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Report: B’s had ‘sit-down’ with Seguin during Leafs series

Jul 4, 2013, 4:25 PM EDT

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We already knew the Bruins wanted Tyler Seguin to “become more of a professional” if he hoped to continue his career in Boston.

And now that they’ve traded the 21-year-old to Dallas, we’re learning some context to that “become more of a professional” angle.

From CSN New England’s Joe Haggerty:

According to sources around the team, Seguin was out late in Toronto during the road trip to play the Leafs in the first round of the playoffs and the team had to hold a sit-down with the immature forward about his commitment to the team. Seguin showed up each day at the Air Canada Centre wearing the same clothes for three straight days and played badly in Games 3 and 4 of the first round against Toronto.

For some, the above may seem like piling on. Ditto for this since-deleted tweet from a Boston bar:

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But like Patrick Kane in Chicago, Seguin’s off-ice activities have become part of the narrative.

Now it’s up to Seguin to silence the critics with his play, just like Kane did.

  1. youcallthathockeyblog - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:28 PM

    He’s acting like a 21 year old… Lets trade and belittle him in the media for still being a kid… dumb

    • bucrightoff - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:34 PM

      Yeah, if was indeed actually out getting smashed on the road in the playoffs, that speaks to an exceptionally immature individual. Condone him for being young and wanting to party? Maybe, but not during the playoffs. Especially when he had a brutal playoffs.

      • tuberippin - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        Didn’t stop Patrick Kane….

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:14 PM

        Seguin couldn’t even get into a bar legally 7and 1/2 months ago. Why is it even remotely realistic to automatically expect him to manage his time like a 30 yr old veteran.

        “exceptionally immature individual”?!?!……Maybe if you’re 27 yr old Alexander Radulov.

        We could just forget the fact that this 21 yr old guy had been surrounded by adult men who could drink and do as they please since he entered the league at 18. BUT, acknowledging their presence brings up the question of “Where were all of the older players who SHOULD have had his back both as mentor and a teammate considering what kind of player he is/was?”

        They were only trying to make a run at the Stanley Cup! God forbid a 21 year old couldn’t quite figure out how to manage responsibilities with time away from them.

        Great way to handle it. Trade the kid away. Why take responsibility for what the environment and common growing pains of a young man growing up.

        Ridiculous!!! This is why so few people have so little sense of fortitude and character. You can’t learn what isn’t shown to you by example.

      • bucrightoff - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:20 PM

        If every single 21 year old in the NHL were doing this, you’d have a point. They are not, so your point is moot. Lots of very mature 21 year old guys in the league, and I’d guess 95% of them would not be out in the opposing teams city getting lit up during the playoffs. The Bruins are in a position to contend for Cups now, the last thing they need is a forward who values drinking over competing for championships.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:37 PM

        But this isn’t about what the Bruins need.

        See I agree with you that Seguin SHOULDN’T have been out. And I agree the Bruins DON’T need a player doing that.

        BUT, a team can’t expect to just get the production an extremely talented 18 to 21 year old can deliver without any of the maturity issues most 18 to 21 year olds have.

        Most players, not just guys, but 21 year old players don’t have millions of dollars at their finger tips and the expectations he was saddled with. So the dynamic is different. That in turn makes his circumstance different.

        He wasn’t just any 21 year old player.

      • dueman - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:45 PM

        ucaneverscorenoughgoals – Just to let you know – the drinking age in Canada is only 19, and most of us Canadians have been around beer and liquor since we were 17. As a Canadian he should be past his partying stage at 21 with a multi-million dollar job. Besides, if it is true that while in Toronto, he showed up at the Air Canada Center in the same clothes three days in a row, alcohol is the least of his problems.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2013 at 8:27 PM

        I get it, it’s easy to be judgemental and dismissive of a 21 yr old partying because all of us were such character driven by the book individuals. Riiiiiiiiiight.

