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Report: Flyers, Ducks talking about Bobby Ryan

Jun 18, 2013, 7:40 PM EDT

Bobby Ryan #9 of the Anaheim Ducks awaits a face off during the NHL game against the Phoenix Coyotes at Jobing.com Arena on March 31, 2012 in Glendale, Arizona. The Coyotes defeated the Ducks 4-0.
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After missing out on the playoffs, the Philadelphia Flyers acquired the rights to 35-year-old offensive defenseman Mark Streit. That might have just been the opening move in what could be another big summer for the franchise.

The Flyers are now talking with the Anaheim Ducks about acquiring 26-year-old forward Bobby Ryan, according to CSN Philly writer Tim Panaccio’s sources. One possible return being discussed is 28-year-old defenseman Braydon Coburn and the 11th overall pick in the 2013 NHL Entry Draft.

Assuming the Flyers sign Streit as reported, the team will have nine blueliners inked to one-way deals, so it wouldn’t be terribly surprising to see one of them would go.

Coburn is a big, physical defenseman and led the team with an average of 22:36 minutes of ice time per contest in 2013. However, he also posted just five points and a minus-10 rating in 33 games.

Ryan is a top-tier scorer who recorded at least 30 goals in four consecutive seasons before the 2013 shortened campaign.

His annual cap hit is $600,000 greater than Coburn’s, which is noteworthy given the Flyers’ tough cap situation. At the same time, the Ducks have considerably more flexibility and the option to retain some of Ryan’s cap hit if they feel it’s in their interests to do so.

It’s worth emphasizing that this structure is just one of the scenarios being discussed, so if there is a trade between the two teams involving Ryan, it might end up looking very different to what’s being described here.

  1. ufostomper - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:00 PM

    Give up coburn and cotourier, great deal

  2. yougotgirouxed - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Like every other Flyers fan, I too get a hard on when I hear the name Bobby Ryan. I would LOVE to have him. Ryan G and Jake would be lethal and I didn’t even need to write that for everyone to know it.

    BUT, our defensive corps killed us last year. Yes we went long stretches without consistent scoring, but I don’t think I can handle another season of never ending 2 on 1s and breakaways against our goalie. Streit is fine. He will help the team but I want to see a defensive defenseman that doesn’t make mistakes and blow assignments all the time. I am open to trading Coburn because doesn’t provide the consistency that we need. His ice time reflects the options Lavy had on the blue line, which to be frank were very poor.

    I would not trade our #1 pick

    • jpelle82 - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:55 AM

      trading away coburn by himself or with a pick doesnt save any money, they would have to throw in another player to help their cap if thats the concern. buying out briere helps of course but streit is gonna eat that up. plus ryan will be a UFA in 2 years, price has gotta be right for a short term guy…depending on how he plays he will want more than 5.6 per year he’s making now. coburn is way overpaid in my opinion but he’s not a BAD player. if you can get ryan for 600,000 more then its well worth it and an excellent upgrade. i agree the 11 pick is way too good to throw in though, especially since thats a pretty high pick for the organization traditionally speaking. as a penguins fan i hope they trade rinaldo with him, i hate that guy….lol.

      • yougotgirouxed - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:16 PM

        There honestly is not a reason to hate Rinaldo. He is an agitator who isnt afraid to fight anybody. (See BJ Crombeen). He draws penalites and is becoming a better hockey player every season. He is not a dirty player and has a good attitude. We want him to play better D and if he can do that and score 10 goals a year we would be thrilled. Any team/fanbase would love to have this guy.

      • jpelle82 - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        but i dont see him playing for my team any time soon so therefore i hate the prospect of seeing him 6 or more times per season. thats all i meant by it. i respect his game, you dont need to defend him. i’d rather have him than 90% of the other “agitators” in the league right now. he reminds me of a cal clutterbuck that fights more. he hits everything that moves and has a scoring touch, knows his role.

  3. laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:06 PM

    Cooby YES……..

    Cooter????……you’re out of your mind,!!!!!!!!!

  4. laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:09 PM

    Oh yeah…….no way in hell should they give up that 11 pick

  5. ufostomper - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:11 PM

    I don’t wanna see couts go but I’d much rather that than schenn or 1st pick

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:15 PM

      Neither, just stay the course.

      Hold onto Schen and Cooter

      Trade Cooby

      Work in either Laurinsen/Gus/Bourdon

      Don’t screw up the draft

      • DonkeyStick - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:32 PM

        You guys sound like little school girls when you use nicknames!

      • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:07 PM

        sorry I’m a little weak on longer French-Canadien spelling…….my apologies

  6. aosplayo - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:12 PM

    Coburn eats up minutes against top lines, something Streit is not and should not be expected to do. I would imagine they are seeking a young up and coming Dman from somewhere.

    Bobby Ryan would be great for G, but I wouldnt include Couts. Id do Schenn and Coburn however, Couts has a special set of skills.

  7. jimw81 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:14 PM

    sweet. get it done.

  8. buffalomafia - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:18 PM

    You need a goalie dummies! Hint Ryan Miller?

