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Wild’s Stoner facing backlash after grizzly bear killing

Sep 4, 2013, 11:14 AM EDT

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Minnesota Wild defenseman Clayton Stoner is under fire after a picture of him hoisting the severed head of a grizzly bear appeared online.

Stoner, 28, appears in an image believed to be taken in May by workers in British Columbia’s Kwatna estuary, a First Nations village.

That photo has angered the Coastal First Nations’ Bear Working Group, which has instituted a non-government-recognized ban on tribal hunting.

“Last May, trophy hunters shot and killed a five-year-old grizzly bear,” read a media release from the CFN, as per The Province. “The bear, nicknamed ‘Cheeky’ by local field technicians, was skinned and left to rot in a field.

“His head and paws were carried out past a sign declaring trophy hunting closed in the Great Bear Rainforest.”

Stoner issued a statement about the incident through a Wild spokesman.

“I grew up hunting and fishing in British Columbia and continue to enjoy spending time with my family outdoors,” Stoner said, also per The Province. “I applied for and received a grizzly bear hunting license through a British Columbia limited entry lottery last winter and shot a grizzly bear with my license while hunting with my father, uncle and a friend in May.

“I love to hunt and fish and will continue to do so with my family and friends in British Columbia.”

It’s believed about 100 bears are hunted and killed annually in the Great Bear Rainforest, a remote region in B.C. between Vancouver Island and Southeast Alaska.

(Image courtesy The Province)

  1. northstarnic - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    “skinned and left to rot in a field.
    His head and paws were carried out past a sign declaring trophy hunting closed in the Great Bear Rainforest.”
    Disgusting. I am not opposed to hunting, but if you’re going to kill an animal at least do so with some dignity and utilize the animal (you know, eat it). The fact that he did it in an area where bears receive some degree of protection is even more disturbing.

    • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:36 AM

      while i agree with everything you said about the ethics and eating (or at least donating) your kill, i differ in opinion as far as the management of the bears in “protected” areas. there’s a reason they give x amount of tags for certain areas. too many bears means bears will starve or encroach on people so yes they need to be managed and it is our job to do so. they also have to protect elk and deer, as we are seeing in the western US with the proliferation of the reintroduced wolves in montana, colorado, wyoming, idaho, etc. without a season to hunt them or manage them, they will kill livestock and severely impact deer/elk herds as well.

      • imnotyourbuddyguy - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:57 AM

        It’s professionals job to do so, not any yahoo with a gun.

        The above picture is what you get with Yahoo’s.
        Idiots who can’t even be bothered to do it properly.

        If it’s so important then pay people to do it properly, not hand out a licence to any idiot.

      • ashtongronholz8 - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:56 PM

        Sorry but keystone species don’t need to managed. Deer, elk, etc is a different story but the “management” of bears, wolves etc is all for financial gain. As a biologist there’s a lot of DNR employees out there I don’t have respect for.

      • dueman - Sep 4, 2013 at 1:01 PM

        imnotyourbuddyguy – Who the hell said that he didn’t hunt this bear properly? A hunting licence is not an easy licence to obtain in Canada. That being said, he has a hunting licence, and also had a grizzly tag. So what makes him a yahoo, and what didn’t he do properly? The money collected from licences, and tags, goes directly to protecting these animals, and their environment. Unless you would like to pay for all this yourself, you yahoo, I suggest you educate yourself, and quit spouting nonsense at everything that you don’t understand.

      • dueman - Sep 4, 2013 at 1:29 PM

        ashtongronholz8 – Your last sentence just proves that you are full of it. “As a biologist there’s a lot of DNR employees out there I don’t have respect for” – Why, because their field research differs from your opinion? Their decisions are based on research. What’s your, one persons opinion based on to argue with the Ministries (yes here in Canada it’s not the DNR, but as a biologist that knows everything about our animals, and our Ministry researchers, and everything, you already knew that, right?)

      • nolockoutpricks - Sep 4, 2013 at 9:06 PM

        you should re-read the story.”Bear Working Group, which has instituted a non-government-recognized ban on tribal hunting.” the key to this statement is NON-GOVERNMENT RECOGNIZED its not protected area he did nothing wrong.

  2. jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:29 AM

    well i certainly hope he wasnt the one who left the bear to rot in the field. if so he is not a true outdoorsman or conservationist. he is a criminal, its considered wanton waste just about anywhere in north america. i’ve never been to BC but i would figure they have the law on the books. the only exemption is for disease (trichinosis) and the meat would have to be tested…and even then he could be excused for the waste but he would likely not get another bear tag.

  3. blomfeld - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:30 AM

    ANOTHER ‘TOUGH’ GUY EH ?

