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Pascal Dupuis, Penguins agree to four-year, $15 million deal

Jul 3, 2013, 12:08 AM EDT

Pascal Dupuis #9 of the Pittsburgh Penguins celebrates his goal at 19:00 of the first period against the New York Islanders in Game Three of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals during the 2013 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at the Nassau Veterans Memorial Coliseum on May 5, 2013 in Uniondale, New York.
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The Pittsburgh Penguins continued their offseason theme of keeping their 2013 squad largely intact with the signing of Pascal Dupuis to a four-year, $15 million contract.

That’s a huge jump over his previous two-year, $3 million deal, but it’s still meaningfully less than he probably would have gotten had he elected to test the unrestricted free agent waters.

Dupuis broke out in 2011-12 with 25 goals and 59 points in 82 games. Last season he showed those numbers weren’t a fluke by recording another 20 goals and 38 points in 48 contests.

This will give the 34-year-old a similar cap hit to Chris Kunitz, who recently agreed to a three-year, $11.5 million extension. Dupuis and Kunitz providing the club with hometown discounts was necessary given how much the team has committed to Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, and Kris Letang.

As it is, Pittsburgh already has $48.95 million in cap space allocated to just nine players in 2014-15, according to Cap Geek.

How the Penguins deal with that issue will determine how competitive they can be going forward, but if nothing else they shouldn’t be hurting for goals.

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  1. jkulha86 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    I’m a Penguins, but I can’t understand why this team continues to resign and over pay players and coaches that continue to fail in the playoffs. Love them or hate them, but Malkin and Crosby are two of the best players in the world, and yet every year the Pens fail miserably in the playoffs. Shero has set this team up for a cap nightmare in a couple of years.

    • chanceoffleury1 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:34 AM

      No wonder this team drives me insane. They are literally the definition of insanity! The same thing over and over expecting a different result.

      If something is broke they try and fix it, and then when it breaks again they fix it the same exact way, and then again after that, and then again after that, and then one more time after that. I think it’s supposed to work after like the 7th or 8th time, right? Please smile, lie to me, and tell me that I’m right…… :(

      • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:13 AM

        you are right. shere should have not signed letang and try to get anything he could for him. that is where i don’t understand what he is doing. he could have tried to sign clarkson because cookie is gone and a stay at home d man. i do believe in maf but our window of opportunity for a cup won’t be there forever.

      • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM

        They did, however, finish the season very well (first in the EC I believe), and they did, however, get to the EC finals. The mistakes made in the finals were a combination of factors, but no…it does not mean, contrary to some over-reactionary Pens’ fans ideals, that they need to go into ‘rebuilding’ mode. I’m not sure what the lack of faith and confidence is about, but it makes me think of Buffalo fans, to be quite honest. If it’s the Duper signing…you have to be kidding me…with the way Duper plays, the way he fits this team, you were against the signing? No, I can’t believe that. Kunitz signing? Nah, he’s great for the team. Letang? That will either be a sign and trade this year or will be a steal in 3-4 years time. Letang was a Norris Trophy candidate and Shero was the GM of the year, that’s what we know right now.

        So tell me, is it really broken? Or does Dan need to CHANGE his coaching when he is clearly beating their heads off a wall? The same thing happened to Chicago this year vs. the Bruins. You know what they did? THEY ADAPTED. THAT’S COACHING. There’s nothing wrong with the players, it breaks my heart to hear Pens fans act that way.

        They could use more grit on the wings…but Duper and Kunitz ARE gritty – it’s what they need. They could use a 6’9″ D-man, but grow up, there’s no tree to pick one from. Shero is keeping a winning core together, and Pens fans are complaining. That’s not just sad, it’s sick. You should root for Philly.

