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Babcock steaming after loss to Coyotes: ‘That’s not good enough for us’

Oct 11, 2013, 11:24 AM EDT

Mike Babcock AP

To nobody’s surprise, Red Wings head coach Mike Babcock was none too pleased with last night’s 4-2 home loss to the Phoenix Coyotes.

Also to nobody’s surprise, he’s going to do something about it.

“That’s not good enough for us. We weren’t good enough in any way,” Babcock said, per “We’ll have to look at our power play and everybody and what we’re doing. Obviously, we didn’t do a very good job as a coaching staff, because we weren’t prepared tonight.”

Detroit had four days to prepare for the Coyotes after losing to the Bruins on Saturday, yet they were still outplayed by the visitors.

“That’s two games in a row that we haven’t looked like us,” said veteran forward Daniel Cleary.

Worth noting: free-agent addition Stephen Weiss was on the ice for all four Coyotes goals. The 30-year-old has just one goal in four games, with only six registered shots.

Detroit hosts Philadelphia tomorrow.


  1. sunking1 - Oct 11, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    A couple of thoughts…
    1) Weiss on the ice for all four goals…You can take the player out of the Florida Panthers but you can’t take the Florida Panthers out of the player
    2) Playing Philly in 2013 is the cure for what ails ya!

    • shoobiedoobin - Oct 11, 2013 at 1:18 PM

      1 out of the Yotes 3 main goals was legit the other two were just chance. Fluke shots. It’s human nature, especially in sports fans, to have to place blame. Someone has to be responsible for good and bad but we’re just echoing what coaches say. We don’t know any better. But the coach isn’t necessarily saying it because bad play lead to goals, he’s saying it because he has to in a more broad sense. But when we mindlessly echo him in our pursuit of silly mimicry, we blame the goals on bad play. We had worse plays that Howard stopped, and on 2 of the 3 goals it was random luck. Bad positioning 5 minutes before a goal doesn’t lead to a random tip off a skate.

      We just don’t know how to admit that fluke luck plays as much of a part in sports as anything else. We just can’t bring ourselves to face it. Someone needs to be guilty. We need the comfort in pointing fingers. We look ridiculous but since we do it in groups no one questions anyone else. The bad play meant we didn’t score more but it wasn’t the reason for the goals against.

      And if you think Weiss was at fault, you’re high and just jumping to easy halfwit conclusions. Instead of gawking at stat sheets, WATCH him. He wasn’t bad at all. A guy can make every play perfectly, do everything right, be 20 feet away in perfect position and pick up a minus because someone else screwed up.

      • coyotes89 - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:06 PM

        You can say fluke goals but taking away the empty net goal and looking at a 38-30 shots on goal you make your own luck sometimes.

      • shoobiedoobin - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:18 PM

        If you make your own luck, it isn’t luck anymore. Shots nowadays aren’t what they used to be. They’re not indicative of anything. Teams can give up 35 shots with only a handful of real legit chances these days. Boston is THE prime example. Take away with flukes and even with Detroit’s “bad play” they either go to OT or even win.

      • datsyukdominates - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Make all of the excuses you’d like. Luck had little to do with it. I was at the game last night, and the Wings looked horrible, and simply lacked any determination outside of Datsyuk and Zetterberg. The team is playing flat and something needs to be done.

      • shoobiedoobin - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:07 PM

        You’re the example I’m talking about when I say we just can’t let ourselves acknowledge luck. The Wings lazy play didn’t make 2 of those goals take random fluke bounces, unless of course you’re a jedi or something.

    • hubeydubeydoo11 - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:11 PM

      Sorry man youre a dumb ass for thinking weiss is at fault. if you like stats youll enjoy knowing he averaged 55 points a season with the panthers. be happy to have him. hes a good player

      • coyotes89 - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:45 PM

        I wasn’t saying anyone was to blame. And I said “sometimes”. I’m just saying that the team with the most shots generally wins the game. Look at an undefeated team like San Jose. They have outshot their opponents every game. More scoring chances generally lead to more goals. It’s a simple thought. Not to hard to grasp.

      • shoobiedoobin - Oct 11, 2013 at 2:52 PM

        But I guess the concept that shots don’t equal chances seems tough for YOU to grasp. You can being up SJ but I can easily counter with Washington, who has 1 win despite outshooting everyone but maybe 4 or 5 teams thus far? The Sabres are in the upper half in shots and haven’t won yet. Shots mean little. It’s just a stat on a website somewhere for fans to stare at.

    • coyotes89 - Oct 11, 2013 at 3:08 PM

      I’m not saying your wrong lol. That’s why I’m using words like “generally” and “sometimes”. But every time someone shoots a puck on net it has a chance to go in. Some being better than others. And a goalie can defy odds and win games. The two games the coyotes won they outshot their opponents. And the two they lost they were out shot. But arguing with a bitter red wings fan is like fighting a stubborn mule. Good luck in the east.

      • shoobiedoobin - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:06 PM

        You must use the word bitter differently than I do, I use it when someone is bitter, you seem to use it when someone is making sense and makes you backpeddle into “sometimes” and “generally”.

  2. dearyxd - Oct 11, 2013 at 12:57 PM

    thats what you get when u destroy the only good thing from last year the third line… i know u need veterans too but there are too many now, this team needs Tatar and Nyquist very bad.

  3. agentdw - Oct 11, 2013 at 3:37 PM

    i thought the line in the article that said “hes only scored 1 goal in 4 games” was hilarious. lets do some math here: 1 goal every 4 games over an 82 game season comes out to about 20-21 goals for the year. in todays NHL, 20 goals is actually pretty decent, if not a straight up good year. now if your leading scorer only has that many, you’re in trouble, but for a role player thats all u can really ask or expect out of a guy. and thats what Weiss is for them, a role player, if they’re asking/expecting him to put up star-caliber numbers, they will be disappointed. hell, on a well balanced team like the Hawks, their top goal scorer (usually Sharp) only gets 30-35 a year, with most of the top guys (Kane, Toews, Hossa) scoring around 25, and the 3rd/4th line bangers chipping in with maybe 10-15…but they all play defense. scoring a ton of goals does nothing when u also give up a ton of goals, just ask PIT/WSH how thats been working for them the last few years…..

  4. elwaysmilehighdenver - Oct 11, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    Luke “sky walker” Glendening making his NHL debut! Awesome! Great having this local AHL talent get the call up. Redwings need a jolt of youth.

  5. jmcurran28 - Oct 11, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    The combination of the Wings having 4 days off, and the Yotes being embarrassed in their last two was just a recipe for disaster.

    Ask any Red Wings fan and they will all say the same thing. Give us Nyquist and Tatar. We’ve all come to love and appreciate our seasoned vets like Bert and Cleary, but we can’t expect any sustained success from these guys while our young bloods go to waste.

    Let loose the “Goose”!

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