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Time for Claude Giroux to step up

Oct 7, 2013, 12:55 PM EDT

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The numbers aren’t pretty for the Philadelphia Flyers. Three games. Three goals. Three losses.

As a result, head coach Peter Laviolette has been fired and replaced with Craig Berube. Criticism is also being heaped on general manager Paul Holmgren for the decisions he’s made, as well as owner Ed Snider for allowing Holmgren to keep making those decisions. And rightly so, since there’s no question management has made some major mistakes. (See: Bryzgalov, Ilya.)

But really — and with all due respect to Berube, who we assume has some ideas on how turn the team around — it’s the players who need to take the most responsibility for the way things have gone so far. Suffice to say, this is not a roster bereft of offensive ability.

That starts with the captain, Claude Giroux, who’s been held pointless in three games after receiving an eight-year, $66.2 million contract extension this summer.

Giroux isn’t alone among well-compensated Flyers forwards in searching for his first point. Jakub Voracek, Wayne Simmonds, and Scott Hartnell are in the same boat. However, that really shouldn’t be any solace. Pointless is still pointless. Shouldn’t matter if you have company, especially if you’re supposed to be the leader.

Yesterday in Carolina, the Flyers managed just three third-period shots despite trailing the Hurricanes by a goal after 40 minutes. Giroux finished the contest with just 18:06 of ice time. In his first game, he played 26:02. His second, 22:56.

Maybe Giroux is still feeling the effects of the tendon damage he suffered in his right hand while golfing this summer. And to be fair, he does have nine shots on goal, so perhaps there’s an element of bad luck in his failure to find the back of the net.

“No one’s got that confidence or that swagger right now to score some goals,” Flyer defenseman Luke Schenn said yesterday. “When you put the puck in the net, it makes everyone feel good around you. For whatever reason, we’ve had a hard time doing that.”

On the bright side, the Flyers have a great opportunity to get their first win, and score some goals, tomorrow with Florida in town. The Panthers, last year’s worst team in the NHL, were blown out, 7-0, in St. Louis on Saturday.

  1. freneticgarfieldfan - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    0 points = a little meager for “the world’s best player”

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:20 PM

      This guy is it even top 10 IMO. He had one good year and all the sudden he is one of the best players, he is nothing without Jagr. Typical media overhyping players too soon

      • Meta - Oct 7, 2013 at 4:36 PM

        Nothing without Jagr? he may have had his best year when jagr was there but the 2010-11 season was a terrific season for him as well. Thanks to Giroux, multiple players like Voracek and Hartnell have had breakout season as well. i would say the latter 2 players are more overrated than Giroux. he’s the one doing all the work so those mediocre look good.

    • hockeytownhasthecups - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:58 PM

      Awesome! It could not have been said any better!! “Worlds best player” = “One Season Wonder”
      He had one decent season with the support of much better players and then they assign the C to him? First season he wears the C they dont even make the playoffs. This guys a joke. Well the city he plays for is a bit of a joke too, so I guess he fits.

      • cg28rulz - Oct 8, 2013 at 6:46 AM

        If he played for ur team he would be the best guy to ever lace up a pair of skates and wasnt your team up 3-1 in the series over chicago an choked last year!?

  2. crazemastercraze - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    Schenn said before entering a fully catered limousine filled with supermodels (provided by The Flyers Organization)

  3. broadstreetsbaddest88 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:10 PM

    It’s flyers day on PHT today and they’re gettin some much needed spotlight on there horrible play. The only ones I feel bad for is Emery and Mason for gettin no support after plying good games. I’m glad sh*ts gettin done today and not on fifteen games like usual cause I’d have no walls left in my house. It’s time for change and a new coach and Giroux to step up is what we need. The front office aint havin this sh*t and I’m glad everyone is being held responsible. This team is good enough to win games. I do feel a trade comin on though cause Holmgren isn’t done just yet.

    • DonkeyStick - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:37 PM

      Product of poor school system is all I can say after reading your post.

      • hockeytownhasthecups - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:00 PM

        Well he IS a flyers fan.

      • laxman1944 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        Hey “Hockeytown”….when is the last time your team won d*ck???

