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Did the Senators low-ball Alfredsson?

Jul 7, 2013, 5:10 PM EDT

Daniel Alfredsson AP

Is it possible that Daniel Alfredsson‘s shocking decision to leave Ottawa after 18 years and sign with Detroit was a matter of disrespect?

It may be the case as Elliotte Friedman of CBC discussed in his story examining what happened between the two sides.

Apparently Alfredsson had always taken less than he was worth through his time in Ottawa and that was something Senators GM Bryan Murray was counting on when he made his offer to the now former captain.

As Friedman put it (rather perfectly) that didn’t sit well with him.

“And sometimes, you feel the team takes advantage of you. When Alfredsson heard his ask was unfair after almost a decade of team-friendly cap hits, he probably powerbombed a Volvo.”

Alfredsson wound up getting a one-year deal with the Red Wings for $5.5 million and Murray was left to talk about Sens owner Eugene Melnyk’s “blank check” offer. As Friedman noted, that likely came after Alfredsson hadn’t spoken with the team for a while.

If the Senators could turn back time, they’d probably like a do-over on how this was handled.

  1. maria716 - Jul 7, 2013 at 5:32 PM

    People constantly complain about how some players get outrageous contracts & are vastly overpaid (which I agree with most of the time), but, conversely, if a player tries to do the right thing & doesn’t play hardball, too often he will get screwed. If this report is true the Senators organization owes Alfredsson a public apology.

    • withseidelinn - Jul 7, 2013 at 5:42 PM

      I agree, after 17(?) years with the team he pretty much deserves to write himself a blank cheque. Given how he had taken below market value on all his previous contracts, it would have been safe to assume both parties could have reached a reasonable amount. Poor management. But I guess Bryan Murray did make up for it with Bobby Ryan.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 7, 2013 at 9:04 PM

        Bobby Ryan an equal to Daniel Alfredson????

        For shame Senator decision makers……….for shame..

        This POOR decision will haunt you.


      • somekat - Jul 7, 2013 at 9:21 PM

        If i’m not a Flyers fan, I want no parts of Bobby Ryan. Once he can become an UFA, he’s going to Philly, bank on it. His family lives in vorhees, he played on the junior flyers, his dad is like best friends with Bobby Clarke. The only reason he isn’t a Flyers now is a combo of the Ducks not wanting to send him exactly where he wanted, and the Flyers not wanting to give up much for a guy they know they can get for free in 2 years

  2. arlingtonrob - Jul 7, 2013 at 5:36 PM

    Low-ball offer? What the….?

    Please…I need a couple high balls to deal with all the melodrama that surrounds the hurt feelings of pampered athletes and billionaire owners.

    After 18 years you’d think a working relationship just might exist. Pick up the damn phone and make a call…sort it out. It’s a negotiation isn’t it? If both sides want to continue their relationship, communicate and make it happen.

    Alfredsson certainly doesn’t need the money, so it’s rather clear that he thinks he has a better chance to win as a member of the Red Wings.

    Gotta admit…I’d be amused if the Sens won the Cup next year.

    • withseidelinn - Jul 7, 2013 at 5:43 PM

      Marian Hossa situation 2.0 haha

    • jakreidler - Jul 7, 2013 at 5:45 PM

      That is exactly how I felt after that lockout negotiation where the owners wanted to “leave the room” because of an “insulting” offer from the players. These guys have been multi million/billion dollar business professionals for how many years?

      • arlingtonrob - Jul 7, 2013 at 6:00 PM

        We’re in a hard cap era correct?

        That’s why teams and players negotiate. The Sens would luv to have Alfredsson return, but they also are attempting to improve the club (eg. Bobby Ryan), all while working within the financial framework of the new CBA and the pending lowered cap.

        I don’t buy the idea that Alfredsson’s feelings were hurt, but if they were he’s a prima donna.

        The Sens future looks bright and Alfredsson is nearing the end of his career, and it’s unfortunate that career won’t end where it started.

        But Alfredsson has made his choice, and the Sens must simply move on without him…he was about done anyhow.

  3. chazxcore - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:01 PM

    That picture makes him look like he playing is a Norwegian Black Metal band.

    • PhillySN - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:28 PM


      • chazxcore - Jul 7, 2013 at 8:02 PM

        The black around his head looks like he has long black hair and he is from that area of the world (I know Sweden is different from Norway). Norwegian Black Metal is a musical genre.

  4. paul621 - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:13 PM

    “When Alfredsson heard his ask was unfair after almost a decade of team-friendly cap hits, he probably powerbombed a Volvo.”

    What the hell is an “ask”? Powerbomb a Volvo? Is this even English?

  5. aldog83 - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:25 PM

    I think Hossa has appeared in 3 Stanley Cup Finals with
    3 different teams.

    Definitely made mistake letting Hossa go.

    Alfredsson is not the same.

    Should have not got this this with him.

    Shame on SENS.

    • hockeydon10 - Jul 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM

      4 Cup Finals.

      Wings (LGRW!)

