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Video: Preds’ Josi sidelined by Avs’ Downie’s hit

Oct 4, 2013, 11:02 PM EDT

Nashville Predators defenseman Roman Josi suffered an upper-body injury and won’t return after a questionable hit by Colorado Avalanche winger Steve Downie, the Tennessean’s Josh Cooper reports.

The Denver Post’s Adrian Dater believes that a suspension could be coming for Downie, 26, who’s had a history of hockey violence.

Some believe that Josi might have suffered a concussion (common upper-body speak).

If so, it’s a rough blow for the Preds. They’ve been getting hit hard with injuries so far, but mainly among their forwards. He might not be a household name, but the 23-year-old defenseman is a big piece for Nashville; they handed him a seven-year contract that’s comparable to the one Los Angeles signed with Slava Voynov.

Downie received three penalties already tonight, two of which were for charging. The Avalanche would lose out significantly if he misses time, too, as he was getting some shifts alongside Matt Duchene.

  1. mp1131211 - Oct 4, 2013 at 11:38 PM

    Absolutely clean. Great hit. Sad reaction from a battered and frustrated Predator’s club. Nice win for the Avs

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:19 AM

      Buffoonish statement, it was yet another obvious charge and he left his feet.
      Are you bias, stupid or blind? You do see the obvious video evidence of Downie gliding then taking strides into the player, and then topping it off with a leap?

      Mercy me you people are beyond clueless the majority of the time.

      • jernster21 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:55 AM

        He took 3 strides in before he hit him and he’s probably one of the slowest guys on the Avs’ team – how is that any worse than someone skating in from the red line and hitting someone else? How many strides? Regardless, he leaves his feet upon impact, and if you’ve ever played hockey in your life, then you know that that isn’t unusual. It’s time to quick being a puss and realize that if you don’t keep your head up you’re gonna get hit. Iginila got knocked on his ass last game and got up and fought his own battle.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 3:06 AM

        Nobody gives a flying fukc if he’s slow, or what it compare to you moron.
        You can’t take 3-4 strides into a guy just before delivering a hit.

        I played in the QMJHL, where did you play goof?
        Ya ya you gotta keep your head up and that doesn’t change the fact that it was charging in every sense of the word. So eat a dick you blathering hockey watching, never played anything meaningless in your life fanboy.

      • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:59 AM

        Well well well- excuse me! QMJHL! Jason Brough, can we get this guy his own section here at Pro Hockey Talk?

        I’m obviously wrong here now that you’ve enlightened me to who I am speaking with. Hey, man- I know you probably have never ever heard this- ever- but can I get an autograph?

      • joey4id - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:07 AM

        Imnotyourbuddyguy, You’re right, but, chill out a little. Here is how charging is described in the NHL’s rule book.

        Rule 42 – Charging 42.1 Charging – A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner. Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.

      • avfanforlife - Oct 5, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        Webber after the game said his feet never left the ice. Charge? perhaps. Fine or suspension? No way. That was a pretty awesome hit, and putting the AV’s on a powerplay was the right ending. Obvious bias on the part of most posters here is funny actually: AV’s fan = Clean hit… Pred’s fan = Goon left his feet! Gotta love it – Hockey is back! Av’s don’t have a serious rival now, so I guess we’re just gonna pissoff every team til we find one! First Ducks, then Preds… Toronto next!

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 11:58 AM

        Another clueless buffoon who is pretending I said the words “Suspension” or even “Dirty”

        Try to understand this idiots
        No where have I ever said “Suspension”, or even suggested anything of the kind.

        I said it was CHARGING
        It was called on the ice as CHARGING, which it was.

        By definition and CHARGE can’t be a “clean hit”

        Again,
        So many idiots here it boggles the mind

      • DonkeyStick - Oct 5, 2013 at 11:48 AM

        Dude, you didn’t go Al Bundy and bring up 20 year ago football/hockey career did you?

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 11:55 AM

        He asked and I answered dick

      • avfanforlife - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:25 PM

        imnotyourbuddyguy has issues. just sayin.

    • madtolive5 - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:42 AM

      Oh that hit is okay but fighting isn’t ???

      How stupid are you ???

      That is exactly the type of hit, by a POS player in the league that needs to be taken out of the game.
      Two adults willing to fight vs blind side, running leaps to the head?

      Downie Will get 5 games atleast

      • avfanforlife - Oct 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM

        Won’t happen. Hockey hit. Go watch golf if you hate contact sports.

      • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:30 PM

        How many games did he end up getting? 1) it wasn’t blindsided. 2) he didn’t leap. 3) Weber tried to smash his head into the ice by whipping him up and down by the sweater. 4) I’ve never said fighting isn’t ok. I’ve ALWAYS said fighting in the nhl is a complex issue that needs real discussions 5) you’re just plain wrong and your team got BEAT! Hope your weekend is better than your Friday.

    • icelovinbrotha215 - Oct 5, 2013 at 3:06 PM

      Didn’t he leave his feet? How is that legal?

