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Sens president isn’t sure if Alfredsson’s number will be retired

Jul 9, 2013, 8:04 AM EDT

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Senators president Cyril Leeder is in the process of determining how the Ottawa Senators should proceed from a marketing perspective without their former captain, Daniel Alfredsson.

The 40-year-old forward had been the face of the franchise for so long. He’s the franchise leader in games and with 1108 career points, he has a huge lead on the team’s all-time scoring race over Jason Spezza, who ranks second with 621.

Of course, Alfredsson will be playing for the Detroit Red Wings next season and that has to sting for Ottawa. At the same time, given the impact he’s had on the Senators franchise, he’s still a lock to get his No. 11 retired, right?

“We’ll see,” Leeder told the Ottawa Sun.

“I’m not going to prejudge that now. That’s an announcement that should come at a different point in time.”

Leeder was also asked if the door would be open to Alfredsson returning to the team in a non-playing capacity after his retirement.

“I don’t think that was a foregone conclusion, that Daniel was going to come and work for the organization,” Leeder said. “I know that had been talked about by a number of people but I think that’s still to be determined in the future.”

Leeder doesn’t “necessarily agree” with Alfredsson’s believe that the Detroit Red Wings will provide him with a better chance to win than Ottawa and he’s hoping to prove Alfredsson wrong in that regard.

“But we don’t begrudge him that fact,” Leeder said. “He’s certainly earned the right to make that decision after all he’s given us. We wish him well, except for the four or five nights a year we play him.”

What happens after 2013-14 though, seems to be up in the air.

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  1. wingz101 - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:13 AM

    What else can he say right now? The entire city (in which I live) is still shocked, but 75% of the fans are miffed at Melnyk, not #11.

    People will come around. Alfie took them as far as he could. His leaving is like turning the page on the early days of the team. He’ll be back.

    • rsmaggiemae - Jul 9, 2013 at 1:04 PM

      I live in Minnesota, and what I dont understand about him leaving, is that he waited 18 years to make the move???? No offense to the Ottawa fans but he should have realizied about 10 years ago it was not going to happen… I think it is really a shame that he did this to his team, but then in the play offs he did make the remarks about the team being finished…and not going much further.
      I know thesee guys are older and want to win a cup but everyone wants to win a cup but to do this to the city of Ottawa is just terrible. and he just won a award for his community work in Ottawa It was noted that the Swedish Mafia of the Redwings persuaded him to make the jump. I think players should not stick thier noses in other people business when it comes to something like this, it should be between the player, his agent and the teams Gm NOT other players from other teams giving thier input
      I hope his moving to Detroit ends up like Iginla and Jagr with thier moves… NO CUP

      • bruinspaw - Jul 9, 2013 at 1:38 PM

        This comments just as classless as CSI:Ottawa itself. Maybe he decided that after 18 years of being faithful and loyal to a club that undervalued him he thought he deserved a chance to be paid what his worth and actually have a chance of winning the cup before he retires. Nothing wrong with that.

      • hazlydose - Jul 9, 2013 at 3:05 PM

        Yeah he should have left years ago! Those Ottowa teams he played on were terrible and always ended up in the bottom of the league! You know except for that Stanley Cup Final they played in six years ago. SMH…

      • 2late2matter - Jul 13, 2013 at 12:06 PM

        Recall Marian Hossa left Pittsburg for the Red Wings, and didn’t win the cup. Then left Detroit, went to Chicago and has won back-2-back’s.

        In another sport (football) arguably the best running back ever – Barry Sanders – just one day up and quit the team after they wouldn’t cut him loose to play for a SB contender. So athletes indeed ultimately play for the ring in their sport, and few retire never having contributed to a team that has won one. Playing strictly for money never got anyone into a HOF.

      • 2late2matter - Jul 13, 2013 at 12:18 PM

        Agree that @rsmaggiemae’s comments are fairly lame and devoid of any argumentative basis: Ottawa has indeed lost a very good player who put in his blood, sweat and tears for a long time and finally thought he’d sign on to a team (notice no trade was done) with some playoff potential.

