A late hit that results in injury is just as suspendable.

  3. shortsxit34 - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    Virtually the entire hockey community has said this is a dirty hit. Good on Scott for owning up to how disgusting his actions were, but words don’t change what happened.

  4. spitfisher - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:15 PM

    This sort of hit, blind sided, with an elbow or fore arm to the jaw and head, often results in a concussion, it also ends careers for some, is totally unnecessary. This has been discussed at the league, team and player level and yet it continues. Suspensions have been handed out, suspensions have been increased. Players continue to suffer.

    Well Shanny here is your chance to set an example to rid it once and for all. My suggestion is suspend Scott for 25 games or however long the player is unable to play and/or have symptoms- which ever is longer! Next suspend the coach for putting that goon on the ice for 5 games, 25 games for the second offense. Obviously the buffalo coach had no interest in winning that game putting Scott of the ice.

    Hockey does not need this sort of violent hit and does not need players like Scott and some others.

    Do the right thing Shanny!

    • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:52 PM

      Whatever peoples’ opinion on this incident, Scott has not been suspended before, so 25 is way out of question. I’d guess 1 MAYBE 2.

  5. sabatimus - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:50 PM

    Is Michael Myers going to be at that meeting to make sure Shanny doesn’t wuss out?

  6. travishenryskid - Oct 25, 2013 at 6:58 PM

    So Scott gets three games before ever getting a hearing, yet Chara doesn’t even get a phone call from the league? Year in and year out, this happens with the Bruins. Each time, we say it’s ok because Chara isn’t a repeat offender, and that’s because each time they fail to take action against him. It’s completely embarrassing for the league.

    • broadstreetbeatdown - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:04 PM

      Exactly, repeat offender, Chara intentionally hit Wingels along the boards, high with an elbow and took his head off. No penalty, no hearing, no supplemental discipline. Scott hits Eriksson in the open ice, elbows down with his bicep and gets 3 games off the bat. Another case of showing favoritism to superstars and not judging act on the ice.

      • lordstanley65 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:27 PM

        That was a pretty stupid comment.

    • matt14gg - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:11 PM

      No team has suffered more from head shots than the Bruins. And the Bruins have been disciplined just as much, if not more, than most teams in the league and if you don’t think so you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about. The only thing that is embarrassing is people trying to turn a fairly routine hit, where a player got hurt, into a dirty play, not because they care about the sanctity and safety of the game, but because they don’t like the Bruins, or Chara. All you people calling out the Bruins and saying they somehow get special treatment from the league are FOS.

      Example: Matt Cooke put Marc Savard’s career into a tailspin and Bruins fans were furious cuz it was a dirty hit and he wasn’t disciplined. Matt Hunwick ended Savard’s career and Bruins fans weren’t upset at all. The difference: One was a dirty hit, the other was an unfortunate hockey play. Savard’s head was hit by Hunwick but, much like Tommy Wingels, Savard put himself in a bad spot and took an unintentional headshot. Tough play and very unfortunate, but no one blamed Hunwick and no one was angry that the league didn’t discipline him. If it was Montreal they would have sent the RCMP after him.

      Three years ago Ray Sawada was coming across the middle and got drilled by Daniel Paille (one of the cleanest players in the league BTW) and Paille caught him with a big head shot. The aftermath: Paillle’s hit was condemned by his coach and his own teammates. He manned up, served his suspension, and has since been one of the least penalized players in the league. Milan Lucic was suspended for a hit two years ago against Zac Rinaldo that even Rinaldo said didn’t deserve a suspension. When Marchand went low on Sammie Salo a couple years ago he was suspended for five games and the Bruins didn’t appeal it, because it was a dirty play. It was also the same hit that Keith Ballard has been getting away with for years. It was fine that Marchand got suspended, but it was nauseating that the Canucks would act so appalled when their own player had been low bridging and going at guys’ knees for years.

      People who claim the Bruins get special treatment because Gregory Campbell is on the team are clueless. Colin Campbell has NOTHING TO DO WITH league discipline. NOTHING. His job is basically a sinecure for a lifetime of service. Should Campbell not be allowed to play in the league because his dad works in the league office? The Bruins have had numerous suspensions, including Marchand and Lucic and Ference, etc and have NEVER been “protected” by the league.

      The truth is, whether people want to believe it or not, Chara is one of the most respected players in the league by his peers. The Bruins have numerous guys that are held in extremely high regard around the league (Chara, Bergeron, Seidenberg, Thornton, Rask, Campbell, Kelly, Krejci. Lucic, Boychuk, McQuaid, etc.). That doesn’t mean they don’t play tough and occasionally cross the line, but for the most part they are the epitome of the right way to play the game.

      They also know when to toughen up and when to lighten up. When John Scott decided to go after Loui Eriksson the Bruins could have gone after the Sabres stars (yes they have a couple), but they didn’t. They could have turned it into a gong show, but they understood that Scott is an outlier and they weren’t going to make Vanek and Hodgson and Stafford, etc. pay for Scott’s stupidity, even though they could have.

      The trouble with this story and many like it (the Pouliot hit comes to mind) is that “Fans” want to claim they care about player safety, but all they really care about is ripping a player and a team they don’t like. The Chara hit wasn’t reviewed because it wasn’t a suspendable hit. Every team’s fans have had frustrations with plays that don’t get reviewed. The Raffi Torres hit on Andrew Ference is one of many that have happened to the Bruins that wasn’t reviewed. Fine, move on.