  2. peterjohnjoseph - Oct 4, 2013 at 11:40 PM

    The guy in the Av’s jerseys with the baby seemed to love it. He looked like he was doing everything he could to get himself and his child as close to the violence as possible, jostling the kid for position.

    • mp1131211 - Oct 4, 2013 at 11:41 PM

      Lucky kid…

  3. amberroseburr - Oct 4, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    totally clean hit, the guy had his head down- not Downie’s fault. Nashville should have served a bigger penalty for the 2 on 1 retaliation.

    • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:19 AM

      Another person who is clueless to the rules of hockey

      • dtownbeatdown - Oct 5, 2013 at 9:48 AM

        Listen Mr. QUEBEC MAJOR JUNIOR HOCKEY LEAGUE… I know you must be super skilled and obviously don’t have much time on your hands to post on here due to your busy schedule of signing autographs and talking about your one game in a junior league nobody gives a rats ass about.

        This is an opinion based forum… yes it was a charge but since when does every charge result into a suspension? If you played hockey then you know this happens quite often… get the sand out of your vagina and move on.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 10:30 AM

        Where did I say suspension moron?
        Oh right Nowhere

        You morons said it was clean
        Now you’re admitting it was charging….just like I said.

        Absolutely pathetic when some idiot tries to put words in another persons mouth in an attempt not to look stupid.

      • dtownbeatdown - Oct 5, 2013 at 10:42 AM

        Listen guy, I never once stated it was not charging… I agreed with it being charging, I don’t agree he left his feet initially, but he did lean into the hit causing his feet to leave the ice after impact… it looked worse then it actually was. You grouping everyone as whole because some don’t agree with you is asinine. Putting words in peoples mouth you say? The only thing in your mouth is obviously Josi’s dong. Maybe you should read your own statements you ignorant dumb@ass.

        You will definitely not be getting my vote for the QMJHL hall of fame! That is for sure you meany!

        Its hockey you puss.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        Im responding to the OP you pansy who never played anything meaningful in his life.
        STFU dipsh1t

  4. natlbnkilr - Oct 4, 2013 at 11:51 PM

    Clean hit… Seriously?? Downie launched himself into Josi’s head and left the ice to do it. Downie has been a cheap shot artist his entire “career”. Suspension is on the horizon….

    • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:01 AM

      Nah, he doesn’t launch himself at all. He caught air from the collision.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:22 AM

        That’s EXACTLY what people who have never played hockey in their lives love to say about hockey hits where a player launches himself.

        They Defy Physics.

        A player who skates into another player without launching will NEVER go flying in the air like that…. EVER.

        Seriously where do you people come from?

      • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:33 AM

        We come from gamecenter with slow motion instant replay. Clean. As. A. Whistle.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 3:08 AM

        MP you’re an idiot, you pretend you don’t see the 3-4 strides he takes before the hit or are you really this stupid?

        You’re actually that stupid is my guess

      • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:38 PM

        He didn’t launch himself and you obviously you don’t understand physics. Calling it a charge was a bad call. Putting the Avs on power play was the right call. Weber deserved supplemental discipline for intending to hurt Downie by trying to crack him like a whip against the ice.

  5. cavafox - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:02 AM

    Don’t care either way but looked like downy launched. Head was down but downy can’t launch himself there. Given the history. 1 game or just a fine this early on.

  6. kp20520 - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    He’s clearly guilty of charging and leaving his feet, and maybe targeting the head. That along with the hit resulting in an injury and his history, he’ll get 3 games.

  7. ironyisadeadscene - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:10 AM

    I saw a launch to be honest

  8. kp20520 - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:11 AM

    I just read the end if the article, he had already received 2 other charging penalties earlier in the game? Anyone see those? “Flying check” as said by the hometown announcer…

    • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 12:21 AM

      Box score says 2 for slashing and one for charging.

  9. avsman9 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:07 AM

    Like how weber gets mad. You got to grab the players head and shove it into the boards to be clean.

  10. vshehane - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:15 AM

    Can you say POS?

  11. imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:26 AM

    “42.1 Charging – A minor or major penalty shall be imposed on a player who skates or jumps into, or charges an opponent in any manner.
    Charging shall mean the actions of a player who, as a result of distance traveled, shall violently check an opponent in any manner. A “charge” may be the result of a check into the boards, into the goal frame or in open ice.”

    “Skates or Jumps into”

    Downie was coasting up the ice. Then he saw Josi in a vulnerable position. Then took 3-4 strides to hit him while he was in that same vulnerable position.

    Downie breaks both rules
    That’s charging. Case closed.

    Learn the rules tools

    • jernster21 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:59 AM

      When I read those “rules”, every single hit could be qualified as charging.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Oct 5, 2013 at 3:11 AM

        Because you’re an idiot like many here, who has NO IDEA what the rules of hockey are, all you idiots care about is seeing people destroyed and you couldn’t care less about the consequences because you’re fat slobs who couldn’t play in a competitive league to save your lives.