        The supposed “Swedish Mafia” of the DRW’s were once the “Russian Mafia”, probably no less than the Montreal Canadians had their “Canadian Mafia”. Give us all a break and take a deep breath. Hadn’t noticed all that hot air coming from Minnesota until now.

  2. Tyler - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM

    Not a Senators fan but it would be downright low if they didn’t retire Alfie’s number after all he’s done for the organization.

  3. heynyc61 - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:30 AM

    Employers have no loyalty to anyone but to themselves. They probably thought no one would want him… I don’t think the Red Wings are cup contenders but he will have a fun season with a bunch of fellow seeds Good for him

  4. howintensive - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:34 AM

    A parallel can be drawn with Brett Favre here: if he had retired with the Packers and didn’t go to those other teams, his #4 would have been retired right away. But since he did go to New York and Minnesota, we’re only now hearing talks of his number being retired.

    • comeonnowguys - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:57 AM

      There’s really not much of a parallel.

      Favre flat out retired. Gone from football. The Packers were finally able to get Rodgers, their clear QB of the future, into the mix. Then Favre un-retires and expects to start, causing a summer’s worth of drama. That he later wound up in division rival Minnesota irritated my Packer fan friends, but by then they were already plenty angry with him. That was just the clincher.

    • cheliostwin - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:28 AM

      The Stars retired Mike Modano’s number after he went to Detroit for a year. Of course, they resigned him to a $9 million contract the next year, and he retired the day before the season started, so that he could retire as a Star.

  5. comeonnowguys - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    So, when a team waives or trades a player, it’s business. When a player chooses to leave a team, it’s personal?

  6. pastabelly - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    Hey Cyril Leeder, before today I’ve never heard of you. Now, when you have something to say, everyone thinks you’re a douchebag. Congratulations.

  7. pastabelly - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:06 AM

    One thing Leeder is right about is Ottawa and Detroit. It’s pretty much a coin flip over which team will have a better record. Detroit could conceivably miss the playoffs. They are not a lock to finish ahead of Boston, Montreal, Ottawa, or even Toronto in their own division.

    • lostpuppysyndrome - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      Maybe not to finish ahead of them, but once they make the playoffs all bets are off. They have essentially the same team as last year, plus Alfredsson and Weiss. I’d call that an improvement, especially if Weiss can stay healthy.

      • channelguy - Jul 9, 2013 at 10:45 AM

        WHEN they make the playoffs? Detroit squeaked into the playoffs by ONE POINT on the last weekend of the season. We aren’t talking Scotty Bowman’s Habs here in terms of the team being a strong contender to win next year, or even being a contender.

        The Wings have much the same team as last year yes, but that’s not necessarily a good thing. Detroit isn’t a young team like Ottawa or Toronto where you can reasonably expect most of the players will improve next year. Detroit has a lot of older guys, and older guys in key roles. And while fans like to think star players will just keep on chugging until they retire, sometimes they do just lose it.

        Ottawa has owner financial issues which are hurting the team, and despite the Ryan trade, it’s hard to see them as being stronger now than at the end of last year. But I think they have as much chance to win next year as Detroit. They are both longshots who might win if everything broke right for them.

  8. scionofflame - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:15 AM

    For a guy that’s been on the team until he turned 41, put everything he had into trying to help them and CONSISTENTLY undervalued himself, I would be incredibly disappointed in the Senators franchise if they didn’t retire his number.

    For all the hurt feelings and wailing, he is still a man that did an incredible amount for both the city and team in that area. So he wants to have a chance to win a Stanley Cup before he completely loses his drive? So did Ray Borque. Different circumstances, but still. Cut the man a break. He wants to do what all hockey players do before they stop playing the game…hoist the Cup!

  9. jaguar0413 - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    What an idiotic comment. Show some class. Sens lowballed their franchise player, so he took a better deal. Get over it. Who else’s number are they going to retire? Alexei Yashin? Wade Redden? Alexandre Daigle? They’re obviously going to retire Alfredsson’s jersey.

