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Report: Leafs might have scared Flyers out of Bernier bidding

Jun 21, 2013, 8:04 AM EDT

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It sounds like the Toronto Maple Leafs have made a strong bid in the Jonathan Bernier sweepstakes and that might send ripples through Philadelphia, according to CSN Philly’s sources.

The details of the bid aren’t known, but the Flyers aren’t really talking to the Kings and likely don’t want to match what’s already on the table at this time.

Although Toronto is believed to be the current leaders for Bernier’s services and the Flyers might be out, the Florida Panthers, New York Islanders, Minnesota Wild, and recently the New Jersey Devils have also been listed as possible trading partners.

The Devils would be an interesting choice as they already have Martin Brodeur and Johan Hedberg signed for the 2013-14 campaign. Still, the Brodeur era is coming to a close and acquiring the 24-year-old goaltender would help ease the transition. After years working as Jonathan Quick‘s understudy, it’s believed that Bernier is ready to serve as a number one netminder.

If he does end up going to Toronto, he will likely have to compete for playing time with 25-year-old goaltender James Reimer. Reimer is coming off of a great season and Toronto likely sees a Bernier acquisition as a way to hedge their bets in the hopes that at least one of their young goaltenders lives up to expectations in the long run.

Meanwhile, the Philadelphia Flyers still have to come to a decision on whether or not to buy out Ilya Bryzgalov‘s contract. They could certainly use the cap space, even after committing to use a compliance buyout on Daniel Briere, but it’s believed that they will only get rid of their current goaltender is they feel confident in their alternatives.

Getting Bernier might have facilitated Bryzgalov’s dismissal, but based on this report, it looks like Philadelphia might have to look elsewhere for goaltending.

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Report: Islanders, Leafs, Flyers, Wild, Panthers interested in Bernier

  1. worldseriestiger - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:57 AM

    Isn’t it just like Toronto, they desperately need a center to play with Kessel, so they go get a goalie to take time away from a guy that carried them into the playoffs. Its almost like when you become the GM of the Leafs, your IQ drops 25 points by walking through the door.

    • jpelle82 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:09 AM

      pretty dumb, reimer played well is on an upswing. priorities seem a bit skewed, they need to focus on getting a new deal for bozak instead as it appears those talks arent going well.

    • valarmorghuliss - Jun 21, 2013 at 12:16 PM

      25?
      double that

    • sunderlanding - Jun 21, 2013 at 3:49 PM

      So what center should they get Mr. Hockey? There aren’t any available, so you get the best player you can. That way maybe you can flip a goalie and a prospect to a team that has a center you want. Don’t be afraid to think before you comment. There is a reason you aren’t a GM.

      • worldseriestiger - Jun 22, 2013 at 11:05 AM

        So, what you are saying is that they are going to trade draft pick A, player B and prospect C for a young, unproven goalie and that they can’t use those assets to get a center?

        Also, there aren’t any center’s available? Or they can’t sign a center *cough* stephen weiss *cough*

      • sunderlanding - Jun 22, 2013 at 1:28 PM

        I really hope they don’t sign Weiss, and I’m glad you aren’t GM. If you’d pay attention the talk is Frattin and a pick for John B. Not that bad. They have a surpluss of wingers anyway. Never hurts to have to NHL potential goalies.

  2. dku5 - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:59 AM

    This is not a report, this is a rumor. Please correct the headline.

    • jpdoc26 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      Shut up

    • Anoesis - Jun 21, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      Agree, speculating on a rumor is hardly a “report.” And no details of any players or picks possibly offered for Bernier makes this speculation even more of a stretch.

  3. yougotgirouxed - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:07 AM

    This is what I would do:

    Buyout Bryz and get a cheap back up for Mason.

    Add defensive depth and talent. We need some defensive defensemen who are going to make mistake and give up breaks and leave players wide open in front of the net. No more Grevais. No more Foster. No more Huskins (who actually wasnt god-awful but when Huskins is playing that many minutes a night, you have problems)

    We need to ride out Stolarz. I was not alive the last time we developed our own goalie who was actually good. If we kept Bob we may be in a better situation, but we didn’t. Bob is like the icing on the cake of young promising players we traded away prematurely because he just one the Vezina.

    Look, we have a strong young core with Cuppish talent. Homegrown defense and goal tending CAN tip the scale. I am willing to be a patient Flyers fan for once in my life because this core can do something special if they are managed the right way.

  4. jb8588 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    If anything, I would like to see articles about who the Flyers AREN’T interested in. It’s absolutely amazing how season after season the Flyers end up in this cap mess and with the amount of turnover they have all the time, wonder why their they can never gel into a serious contender.