        And why did you put rules in quotes? That’s straight from the NHL rule book, just showing us more of your stupidity?

        “Durrr when I read those “Rules”, everything is charging Duuuuuuuuuuuuuur”
        So you’re admitting that according to the rules what Downie did was charging.

        You’re such a f’n idiot

      • joey4id - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:14 AM

        Hey! Relax! Where is all thiat anger coming from? Get your attitude in check because PHT will bounce you from here if you don’t. Just chill.

      • pxland - Oct 5, 2013 at 9:44 AM

        It would be way sad if he got “bounced” from here. Maybe not.

        I can appreciate the passion. But talk to people like you don’t live in a cave and bite the heads of of fish for every meal.

    • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:44 PM

      I think he took 3-4 strides to make a move toward the puck. None of this would have happened if Josi had his head up. And Weber’s pathetic display of sportsmanship afterward shows what kind of organization the preds are. He’s the captain? Act like one.

  12. blkeskimo1785 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    It was definitely a charge, and the point of contact was the head…I think the original target was Josi’s shoulder, but Josi turned towards Downie at the last second. It could go either way, but I’m pretty certain he’ll get a call from Shanaban.

    • jernster21 - Oct 5, 2013 at 2:00 AM

      Well, it’s the Avalanche, so it goes without saying.

  13. thaddikus - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:27 AM

    It took a few looks but it certainly isn’t charging, and he did not aim for the head, but when your hip hits a guy’s chest/shoulder area you had to get air. the last view shows it the best. Everyone crying about this hit need to grow up, its hockey. It looks like a bigger than it is bc Downey launches and you could see the play developing into a lineup shot. Lining a guy up and anticipating play is not a penalty nor is it cheap, Its hockey and hitting is a part of it. Downey might not be clean player but not every hit via reputation is dirty. Josi had no idea and got caught in a bad way and resulted in an injury.

  14. ndrick731 - Oct 5, 2013 at 9:08 AM

    Downie needs to get on the penguins. That’s considered to be no problem if your on the pens.

  15. sampulls - Oct 5, 2013 at 9:13 AM

    Let’s face it – If this was weber throwing the hit, it would be “the hit of the year”

  16. squidward247 - Oct 5, 2013 at 10:18 AM

    Welcome to the Patrick Roy era.

  17. pxland - Oct 5, 2013 at 11:01 AM

    No hearing.

    Sad for imnotyourbuddy…..

    • jernster21 - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM

      But he played in the Q which makes him an expert referee! ??? HE’S KIND OF A BIG DEAL.

  18. avfanforlife - Oct 5, 2013 at 1:35 PM

    I think we should all just agree with imnotyourbuddyguy before he goes postal. (no offence usps workers)
    But seriously dude… Pipe the f down.

  19. flyerspsu - Oct 5, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Downie had 3 penalties before this including 2 charges? i like a guy who plays physical like him but thats ridiculous, im sure Roy loves it too but hes got to rein downie in, rinaldo was pretty bad at it when he 1st came up, but not that bad and has completely changed his game so that he draws a ton of penalties and rarely gets one himself

    • mp1131211 - Oct 5, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      He didn’t have two charges. This article is incorrect. He had 2 slashes and this one “charge”

      • pxland - Oct 5, 2013 at 6:09 PM

        One trip, one slash, one charge, and a double-minor for defending himself when he got jumped to be exact.

  20. hockeyisatoughsport - Oct 5, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    where did all these nancy-ass hockey fans come from? hockey is a contact sport. a TOUGH sport. the physical element has always been a giant part of the game, and there is no reason to change that. you look back 20 years and beyond and what you see is that those guys moved a lot slower, they kept their god damn heads up, and they were all capable of fighting their own battles and defending themselves (save gretzky and a few euro guys). now, you see these young euro and québécois dudes out here wanting to go end to end in 3 seconds while either looking the other way and admiring their own saucer passes or with their heads down admiring their own stickwork. and for some reason them and their entire organizations take exception when a player on a different team, with a tougher, meaner skillset wants to knock them on their asses within the confines of the rules of the game. well i take exception to that. shea weber, you are a punk. barry trotz, you are a punk. predator nation, you’re all a bunch of punks. and you’re all hypocrites. you all go wild when shea lays a big hit on somebody. or when hal gill’s monter ass flips somebody on a hip check. but when it happens to your guy, with a totally clean hit, you run to mommy shanahan begging for her to put the mean mr. downie in timeout.

    grow the eff up. hockey is a tough sport. if you want to watch the fastest, watch track. if you want to watch the best hand eye coordination, watch baseball. if you want to watch the toughest, watch boxing. if you want to watch it all, watch hockey.

    • pxland - Oct 5, 2013 at 6:11 PM

      This post deserves an article by itself. Great work.

  21. jimeejohnson - Oct 5, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    The only kinda launching I like takes place around 4:20 Pacific Time!

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