      • theschwartzsays - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:49 PM

        @hockey412

        If anyone on this site is a douche…it’s you. Hands down. This team is not struggling from an offensive stand point. But defensive. Letang is mediocre defensively. He’s an amazing offensive defenseman. Pitt lacked NO depth and is the single reason they got smoked by Boston. You have to have a deep, TWO way team. Not just two goo offensive lines. You’re a moron. Why do you assume it will be a steal in 3-4 years? It could end up being terrible. Yes Pitt has lots of talent but needs to be able to build an entire team. They are going to pay for over paying. Sure they got good players. But like everyone else you have to spend wisely. Of course they wanted Kunitz and “dupers” (queer) back. But you can’t keep everyone. It’s not realistic. That’s why pitt will continue to get bounced. You aren’t a true fan. But an idiot. You are intelligent about your team and the cap but arrogant. So quit insulting your own fans who are making a little sense with genuine concerns. Could it work out? Yes. But they def dug a whol for themselves.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2013 at 12:44 AM

        Theschwartz,

        Actually hockey412 is correct.

        “Pitt lacked NO depth” is an oxymoron because you’re basically stating Pittsburgh had depth. Which is true, but that obviously wasn’t what you were going for.

        What Pittsburgh lacked was a power forward like Lucic, and a goaltender who got hot at the right time. It’s no coincidence that once Chicago got physical by using Bickell on it’s first line Boston had no answer.

        Now would it help to trade Paul Martin and bring in a Bickell type player to put on either Crosby or Malkin’s line?! Yea…….And would a stay at home d-man like Scuderi or Ference provide more of the stay at home influence the young d-men would be wise to incorporate into their games? Absolutely!

        But depth wasn’t really the issue.

      • theschwartzsays - Jul 4, 2013 at 4:20 PM

        Actually he isn’t correct. Also it was in fact a double negative NOT and oxymoron. But I’m sure that’s what you meant. Also by saying they coulda used Bickel or scuderi yoh are in fact contradicting yourself because those are DEPTH. Lucic Marchand bergeron all two way players. Yes Crosby is too. He’s excellent. But having two way depth is deferent then just four good offensive lines. They lost in a shootout last year where neither team could play defense. This year they lost due to lacking strong 3rd and 4th two way lines who can hang w big guys who play both ways. Pitt had loads of talent but wasn’t assembled properly. If they had strong defenseman they could have made it w their offensive lines. But overall built only to score. Depth was def an issue. Not as far as talent maybe. But as a two way team that can win low scoring games. Lol sorry if there are errors typin on the phone is tough. But you made way more sense than hockey412 and aren’t a dbag.

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:45 AM

      I know all the cap geeks hate to hear this but the cap went up every year since 2005 before it was adjusted becaue of the new CBA. Oh and that all happened while a recession occured.

      In fact it’s nearly doubled since then, 39 million in 2005 – 64.3 million in 2013.

      I hope the same criticism is thrown at Chicago when they sign Kane and Toews for more than 8 million a piece on their next contracts. Neither of them will leave chicago and each will ask for money in the ball park of Getzlaf and Perry.

      • stakex - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:51 AM

        If your friend jumped of a bridge……..

      • chazxcore - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:58 AM

        Except it went down to 64.3 million and it seems like some teams Pens and Flyers (and I’m a Flyers fan) are acting like it’s going to a level where these long term deal at high numbers will be sustainable. Right now, the Pens cap sits at less than 1 million per player for the 14 players the need to sign to have a 23 man roster in 2014-2015. Even if the cap jumps up to 66 or 67 in 2014-2015, I don’t know how a GM can put together a team other than a few stars (and they are huge stars) with extremely young and extremely old and cheap players.

        It doesn’t help that teams like the Coyotes and Panthers are leaching on the NHL. If teams were relocated to areas where people cared about hockey, the salary cap wouldn’t really be that big of an issue, especially for big market teams.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:07 AM

        My friends don’t jump of anything. How do you jump of?

      • stakex - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:30 AM

        When all you can do is point out my typo, you don’t have a very valid point.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:10 AM

        You had no point. The Penguins had to sign Dupuis and Letang. Thay would have been a worse team without them, right now and long term. Any GM would agree with that. That’s the only point that matters.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:46 AM

        Chicago has won 2 of the last 4 cups, the Penguins haven’t been near the finals (and no getting swept in the conference finals doesn’t qualify as being near the finals) in that time. Pittsburgh looks very much like a team who’s hit their ceiling with the current group of players yet Shero is spending money like a rich teen in an effort to keep this group together. 4 years from now the Penguins will be barely making or missing the playoffs and they can point to the contracts given out this summer and the reason why.

