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BREAKING: Flyers could use a win tonight

Oct 17, 2013, 11:44 AM EDT

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The Philadelphia Flyers are off to a nightmare start in 2013-14. They’re 1-6-0, dead last in the NHL with just two points. They’ve already fired their coach. They can’t score. And they can’t defend very well either.

But on the bright side, it’s only been seven games, leaving 75 contests to get back into a playoff position.

The beginning of the rest of the Flyers’ season starts tonight against the visiting Pittsburgh Penguins, who just happen to be their biggest rivals.

“The main thing is that we’ve got to get a win here,” veteran defenseman Kimmo Timonen said, per “It doesn’t matter if it’s the Penguins or Rangers or Columbus. We need the game, to get two points. To me, we’re right there. But it’s a business of winning games, and we’re not there.”

The Flyers lost a tough one Tuesday at home versus Vancouver when they took a 2-1 lead into the third period only to surrender a pair of Canucks goals, the decider with just 2:25 remaining.

A quirk in Philadelphia’s schedule means a full six days off before the Flyers’ next game. A win over the Pens would at least provide some optimism to take into that stretch. Another loss, however, and it’ll be an especially long wait until Thursday versus the Rangers.

  1. kastout11 - Oct 17, 2013 at 11:59 AM

    Flyers “could use a win tonight”. They have been terrible so far through seven games, although, they were in all but one of them. Even though they have six days off after this game, they need a win tonight. I hate the stinking Penguins. Hopefully Chief can get their special teams where they need to be to start winning games. This six days between games could be just what the Flyers need to right the ship.

    • mcphillthy - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      I agree. A week of intense practices with the chief could be exactly what they need. But a win tonight would definitely be a plus.

    • c9castine - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      oh thats so cute you guys have a nick name for your coach like that. dbags. id like to say the flyers suck (which they do) and the and the pens are gonna wipe the floor with them, which is a possibility. but i have been around too long for that….anything could happen in this game.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Oct 17, 2013 at 1:56 PM

        Ah you say you’ve been around for so long yet have never heard Berube’s moniker “Chief” bc he’s part native American? He only played for two decades in the NHL under the name. I guess the late 90s early 2000s are too ancient for this “old” Pens fan.

        2008 sounds about right to me.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Please forgive him phillyphantic77 he should know the nickname of a career 3rd/4th liner with over 1,000 NHL games played and only 159 points. How dare he forget such a monumental player. When they erect his statue maybe he’ll remember.

      • sheckyrimshot - Oct 17, 2013 at 4:26 PM

        dan bylsmegma. there you go. now your coach has a cute nickname too.

      • phillyphanatic77 - Oct 18, 2013 at 12:42 PM

        It’s not common knowledge but if you’re going to make an insult over the coaches nickname atleast have the tiniest familiarity with it before doing so. And it’s a great indicator of how Pens fans didn’t exist until after Craig Berube retired, otherwise they’d know him (and his nickname) from his Flyers days.

  2. mcphillthy - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Let’s get the win tonight then have the week off to adjust some more to chief’s system. Go flyers! They’ll turn it around before long

  3. crazemastercraze - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    And in other news, Flyers fans think this years team will win the cup sweeping all teams in every round of the playoffs

    • youvebeenphaneufed - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      You, sir, are are idiot.

    • ibieiniid - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:10 PM

      It’d be cool if you could quote at least one of us saying that. There’s plenty of documented Flyers talk on this site to copy/paste…. but that’s something you won’t find.

      Theoretical situations are fun.

  4. hockey412 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:06 PM

    Technically I think their biggest rival is themselves so far, but I can’t wait for tonight. A game with the Pens could be just what the Flyers need, or it could be another shot in the pride. I fully expect this to be good.

    • orangandblack - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:43 PM

      I respectfully disagree. A game against the Pens is the LAST thing this team needs right now. I hope you prove to be right, but I’m not as optimistic as you.

  5. curioustraveler13 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    I talk a lot of smack on here and make fun of this organization regularly, but good luck tonight to all the flyer fans out there reading this. This game will be good regardless of either teams record going in. I hope both teams come out of it without injuries, and lets not blame the refs regardless what happens. Its a great day for hockey. Go Pens!

  6. girouxed - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:08 PM

    Im going to be there screaming my head off either way win or loose. Havent been this excited for a game in a while

  7. whiskytango333 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:11 PM

    I know its only October, but Im going to say tonight is one of those “must-win” games for the Flyers. They need something, anything really, to get a jumpstart and in gear. What a better opportunity than at home against the Penguins. Conversely, if the Pens steamroll them tonight, its going to be a long, long week of hysteria and panic from Philly until they get on the ice again.

