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PHT Morning Skate: Tim Thomas’ comeback chances look bleak

Jul 29, 2013, 8:00 AM EDT

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PHT’s Morning Skate takes a look around the world of hockey to see what’s happening and what we’ll be talking about around the NHL world and beyond.

Patrick Sharp is an all-star with his name on the Stanley Cup, but he was starstruck when he got to meet LeBron James back in March. (CSN Chicago)

All seems to be quiet on the Tim Thomas front. (Calgary Sun)

Part of the problem is that there might simply be no good fit for Thomas at this point. (Sports Illustrated)

Laurent Brossoit’s stint in the WHL is over, but the 20-year-old goaltender has thoroughly enjoyed his time with the Edmonton Oil Kings. (Flames.nhl.com)

Detroit Red Wings forward Todd Bertuzzi is 38 years old and coming off of an injury-riddled season, but there are reasons to believe that he will bounce back in 2013-14. (Detroit Free Press)

Teams and players have been doing a very good job of avoiding arbitration hearings this summer. (Puck Daddy)

Wiley Sherman was thrilled to be drafted by the Boston Bruins. Starting next season, the 18-year-old defenseman will play for Harvard University. (Bruins.nhl.com)

  1. jacketsfan7 - Jul 29, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    I wouldn’t mind having him in Cbj as a backup , hell of a lot better than leighton

    • valoisvipers - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:10 AM

      I doubt the words Jackets or back up are in Tim’s mind.

  2. charliereno - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:28 AM

    Why WOULD anyone take Thomas? He quit on his team before they could defend their Cup championship, and became an embarassment for his club with the way he shunned a visit to the White House. He’s a selfish jackass that just needs to go away.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:33 AM

      2 Vezinas, a Conn Smythe and single-handedly stealing the Cup for his teams are a few reasons I can think of.

      Lots of athletes skip the presidential visit but it only gets press because the guy in office this time around is a democrat and shunning a democrat in Boston is worse than touching a kid.

      • govtminion - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:42 PM

        I think the fact that he skipped it, then started waving his arms and crowing about WHY he skipped it, would be the reason it got so much attention.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:54 PM

        That’s not what happened at all though. The media wouldn’t leave him alone about it, especially that fat hack Haggerty. It got so bad Thomas had to tell reporters that he would end pressers if they brought up WH stuff.

      • govtminion - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:47 PM

        But the media began following him around to get more sound bites after he offered that first one following the White House issue.

        I won’t waste time saying that it was all Thomas by any means- he got followed around, and it got annoying for sure to keep hearing about it. But he made a big deal out of trying to get attention on the issue in the first place- that’s why there weren’t reporters following Lundquist or Brodeur around all season for the same reason, they weren’t making interesting statements.

        (NOTE: I almost typed Bryzgalov above… oops!)

      • dropthepuckeh - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:48 PM

        I agree with hockeyflow33 completely on this one. TT won the Bruins the Cup and regardless of his politics any team would be lucky to have his skill in net. Haggerty went out of his way to go after Thomas for his politics and created so much of this witch hunt. If the politics were reversed he would be applauded but given it doesn’t match up with the media, he is attacked. Last I checked one of the great things about living in the U.S. is the freedom of religion. It isn’t freedom of religion unless you don’t agree with ours.

        TT had the conviction and passion to sit out a year and forgo $5m in salary. Even if you don’t agree with his politics you have to admire his priorities. It isn’t about money with him, it is about his principles. Name many other athletes like that….

    • girouxed - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:48 AM

      Thats an ignorant comment.

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:21 PM

      You checked Obamas approval ratings most people agree with Thomas anymore

      • galizische - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:45 AM

        Just intelligent people….

    • theskinsman - Aug 3, 2013 at 5:02 AM

      Thomas won his team the Stanley cup, and no one with a working brain cares that he didn’t go to the White House. If he can still play, he’ll be getting a offer. I’m sure he can’t be as bad as Jagr is at 70 years old, and teams still sign him.

  3. mjw9326mjw9326 - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:50 AM

    So let me get this straight. A guy who quit on his team, basically insulted the office of the President of the United States, just because he doesn’t like his politics, has not played for a year and is going to want a ton of money to be a head case player for my franchise.
    I I am a General Manager, I am going to want to sign him because why? Besides, doesn’t Boston still own his NHL rights? That would mean giving up something of a lot of value to my franchise for a maybe. Again, I would aks the question: I really want to sign him because…

    • islesjb - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:08 AM

      No one owns his rights. The Isles made a paper trade for Thomas last season so they had his rights up until this off season. They could have tolled his contract and made him show up for camp if he wanted to play but they opted not to.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      You really don’t know anything about the situation huh?

  4. joey4id - Jul 29, 2013 at 10:55 AM

    I wouldn’t touch Thomas even if he had to stop beach balls in front of regulation size hockey nets. Too old to come back and be effective after sitting out a full year.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:34 AM

      How is it any different than a guy who misses a year with an injury?

      • joey4id - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:26 PM

        Very big difference if the guy is not passed his early 30s.

  5. thesportsjudge - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:23 AM

    I’m sure over the course of an 82 game schedule, some team will lose their starter to injury(long-ish term) and will probably give Timmy a call. The scenario may not be to his liking but, it may be his only opportunity. I would expect to see him in the NHL this season, even if it is like Marty Turco a couple years ago with the Bruins.

    • thesportsjudge - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:24 AM

      I could also see a team like Edmonton or Calgary if their young starters (in waiting?) falter.