        And the fact that any other team (Philly) is equally as stupid doesn’t make it right.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:11 AM

        This has nothing to do with cap space…..it’s about signing the same guys who have choked in the tournemant 4 years in a row now.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:52 AM

        Atwater,

        Chcago won 2 of the last four cups because they locked up Guys like Kane Toews and Keith to long deals foru years ago. Hossa’s cap circumventing deal helped, but they’ve done a great job of finding complimentary players to plug into holes around that highend core.

        Don’t believe me?! Look it up on capgeek.com

        The majority of that highend core will have to be resigned in 2 to 3 years and no one should doubt the fact it will be because you can’t replace those guys.

        After the Pens last cup run the writing was on the wall that the defense would need rebuilt.Gill was already in his 30’s and slow, Gonchar was mid 30’d and wanted big money, Scuderi wanted big money and was turning 30. The problem at the time was that there wasn’t enough highend defensive d-men in the system to do it. Now there is and starting next year you will begin to see young, cheap, highend defensive d-men bolster that defense.

        In the next two years name like Harrington, Samuelsson, Dumoulin, and Matta will fight it out for spots in top 6. The key d-man is Pouliott who will not only make Martin expendable but in time may remind people of Ray Bourque.

      • maalea - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:31 PM

        ucan,

        Are you REALLY comparing a 19 year old to one of the greatest Dmen ever to play the game?

        Wow, I want some of what you are drinking.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - Jul 4, 2013 at 12:29 AM

        Maalea,

        Great young players remind people of older stars all the time. It happens, relax.

    • biasedhomer - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM

      They did trade away manpig Tyler Kennedy

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      In a couple of years the cap will be huge, and these long terms deals with some of the best players in the world will be bargains. K?

    • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:45 PM

      I think I speak for every non Flyer fan in the world

      Shut the F’up Flyer fans, you haven’t won anything since the 70’s. Your franchise, GM, Owner and team are huge jokes, and the only bigger joke in Philly is the clueless and gullible fanbase that doesn’t see it. You’re no different than Leaf fans.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 3, 2013 at 2:50 PM

        Pretty classy………pretty classy indeed

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM

        Who needs class when talking to a Philly fan?

      • maalea - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:43 PM

        I think I speak for all hockey fans.

        It’s hard to take someone seriously who names themselves after a sword and sorcery show that means “all men must die”.

        That’s deep, Dude. Too Fn funny.

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:12 PM

        Most downloaded show in the history of the internet? Nearly 6 million watching that “sword and sorcery show”
        And you seem to know what it means.

        What were you saying again? Yammering on some article from yesterday? Move on man

      • maalea - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:44 PM

        Easy enough to do a google search douche bag.
        Yes, I am commenting on a day old article because I have a life and a family and we go on multiple vacations. and I am catching up on hockey news.

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:05 PM

        So you’re google searching peoples names with your free time when not vacationing….creepy.

      • maalea - Jul 4, 2013 at 1:16 AM

        Yes while vacationing I will take 2 minutes to do a google search on something I don’t recognize .
        It’s called self education.

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 4, 2013 at 1:34 AM

        Riiiiiiiiiiight, googling commenters names.
        No doubt about it, very creepy

  2. jimw81 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    The Penguins cap situation is literally a disaster. Yet they are applauded. The national media is ridiculously biased against the Flyers.

    • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:58 AM

      Pens make the playoffs and go to conference finals. Flyers missed playoffs.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:13 AM

        1st time in 18 years my friend.

        Your squad sucked a$$ for a decade…..

      • cheesesteak75 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM

        It’s not about making the playoffs every year. It’s about winning championships. 1975!

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:39 AM

        Im a Red Wings fan, my team hasn’t sucked for 2 decades. And it trashed your Flyers in the finals along the way.

