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Madison Square Garden told it has 10 years to move

Jul 25, 2013, 11:01 AM EDT

NEW YORK, NY - MAY 16: Henrik Lundqvist #30 of the New York Rangers prepares to tend net against the New Jersey Devils in Game Two of the Eastern Conference Final during the 2012 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at Madison Square Garden on May 16, 2012 in New York City. The Devils defeated the Rangers 3-2. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images) Getty Images

In what the New York Times describes as “an eviction notice of sorts,” Madison Square Garden — the home of the New York Rangers — has been given 10 years to vacate the premises so that the city can build a new Penn Station.

The arena’s owners, the Madison Square Garden Company — which also owns the Rangers and NBA’s Knicks — had wanted an operating permit in perpetuity. However, the Council voted, 47 to 1, for a decade-long limit.

All this comes as the Garden is completing a three-year renovation with a cost of nearly $1 billion.

How this all plays out remains to be seen. As the Times noted in June, “Even with the Council’s nudge, it will take leadership from Governor Andrew Cuomo and from Washington to move the Garden and re-make the station into a safer, more suitable gateway to New York.”

  1. somekat - Jul 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM

    Regardless, won’t happen unless they give MSG a boatload of money. Maybe if they didn’t just invest a billion dollars in renovating it, they could make some sort of argument about improving the city.

    That’s as long of a stretch as 280 million on a new hockey arena for Detroit being a “good investment” right now, when the could of bought most sports franchises for what they are spending to renovate

    • ravenscaps48 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:28 PM

      Move the Statue of Liberty to put the arena on Liberty Island. Liberty Mutual Arena. Bingo!

      • endusersolutions2013 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        No, if only they could come with a solution for thesuing boat shuttle bottleneck.

      • 950003cups - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        If it weren’t for the NY Knicks, MSG would be moved along side NY’s other 2 winter teams.


    • 950003cups - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:52 PM

      First off, MSG has known that this eviction was on the table for a while now. That’s why the city offered Dolan a chance to take over the US Post Office across the street. Dolan opted to stay because of some tax benefits of some sort he would get for refurbishing MSG.

      It’s been moved before, it’ll be moved again. This is NYC. As nice as the new MSG is (and they did a great job) a newer building will be even nicer.

  2. billsin20xx - Jul 25, 2013 at 11:26 AM

    Erie County had to drag the state to the table to help out with money for our stadium, I wonder how many billions they will give for a new MSG.
    Once again upstate will be paying fpr more NYC improvements!

    • oramisteek - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:03 PM

      Please, upstate NY is a dump. Long Island has long been the ATM for upstate counties. The NYC metro area generates the revenue for the state.

      • johnstone17 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:36 PM

        As far as being a dump upstate, that out of line. But Nassau county is one of the highest taxed counties in the country.

      • dadawg77 - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:48 PM

        So you are saying Illinois isn’t the only state where the Yokels complain about the City stealing revenue from them however the actual numbers say different.

    • kylilin - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

      are you out of your mind?

    • k1211 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      Upstate paying for NYC Improvements? that is a laugh

    • 950003cups - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      “Once again upstate will be paying fpr more NYC improvements!”

      Uhhh… Dude! If it weren’t for NYC taxes, not only would you not have a functioning Upstate NY, but half this country would be in trouble.

      But if you want, I’ll send a letter to Albany, and ask them to allow the citizens of Erie County to keep their $50 a year extra in taxes so they may build an arena of their own.

  3. islesjb - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:02 PM

    Arena uncertainty? What a piece of garbage organization. HA!

    • johnstone17 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:37 PM

      Easy. Your team is finally becoming semi relevant after how long?

      • jl9830 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:22 PM

        I think his point is in the (obvious) sarcasm. The Islanders were unfairly laughed at, not just for the other reasons, but beacuse of the arena uncertainty. Now that it’s the Rangers, I bet they won’t be treated the same way.

        And how ironic will it be if, after a decade-plus of resisting an Islanders arena in Nassau County (even when Wang was fitting the bill), they open the doors to the Rangers?

      • islesjb - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        thank you jl9830 for getting the joke

      • 950003cups - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:53 PM

        But the Isles were a bottom 3 in the EC for how long? Rangers at least are in playoff contention for the last 7 years. Islanders just squeezed in the post season as an 8 seed in the last 2 games.

        You know what else I discovered about Isles fans? Since they had a decent season, their fans act like complete white trash, trailer park idiots. Most are overweight and dirty too.

        I guess that’s what losing teams draw when it’s only $50 to sit FRONT ROW in a NY market.

    • islesjb - Jul 26, 2013 at 12:17 AM

      jesus 95000 I was making a joke. Get off your friggin high horse dude. No one knows more than me that the Isles have been terrible for a very long time. I also know that they were the club that had arena uncertainty for the longest time. That’s why I find it somewhat humorous that once the Isles shored up their arena situation, their NY rivals began having one. That’s it. Relax

      Not to mention, you’re wrong about the Isles “squeezing in” in the last two games. They clinched several games earlier and lost their last few games, thus subjecting themselves to the 8th seed vs the penguins. If they won their last two games they could have been a higher seed. If you’re going to be a big douche, at least get your facts straight.