    Like with Booth, any special forces person could kill an armed Stoner with just their bare hands so fast that the idiot wouldn’t even know what had happened. Pictures like this make about as much sense as someone ‘posing’ in front of an ant they just stepped on.

    • kaptaanamerica - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      Comments as ridiculous as that and by the anti hunting nutcases on here I’m sure inspire people to take up hunting.

  4. credible316 - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    As if Wild fans needed another reason to hate this guy.

  5. imnotyourbuddyguy - Sep 4, 2013 at 11:54 AM

    He’s a douche like near ALL hunters.
    Bravo you can take a firearm and kill an unsuspecting animal from a safe distance.
    Sure is impressive, and these scumbags can’t be bothered carrying their work out of the area.
    Too much work huh?

    Wannabe tough guys satisfying their “thrill of the hunt”. Must be SO thrilling that only you and your friends know you’re there to kill, and do it in complete safety, while the animal just goes about being an animal.

    Big smiles and sooooo proud that they have butchered an animal that wasn’t bothering them or anyone.

    All these “hunters” are anything but, they are cowards and completely self absorbed types looking for validation.

    Reasons for “Hunting” – Zero
    Reasons for Culling, plenty, and they should carried out by professionals. Not random douches who want to kill something (aka nearly every “hunter”)

    • waye09 - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      must be so much fun killing and cutting it’s head off, perverted!

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:11 PM

      “Reasons for “Hunting” – Zero”

      even most non-hunters, such as myself, probably disagree with you there.

    • survivalhunterlady - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:04 PM

      Another viewpoint, of you aren’t to closeminded or whatever, I have hunted since childhood and have NEVER killed an animal we didn’t eat other than a rabid or sick one in 60+ years. We don’t hunt for sport nor trophies. I never have nor do I now condone that type of killing. We utilize 99% of every animal. Do you not eat meat? Do you rate yourself above everyone or just those you know nothing in real life? You have my sympathy as a pretty sad isolated individual. We’ll pray you never get to the point that you are forced to compromise your lofty ideals to feed yourself or your family, if you even have one. Have a great meat free life.

    • nolockoutpricks - Sep 4, 2013 at 9:32 PM

      some people are so ignorant. buddyguy is probably the same kinda guy that thought that bringing the wolves back was a great idea. then when his lap dog went missing he just couldn’t understand what happened. the way it sounds cheeky was getting to close to the camps. any time a WILD animal has a nickname its a bad thing. bears are killing machines thank god it didn’t kill a child, for all we know clayton saved a life. as a hunter its not so much about the killing as it is the joy of success. all the work and prep that goes into the hunt has paid off. so for like buddyguy it would be like completing that 30 piece puzzle with your mother right before bedtime. and waye09 he cutt its head off he didnt screw it

    • blomfeld - Sep 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

      ‘Hear Hear’ friend !

      Like you, I also have no problem with killing things, as death & birth are essential for life as we know it to exist. What I do have a problem with however, are so-called ‘tough’ guys like Stoner and Booth who thump their chests with pride after executing defenseless creatures. For to do so is immoral, pathetic and quite unbecoming of a normal ‘red-blooded’ male who has any sense of decency. What you’ll discover if you delve into this subject, is the fact that most ‘modern-day’ hunters suffer from ‘acute’ self-esteem issues which more often than not, are rooted in either ‘real or perceived’ sexual inadequacies. The result is that these ‘troubled’ people will attempt to compensate for their shortcomings with wanton acts of senseless violence, usually against those who are completely defenseless and completely unaware.

      As I’ve already said, people like Booth and Stoner are the farthest thing from being tough. Any special forces person, be it American, German or Israeli could kill an ‘armed’ Booth or Stoner with their bare hands so fast, the idiot would never even know what had happened … and they wouldn’t have a need to ‘gloat’ about it either.

  6. eagles512 - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:05 PM

    Not a hunter but calling all hunters douches is idiotic.

    • waye09 - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM

      how about killers?

      • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:12 PM

        pretty much everything you eat except salt (and ya, if you go back far enough, even salt I believe) was alive at one point….. so you’re saying all of mankind are douches

      • waye09 - Sep 4, 2013 at 2:46 PM

        yes comparing salt to a live bear is logical

      • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:01 PM

        aaaaand the award for missing the point goes toooooooooooo ::drum roll::……..

  7. jimmydeedub - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:10 PM

    You knew this would bring all the crazies out of the woodwork. Well played PHT…well played…

  8. ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    i honestly thought the team from Minnesota’s requirement was to kill a bear with, at MOST, a knife before you can lace up the skates. expect Pominville’s soon.

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM

      Derek Boogaard killed his with his mouth and a melon-baller.