      The league has done a lot to improve player safety, but there’s only so much you can do. Hockey is meant to be a safer game, but it will NEVER be a completely safe game. It’s still meant to be played in a tough way by tough guys. It’s the fans’ job to cheer for their team, but is also a fan’s job to actually know the game and understand what is going on. It’s the fans job to be honest with their own team, and with other teams, even if it goes against the team you are rooting for. It’s crucial for the league to get a handle on predatory hits, but it is counterproductive to cry wolf when you don’t like the fact that your guy got hurt. That is a far bigger problem because it trivializes the truly dirty plays, and players, that need to be addressed and dealt with.

      • billsin20xx - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:37 PM

        Good post but how can anyone justify them not punishing Chara for that hit? NO EXCUSES FOR IT!

      • lordstanley65 - Oct 25, 2013 at 11:26 PM

        Excellent. Simply excellent, Matt. Thank you.

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      • matt14gg - Oct 26, 2013 at 7:31 AM

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      • matt14gg - Oct 26, 2013 at 7:40 AM

        “Thumbs up me”…Really? You should stick to latin.

      • mp1131211 - Oct 26, 2013 at 5:15 PM

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  7. bflocj - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:23 PM

    All is well as long as dicipline gets handed out to Buffalo right. Where was your sweetheart Shanny when cheap shot Lucic lays out Miller. Keep making an “example” out of the Sabres Shanny, clearly you have your favorites. Scott, Kaleta and the whole team would probably be banned if one of your precious Redwings got their clock cleaned. Shanahan asked for every one of the hits, clean or cheap that come from the Sabres. And as far as fist spitter is concerned with your comments about violent hits in hockey, I’m sure your still standing up and chearing, with the rest of the hypocrites who think the game is too violent when you see a hockey fight or your team lays someone out. Whatever, suspend em’ all, make the Sabres the bad guy on National TV’s big “Rivalry Night”, odd that they have so many National TV games in a rebuilding year, isn’t it? Milbury must need a scapegoat to make himself look better while he is busy abusing youth hockey players that are out playing his son. I guess the Sabres and their fans will be crying all the way to the first pick in the draft.

    • thesportsjudge - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:50 PM

      It wasn’t Shanahans job during the Lucic/Miller incident.

  8. golfsox78 - Oct 25, 2013 at 7:56 PM

    I don’t think Scott is a dirty player. But that was a nasty illegal hit. Yes he is a “goon” but he doesn’t seem like a malicious player. However, if the NHL wants to stop this they need to get tough. And to everyone saying Bruins players don’t get suspended do your home work before you make a comment.

  9. peterjohnjoseph - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:56 PM

    Guys, guys.. whether you agree with the hit or not, this guy will of missed 9:00 minutes of ice time by the October 31st..

  10. broadstreetbeatdown - Oct 25, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Next time Eriksson should keep his head up instead of admiring his pass. Scott Stevens made a career with the same exact hit John Scott dished out. Just ask the Big E, Francis, Kapanen, Kariya and many many more.

    • matt14gg - Oct 25, 2013 at 9:11 PM

      You’re right, but it’s a different time and a different place. You just can’t do it anymore. If you want a good example of how the game (and perception) has changed watch Brian Campbell’s hit on RJ Umberger from a few years back. Forget what you think about the hit personally, but just watch the hit and Rick Jenrette’s reaction. Today the announcers would act offended by that hit, yet at the time it was celebrated. Jenrette sounded like he just won the lottery. Today not only would the hit earn Campbell a suspension, but Jenrette would probably be fired for his “insensitive” reaction. You’re absolutely right, a whole generation of players is learning to play the game with their heads down, because they think the rules will protect them and that is one of the reasons more players are getting hurt.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Oct 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM

        Mandatory visors, hybrid icing, no more open ice shoulder checks, stupid fighting and instigator rules involving helmets and such. Soon it will be boring Euro hockey.

      • matt14gg - Oct 25, 2013 at 9:53 PM

        And then they are going to wonder where all the fans went.

      • mp1131211 - Oct 26, 2013 at 12:27 AM

        Show me one hit that is similar to that hit on Umberger that received a suspension. That was clean, hard, and completely legal back then and would still be today.

  11. jrs1972 - Oct 26, 2013 at 3:18 AM

    They should be out the exact same amount of games as the player they took out ends up being out.

  12. travishenryskid - Oct 26, 2013 at 8:45 AM

    Chara on Max Pac, Lucic on Miller, Chara on Wingles, etc. the list is much longer. Yes, the league does have special rules for Boston. You wouldn’t see it with your homer glasses on though.

  13. nhstateline - Oct 26, 2013 at 9:20 AM

    Cooke on Savard, Scott on Erikkson…it’s pretty easy to throw names and incidents out there but your point falls apart upon closer inspection. If Montreal had modified its board design before that Pacioretty incident then nothing would have happened to him. Case in point, the same hit happened earlier that week in a game in Pittsburgh that had the curved design and what happened to the guy who run into the stanchion ? Not much. That was a building design issue that’s been fixed in most places.

    As for John Scott, what’s in the CBA is what’s going to decide this. He’s a first time offender meaning that he probably only gets five games. If he gets more than that then this story will drag on until it finally gets to arbitration.

    • travishenryskid - Oct 26, 2013 at 10:25 AM

      Cooke on Savard was before the league was handing out suspensions for these things, and Scott is getting the book thrown at him, so yes, I can throw out names, but when you do, it just furthers my point.

  14. nhstateline - Oct 26, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    and then he’ll get five games from the arbiter.

  15. nhstateline - Oct 28, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Scott’s not getting the book thrown at him. What’s in the CBA is ultimately going to decide this. Five games if I had to guess. Loui Erikkson is out for well…nobody knows how long because of what Mr. Scott did as part of his “job”. That’s the real inequity in this. Mr. Scott’s return should depend on how long Mr. Erikkson can’t play and this should be true in all similar cases. That will stop all this in its tracks.

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