      • isithockeyseasonyet - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:24 PM

        You say that like it happens every year, I’m not into talking abou the past but you’re asking for it…remind me how the playoffs went for the pens last year? Embarassed by the flyers, what happened this year? Outclassed by Boston. Glad you’re content with making it to the semis and talking trash like its an accomplishment to be the 4th runner up

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:42 PM

        Remind everyone the last time the Flyers won it all and compare that to the # of Cups the Pens have since that time.

      • laxman1944 - Jul 3, 2013 at 2:57 PM

        Ok Boy

        What the f*ck have you Flames done recently??

        Smart a$$

      • valarmorghuliss - Jul 3, 2013 at 3:09 PM

        My Red Wings? Made the playoffs every year you have been alive most likely.

    • ras1tafari - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:38 AM

      I can’t figure out what the Pens cap situation is. There cannot be any way they are under the cap. You can’t have Crosby and Malkin, then sign Letang to $S–tloads and then Dupuis?

      How are they jobbing the cap system? I refuse to believe they are all square and legal.

      • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:03 AM

        That is literally the dumbest comment I’ve ever heard. Spoken like a true douche. There are sites that you can go to, that will show you person by person, what the cap impact is. Capgeek is one, it’s pretty good – go satisfy your ‘beliefs’.

        Also – some points for you – Malkin and Letang’s deal don’t go into effect until 2014/2015. Crosby’s new deal goes into effect this year but is no worse a hit than his last one. Malkins, next year, will only be .75M higher than his current deal. The only major increase this year is Duper, which is only a couple million higher.

        Square and legal? really? Grow up. It’s math, not politics. If you can add, you can check it out.

      • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:47 PM

        comparing the flyers to the redwings is hysterical

  3. jaredphi - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:15 AM

    Wow. Pitt pulled it off. Thought he’d be a free agent for sure.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:14 AM

      this one had to be done, shouldve been a priority over letang. players want to play in pittsburgh, dupuis probably couldve gotten 4 or 4.25 on the free market if he didnt want to stay. signing letang, malkin, kunitz tells dupuis that he has some security and a chance to win if he stays. now shero needs to lock up craig adams cheap, maybe resign glass and this team is ready to go on another run. i’m not elated over the letang deal, but the dupuis one makes me smile.

  4. nogoodtomedead - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:24 AM

    I cannot figure out where Pitt finds the money.

    • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:16 AM

      maybe they have a private stash hidden in mario’s wine cellar lol

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      Everyone has the same freaking cap, for Christ’s sake.

  5. devilsarethebest - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Lol. Love watching the Pens kill themselves.

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      Seriously? Coming from a Devil’s fan? Wow.

  6. Stiller43 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:25 AM

    Super duper!

  7. chanceoffleury1 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:26 AM

    Somebody find me a toilet. I think I’m gonna throw up.

    x_x

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      Lots of toilets in Philly, my friend. Just head east!

  8. bobhpine - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:27 AM

    Imagine…for only $7.5 million more, the Pens could have gotten half the goals for a broken down Vinny Lecavalier.

    3.7 is a great number for Dupuis. I would have preferred only 3 years, but even if Duper is a third liner in four years, that works; he’s tenacious on the PK, great guy in the room, always brings energy.

    Who would have thought the guy thrown in at the end of the Hossa deal would end up actually outproducing Hossa five years later? Twenty goals last years in 48 games and he doesn’t even play on the PP…all that production is 5/5 or PK. Good signing.

    • hockeyfootball98 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      Well lets see Vinny Lecavlier in last 4 seasons has 205 pts in 250 games….Your boy Duper 135 pts in 292 games played but you’re right Vinny is the broken down one. Whatever keep drinking the kool aid

      • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:27 AM

        i can do that too, lets look at the last 2 seasons, where lecavalier has been declining and forced his buyout, compared to dupuis who has been increasing his value.

        #9 130 games 45 goals 87 pts playoffs: 21 games 9 goals 17 pts – cap hit 3.75
        #4 103 games 32 goals 81 pts playoffs: …uhh……nope…………… – cap hit 4.5

        see how that works, now its your turn, counter back with overall career numbers….because thats relative to today right?