    Alfredsson isn’t the first player to leave a team late in his career in order to try to get to a better situation. Just look at Mike Modano and Luc Robitaille in Detroit, Scott Niedermayer in Anaheim, or Mats Sundin in Vancouver. Stop crying about it.

    • jaybaileys - Jul 9, 2013 at 11:50 AM

      definitely Yashin, or Ruutu

  10. yougotgirouxed - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:19 AM

    #butthurtottawa

  11. jax2626 - Jul 9, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    Alfredsson is a less than 1 point per game performer – now don’t get me wrong, they got a ton of mileage out of him considering that he was a 6th round pick and he has a ton of non-stat related qualities but I don’t necessarily think that either of those additional facts warrants them retiring his number.

    I don’t think that anyone else has done more for the organization from a player perspective and maybe that is enough but statistically, there are a ton of players with more overall points and better point/game averages that don’t have their numbers retired.

    • jburrell4 - Jul 9, 2013 at 10:35 AM

      So your criteria for having a number retired is being at least a point per game player? Hopefully you’re just talking about forwards…. Anyway, we aren’t talking about the hall of fame. We are talking about a player’s contribution to a specific franchise over time. As you stated in your post – on the ice, off the ice – either way, it is going to be factored in. Your argument against Alf having his number retired by the Sens is defeated. By itself…. His number is going to be retired by them. As a previous poster noted, everyone is all emotional right now. It will get done.

  12. chazxcore - Jul 9, 2013 at 10:26 AM

    Give it a few years. Time heals all
    Wounds.

  13. beelza - Jul 9, 2013 at 10:56 AM

    Great way to treat a living legend. Anyone who still thinks this Murray / Alfie debacle is Alfie’s fault, they need to reread this article. Insulting Alfie wasn’t good enough, so now they drag his reputation through the mud, finally tarnishing his legacy. Sens ownership are clowns. That’s fine though, Detroit will give him the same post-career role Lidstrom has-do whatever you want and get paid for it. A disgrace how Alfie is being treated by ownership.

  14. mathieug79 - Jul 9, 2013 at 11:13 AM

    This is just someone asking President, hey do you think Ottawa will retire Alfie’s Jersey? and he probably simply replied ;”I don’t know”…meaning he didn’t know… have you ever thought of that before making this headline???

    • valarmorghuliss - Jul 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM

      Read the article idiot

      • mathieug79 - Jul 9, 2013 at 1:55 PM

        NOOOO!!!!!!!!

  15. valarmorghuliss - Jul 9, 2013 at 11:42 AM

    Classless organization

    Here’s to hoping it continues to win nothing

  16. keenerthanyou1 - Jul 9, 2013 at 12:51 PM

    Hey Cyril, bitter much?

  17. jernster21 - Jul 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM

    He isn’t sure if his number will be retired……..because he hasn’t retired. The fact that the conversation is being had at this point is a waste of time…the guy still wants to play.

  18. caliscooter - Jul 9, 2013 at 4:09 PM

    Reminds me of the tumultuous ride of the Blackhawks and Bobby Hull… It took time, and dramatic scenery change in Chicago… but now what was broken is fixed. I would be surprised if the same did not happen in Ottawa.

  19. neelyisgod - Jul 9, 2013 at 5:37 PM

    Really?!? Ray Bourque had his number retired by BOTH the Bruins and his Cup winning rental team the Avalanche.

    Im not an Ottawa fan but am a hockey fan and believe Alfredsson meant as much to Ottawa as #77 meant to the Bruins

  20. gatorjr - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Any jersey should not be retired until AFTER that player retires, doesn’t matter which player or for what team. For a hockey player winning a CUP is what life is about!!! Let’s Go Red Wings!!!!!

  21. gatorjr - Jul 9, 2013 at 8:55 PM

    The Wings thank Ottawa for your support!!!

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