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Video: Is hybrid icing to blame for Hurricanes game-winning goal against Leafs?

Oct 17, 2013, 11:26 PM EDT

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The Toronto Maple Leafs lost in peculiar fashion Thursday night.

With just under seven minutes remaining in the third period of Thursday’s game against Carolina, Hurricanes defenseman Ron Hainsey went to make a pass up ice, however he missed his intended target. As the puck slid into the Leafs’ end, linesman Don Henderson waved off the icing call (as some of you have pointed out, the Hurricanes forward appeared ahead of the Leafs defenseman at the faceoff dots).

The puck somehow found its way into the net, much to the surprise of Toronto netminder Jonathan Bernier.

“It puts more onus on refs. It makes their job tougher (and) we have to understand that. There will be calls like that,” said Leafs defenseman Cody Franson, as per Mark Masters of TSN.

From, here is an interpretation of the new rule:

Once the Linesman determines that the puck will cross the goal line, icing is completed upon the determination as to which player (attacking or defending) would first touch the puck. This decision by the Linesman will be made the instant the first player reaches the end zone face-off dots with the player’s skate being the determining factor.

The topic of hybrid icing has brought about plenty of discussion; it was implemented for the pre-season and then approved for the beginning of the regular season.

Below are some of the conflicting opinions from earlier in the exhibition schedule:

Washington Capitals forward Jason Chimera: “I hate it.”

L.A. Kings head coach Darryl Sutter: “The [old] rule’s fine…I don’t know why, quite honest, why we…change it. The rule’s fine. I know everybody thinks, they say, ‘Oh, this guy got hurt,’ or ‘this guy got hurt.’ You can count on one hand how many in the last five years. The players are very respectful of the rule now. We keep wanting to put rules in just because somebody wants to say, ‘I made this rule. It was my rule.’ I’m not for that at all.”

Senators defenseman Marc Methot: “I know it’s going to be hard for linesmen because they have to make a lot of judgment calls and I’m sure they’re going to take a lot of heat from coaches, but that’s the game. And if you can protect the players as far as I’m concerned you’re making the right call.”

  1. chibimike - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:12 AM


  2. Anoesis - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    A bad bounce off the boards that gets by the goaltender and had nothing to do with icing? What am I missing here?

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:17 AM

      That would have made the blooper reels when Foster Hewitt was reading them over the radio 80 years ago. Hybrid icing’s fault? F*** off. That was just a total team collapse with a bizarre exclamation point.

      • sunderlanding - Oct 18, 2013 at 3:34 PM

        It wasn’t a team collapse. The power play goal was a deflection, and the other one was a nice shot. The Leafs played ok this was just a bad goal.

  3. stinkpretty1 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:14 AM

    wellllll….even with the previous icing rule, it would have been a goal as no defensemen touched it prior to entering the net. It was a flop.

  4. sjsharks66 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:23 AM

    Nothing to do with hybrid icing. Bad bounce. I guess he thought since it passed the line it would have been blown down. Still goalies should be in position and covering the net at all times until the whistle is blown.

    • withseidelinn - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      Exactly, but the ref thought the Carolina player would have beat out the call I guess. Crappy way to decide a game

    • greenmtnboy31 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:49 PM

      Entirely to do with hybrid icing.

      That’s why the linesman was waving it off.

      The bad bounce just compounded it and highlighted Bernier’s brainfart.

  5. fantasyhockeyinformation - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:43 AM

    As a fan, I didn’t think about how the game would change. This may appear to fix some of the dangerous situations where a forechecking player hurts a defensemen, but what I didn’t think about was the danger on the flip side, the forward wins the race and the defenseman hurts the forward. I don’t think that hybrid icing has been a tremendous success and as a fan I miss the old rule.

  6. Lupy Nazty Philthy - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:13 AM

    Don’t blame the new icing rule… blame the dmen for not following the rule and hustling to the dot to get the icing call… AND… the goalie for misplaying it. Just a bad play by Toronto. Learn from it and move on.

  7. sharksfan754 - Oct 18, 2013 at 1:52 AM

    Ya that arrogant egotistical jerk Hybrid came up with this rule and now every time this new rule is called we curse his name! …..What’s that? Hybrid is a word thats been around since Latin was still spoken? But Darryl Sutter said….

  8. Stiller43 - Oct 18, 2013 at 7:24 AM

    I didnt see much of the game, but i did see j staal have a breakaway and whiff on the shot…that coulda been a goal…

    Control the things you can, calls will usually always even themselves out

  9. heynyc61 - Oct 18, 2013 at 8:47 AM

    In any sport, you keep playing until u hear the whistle

  10. rdurk86 - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:27 AM

    Here’s an idea, you might want to hug the post, or maybe play the puck like any NHL goalie would, especially if you use your eyes and see that it’s 50/50 at best, and the Phoenix forward will probably beat out the Leafs D. Absolutely nothing controversial here.

  11. mclovinhockey - Oct 18, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    If they would have called it icing then it would have been a bad goal, a shot on net can not be icing. I miss the old rule with the crease, if the puck goes through it it should be called off. This was a goal. Refs got it right.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:26 PM

      It wasn’t a shot on goal or even through the crease. It was wide, bounced off the boards, hit Bernier’s stick and skate and then slid across the goal line into the net, finally becoming a shot on goal thanks to the goalie. Foot/leg on the post and alert goalie = no goal. And it would also have been a goal under the old icing rules. Only under the NCAA automatic icing rule would it not have been a goal.

  12. hockeydon10 - Oct 18, 2013 at 10:20 AM

    If it was under the old icing rule, good goal. No defenseman touched it before the goalie did. Once the goalie touched it icing would have been waved off. Once the goalie deflected it into his own goal, it would have counted.

    Under the new icing rule, good goal. The Canes player made the face-off dot first, negating icing. Then the puck deflected off the goalie and in. Goal counts.

  13. fcfpal - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:38 PM

    The only issue I have is in the application of the rule. The linesman at centre ice had his arm up in the air signalling icing (as he should) and he was the linesman within the line of sight for Bernier on the play. The linesman who (correctly) calls off the icing doesn’t start to make the call with his arms until the puck is crossing the line. If the play is going to be icing as Bernier assumes then he has no need to play the puck. Under the old icing rules if a call was going to be waved off the lineman would have signaled much earlier that there was no icing as well as usually yelling it out (I don’t think he had time to yell in this instance) so Bernier would have been prepared to play the puck.

    All that being said the correct calls were made and the onus is on Bernier to play the puck until he hears the whistle so it is a good call (albeit a tough one for this Leafs fan). I just wish they would adopt no touch icing like they do everywhere else.

  14. bleedingteal4life - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:55 PM

    Hybrid icing is to blame for a lot of things

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Oct 18, 2013 at 2:29 PM

      Absolutely Teal, starting with the Lincoln assassination. I’ll post my related video later.

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