    • 1943mrmojorisin1971 - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:57 PM

      It’s the playoffs. You get to party when they’re over for you.

      Most 21-year-old kids are finishing up university and about to enter the real world. And even most of those kids know better than to go on a bender during their exams.

    • rsmaggiemae - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:59 PM

      How many of the 21 yr olds in the NHL dont get caught doing the same thing Seguin did.
      He does have to grow up, but he is only 21 yrs old… give him some slack…
      Like the owner said, some of it could be true some not… so who really knows

      But I do know that he was after Boomer Isaaisons daughter via twitter last year and he would not leave her alone, she had to tell him off as she was going with a player from the rangers or the islanders at the time. I guess he made a a– of himself with her…
      He must have thought he was the catch of the Bruins…/

      Give the kid time, and he will grow up and who knows maybe this trade will wake him up and he will grow up something like what happened to Kane

  2. kingcobraman - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:29 PM

    being 21yrs with a big bank account always gets u in trouble ….

  3. no - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    primary difference?

    Kane is actually good

    • greenmtnboy31 - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:01 PM

      Sequin is good.
      Kane was good, now he’s exceptional.

      I’m a Habs fan, and I’ve seen the flashes or Sequin’s talent. I’m a bit surprised the B’s bailed on him at only 21, but maybe he’ll end up in Montreal as another B’s killer!

    • tdrusher225 - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      Kane was facing the same criticism after last season. Seguin has the same potential Kane does. The difference is Kane got a chance to redeem himself this year, and look what happened. He buckled down and became a MVP candidate and Conn Smythe winner. Now Seguin won’t get that chance this season and this could come back to bite the Bruins in the ass.

    • tru2joelu4eva - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM

      if he’s going to be compared to kane, mike richards and jeff carter should probably be in the conversation as well.

  4. pastabelly - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    And yet Chicago kept Kane and he won the Conn Smythe. Any lessons here, Peter?

    • themohel - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:45 PM

      As a Hawk fan, I’ve been a critic of Kane in the past. He really seems to have matured over the past year or so, but I don’t recall him having his displays of “21 year-old” behavior during post-season runs. Once or twice during long road trips during the season. I know there was concern that it might lead to that, but it didn’t seem to get that far. It is hard to compare the two because there are lots of facts not known to the public in both cases.

      • scalfor3 - Jul 5, 2013 at 12:21 AM

        Kane is a much better player than Seguin and also buckles down and focuses during the playoffs.

        I don’t think the B’s give up on him this quickly if he doesn’t have that big contract. They probably get better short-term with this move and also gain some cap breathing room to add one more veteran winger (Alfreddson?).

  5. Stiller43 - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:39 PM

    I see what you guys are saying, but at the same time, not a lot of jobs in the world are going to be cool with you performing badly and being illprepared for your work (especially at crucial times) just being you want to act like a 21 yr old. Theyll find an more mature person, regardless of age.

    I actually will agree with bostons decision here. You put on the B’s sweater, youre not 21 vs 38…youre a bruin. Act mature and have respect for your teammates, especially during the playoffs. Theres three months of offseason to dick around 24/7

    • tdrusher225 - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:06 PM

      Eriksson fits that mature mold. He sounds like a consistent, well-rounded player who may fit in beautifully with the Bruins.

      • elrock7 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:59 PM

        yeah, minus the talent.

  6. girouxed - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:42 PM

    Immature people will always be immature. He should’ve grown up a while ago. To think, he’s not your typical 21 year old. He’s in the media spotlight and is supposed to be a professional and conduct himself as a professional athlete should. I guess it wouldn’t matter if he showed up to play but he didn’t so… Yea

    • themohel - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:51 PM

      Yeah, every immature person will always be immature….. what a dumb statement that one is. Those five year olds what act up will likely end up in prison… I’ve discovered that people who make statements with “always” are generally immature.

      That said, he’s responsible to his team and teammates and it seems he let them down here. Maybe the trade will help him in this regard, like it seems to have done for Carter and Richards (who seem to have become more mature since leaving Philly).