  4. crazemastercraze - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    Everyone responsible? Oh Flyers land, how bliss it must be to live in a land of delusion!

    • macgrubie - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:18 PM


  5. ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    “Time for Claude Giroux to step up” is damn right. “it’s the players who need to take the most responsibility for the way things have gone so far” is ALMOST past where I’m willing to lay blame. so far, yeah, they should take some of the blame for those first 3 games. but that’s all it is for each of those players so far, simultaneous THREE GAME slumps. if we had a whole season of non-production from all of those guys, I’d be with you completely…. but after 3 games, I’m not worried about G, Voracek, or Simmonds, especially given that two of them are dealing with minor injuries still. I do think Hartnell is past that peak we saw 2 seasons ago. Only thing that kept him above water was the shot he had…. and the shot he has hasn’t been working for a season and 3 games.

    Giroux DOES need to step up, but I don’t think his or Voracek’s or Simmonds’ scoring woes are THE reason the Flyers look so sh**ty right now. The mentality needs to change, first of all.

    • mcphillthy - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:28 PM

      And the mentality did change today when they canned lavy. That was a message to everyone in that locker room.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:30 PM

        You would think missing the playoffs would be a message to everyone in that locker room. Just saying. Ill kindly see myself out now.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        well that remains to be seen. but yeah, that’s what I was referring to. trying to justify the firing. I, for one, am with it. I won’t make any arguments about firing Holmgren too…. but unless he’s out there making more horrible moves as we speak, a GM switch isn’t going to change this team.

      • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

        ^^^was in response to mcphillthy, not curioustraveler.

      • mcphillthy - Oct 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        I don’t feed the trolls when they come unless they actually talk hockey. Everyone hates on Philly so that makes me smile.
        Ibeiniid… We can hope and pray that’s all it took. From what I saw the players were done with lavy. Homer and ed must have noticed. I don’t think Berube is the answer but I haven’t seen him do his job yet so I won’t judge. I’m just glad change is happening. Something had to happen.

  6. malkinrulez - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Not scoring goals was an issue last year as well, makes no sense , plenty of good offensive players, has to be beyond frustrating for flyers fans

    • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:36 PM

      not for those guys. G maybe should have produced a bit more, but Voracek and Simmonds had killer years. it’s pretty well known that defense and/or Bryzgalov were the issues last year (except for a few small stretches of unproductive offense, which all teams can expect at some point in the year).

    • mcphillthy - Oct 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM

      Malkin I like you, man. You come to talk hockey and not talk sh*t. The flyers will get it together soon. We have way too much talent and a lot of new faces and it will take time to adjust. The whole team is learning a new style under Berube so I’m giving them a grace period to get adjusted. It is very disappointing but I’ve been calling for lavy’s head for a few seasons now. Even though some don’t agree with me I think it was a great move

  7. steelcity333 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:32 PM

    Remember when people said this guy was better than Crosby? Was a joke then and a bigger joke now.

    • curioustraveler13 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      I look at Sam carchidi tweet saying “a national stage saw Crosby toss the baton of best player in the league to giroux” every time I need a good laugh. Hey did they use Instagram to announce Laviolette firing??

      • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        well yeah, out of context, that looks stupid just like “best player in the world” does now. but at the time, it made a lot of sense. G did EVERYTHING in that game/series he’s referring to. at that point, Giroux had just scored 93 points that season, the Flyers knocked the Pens out, G threw that monster hit on Crosby to set the tone in game 6, and scored 14 points in that series…… it looked like he WAS the best player in the world. how could you make the argument at that particular point that Crosby, who’s team just got knocked out by Giroux, was better than G? nobody had an argument at the time. right now though, yeah, it looks like that was just Giroux over-performing.

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        All very true points! It just makes me laugh because it was another knee jerk reaction from a very small sample size. As an outsider I think the flyers in General have way too many knee jerk reactions..

      • DonkeyStick - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        Almost as bad as when they said Lemieux passed the torch to Lindros after Mario retired at end of 1997 playoff meeting.

