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Report: Stars acquire Horcoff from Oilers for Larsen, pick

Jul 4, 2013, 8:48 PM EDT

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The Dallas Stars went from a team that was light on centers to one with three new options in that spot on Thursday.

First, they acquired Tyler Seguin and Rich Peverley via a blockbuster trade with the Boston Bruins. That wasn’t GM Jim Nill’s only big swap of the day, as he’s reportedly on the verge of landing Edmonton Oilers center Shawn Horcoff, according to TSN’s Bob McKenzie and Darren Dreger.

Update: the Oilers received defenseman Philip Larsen and the Stars’ seventh-round pick in 2016, Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos reports.

One could also argue that Horcoff, 34, replaces much of what was lost when the Stars traded their former captain Brenden Morrow. Both are well-respected, blood-and-guts (former) captains whose contracts draw criticism.* Each player wears No. 10, as well.

Horcoff carries a $5.5 million cap hit through 2014-15. If the Stars have any concerns about hitting the cap floor, his deal could be a benefit, though; his salary is lower than his cap hit in the two final seasons ($4 million in 2013-14 and $3 million in 2014-15).

From the Oilers’ perspective, one could say that the team completed the transition from being Horcoff’s team to budding stars such as Taylor Hall taking over.

In more direct terms, Edmonton dumps some salary and possibly bolsters its shaky defense by adding Larsen, who has 95 NHL games of experience at 23.

* Or drew criticism, in the case of impending free agent Morrow.

  1. ethanmacleod1685 - Jul 4, 2013 at 8:57 PM

    Acquiring Jim Nill as GM was clearly genius, Dallas looking on the up right now !

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM

      I’ve been very impressed with what he’s done. Dallas will look drastically different next season, and that’s a good thing.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:16 PM

      Ditto both of your comments. Will be fin to watch how the team will gel.

      • valoisvipers - Jul 4, 2013 at 11:04 PM

        I don’t like the Ericson for Seguin trade.Lou is a proven commodity where as Seguin is still a work in progress. Maybe Nil could trade Seguin for Doughty and then Tyler could party with Carter and Richards.

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 11:11 PM

        Agreed! Like I said in a previous comment, who gets the best of this trade may very well be determined by how well the secondary players develop.

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 11:13 PM

        valosvipers, you should come around here more often. Nice to get your insight. You’re one of the few here on PHT that understands the game.


  2. malvaren18 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Oilers should get Tyler Seguin for horcoff

  3. 19to77 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:10 PM

    Peverly, Horcoff and Erik Cole on the same team means a lot of fairly highly-paid, underperforming 30+ year olds in Dallas. And that’s assuming Gonchar actually earns his $5m a year. I think Nill will steer the Stars in a good direction, but I really wonder what all these over-the-hill guys are meant to do. There are definitely cheaper ways to bring in veteran role players.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:21 PM

      True! However, this is a team in transition, and I doubt anyone will think of them as cup contenders. They are planting the seeds to change the dynamics of the team. New attitude will breed to new opportunities for the future. Nill is laying the foundtion to bring out a change in attitude. Remember what they said about Ruff. He fits in well because they want stabilty. They want his stability (BTW, I did critize his hiring) to help build the future of this organization.

  4. einjzmolf - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    Nill just robbed EDM though. Larsen and a 7th, i’ll take the cap hit to get rid of that garbage.

    • ray2013 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:27 PM

      & Oiler fans are saying, you’ll take that garbage off our hands if we take Larsen & a 7th? You have yourself a deal.

      • einjzmolf - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:30 PM

        I’d rather have someone up front doing nothing rather than an undersized wimp causing turnovers at the red line all day. That’s just personal preference when given the two options though.

      • ray2013 - Jul 5, 2013 at 12:45 AM

        To be fair to Horcoff, most Oiler fans are idiots. Horcoff played all of the tough minutes for the Oilers the last two years to protect their young, undersized centers Nuge & Gagner. All the big defensive draws, PK, etc. He took a lot of flak from Oiler fans, but he was a total class act the whole time he was in Edmonton. I was hoping he’d be bought out by the Oilers, so that he could pick a team of his choosing, but Dallas seems on the way up. Judging from comments from Star fans, MacT just got owned by Nill. Hope he has a great run in Dallas.

  5. shanesander - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:31 PM

    Jamie Benn/Tyler Seguin Dallas is set up the middle with a solid 1-2 punch they havent had since Mike Modano/Joe Nieuwendyk. Horcoff will be a good 3/4 center that can just do PK/faceoffs

    • einjzmolf - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:38 PM

      Jamie Benn will be moving to wing, that was the whole reasoning behind getting Tyler Seguin.

      • 19to77 - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:29 PM

        Really? Seguin’s not a great center. Boston’s tried that a couple times and they always move him back fast. Is Benn noticeably better on the wing?

      • einjzmolf - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:52 PM

        Benn playing center was a failed project due to Nieuwendyk’s incompetence to actually be a GM. Rather than get a center to work with him, he just put Benn at center. His production dropped dramatically, but I think he didn’t want to play for that idiot coach Dallas had last year to boot. I think seguin could develop into a good center in due time, but that’s the thing.

  6. murtdurt - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

    Jim Nill isn’t messin around

  7. Brian - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    I am stunned that the Oilers got somebody to take Horcoff without taking a similarly bad contract in return. It is amazing that MacTavish got positive value for a guy who was a whisker away from a compliance buyout. Incredible. Dallas got fleeced. Horcoff’s health has completely deteriorated since his 2008 shoulder/knee problems. He can’t stay in the lineup, and when he is in the lineup he always has something wrong with him that limits his effectiveness. His offensive game has completely dried up, and even his faceoff skills have become pretty hit or miss. I don’t even care if Larsen can’t play in the NHL. A depth defenseman only making a million for one more season and a low draft pick? Amazing trade.

    Really standup guy, though. Good luck in the future, Horc.

    • gbfb88 - Jul 5, 2013 at 9:53 AM

      Dallas did not get “fleeced” in this trade. They got a (at worst) #3 center with great experience, toughness, and leadership for a kid who couldn’t beat out Aaron Rome as the #6 Defenseman.

      As far as his “bad contract” goes, Dallas needed to put some money on the books. Before yesterday’s acquisitions, Dallas had over $13 million in cap space. Now, it’s a little over $5.6 million in space, needing only a winger & back up goalie to fill the roster (odds are those players are Nichushkin & Nilstorp, a combined number of $1.55 mil). They also have the flexibility to move the $3.3 million contracts of either Stephane Robidas, or Trevor Daley.

      I think both teams got a piece to work with. Larson can be a good top 4 D-man, but he’s still very raw (which has a lot to do with poor coaching in Dallas) despite playing in 95 games by age 23. There is just no need for Defensemen in Dallas after getting Sergei Gonchar & resigning Jordie Benn.

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  9. The Hockey Fan - Jul 5, 2013 at 11:32 AM

    Seguin can’t play center. The Bruins tried that and he failed. He is up the ice before they even breakout, he can’t win a faceoff, and his offensive awareness seemed a bit questionable this year. He lacks the qualities you would like to see in a center.

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