    • laxman1944 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      It’s awesome…keep signing the same tools that choke in the playoffs……

      • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:35 AM

        or would you rather us buyout the guys who perform in the playoffs (briere) or gamble on goalies (bryzgalov) only to buy them out too? how about we overpay a bunch of free agent dinosaurs (streit, lecavalier) and trade away a cup winner (gagne) only to bring him back when he’s become ineffective? nah, maybe we should just trade away our captain (richards) and one of the better pure goal scorers in the league (carter) for a gangly underperforming rookie (couterier) and pay a 4th line douchebag (hartnell) 4 million a year instead. that way we can miss the playoffs and get the 11th overall pick in 2013! awesome!

      • fbothharbaughs - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:55 AM

        but laxman, these “tools” make the playoffs & already have 1 championship under their collective belts…

        What say you?

  9. pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:28 AM

    I don’t really see the cap being an issue for Pens because what they have with pending free agents next season. There’s no way Orpik returns for 14-15…unless its cheap. A lot of the defensemen on the team will be free agents such as Engo, Orpik, Niskanen. Those three eat up roughly $8 million(I might be off) and the two other key free agents Jokinen & Sutter are like maybe $6-$8 in space I’m guessing. I’m going off the top of my head. Out of those 5 I would be sure that Sutter gets resigned and maybe Jokinen but for say $1.5 million. The younger defensive prospects we have in the minors are cheap and affordable which will help us to replace guys like Orpik and Nisky. While guys like Harrington, Pouliot, and Maata are in the league proving themselves the Cap should rise which will help to resign them in like 5 years. The Pens just need to replenish the forward position in the minors.

    A $3.75 million for Duper is cheap since he could’ve made more on the open market.

    Oh and Flyer fans you guys have to no room speak when bashing Pens fans on our cap space considering your in the same boat! Atleast Shero doesn’t get a stiffy when a player becomes a free agent unlike Holmgren.

    • hockeyfootball98 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:37 AM

      Well lets see Vinny Lecavlier in last 4 seasons has 205 pts in 250 games….Your boy Duper 135 pts in 292 games played but you’re right Vinny is the broken down one. Whatever keep drinking the kool aid.

    • stakex - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:16 AM

      None of what you said there has anything to do with the actual problem: The Pens have $15.3 million left to sign at least 13 players for 2014-15. That is a serious crisis, and has nothing to do with who will be a free agent for them that year. In fact, I’ll make it simple… they won’t be able to keep any of their free agents next summer since they don’t have the cap space.

      Now I’m not a Flyers fan, and you are correct that they have some serious cap issues of their own. However their cap spending this offseason was at least in an effort (even if it is a vain effort) to make their team better. The Pens on the other hand spent more then $5 million in additional cap space simply re-signing players. Once all those extensions kick in during the 14-15 season, the Pens are screwed.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:38 AM

        Oh Stakex you never cease to amaze me on here with your hockey smarts. My stuff does address there issues with next season.

      • steelpenbucs87 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:32 AM

        See that’s where you’re wrong – the cap stands to take a significant jump before next season, and some have even suspected it would be in the $70M range again given the influx of revenues that are going to occur for a) the Outdoor Series which are HUGE HRR generators and b) the overflow from the olympics (lots of people who never really watched hockey get excited by watching the best in the world all of a sudden start to watch and support their hometown teams, its a small amount but it does help).

        In addition, next off season you’ll see the changing of the guard on Defense as the Pens wealth of defensive prospects will all be taking over the back line. Harrington, Maata, Dumolin, Pouliot, and Despres will likely be all be solid NHL talent by that point who are on $900k contracts.

        So in reality, once the 14-15 season hits there’s actually a significant chance that the Pens actually have a LOT more cap space as guys like Orpik, Engo, and Nisky leave in favor of $900k guys, plus the increase in the overall cap.

        So no, they are not screwed, and do a little bit more research re: the cap beyond this year other than just staring at the bottom of a cap geek page….

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:50 AM

        @steelpenbucs who are you saying is wrong? If I had to guess I’d say its Stakex

      • steelpenbucs87 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:50 AM

        @pitpen correct, I was referring to stakex

    • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:20 AM

      but do we have any nhl forwards in the minors. i know we have plenty of defense.

      • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        not really but bennett will be a full timer this year with kennedy gone. jokinen will be there, vitale is a good 13th forward that might get a regular job on the 4th line, adams should get resigned cheap, glass maybe, they signed zolnierczyk. they do have their top 6 locked up already plus sutter. they will be fine, if injuries happen, which they will, we will see guys we never heard of (at least most fans have never heard of) but that happens with every team every year.

  10. bobhpine - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:36 AM

    Ha. Pens sign Dupuis and all you get is angst from flyers fans about their cap situation.

    Is the media bias against the Flyers the reason they are presently OVER the salary cap by $318K? And who’s gonna be the goalie? Timonen for 6 mil was a great signing though, I’m sure there were teams poised to snatch him up for 7…hundred thousand. Hey at least you can do what you do best in April, May and June…Hate on other teams. Get used to eleventh. Haha. Eleventh. Shameful.

    1975…. ’twas some time ago.

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:17 AM

      Very creative… “7…hundred thousand”. On the open market Timonen easily would’ve gotten that deal. And I wouldn’t expect someone as conceited as you to understand that missing the playoffs and losing in the playoffs has the same end result. Since you’re so obviously blinded by your ridiculous sense of self-satisfaction I’ll clear something else up for you… the Flyers and Pens are in the same boat. They both have little cap space, little defense, and no answer in net. So quit trying to use the Flyers lost season to make yourself feel better about the Pens EPIC, HISTORIC, MONUMENTAL failure.

      So gimme a break with the 11th place crap. The Flyers dealt with a maddeningly inconsistent goalie and the loss of essentially their entire blueline. Yeah their play was terrible at times, but it was a flukey half season. 82 games and the Flyers make the playoffs. And they’ll be back in this season. You know it and I know it. Keep telling yourself the Pens are superior bc they won’t be for much longer.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:40 AM

        Oh look another cheap dollar store excuse from a Flyers fan…how typical

      • pens5829 - Jul 3, 2013 at 7:30 AM

        Ask Mario and Eddie Snider the difference between making and missing the playoffs. Ask the bar and restaraunt owners in each town the difference between making and missing the playoffs. Ask the retailers selling sportswear the difference between making and missing the playoffs.

        Flukey? Nice try. The Flyers were a mess last season (shortened or not).

      • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:24 AM

        it was a shortened season but you still have to play. flyers just weren’t good enough.

      • fbothharbaughs - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:57 AM

        & the Pens had no injury issues whatsoever…

    • haterzinc - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:52 PM

      Comparing the flyers to the pens is not a comparison. Better forwards, better D, better goalie, better GM!!!!!! Sure the end result was the same but the future is much brighter in western PA. Pens are locking up talent in there prime. When’s Claude gonna score 30+ goals per year. I’m sure he’s gonna get a lucrative deal …….anything over 6 mill a year would be a travesty……much lucky for Claude his hot the best GM to fill his pockets

  11. 19to77 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:50 AM

    “As it is, Pittsburgh already has $48.95 million in cap space allocated to just nine players in 2014-15.”

    Welp. If nothing else, the Pens should be active at the next trade deadline. There’s no GM in hockey who’ll bet the farm on less than half a roster, even if it does boast Crosby, Malkin and Neal. Bottom line is, you need a full roster of reasonably solid, useful players on all lines to win. But Shero, being a pretty solid GM, knows that already. He’s got options. He’ll balance the books, even if it means moving one of those big contracts.

    • stakex - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:28 AM

      Who are they going to trade?

      Crosby, Malkin, Neal, and Letang account for $30 million of that… and none of them are being traded. Fleury and his $5 million cap hit aren’t going anywhere unless they buy him out, and that seems unlikely for some odd reason. It also seems unlikely they would give Kunitz and Dupuis extensions only to trade them next season… and with less then $4 million cap hit each they wouldn’t give much relief anyway. So right there that’s $42 million or so in cap spending that’s probably not going anywhere… and that alone is bad.