      • 2jivecrew - Oct 7, 2013 at 7:15 PM


        Yes, we did have an argument for why Crosby was still better. Body of work. “G” had one series worth talking about. And it had more to do with horrid defense and horrid goaltending on the part of the Penguins than it did “G”…….as evidenced by the fact that he’s done next to nothing since. And he certainly never did anything before that series to put himself in the discussion. No matter, everybody outside of Philly rolled their eyes and chuckled at that particular comment by Lavs. Ever notice how NOBODY jumped on that bandwagon, not even in the immediate aftermath of that series? We all knew better. Anybody with half a brain knew better.

  8. pitpenguinsrulez - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:34 PM

    I thought he was the best player in the game? When your the best in the game per a FIRED coach do you really have to step up your game? hahaha

    • thephillyfanclub - Oct 7, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      Yeah hahahaha, you are really funny, you seem to have a short memory considering this is practically the same thing that happened when the penguins fired therrien in 09 and bylsma took over, an underachieving team with a superstar and a ton of talent headed to miss the playoffs after a recent cup run, nobody was calling crosby the best in the game back then moron

      • curioustraveler13 - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:07 PM

        I don’t recall a year when Crosby wasn’t referred to as the best player in the game. That includes all his injury riddled seasons. Not to mention there owns system was defensive oriented holding back his star players talent. Laviolette system was not holding anyone back. Hey at least holmgren has you drinking the kool aid too though. Good luck the rest of the season bud. You guys can’t go 0-82. Can you?

      • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:21 PM

        hey traveler, I think you should have a quick read of this and tell me if you don’t draw some similarities……

      • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM

        unrelated: the mention of Hossa to Pittsburgh in there is pretty amusing to think about now.

    • jpelle82 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:02 PM

      look…the guy who said giroux was the best player in the game has now lost all of his credentials in speaking on such matters so therefore giroux is exonerated of such a charge and is free to operate within the confines of his ability now.

      • jpelle82 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM

        …without further prosecution.

      • laxman1944 - Oct 7, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        Good point…….not like he came out and declared he was the best……..

      • drone501 - Oct 8, 2013 at 7:29 AM

        the names crosby and giroux should not even be used in the same sentence. flyers are a team going nowhere again.

  9. gaborik104life - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    @traveler what about in the 2004-2005 season.

    And BOOM goes the dynamite

    • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:17 PM

      i’m assuming you mean that because that was the lockout year….? Crosby wasn’t drafted til after that season.

      • gaborik104life - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:25 PM

        exactly but apparently people don’t pick up on the fact that it was a dumb joke. I have another one. Waka Waka

    • jpelle82 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:20 PM

      you mean the year he won the chl player of the year for the second time? the same year he won gold, top forward, and scored the most points in the world juniors? crosby has been the best player in the world since his inception circa 1987.

  10. jason9696 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:04 PM

    Best player in the world? LOL He’s not even in the top 20.

    • ibieiniid - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:18 PM

      oh man you’re so original and funny. you didn’t read the first two comments on this page??

    • thephillyfanclub - Oct 11, 2013 at 9:03 PM

      Oh yeah man, your absolutely right he is definitely not in the top twenty even though stamkos, and malkin are the only guys to have more points then him in the past 2 seasons, you are right on though, and yeah im sure crosby would be up there but he was still recovering from his most recent head ache from those BRUTAL shots to the head he has taken.

  11. joewilliesshnoz - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:13 PM

    The Flyers suck. Priceless.

  12. sjsharks66 - Oct 7, 2013 at 3:15 PM

    He is a good hockey player. He is not a leader on any line though. He needs that other player to boost his performance.

  13. President Charles Logan - Oct 7, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    I think Max Talbot would have made a better Captain then Giroux

    • laxman1944 - Oct 7, 2013 at 6:52 PM


  14. travishenryskid - Oct 7, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Trade him.

    • girouxed - Oct 7, 2013 at 11:21 PM


  15. girouxed - Oct 7, 2013 at 6:01 PM

    Wow today is tear Flyers a new one day. lol

  16. jimw81 - Oct 7, 2013 at 7:05 PM

    jason wrong title of the article, it’s should be “Time for Sean Couturier to step up”. Giroux will be fine.

  17. jacketsfan7 - Oct 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    This is where I get worried about his hand
    I don’t think that this drought will last long but I’m gonna keep an eye on this guy

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