    • yougotgirouxed - Jun 21, 2013 at 10:00 AM

      We are serious contenders every season. What are you talking about?

      • bigblackzaranek - Jun 21, 2013 at 10:54 AM

        You owe me a new keyboard, i just spit coffee all over this one thanks to that joke about the Flyers being serious yearly contenders…

      • 19to77 - Jun 21, 2013 at 11:34 AM

        Protip: CONTENDERS MAKE THE PLAYOFFS

      • yougotgirouxed - Jun 21, 2013 at 12:26 PM

        The Flyers have missed the playoffs two season since 94-95. You can get much more consistent than that. Going into this season the Flyers were on several lists to go deep in the playoffs. It didnt work this season for numerous reasons. You dont have to win a cup to be a contender. (And obviously we are sick of just contending every year and not coming home with the hardware)

        But to dismiss the Flyers and say we are not regularly in the mix in just wrong, and probably back by bias against our team.

      • elvispocomo - Jun 21, 2013 at 12:58 PM

        Making the playoffs and being serious contenders are markedly different things.

      • yougotgirouxed - Jun 21, 2013 at 2:36 PM

        This argument is dumb. There is nothing to back up your points here.

      • xmy556ab - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:47 PM

        Flyers have become a joke man! They got sucked in to the overhyped Schenn brothers I’m afraid!

    • isithockeyseasonyet - Jun 21, 2013 at 12:33 PM

      What are we defining as a serious contender? Only team w a better streak of making the playoffs is Detroit, I don’t know exact numbers but flyers are like 17 or 18 times out of the past 20 years….if we are talking making the playoffs as contending, then yes they are (excluding this year of course). Even if we are talking about the second round, flyers made that 3/4 past season…but I see both arguments. Holmgren gets close and when they get close but fall short, his (mr snyder’s?) default move is to shake things up like what worked in the 70’s. please stay out of the bernier sweepstakes, goaltending is a fickle position where some (most?) goaltenders are so emotionally fragile, they’re not worth giving up large bounties for and that’s exactly what they’ll need to do to get bernier

    • biasedhomer - Jun 21, 2013 at 2:41 PM

      Making the playoffs in hockey= contendor.

      All it takes is for your team to get hot, and you can go far in the playoffs.

  5. pdmjr - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:21 AM

    I really don’t understand this fascination with Bernier. Reimer isn’t the problem in Toronto, its whos’ behind the bench. As for the Flyers, they don’t have a clue how to operate with a salary cap.

  6. jimw81 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:44 AM

    There is no possible situation inwhich flyers can bring back bryz. he has pissed off the fan base and probably people in front office. The main problem with holmgren is that he is scared to trade Doug Gilmour oops Coots or cooter because everything that has happen to this club is on his watch. if flyers dont get Bernier, i dont know how homlgren survives.it shows you how weak of a gm homlgren is in the mind of flyers fans. i wish ed snider can see it as well.

    • narfmoo12 - Jun 21, 2013 at 9:55 AM

      So if Holmgren doesn’t ridiculously overpay for Bernier, he should be fired? Sound logic!

      • jimw81 - Jun 21, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        im saying all the moves he made that got this team in this position is his fault.Handing out contracts to over the hill defenseman and players has strap this team.count how many ex-flyers are playing in the finals.

        The only way you are going to get out this situation is buyout bryz and trade the chips you have to improve this club. you can trade read, forward and pick easily for Bernier. then flip coots in another deal for an bobby ryan or young defenseman. have people actually read coots’s scouting report? Trade him now while he has the value. If snider continues comes out and says “we are retooling” then back it up.

        As flyers fan all my i have never saw this kind of insanity from this front office. It makes you begging for clarke to come back.

    • jpelle82 - Jun 21, 2013 at 11:20 AM

      if you dont get bernier then there’s no way you can get rid of bryz. i would be more scared starting the season with mason and leighton. mason is an average at best goalie…he had one season under 3 gaa and is a career .905 save %. with philly’s defensive problems, there’s no reason to believe he will play any better than his averages.

      • narfmoo12 - Jun 21, 2013 at 11:55 AM

        1. Leighton was trade to Columbus for Mason so how would the Flyers have both?
        2. Mason played better than Bryz down the stretch with an AHL defense in front of him because of injuries.
        3. Mason and any back up plus $4-5M in cap space from buying out Bryz (minus the cost of a back up goalie) is better than Mason and Bryz if they use it to improve the defense.

      • dku5 - Jun 21, 2013 at 1:13 PM

        I agree with Pelle – there is no reason to get rid of Bryz until you have a replacement (back up or primary). The first thing they have to do in order to drop Brys is get a second keeper. The Flyers have to dress 2, and that cap space may be valuable when there is a starter to replace him.

