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‘Stop taking stupid penalties’ is part of the plan for Philly

Oct 15, 2013, 2:46 PM EDT

Wayne Simmonds about to hit Zbynek Michalek Getty Images

One thing to watch for during tonight’s Flyers game?


Actually, let’s put that into capital letters, just to get the point across.


“Stop taking stupid penalties,” Philadelphia forward Wayne Simmonds said, per

“It’s stuff we can control ourselves. It’s not like they’re roughs, coincidentals. They’re stick infractions like hooks, high sticks. We can be in control of our sticks. We have to be. You can’t be in the penalty box half the game and expect to win.”

The Flyers have been shorthanded an NHL-high 33 times this season. Along the way, they’ve surrendered seven power-play goals, including three on Saturday to the Red Wings.

The Detroit game caused new head coach Craig Berube to make a proclamation of sorts.

“We have to stop taking penalties,” Berube said. “It’s been an issue in this organization for too long. It’s got to get better.”

Worth noting: the Flyers’ opponent tonight, Vancouver, has enjoyed just seven power plays in its last four games. So if there’s a team to stop taking penalties against, it may be the Canucks.


Per CSN Philly, here’s Canucks tough guy, and former Flyer, Tom Sestito talking about Philly’s discipline issues:

“They’ve always had a problem there. I thought they had Reno [Zac Rinaldo] on a short leash, but I guess he is off the leash right now. I feel like that has always been a problem in Philly.

“I don’t know if it’s their reputation or not. But we had a problem when I was there because we were always going on the penalty kill. Which is tough for everybody. Your bottom guys aren’t getting any minutes because it’s all penalty kill and power play.

“You’re not going to win many games when you are always on the penalty kill, even if you have a great penalty kill. It wears guys out.”

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  1. ibieiniid - Oct 15, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    betcha $10 curioustraveler talks some Rinaldo sh** on this post.

    (but probably won’t now just to make me lose $10)

    • curioustraveler13 - Oct 15, 2013 at 3:45 PM

      Haha I don’t have to. The article speaks for itself, and a former teammate called him out in the article. 330 penalty minutes in 108 games. Now that’s a high quality forward. 3 times the amount of penalties as games played. He is on the STARTING roster. It took 3 forwards going down to injury before the pens recalled Harry Z who has 71 penalty minutes in 44 games.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 15, 2013 at 3:49 PM

        “Haha I don’t have to.”

        i stopped there. you spew the same sh** about Rinaldo every time when you clearly don’t watch the Flyers.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:03 PM

        I do watch the flyer games. Hits don’t equal goals. Skilled forwards win you games. Forwards with discipline issues who bring energy lose games more then they help win. Stats don’t lie. Talbot is perfectly qualified to be the energy type bottom player who hits. What does Rinaldo offer that he doesn’t. Anymore then 1 of those type of forwards on your roster is a waste. But what do I know the flyers have what 6 goals on 6 games. MORE RINALDO!

      • ibieiniid - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:19 PM

        oh, so you watch Flyer games and somehow still think Talbot is a hitter? he has 5 freaking hits this year to Rinaldo’s 26. he had only 57 in 35 last year. he’s not anywhere near the top of our hitters.

        I’m sorry, but 4th line scoring is not what’s dragging the Flyers down. now if you could kindly stfu and stick to commenting on things that you know about.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM

        He was a hitter when he played for the pens. I said he can fill that role, not that he is serving that role now. Why Would he actively look to hit now with as team full of Rinaldo, rosehill, and Newbury. Learn to read. The 4th line isn’t bringing this team down your right. Not having enough goal scorer’s and too many checking forwards is hurting this team. Don’t be mad at me that your GM can’t put a competitive team on the ice.

  2. pitpenguinsrulez - Oct 15, 2013 at 3:19 PM

    We talkin about penalties, not the power plays , we talkin about PENALTIES!!

  3. DonkeyStick - Oct 15, 2013 at 3:50 PM

    Tom Sestito??? Really??? This guy is a joke and can’t even do the ONE thing he’s supposed to which is fight. He gets tossed around like a rag doll all the time and has the balls to call out another player?

  4. sjsharks66 - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    Rinaldo is not a good hockey player. He is not even their problem though. So it’s pointless to continuously bring up how bad he is.

  5. phillyphanatic77 - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:16 PM

    The Flyers have taken way too many dumb penalties, but some have just been laughable. Simmonds “hold” in a one goal game, on the PP, against Detroit.. a play in which both players dove evenly for the puck. Completely killed momentum. In the same game Giroux takes a trip or hold, turns around, gets blatantly high-sticked… nothing. Even in the preseason where Rinaldo has a textbook hit on Grabovksi, somehow gets a 5-minute major and a game misconduct (without using elbows and keeping atleast one foot on the ground); then two minutes later Rechlicz leaves his feet, leads with his elbow, and launches into Grossmanns face (a guy with concussion issues)… and nothing. These aren’t the 70s or 80s Flyers and yet the refs seem to be calling them that way.

    Again, I’m not excusing horrendous penalties at crucial times but c’mon… 20-25% of the calls have been absolute bs. And they’ve missed more than their fair-share of infractions on opposing squads.

  6. antmel30 - Oct 15, 2013 at 4:18 PM

    As a flyers fan I just want to make one thing clear to sestito you blow that’s why you didn’t get ice time. Nothing to do with pk. Just saying.

  7. blackandorangeforlife - Oct 15, 2013 at 5:03 PM

    Sestito must be talking about one game this season
    “in the 23 games between February 12 and the end of his season, Rinaldo committed only three non-coincidental minor penalties, all while drawing well more than that “quote is fro SB nation
    Read this article!

    • blackandorangeforlife - Oct 15, 2013 at 5:04 PM

  8. malkinrulez - Oct 15, 2013 at 5:44 PM

    Rinaldo has a role he knows it and does it well. When you have that role rightly or wrongly you get less leeway on calls. Rinaldo has more skill than he is given credit for.

  9. canadianguest - Oct 15, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Nov 12th, mark it on your calendar, Flyers take fewer penalties than the opposition.

  10. wisdomnfl - Oct 16, 2013 at 8:02 PM

    Bad teams take a lot of penalties. They have to because they can’t compete by playing a straight game. Flyers are scrap.

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