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Kadri worried about Toronto’s cap issues? ‘That’s not my job’

Aug 20, 2013, 4:15 PM EDT

If you haven’t been keeping tabs on the Maple Leafs this summer, restricted free agent Nazem Kadri is still unsigned.

The Leafs are in a bind with the salary cap with both Kadri and Cody Franson left to get inked to new deals, and with less than $5 million in cap space to get it done, time ticks away.

After breaking out last season, Kadri is in position to cash in and he told Lance Hornby of the Toronto Sun he’s trying to be cool about it.

See, he’s trying to be considerate of the cap but he’s also dealing out a ton of truth. It’s not his job to do that. It’s his job to score goals and get paid whatever he can to do it.

This is where Leafs GM Dave Nonis has put himself in a bit of a bind with the big deals he handed to David Clarkson and Tyler Bozak. Burning compliance buyouts on Mikhail Grabovski and Mike Komisarek drew plenty of criticism as it was while other players could’ve been chosen.

Now he’s got to find a way to appease both remaining RFAs and stay under the cap. Leafs faithful has to hope Nonis has a trade trick up his sleeve to solve this situation.

  1. endusersolutions2013 - Aug 20, 2013 at 4:27 PM

    Bozak at 1.4 mill and 28 points does not seem out of line at all.

    • endusersolutions2013 - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:19 PM

      OK, thumb downers, maybe I’m missing something – feel free to enlighten.

      • logicalcomment - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:21 PM

        he’s not making 1.4 mill anymore

        http://capgeek.com/player/739

      • 19to77 - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:23 PM

        Bozak’s making $4.2m a season for the next five years, so that might factor into it just a little.

      • endusersolutions2013 - Aug 20, 2013 at 7:52 PM

        now I get it. I made the mistake of looking at the Yahoo team roster. I use CapGeek myself, dumb of me not checking there 1st.

    • kaptaanamerica - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:22 PM

      Are you trying to be funny? Or are you clueless about what nonis did with his signings this summer?

  2. 19to77 - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:42 PM

    Is it just me or does Kadri sound like he’s trying to justify having not agreed on a number yet?

    “In my own opinion, I’m being very reasonable. Then again, worrying about the cap isn’t my responsibility anyway.”

  3. cameltoews - Aug 20, 2013 at 5:56 PM

    What is reasonable to him? You are right. Is 6 mill a year reasonable to him? I wonder how much he thinks he is worth. I think 3 to 4 mill is where you want to be with him. He had a good year but is still unproven in a full season

    • kaptaanamerica - Aug 20, 2013 at 6:39 PM

      The guy isn’t worth anywhere near that much. He should get a bridge deal for 2.25-2.75 or so… for two years to see what he can really do…

      • dueman - Aug 20, 2013 at 8:20 PM

        Wow, I can’t believe that I just gave you a thumbs up, not once, but on two comments in a row, on a Leaf story at that! I think I’m in the f’n twilight zone. You are absolutely right. One good HALF a season does not equate into 4 or 5 million like everybody keeps talking. He’ll sign, and probably right in the range that you said. Everybody had Subban pegged for 5-5.5 million per and what did he end up signing for? The media is just blowing this up so they can keep hockey fans interest in August.

      • Lupy Nazty Philthy - Aug 20, 2013 at 10:16 PM

        Yeah, that was a weird up thumb to give lol.

        I agree completely. Anything over 3M at his point his career would be a lot. He would most likely live up to it, but he hasn’t proved to be a consistent scorer yet. 48 games is not a big enough sample size.

        Dueman, some people are even comparing him to Landeskog in Colorado… Like he should be making Landeskog money. Landeskog played a full year, won the Calder AND was the youngest captian ever in the NHL. Kadri’s not in the same category at all… It’s crazy how the media is hyping it.

        If you go by Subban, he had two full seasons under his belt when he signed for 2.8. Kadri who has a lot less experience, should make somewhat less than that.

      • kaptaanamerica - Aug 21, 2013 at 6:56 AM

        I just tell it like i see it, which may not be how you all see things on occasion… Lols

  4. mlblogsbufnyfan - Aug 20, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    If Kadri was a “team” player he would agree to re-negotiate his contract after he completes a “full” season—he sounds like a greedy petulant little child who isn’t going to resign until he gets his way

    • micasa81 - Aug 20, 2013 at 7:03 PM

      Why should he have to “be a team player” (i.e. take less than he’s worth) when his GM blew a bunch of money signing other players? He’s just speaking the truth – it’s not at all his job to worry about the cap.

      • dueman - Aug 20, 2013 at 8:22 PM

        You’re funny lol

    • hockey412 - Aug 21, 2013 at 8:08 AM

      Gad comments like that make me sick to my stomach. We should all be team players and work for less than we’re worth as dictated by the market. Actually – scratch that, we should abolish the concept of market value, enter into a communistic state, and let the government TELL us what we’re worth and what we will be doing with our lives.

      As it is, he stated he was taking the cap into consideration. I agree with him…he shouldn’t have to do that. It’s the concept of being an RFA, someone can certainly make him an offer, and that might be what he’s looking for…and that’s perfectly fine. If he meant that much to the Leafs, they’d have made him a priority. If they can’t come to an agreement, trade him, get value – that’s hockey, it’s a business as well as a sport. Either way, NONE of that amounts to being a greedy petulant little child. He’s an athlete, that’s a part of the deal.