  8. antmel30 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    I am excited for this great rivalry. This is a big gm for both teams more on flyers. I am a flyers fan but hopefully they win and gain confidence. I hope it’s close and competitive good luck to both teams. Let’s go flyers !

  9. barkar942 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:42 PM

    AAAH! I am so relieved to see that Pennsylvania Hockey Talk has returned!
    dbags, suck, idiot. Let’s see how many more of the nasty words can be used in this comment section. (It would really be great if they hadn’t banned BeerCanSid boy from the site. You guys here at RHT did ban him, right?)
    On another note, with the Rangers playing as poorly as they have, and they shut out Washington last night, does that say how bad Washington really is?

    • jpelle82 - Oct 17, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      lundquist could have very well turned his poor start around the other night when he came in for biron against the blues. then he puts up a shutout last night and shut the door on the caps pp unit. some confidence to be gained there for sure, for the whole team. the caps however look terrible 5 on 5 and will have a long season ahead of them if they cant get competitive there. not a single guy on the team is a + player right now…in fact, the best 5 on 5 guy on the team is grabovski (geez) and he’s at 0 in the +/- column. ovechkin -5, green – 5, backstrom -4. not good. of their combined 21 pts, 15 of those points are pp points. not gonna cut it, especially in close games, rivalry games, and late in games where the refs are swallowing their whistles.

  10. sjsharks66 - Oct 17, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    I don’t think the Flyers win tonight. Rivalries and dislike of teams put aside. I don’t think they have enough offense to compete with Pitts. They also do not have the defensive ability to stop Pitts offense.

    I just do not see them winning tonight. That may not be that bad. If they start the week with a fire of consistent losing their practices will be even more intense. Losing tonight could be the fuel to the fire.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:03 PM

      What a surprise? A Pens fan picking the Pens! I disagree… this is a complete stab in the dark but I think it’s the game that turns it all around for the Flyers. Or maybe they get embarrassed 5-1, either way Steve Mason better get the start… he’s been awesome.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        man I really hope what happened to Bryz last year doesn’t happen to Mason this year. Remember how great Bryz looked to start last season? 10 games in, he was mentally back in Russia. Hoping Mason’s stronger than Bryz.

  11. jpelle82 - Oct 17, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    a win before a break goes a long way. then again, knowing you have a long break coming up and probably some personal time mixed in there, you gotta wonder if the motivation will really be there tonight. personally, if i’ve got a long weekend coming up i’ve cleared my schedule that friday and am watching the clock…

    • mcphillthy - Oct 17, 2013 at 1:46 PM

      Unfortunately I agree. Today is their Friday. Without much to play for I really hope they show up tonight

  12. hockeygod2893 - Oct 17, 2013 at 1:54 PM

    Flyers need a win is more like it. Three keys for them:

    1. Mason has to continue playing the way he has. He’s been only bright spot this season and against the Pens he will need to be on top of his game, especially since Crosby always plays his best against Philly.

    2. Special teams. Flyers PP and PK has been terrible in Philly so far. They need to limit their penalties like they did against Vancouver or else Pitt will bury them. The power play has to come through tonight too. If this game looks like other Flyers-Pens games, they should get some chances.

    3. Play a full 60 minutes. They’ve been outscored 10-2 in the 3rd so far this season. They look like they’re afraid to play late as if they are all scared of messing up. They must be aggressive in the third and play the game all the way through. Late game meltdowns are killing them.

  13. pitpenguinsrulez - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:14 PM

    In the Sidney Crosby Era both teams have 35 wins a piece which includes regular season & playoff victories. Sure the Flyers own the overall record but in the Crosby Era it’s even.
    25 regular season wins: Philly
    22 regular season wins: Pittsburgh

    7 playoff wins: Philly
    10 playoff wins: Pittsburgh

    2-1 Series wins for the Penguins


    • hockeygod2893 - Oct 17, 2013 at 2:20 PM

      Interesting stats. I’m just going to flip a coin then to determine who wins tonight.

      Heads= Flyers win
      Tails= Penguins win

      And the flip….

      Heads!! Flyers win tonight.

      • hockeygod2893 - Oct 17, 2013 at 10:21 PM

        My quarter lied to me unfortunately.

  14. nj666 - Oct 17, 2013 at 3:12 PM

    the winless devils need a win more.

  15. killerpgh - Oct 17, 2013 at 3:36 PM

    Look like with the all the penguin’s injuries up front (Neal, Bennett, Jeffery, D’Agostini) defenseman Engelland might be used as a 4th line winger tonight.

  16. dirt2013 - Oct 17, 2013 at 3:59 PM

    Not all bad news Philly at least the Flyers are in line for a top pick.Maybe they could draft a player like Sid.

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