        The 6 games Mason played at the end of the season did nothing to confirm whether or not he can play 60+ regular season games plus go far in the playoffs. I think he is a competent back up goalie, with some flaws, but can keep a score low to keep a productive offense in the game.

      • jpelle82 - Jun 21, 2013 at 1:54 PM

        so who would back-up mason then – boucher? either way you’re saying you would want 2 backups to start the season

      • elvispocomo - Jun 21, 2013 at 3:06 PM

        @jpelle82: Bernier’s hardly the only goalie out there.

        @narfmoo12: Ask Columbus how well they did with Mason. He shouldn’t be Philly’s main solution to their goaltending issues.

      • narfmoo12 - Jun 21, 2013 at 7:22 PM

        How well did Philly do with Bobrovski? Your point about Columbus and Mason is now invalid.

  7. earpaniac - Jun 21, 2013 at 11:41 AM

    I don’t understand this from Toronto’s pov at all.

  8. aldog83 - Jun 21, 2013 at 2:30 PM

    Kings need a LW bad!

    What did TORONTO offer? (I agree Reimer played his ass off)

    Hopefully Van Riemsdyk., 1st rd pick????

    If Phlly wants in (They need a goalie BAD, their young talent is getting wasted with poor GK)

    Send Schenn OR Simmonds back to LA and call it a day.

    New Jersey makes sense but they would need to send us the 9th pick overall. They have nothing else.

    Let’s see what happends….Draft will be interesting with TRADE TALK, Bernier LETANG and other have a chance to move!!!!

    • xmy556ab - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:44 PM

      I can’t see Van Riemsdyk and their first round pick for Bernier. I think it#ll be Frattin, Leaf’s first rounder and next year’s second rounder. Perhaps??

  9. Habib Marwan - Jun 21, 2013 at 3:08 PM

    contenders schmenders , it does no good unless you hoist the cup in june …. and the philadelphia flyers arent winning a stanley cup with a duo of steve mason and ilya bryzgalov .. sorry.

  10. aldog83 - Jun 21, 2013 at 3:16 PM

    Flyers should send Simmonds to LA for Bernier.

    Send Coburn and 11th pick to Anaheim for Bobby Ryan.

    • xmy556ab - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:40 PM

      Colburn and an 11th pick for Ryan??? Hey, I got a 2003 Alero I`d like to trade for a new Audi A7 if anyone`s interested????

  11. aldog83 - Jun 21, 2013 at 3:26 PM

    Flyers have the worst ranked prospects according to Hockey Futures .com

    And they have nothing in the pipe for Goaltending.

    Kings had no goal scoring and traded the highest prospect wanted (at the time) Schenn and Simmonds for Richards.

    Kings won the cup, Flyers smoked the Penguins in the first round that year.

    Win…..Win.

    I hope the flyers can make it happen as they have not difference maker in goal since Ron Hextall.

    They just got Streit to help the D.

    They have the #11 pick in a DEEP draft.

    Plenty of young talented forwards…… But momentum gets crushed with goals given up.

    Good Luck.

    If MONTREAL did not have Carey Price Contract over their head…..I bet they would be making a push to have the a star French Canadian Goaltender they have not had since Patrick Roy, (Bernier is from Quebec)

    LOL the Canadiens broadcaster yelled out SAVE ROY in this years playoffs!!! They want that HERO back in the net.

    Price cannot cut it..

    • flyersphaithful48 - Jun 22, 2013 at 8:03 AM

      Flyers have Anthony stolarz a top goalie prospect in the ranks right now what are you talking about?

  12. rpettit123 - Jun 21, 2013 at 7:34 PM

    Toronto has a habit of destroying great goaltenders why should Reimer be any different huh? What the hell do they expect this to do to a upcoming goal tender like Reims, he’s steady and he got us into the playoffs for the first time in how long? Now more idiotic goaltending talk. How long is it going to take before the upper management comes to terms its not the goaltending holding you back, you just need to look as far as Rask to see that. Its the lazy defense core beginning with the Captain that drags an otherwise exciting team back down to bare its mediocre status and is not likely to change until defense is addressed once and for all.

  13. xmy556ab - Jun 21, 2013 at 8:37 PM

    I remember the last time the Leafs traded a first round pick for a starting goaltender! Andrew Raycroft for Tuuka Rask ring a bell?? It proved to be a shrewd move by the Leafs as Andrew Raycroft is currently tearing it up in the Italian league and that Rask fellow??? Not sure where he is now!

  14. aldog83 - Jun 22, 2013 at 2:24 AM

    Dude! Raask is the goalie for Boston…….Crazy!:

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