      • dueman - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:06 AM

        “As it is, he stated he was taking the cap into consideration. I agree with him” – How do you know that he really is? Are you sitting in on the negotiations? If he was being reasonable then he would be signed, period. He is obviously asking for more than the Leafs are willing to give him at this point. It’s quite obvious too, that he is talking to the media to try to get the fans to create some pressure on the team to give him some leverage, which he doesn’t have. He’ll sign a bridge deal (like he should, because he really hasn’t proved anything yet) or he’ll be watching the Leafs play without him until he does. Yes he is being greedy, or he would be signed. The “child” part comes from the crap that he is saying to the media. You haven’t heard Franson, or Stepan, or any of the other remaining RFA’s in the league talking to the media about how “reasonable” they are being, and that it’s “all on the team now” do you?

      • hockey412 - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:48 AM

        You cut off my quote in an unfortunate place…I agree with him that taking the cap into consideration is not his job. I answered this below, but to your statement about saying he’s being childish because of his comment about being reasonable, no…I don’t believe that makes him childish. I think that’s just a difference of opinion.

      • dueman - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:06 PM

        It’s not necessarily what he said. It’s the fact that he is talking to the media about his contract negotiation period that I find childish, and I like Kadri. Like I said, you don’t hear any of the other RFA’s talking about their negotiations do you? He needs to keep his mouth shut about it all because all it’s doing is making people think he is being greedy. I’m not sure if his agent is telling him to talk about it, but it’s not the right move, and he doesn’t deserve 4-5 million for one good half season.

      • dueman - Aug 21, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        TSN has the whole story, and this is a direct quote from Kadri,

        “The closer it comes to training camp, it becomes more and more of a distraction,” Kadri said. “That said, I’m being more than reasonable. Right now, it’s their decision to make.”

        What does that sound like to you? To me it sounds like Kadri is saying “I want this much, take it or leave it.” Also if he was being “more than reasonable” then he would have been signed a long time ago. But hey, think what you want…

  5. Lupy Nazty Philthy - Aug 20, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    I like Kadri and all, but the guy (or more likely his agent) needs a reality check. He’s never played a full 82 game season. Yes, he had a good post-lockout season last year, but he was slumping at the end of the 48 games. How long would that slump have lasted if the season was 82 games? Kadri still has a lot to prove.

    He needs to take the same sort of bridge contract PK Subban did in Montreal. $2.5 to 3.0M/year for two years. For one, if he keeps playing the way he does he’ll be able to ask for a lot more money than he can now. Plus, the cap will have gone back up and the team will actually have room to sign him long term for what he wants.

    • hockey412 - Aug 21, 2013 at 8:11 AM

      Why does he need a reality check? Where in the article does it say what he’s even asking for?

      It says that he is in position to cash in (up for debate) but it doesn’t say he’s trying to. Maybe I missed something…but I see comments saying he’s being unreasonable and I can’t even see what he’s saying he wants????

      • hockeydon10 - Aug 21, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        Well, this is the internet. You know how it goes.

        Poster #1: He’s being unreasonable!
        Poster #2: What is he asking for that’s unreasonable?
        Poster #1: I don’t know, but I’m sure it’s unreasonable! RAAAAAGGGGHHHH!

      • dueman - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:16 AM

        hockey412 – It’s not rocket science buddy. If he wasn’t trying to cash in, wouldn’t you think that he would be signed by now? From everything that I have read, he’s looking for a long term deal, which means, he’s not asking for 2-3 mil per. If he’s looking for a long term deal, then yes, he’s trying to cash in on his one good half season of play. It’s not hard to figure out.

      • hockey412 - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:51 AM

        This is what I posted above, I think it applies to you as well:

        “It’s August, though. Pietrangelo hasn’t signed, Johansson hasn’t signed, Stepan hasn’t signed, Henrique hasn’t signed, Hodgson hasn’t signed, etc etc….I’m just not sure it’s a stalemate at this point with any party being unreasonable. For example, the Pens settled most of their deals, but now are over cap and have to make other moves…maybe they are just figuring out exactly what they want to do with him. To me it just doesn’t sound like, at this point, anyone’s being unreasonable.”

        As far as what you’ve read, that’s what I was originally asking…it doesn’t sound like anyone actually has facts as far as what he’s wanting in his contract. He’s got the right to bargain, it’s August. If it’s true and he’s looking for a long term contract at a high dollar mark then sure, I agree with you. But without any facts, nah…I can’t say he’s unreasonable…I haven’t heard any offers from Toronto either. I do know that Toronto is up against it and could be looking at a lot of moves.

      • Lupy Nazty Philthy - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:26 AM

        It’s a pretty safe assumption. He’d be signed by now if he was being reasonable enough to sign for the amount a player who’s never played a full season is worth.

        Him and his agent are obviously holding out for more money, just like Subban did. If he hasn’t signed by the time the season starts he’ll realize he’s just an RFA and if he wants to play he’ll have to sign a bridge contract to prove himself, just like Subban did.

      • hockey412 - Aug 21, 2013 at 10:46 AM

        It’s August, though. Pietrangelo hasn’t signed, Johansson hasn’t signed, Stepan hasn’t signed, Henrique hasn’t signed, Hodgson hasn’t signed, etc etc….I’m just not sure it’s a stalemate at this point with any party being unreasonable. For example, the Pens settled most of their deals, but now are over cap and have to make other moves…maybe they are just figuring out exactly what they want to do with him. To me it just doesn’t sound like, at this point, anyone’s being unreasonable.

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