  9. jsally430 - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:26 PM

    imnotyourbuddyguy. you are probably the biggest d-bag I’ve ever seen on this site. to call hunters d-bags is idiotic. likes take venison can you get it at your local meat department? no you can’t. I love venison and will continue to hunt to get it. although I have a feeling you don’t go to a grocery store that has meat. other theb tofu. get effed dude

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 12:29 PM

      I agree witchu there. Except on this: Tofu, not a meat lol

    • jpelle82 - Sep 4, 2013 at 1:31 PM

      yeah you can buy venison from the deer/elk farms online…they charge like $30 a lb for loins/straps and good luck catching them when its in stock. its no joke expensive. i’ve never bought it but i will keep hunting for mine as well. give me a fat doe over an old buck any day.

    • dueman - Sep 4, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      jsally430 – I gotta agree with you, especially on your first sentence! I don’t think I have ever read anything written by the guy that wasn’t just stupidity laced with insults. I think he’s just another troll with nothing constructive to add to anything.

  10. pensfan1 - Sep 4, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    I agree with dueman. Not only difficult to get a hunting license but even more difficult to draw a lottery animal, sometimes a once in a lifetime opportunity. The fact it is a lottery draw tells me it is a managed animal and not one any “yahoo” can legally shoot. Sure there are poachers but this is clearly not the case. Everything was done legally and according to license.

    What the article didn’t say that usually with lottery animals there is a conservation officer of some sort along or nearby that will take samples and vitals when an animal is harvested for population study, etc. Some even have acted as guides to make sure the hunter has a great experience and the right animal is taken. There will always be a disgruntled someone everywhere that will yell foul, infringement, or unfair. And to be honest, I don’t think the local First Nation was as much upset with the kill as they were with the waste and to that I agree. The carcass can have a use beyond trophy and wild animal food if the hunter doesn’t want it.

    Besides, I believe that in Canada it is difficult to even have a gun. Not just a handgun but any gun, even for sport. There are miles of legal paperwork and checks for anything in the arms system for both weapons and ammunition. So to make a statement of “any yahoo with a gun” is applying your own narrow understanding of your local laws to a place where ownership is truly an investigated privilege and not an over the counter “right”.

  11. bauxjangles - Sep 4, 2013 at 3:35 PM

    How would he feel if Kane held his severed head up when the Blackhawks killed them last year?

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:05 PM

      ok…. that was hilarious.

  12. ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:08 PM

    this story must have gotten a repost on a pretty big hunting site. don’t often see this make ups/downs, and most of them are on the hunting related comments, not the hockey ones.
    just an observation that nobody including me cares about.

    • ibieiniid - Sep 4, 2013 at 4:15 PM

      many* not make

  13. lroc20 - Sep 4, 2013 at 8:29 PM

    Gotta thin out the herd

  14. amityvillefun - Sep 5, 2013 at 1:17 AM

    Arm the bears, make it a challenge.

    Shooting something isn’t heroic. It’s not even difficult. Aim and fire. Wowza. Impressive. A child can pull a trigger.

    Maybe bears should eat more people to thin out the human “herd.”

    It’s sick that he felt compelled to take a photo of himself with the sawed off head. He’ll probably mount it on his wall at home to gloat over his big kill. Wow dude, you are awesome, you can shoot stuff. I wonder if it was like South Park and he had to yell, “He’s coming right for us!” first.

    • bullwinkle88 - Sep 9, 2013 at 1:23 PM

      I always believed that if hunters want a real challenge, they should hunt each other!

      Shooting an unsuspecting animal from 500 yards takes little courage or smarts. However, killing another hunter who is gunning for you takes both.

      I truly believe this should be legalized and hunting animals banned.

      • blomfeld - Sep 9, 2013 at 1:47 PM

        bullwinkle88 – that’s the best damn comment I’ve read here at PHT in months !!!

  15. Lupy Nazty Philthy - Sep 5, 2013 at 7:30 AM

    I have no problems with people hunting when they actually use the meat. It justifies the hunting… but this? All he took were the “trophy” parts? What a waste of an animal’s life. There’s nothing wrong with hunting/fishing when it’s for food. Wild meat is so much healthier for you than the steroid-injected beef, chicken or pork you get in grocery stores. Plus, you can save hundreds of dollars and keep your family fed for a long time.

    And people belittling hunting in general should do some homework. The animals that you get your mass-produced meat produce from are treated far worse. At least wild meat isn’t pumped full of growth hormones and other chemicals, kept in filthy pens or cages, then herded through a killing machine. Enjoy your amonia washed McD’s burgers and the Arnold Schwartzechicken you get at KFC.

  16. bosoxfanpeds - Sep 10, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Freedom…………………………………………………………………….Thank the Lord………………..

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