      Paul Martin is really the only player they have signed for 14-15 that might get moved one way or another, which would free up $5 million. Even that however isn’t going to make a massive difference because most of that money would then have to go back into a defensive replacement for him.

      • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:56 AM

        Your arrogance and ignorance in this matter is almost intolerable. You’ve spewed the same crap for three articles now, and people are beginning to just give you the thumbs down and ignore you like a common troll. As it should be. I wasn’t a fan of the Letang signing, but eh, if it keeps morons like you commenting a dozen times each article, then so be it. Remember a major sticking point in the contract talks was getting assurance that this wouldn’t be a sign and trade deal, and I’m not positive that it won’t be. As for Kunitz and Dupuis, they are earning what they should be based on more than one year’s production.

        You are correct that Martin will come off the board next year. At that point they will have a lot of entry level contracts and some bridge contracts on D from all the prospects they have that will be coming in to play. In the meantime the cap will continue to go up – next year is the only down year, then it will be back up to where it was last year already, then it will continue to rise. These “killer” contracts will be bargains in 4 years time. They just have to get through next year….except that Kunitz’ and Letang’s deal don’t even kick in until the year after. So things aren’t quite as bleak as you make out.

        But again, while it was entertaining in the beginning, your ignorance has now just become a pain. I think I speak for everyone when I say “Stakex, you have no clue what you are rambling about, please just shut the eff up”

      • pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        @hockey412 you my friend just made my day with that comment! Stakex never knows when to shut the hell up…I’m beginning to think that he’s related to our long lost friend Eiggles

      • 19to77 - Jul 3, 2013 at 3:10 PM

        Stakex – Letang’s got a year left on his bargain deal, and no trade protection ’till next summer. If Shero chooses to move a big contract, he’d probably be able to find a new home for Letang. High cap hit and long term may make some teams shy away, but no trade protection means Shero could send him anywhere he wants. I’m certain at least one GM will be willing to dance.

        Fleury, for all the question marks around his postseason play, is likely going to be one of the better goalies available next summer after an unusually deep goalie pool this year. With one year left on his contract at that point, someone will likely be willing to take him. Pens probably couldn’t expect much in return, but getting the cap space alone would be worth making it happen, assuming they find a long-term replacement.

        Then add what 412’s been saying the whole time – the Pens have a TON of high-level defensive prospects to cycle into the system in the next couple of years. Their D corps will go from stunningly overpriced to a fair bargain if they move Letang and Martin, and if you think there’s no chance that they move Letang… well, you don’t know Shero’s style very well.

        I still think their cap situation is very poor overall and commits too much to high-flying one-way offense and not enough to the two-way guys the last few Cup winners have relied on, but Shero’s got plenty of options to open cap space back up. They’re not as screwed as some of you think.

  12. jonkchar - Jul 3, 2013 at 4:10 AM

    man if you’re not excited about retaining Kunitz and Dupuis I don’t know what to tell you.
    I think Letang gets traded within the year

  13. haterzinc - Jul 3, 2013 at 5:27 AM

    All you girls are so worried about 2014-2015. That is not next year that is 2 years away. Alot can happen between now and then…..I.E. trades cap increase buy outs. The primary focus should be next year not 2 yeats from now. If they need cap space for 2014-2015 the martin neal and flerry contracts are potential trade bait

  14. rushledger - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:55 AM

    They have 5 players that are top line talent and them some in the case of Malkin and Crosby signed up. A Norris level defenseman signed up long term, and lots of up ad coming talent that will be on entry level deals that can help with depth such as oli maata, derick Puliot, also beau Bennett is signed for 2 more years cheap.

    People are overblowning this cap shero has into an issue, Philadelphia’s is much worse. They’re over the limit as of right now and only have Steve mason in net, that sounds like a real problem to me.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      after pronger goes on long term injury or whatever they call it, they will get that 4 million back off the cap number, but yes, they still need a goalie and have a bout 3.5 mill to work with.

  15. theageofquarrel - Jul 3, 2013 at 7:33 AM

    I love how some people think they know better than a guy who is working for a PROFESSIONAL NHL team.
    Why aren’t they working for the team they root for?