  6. elrock7 - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:26 PM

    This is so typical Ottawa. Bryan Murray looking shocked, and Melnyk looking like an idiot as usual!

  7. uscthom78 - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:28 PM

    It’s pretty clear Eugene melynk graduated from the Jeffrey Loria School of Sports Management.

  8. tsrblue - Jul 7, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    A Red Wing fan would like to thank the Sens!!!!

    • arlingtonrob - Jul 7, 2013 at 8:32 PM

      5.5M for a soon to be 41 year old forward?
      Don’t get too excited. I think your cap space would be better used signing Brunner to a long term deal.

      • clefty1 - Jul 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM

        A one year contract and having him play alongside Datsyuk, Zetterberg or both, you did not think about that did you. Alfredsson will put some pucks into the net and he will help the Wings PP which struggled.

      • polegojim - Jul 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM

        No Rob… 5.5 M for ALFIE… it’s not just a blanket ‘age’ statement.

      • cheliostwin - Jul 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        And it is only a $3.5 million cap hit, there was $2 million in optional bonuses.

      • arlingtonrob - Jul 9, 2013 at 6:20 PM

        No…the bonuses are not “optional” and they are factored into AAV….5.5M cap hit

  9. Habib Marwan - Jul 7, 2013 at 9:22 PM

    ever stop to think he’s just tired of playoff futility year in and year out?

  10. laxman1944 - Jul 7, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Sometimes it’s NOT about the numbers.

    Sometimes it’s about the loyalty to a warrior who gave all he had.

    AN observation

    • arlingtonrob - Jul 7, 2013 at 11:50 PM

      You’re correct…it is about loyalty.

      But the last time I checked loyalty is a two-way street.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 8, 2013 at 9:26 AM

        According to article he took home team friendly contracts for most if not all of his career there.

        So, the two-way street statement is not going to fly.

        They dropped the ball on this one…’s a shame really.

  11. sjm1717 - Jul 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Alfredsson is not worth 5.5 million…can’t believe Detroit gave him that

    • clefty1 - Jul 8, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      It is a one year deal plus he will be playing with Datsyuk or Zetterberg or both.

      • hosewater2 - Jul 8, 2013 at 1:04 PM

        You could put a cardboard cutout of Brett Hull on the ice with Datsyuk and Zetterberg and it would score 20 goals guaranteed.

  12. kaptaanamerica - Jul 7, 2013 at 10:44 PM

    He didn’t take the maximum the market offered on previous deals by choice.he didn’t leave too much on the table and probably made up for it in endorsements.I don’t like the way he left.the team would have made up any perceived money difference by keeping him on as an executive after he it stands Notre he’s burned a bridge with the one team that invested in him and that he invested in also.doesn’t make much sense to me.the way I see if Alfie wanted to stay he would have.hope the Sens spank the wings.

    • cheliostwin - Jul 8, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      The Detroit Free Press reported that Alfredsson spent a couple of weeks talking to Zetterberg while they were both back in Sweden, and apparently the “winning culture” throughout the Wings organization is what convinced him to sign with Detroit. I don’t think it was about the money he was offered, he clearly said his dream is to win a Stanley Cup, and he thought that Detroit gives him the best chance of doing that.

  13. channelguy - Jul 7, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Melnyk, the Ottawa owner, who has been a financially stable owner for most of his tenure, is having financial issues with his core business – and has ALLEGEDLY been using the team as a piggybank. The result is that the Sens are not up against the cap, but are following a self-imposed ceiling well below it. That’s why Murray is pinching pennies. And indirectly, it’s why they lost Alfredsson.

    • arlingtonrob - Jul 7, 2013 at 11:54 PM

      Really…after 18 years it’s suddenly about pinching pennies. And Melnyk is using the Sens as a piggy bank? You need to be very wealthy own a hockey club, but you don’t GET wealthy owning a hockey club. At least not until you sell your share.

      Not buying it.

    • hockeydon10 - Jul 8, 2013 at 10:16 AM

      Thank you! I thought I read the same thing. Something around a $50M internal cap.

  14. ducksk - Jul 8, 2013 at 12:04 AM

    1 of the all time worst captains in NHL history. Overrated, overpaid, and underachiever.

  15. skarfacci - Jul 8, 2013 at 12:40 PM

    This is about Alfredsson winning a cup…which he desperately wants to do before retiring. No disrespect to Ottawa but they aren’t serious about winning.

  16. skarfacci - Jul 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM

    Oh and by the way…Elliot Freidman is a talking out his you know what. Teams won’t release why they don’t sign someone. They can’t afford the bad publicity. He’s embellishing.

  17. hosewater2 - Jul 8, 2013 at 12:58 PM

    As a hockey decision only, great move by Ottawa.

    I like the Red Wings, but this is a terrible signing. Alfie has been an awesome player, and he will benefit from being on a line with Datsyuk and Zetterberg, but let’s be honest now, so would anyone, including a myriad of players who would come with half that cap hit. If this signing keeps them from bringing back Brunner, that’s a bad move.

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