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:04 PM

        Did the become more “mature” or did the develop in to their role that they had in front of them. The kid’s only 21 and I’d love to have him with my team.

      • themohel - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:27 PM

        There was a lot of sarcasm in my post, my friend. I would like his talent too, but it is tough to know the extent of his issues since much of it is hidden from view.

  7. mikecrave - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:51 PM

    I believe that winning a Stanley Cup so early on in Seguin’s career derailed his long term drive and focus. The Bruins need players that possess an insatiable hunger for greatness, not players that will be out all hours of the night during the Leafs-Bruins series, showing up to the rink in the same clothes for three straight days as was reported of Seguin. Eriksson is a great two-way player that made the successful transition from playing Swedish ice hockey to the NHL. He could be a huge asset in the development of Carl Soderberg

    • rigatonikid - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      Many, Many players never get to kiss Lord Stanley’s cup. This happened early in Seguin’s career and maybe he thought the NHL would be as easy as his rise to get there. Yes, it can help to be in a winning atmosphere, but it looked, and now sounds, like he likes the life rather than the work.

  8. titansbro - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:55 PM

    Dallas has more strip clubs than any city in the US, except maybe Tampa. Let’s see if he matures down there.

  9. giantssb42champs - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:24 PM

    At least Kane is a hockey stud. Seguin is a wanna-be poser.

  10. valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:30 PM

    Youcallthatanintelligentcomment. The kid is playing with the big boys and is being paid pretty well. If you can’t stand the heat get the f out of the kitchen, or in his case, the the immature ungrateful kid. They exchanged underachievers, but a 21 year old for a 28 year old. The secondary players will one day show who get the best of this trade. i.e. Matt Fraser.

    • dueman - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:51 PM

      I’d hardly call Eriksson an underachiever!

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 4, 2013 at 8:16 PM

        12 Gs 17 As…. Not enough.

    • tdrusher225 - Jul 5, 2013 at 12:42 AM

      Dude, before this season Eriksson put up 3 consecutive 70+ point seasons. Are you talking about this past year? Because I’d hardly see a 30 point season on a lousy team something to be concerned about. Eriksson is a consistent, durable, and extremely talented two-way player. Underachiever is not how I would describe him

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jul 5, 2013 at 3:48 AM

        Dude, I am talking about this year. And, I agree that Eriksson is a talented player. Extremely? Not the adjective I would use, but I get the gist of your point.

      • tdrusher225 - Jul 5, 2013 at 11:17 AM

        Yes and one year is not a sample size worthy of calling this guy an underachiever.

  11. ray2013 - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:35 PM

    They could have left it at, “he needs to become more of a professional”. All this extra TMZ stuff is just them throwing Seguin under the bus so that people don’t criticize the Bruins down the road for trading him.

    • dueman - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:53 PM

      Oh, you’re on the team I take it, and know that everything said is not true then? lol Give me a break.

      • ray2013 - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:37 PM

        There was no reason to make all of that public and humiliate him AFTER they traded him. I guess it’s too much to expect a little class.

  12. crazemastercraze - Jul 4, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Kids been kissed up to his whole life, gets more money than god to play a game and thought he was bigger than the Boston Bruins. You have to think some pretty important players in the locker room were aghast by his actions and attitude and said their piece to management.

    His agent should have say him down and showed him how strong his pimp hand was.

    B’s rid themselves of a distraction/cancer

  13. wikidpissah - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:33 PM

    Great. Now the Bruins are following the Red Sox model of “sources” releasing information about players after they’re gone to make themselves look better.

    It was too early to give up on Seguin, but if you’re going to trade him, and want to justify it, come right out and say it, with your name attached.

  14. dboldave - Jul 4, 2013 at 6:48 PM

    People keep trying to compare Kane to Seguin because of their “wild sides” and comparable talent. I haven’t watched as many Hawks games as I have B’s but I will say that I’ve never seen Kane afraid to go to the net or get hit. Seguin on the other hand, hit him and he will often lose the puck.