  16. live4hockey - Jul 3, 2013 at 7:44 AM

    We have so many GM’s here! As a fan, I like having Dupuis, glad he is back!

  17. s2mikey - Jul 3, 2013 at 7:53 AM

    The pens will still be very competitive because they have some star players. It’s as simple as that. The supporting cast will change every so often but the meat is still there. Salary caps are stupid anyways. It just dumbs it down to the lowest common denominator. Team owners are all trillioaniares so money shouldn’t be a problem. If you can’t spend money on your team then fold up shop or move elsewhere. Why does the rest of the league have to suffer for a few crappy, small market teams?

    • drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      what all this stuff comes down to is maf has to pick up his game especially in the playoffs and you can throw in the rest of the team also. if we lose a playoff series again like we did against boston jobs will be lost including at the top.

  18. drewsylvania - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:46 AM

    They continue to wreck their flexibility without adding a defenseman or a goalie.

    • jpelle82 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM

      they dont need either of those things. they have a wealth of defensemen in the system and 2 number 1 goalies on their roster.

  19. pitpenguinsrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    We have a ton of Armchair GM’s on this site

  20. mathieug79 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:01 AM

    I don’t understand why players who actually deserves raises and are the ones that do the hard work, pay the price and score big goals are left to sign for 3M ish a year. Then guys like Letang and Malkin who decided to disappear during playoffs, get 2M more than they deserve a year! What a joke!

    • mathieug79 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:03 AM

      At Least Pascal Dupuis and Chris Kunitz will be worth every penny, unlike Malkin, and Letang

  21. comeonnowguys - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:18 AM

    Clearly, another example of the GM of the Year at work. /eyeroll

    Sarcasm aside, I do wish my favorite team had Dupuis on it.

  22. ironcity6pak - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:24 AM

    @devilsrthebest, love watching the pens kill them selves? R u seriously speaking as a devils fan when that organization can’t even pay its bills. What will u be ur screen name when the devils move to Canada? “Devilscantpaybillssonowimarangersfan”

  23. hockeydon10 - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    It will be interesting to see what happens, that’s for sure.

    $48.95M committed to 9 players for 2014-25.

    The cap will go up. Let’s say it goes up to $70M, which wouldn’t be unheard of compared to the raises pre-2012 lockout.

    14 players to sign for the remaining $21.05M. That’s just north of $1.5M each for:
    1 backup goalie (current backup is $2M)
    5 d-men (have to be ready for short term injuries, thus the extra one; also one is currently 3.75, the other is 2.3)
    8 forwards (bottom 6, plus two extra to be ready for short term injuries)

  24. ras1tafari - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:34 AM

    How can Pittsburgh afford all of these players? I thought there was a HARD cap?! Crosby, Malkin, Dupuis, Letang…how can they have any money left over to fill out a roster?

    Something stinks in Pitts.

    • hockey412 - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      Letang is next year, as is Malkin. You should learn math, then add it up for yourself.

    • hockeydon10 - Jul 3, 2013 at 11:32 AM

      There is a whole website out there dedicated to this exact thing for every team in the league.

      http://www.capgeek.com

      Go, educate yourself.

  25. malkinrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 9:56 AM

    mathieug79 Malkin was second in playoff scoring in the playoffs until the ECF’S where no one scored. Did u actually watch the Pens play?

  26. malkinrulez - Jul 3, 2013 at 10:48 AM

    I love being lectured by fans of team that were forced to use both compliance buyouts the first day available than sign Vinny to horrible contract. If nothing else the Pens players are in their prime.

  27. supercoop8 - Jul 3, 2013 at 12:12 PM

    Well I’m glad that Pittsburgh and Philly fans finally found a reason to dislike one another.

  28. pensman29 - Jul 3, 2013 at 1:05 PM

    I think letang gets moved within 2 years. He doesn’t have a full NTC and people were already wishy washy about him. Oh and he is not a so-so defender. He is elite.

  29. drone501 - Jul 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM

    he will be moved when the young bloods show signs of moving up to the big club. pens are set defensively for quite a few years. need to develope some kids down at wilkes barre. does any pen fans on here have any info about the wingers they have in the minors.

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