  4. gmenfan1982 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:09 PM

    I could care less about the details and money and the politics. Places like MSG, Wrigley Field, Lambeau, etc should never be made to shut down. And when they are, they should kept intact and kept up with. Did the Romans destroy the Coloseum? No. Historical stadiums hold precedence over anything else in my opinion. There’s just no appreciation for historically important structures in this country.

    • wingsdjy - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

      Ironic statement considering the historic Penn Station was torn down to build the MSG.

      • mogogo1 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        Guaranteed the new Penn Station won’t hold a candle architecturally to the old one. But the new MSG wherever it ends up will likely be better than the current version.

    • ethanmacleod1685 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:50 PM

      Don’t destroy MSG, just no. No.

      I live in the uk and one of the reasons I plan to return to NY is to go to see the Rangers at MSG. I went there last year, and it was one best experiences ever

      • bdawkins2 - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:08 PM

        This is currently the 4th incarnation of Madison Square Garden. It’s moving no matter what. At the end of the 10 years the building will be 55 years old. It will be replaced. It’s really not that great of a building. If they could replace Yankee Stadium, they can replace MSG. Besides, in 10 years when you go to a Rangers games in the new new new new MSG, it will be a great experience, too.

      • ethanmacleod1685 - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM

        Will the arena still be in manhattan?

    • jl9830 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:25 PM

      MSG has moved locatoins multiple times since it was created.

    • critter69 - Jul 26, 2013 at 2:48 PM

      We should save it, correct?

      But what about the previous three MSGs? Oh, that’s right, they were torn down to make way for other buildings.

      Ain’t free enterprise a pain in the derriere?

  5. semin28 - Jul 25, 2013 at 12:13 PM

    Islanders suck anyway his comment is not valid what so ever

    • jl9830 - Jul 25, 2013 at 1:26 PM

      Islanders are better than both the Caps and Canes (judging by your name, you root for one of these teams).

      • ravenscaps48 - Jul 25, 2013 at 2:09 PM

        Canes yes. Caps? Not a true statement

  6. donniesd - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:25 PM

    Great!!! in a few years I was planning to take my wife to NY on vacation, we have never been there. The caveat for me was going to be a trip to MSG to watch my beloved Rangers play!! Hope it is still around!!!

    • 950003cups - Jul 26, 2013 at 3:58 AM

      You seriously just posted that you wanna take a trip to manhattan to see your “beloved rangers” in a few years and hope MSG is still there?

      Well, here’s two things to consider.

      A) you have at least 10 years to get up off your ass and come.
      B) if its not located on 33rd and 8th Ave, it will be close by. They’re not moving the rangers to Utica.

  7. florida727 - Jul 25, 2013 at 3:27 PM

    Not sure what the big deal is. Sure, pick it up and just move it. What kind of an idiot demand is that? MOVE a freaking arena? What? No crane quite big enough to hoist the thing up so they can just cart it to the Meadowlands or another site? Stupidest demand, arguably, of all time. What they’re telling MSG is that they’re going to demolish it. Period. And that’s a shame. I’ve never been to a game there, but had my picture taken outside the arena. It’s an iconic sports palace. It should be labeled a national landmark. That would protect it from idiot politicians who instead would rather see it torn down.

    • bdawkins2 - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:10 PM

      It’s actually a so-so arena & honestly, rather ugly. Functionally it’s near obsolete & a pint to get to & from your seats, especially in the upper levels. It’s 45 years old. It’s going to be replaced in the not so distant future, regardless of this decision. This might just move ti up a few years.

      • jkay1818 - Jul 25, 2013 at 4:37 PM

        right, totally neglect the billion they just put in to renovate it. the place is awesome now. The food spots alone make it worthwhile to attend a game. 10 years is a long time from now, interesting to see what happens. Hard to discount the facelift it just received. they did a good job.

      • 950003cups - Jul 26, 2013 at 4:06 AM

        I agree the food vendors there are top, and lines are fast. I had a better burger there (for a mere $11) than anywhere in the city. Plus the line was nonexistent. Service was good too. Huge upgrade from the past. I’m not even talking about a regular season hockey game. I’m talking about Knicks vs Celtics Game 1 of the playoffs. If that was a breeze there, I can imagine a regular season game for the rangers.

  8. remosnozzberri82 - Jul 25, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    Those upper mezzanine seats with the glass walls separating you from falling to your death are sweat. You feel like your floating over rink

  9. northstarnic - Jul 25, 2013 at 9:24 PM

    Government at its finest. Why don’t we just see how big a pile of $100 bills we can make, then light it on fire?

  10. northstarnic - Jul 25, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Just for the record, New York Islanders: four Stanley Cups in my lifetime. New York Rangers: one Stanley Cup in my lifetime.
    So there’s that.

  11. gizzmonic - Jul 28, 2013 at 9:25 AM

    move it to madison wisconsin

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