    I think he has serious talent and he could score 40 goals this season. The thing is, for the money they were paying him he SHOULD be scoring and not simply waiting for “his time” to come.

  15. northstarnic - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:03 PM

    Well, at least he didn’t murder anyone like that other sports star from Boston.

  16. gooterbaby - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    F@$K BI#$H’s GET MONEY. Tyler Seguin and Patrick Kane are golden god’s to me.

  17. isithockeyseasonyet - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:45 PM

    Good package in return but giving up on the kid so early is a tough call, maybe the right one, but tough. It made Jeff carter a better player, maybe it will for seguin

  18. zacmelvinmcnutt - Jul 4, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    I think the bottom line here is that Boston probably really didn’t want to trade Seguin, he’s a very talented young player and was going to be a huge part of their team going forward. The kid lead the team in points last season, you don’t trade away a player like that unless there’s a good reason.

    We obviously don’t know the whole story, the only people who do are Tyler Seguin and the Boston Bruins so it’s not our place to judge either of them. But I’ll say this, this kid has obviously done some things to piss off upper management and I’m sure they gave him fair warning and a chance to correct his behaviour which he obviously never did. Yeah sure he’s only 21, kids make mistakes blah blah blah.

    The NHL is a professional hockey organization, if you’re gonna play in the NHL you have to act and carry yourself like a professional regardless of your age.

  19. hockeyflow33 - Jul 4, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    The Bruins from the 70’s are revered for their drinking escapades, times sure have changed.

    And the Cask? Come on Seguin, you’re a millionaire, that place is garbage.

    • girouxed - Jul 4, 2013 at 9:58 PM

      Everyone back then was unhealthy. Now Pro Athletes (aside from some MLB pitchers) are in iron man shape.

      You either stick with your routine and be a beast or go and drink and be hungover and tired while the other guy is all ready to go.

  20. stakex - Jul 4, 2013 at 8:58 PM

    Anyone who would defend Seguin is obviously themselves an immature person who needs to grow up, and clearly don’t understand the commitment pro hockey players are expected to make.

    Seguin was making $4.5 million last season as a member of the Boston Bruins. Part of the deal that comes along with that type of money is an understanding that your life will revolve around the teams goal of winning. You are expected to do nothing that will hinder that objective. During the season, the team all but owns you. In the offseason you can do whatever you want, but are expected to come back in shape. That’s the deal, and being out late partying the night before a big playoff game is not acceptable for a professional hockey player.

    And to be clear, there is little comparison between this and the Kane incident from last summer. Kane may have made an ass of himself and shown his own immaturity… but at least he waited till the season was over.

    • spitfisher - Jul 4, 2013 at 10:51 PM

      Exactly

  21. bigdaddy44 - Jul 4, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    This move might look good for now, but in a few years this will be looked at as Chiarelli’s Lou Gorman moment. (Bagwell for Larry Andersen) But what else could you expect from someone who loves Claude Julien, the Grady Little of hockey coaches. What type of moron leaves his best offensive line on the ice for not just one, but 2 goals, in the last minute+ of game 6 while his rested checking line sits on the bench. Can’t believe that 90% of the Boston media let Claude ‘skate’ on that one.

  22. chanceoffleury1 - Jul 5, 2013 at 2:42 AM

    Any Pens fan will tell you that Gonchar is one of the best guys to put in a lockerroom alongside Seguin. Half of his contracts are based on his leadership alone. Malkin, Letang, Karlsson, Staal, etc. have all sang his praises of the veteran presence and guidance he brings to the youth in a lockerroom. If there’s anyone that can take Seguin under his wing and whip him into shape, it’s Gonchar. Seguin just needs to remember that the best way to give a big middle finger to Boston and shut the doubters up is to just silently go out there and be so good that they can’t ignore your improvements and your greatness.

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