  6. jdrew506 - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:47 AM

    Really?!?!?! You are comparing an injured player who had no real choice in the matter to someone who willingly sat out because he thought he was too good to play for the team he was traded too? Any good GM would be weary of this and should say to himself this guy will turn tail on their team if he doesn’t like the situation. That is how this is very different from a player who was out for a year with an injury.

    • islesjb - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:02 PM

      I think you are misunderstanding this situation. When the Isles traded for Thomas they did so with the understanding that he was not going to show up since he already announced he was taking a year off. The trade worked bc Thomas’s contract helped the Isles stay above the salary floor and helped the Bruins stay below the cap ceiling.

      The Isles never intended to have Thomas show up and it was already understood that he would not be playing that year at the time they traded for him. Had he reported, they would have given the Bruins a 2nd round pick but he didn’t so it ended up not costing them anything.

      It was not a matter of Thomas think he was too good to play for the Isles

      • jdrew506 - Jul 29, 2013 at 3:09 PM

        Actually I did understant the situation, I am just trying to say his situation does not equate to a player who sits out because they were injured. That is the statement that I was responding too. And yes i might have been a little strong by saying he did it cause he thought he was better then the team and that is why he did it, but it still does not equate to being an injured player.

      • islesjb - Jul 29, 2013 at 3:33 PM

        Yeah I agree with you that his situation doesn’t equate to that of an injured players. Just the way you described Thomas’s situation/decision making was incorrect. You could argue that he kind of just threw in the towel with the Bruins after the Stanley Cup and that would be somewhat concerning for a GM

    • jasonlanemann - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:09 PM

      He was traded after he had announced he was taking a year off. Being property of the Islanders had nothing to do with him not playing last year.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:57 PM

      Congrats on trying to be smart but coming off like a complete moron because you’re ignorant.

      • jdrew506 - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:33 PM

        Wow what are we 3 years old where we have to call people names because you dont agree with them. Once again i was more pointing out that your statement about him sitting out was not the same as a player who is injured sitting out for a season. A player who sits out for a season because of injury has no choice in that matter, a player like Thomas, who sits out for a year because he wants to leads people to believe he has no commitment to his team or heart for the game. Once again why would any smart GM want that type of person on their team.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 6:50 PM

        So you think a guy who spent almost 10 years playing in Europe and the minors doesn’t have commitment?

        Great point

  7. girouxed - Jul 29, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Respect Tim. One of the best goalies in the last 10 years.

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:23 PM

      Timmy makes that games 6 lead stand up in the finals unlike Rask who gave up two goals in a minute

      • girouxed - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        And yet, Timmy gets thumbs down.

      • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        As a Bruin’s fan, I couldn’t agree with you more.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jul 30, 2013 at 12:33 PM

        it was actually 0:17 seconds. Rask didn’t stop the puck on the game tying goal, which Thomas would have made a play on, rather than getting played and Rask was completely out of position on the game winner.

  8. blomfeld - Jul 29, 2013 at 1:24 PM

    YOU DON’T SUPPOSE ? …

    A thought just occurred to me while reading this article … one which almost has me bursting at the seams with laughter … could Tim Thomas actually end up coming here to Vancouver? … Holy jumping ‘poetic’ justice Batman !!!! :)

    While the idea may sound ludicrous at first, it does start to make sense when you think about it. First of all, Luongo is ‘not’ returning here as evidenced by his refusal to say as much publicly. There are times when ‘silence’ speaks louder than words and I would submit to you friends that ‘this’ is such a time. As a result, the Canucks are now left with two ‘no name’ rookies to start the year in goal. To hell with an Achilles Heel … they’ll be missing an entire leg! Now consider Tim Thomas coming here for a year or two and mentoring the youngsters as they get established etc … makes perfect sense to me. Also worth noting is the fact that such an audacious hiring would be completely ‘consistent’ with this new ‘circus’ line of Canuckle thinking … I believe the idiots are calling it a ‘reset’ or something? First ‘Il Duce’ is hired as the new coach and then some right wing ‘survivalist’ psycho is signed to play goal … oh man, and you thought sales of fire accelerant went through the roof here last time? … you ain’t seen nothing yet ! :) :) :) :) :)

    GO CANUCKS GO !!! … PLEASE SIGN TIM THOMAS ‘ASAP’ !!!!!!!!!!

  9. chazxcore - Jul 29, 2013 at 2:38 PM

    @hockeyfan28 what’s Thomas’ penis taste like?

    • hockeyflow33 - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:19 PM

      I love witty, original retorts like this

    • hockeyfan28 - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:29 PM

      I haven’t been at home Saturday nights with a rubber doll hows that been working out for ya?

  10. pastabelly - Jul 29, 2013 at 5:59 PM

    Thomas last playoffs were one and done against the Caps and he was outplayed by Holtby. He also played pretty mediocre the second half of 2012. You can talk about 2011 all you want. Right now, he is a year removed from the game and not getting any younger. Anyone who believes he would have outperformed Tuukka Rask this past season or is a better goalie right now isn’t in touch with reality. He would be a decent backup, but teams need to question whether his heart is still in it and it’s the most important thing in his life right now. He had some great seasons. That’s all history at this point.

  11. galizische - Jul 30, 2013 at 9:49 AM

    One way to determine all of this chatter is to let him play and see what he’s got left. With his resume, he’s at least allowed one more shot as a starter somewhere in the league.

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