    • hockeyfan28 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:27 PM

      Miller is probably not the best fit in Philly he’s always calling out someone in the press and his skills
      are eroding if he thought the Buffalo media was tough on him it would be like going from living in Hawaii
      to moving to the middle of the Bronx

      • jpelle82 - Jun 19, 2013 at 10:29 AM

        he would get eaten alive. buffalomania is pushing hard to sell him off though

  9. hockeyfan28 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:22 PM

    Not surprised Bobby was a junior flyer and his dad works out with flyers management namely Bobby Clarke
    he will be a flyer one of these days one way or another. If I had to get an.elite 30 goal a year power forward like Bobby I’d give them Coburn, Read, and a 2 but gotta keep that number 11 to many really really good players in this draft

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:00 PM

      That sounds about right……….good…….ok….Paul go get it done…Thanks for shopping

  10. crazemastercraze - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:39 PM

    Flyers management: Hilarious

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:05 PM

      Can’t fault them for trying….

    • phillyphanatic77 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 PM

      Besides Streit, they haven’t done anything yet. All these are are baseless rumors. A GM isn’t doing his job if he’s not constantly working on improving his roster. They’ve talked about Ryan for years, and nothings happened. I suspect it’s no different here. Everyones been saying since the season ended that the Flyers would be wheeling and dealing, but this is still just a rumor. When the moves are done feel free to laugh, but right now it’s all talk.

  11. soundsofsuccess7 - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:40 PM

    That’d be a pretty bad deal for the Ducks…

  12. pitpenguinsrulez - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    Have you ever seen the flyers win the cup! Have you ever seen the flyers win the cup! Have you ever seen the flyers win the cup!

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:02 PM

      yep back to back about 30 some odd years ago…..why do you ask?????

    • illadelphiasphinest - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:02 AM

      Have you ever seen Sidney Crosby act like a man????
      I haven’t…..

    • bman7206 - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:07 AM

      He’s just pissed his team got destroyedddddd. Little baby Cindy won’t have anyone pushing him around on the golf course…

  13. kingsforever - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:54 PM

    ^ are you 12?

  14. chrisvegas - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:17 PM

    Why would the Flyers give all that up for Ryan? Coburn is a solid defenseman still in his prime and has been pretty good with the exception of this year. Coburn for Ryan straight up might make sense, but the 11th overall pick with Coburn? The Flyers would be crazy to do that.

  15. slammed81 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:27 PM

    Vegas what coburn are u watching he has been subpar ever since he signed the extension I pray he gets traded

    • chrisvegas - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:53 PM

      That is probably because you are judging him as a top two defenseman when he is a top 4 defenseman. The two seasons prior to this one he was a +25 with 40 points. To put that in perspective the Flyers new defenseman in Streit that they overpaid was a minus 42 in the last two seasons. Coburn is a better defenseman then Streit and in my mind he is the second best defenseman on the team. He is 6’5 and plays a ton of minutes. If the Flyers put him on the market by himself they would get alot more then what the Ducks are going to give up. At 28 years he is at the very beginning of his prime, you don’t trade players away at that age. Not to mention if you look at the Flyers 1st round picks in the last 20 years, they tend to be really good players.

      • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        You make a pretty good argument friend………sigh……

        Just don’t trade young talent……please!!!

      • ibieiniid - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:52 PM

        i’m glad somebody on here agrees with me on Coburn. agreed, horrible year, great d-man. I’d like to see Ryan on the Flyers (not taking into account that we’d hafta move some RWs around), but anything more than Coburn for him would be a bit much for me to handle.

  16. 19to77 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    Another year, another revolving door of players in black and orange. Patience builds Cup winners, not multi-player shakeups every single season.

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:14 PM

      YES

    • chrisvegas - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:48 PM

      You are correct. That is exactly why the Flyers never win cups. They don’t have patience. Imagine if they had patience with Bob? They wouldn’t need a goalie right now and they wouldn’t have to buy out Bryz.

    • hockeyfan28 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:15 AM

      I have absolutely no problem trading Brayden Coburn for a guy who has wanted to play in Philly all his life that’s not being impatient keeping the idiot we have as coach and trading your team captain because he didn’t get along with him that’s impatient

  17. jimw81 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:40 PM

    looks like flyers are cashing in their final chips. Combination of Read/Coots or Read/B.Schenn are gone Bobby Ryan has as always been an obsession for flyers. when they have a obsession over a player they will do anything to get that player. Plus, ryan did podcast with a flyers fan site before the lockout talking about how he would love to return home.

    i think they are loading up because of three reasons 1) Detroit plays in the east starting next season, 2) Penguins and 3)depth. Plus, I think Homer is doing a 180 on this team because of his embarrassing season on and off the ice before and after the lockout.

    if anyone on this site took the time to even watch the finals both chicago and boston has something flyers dont have. 4 lines that can score, depth at defenseman and goaltending.

    • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:17 PM

      OK and I would ask you this Sir.

      How did Boston put their (Stanley Cup winning) roster together ??

      • laxman1944 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

        The Flyer must build from within.

        draft well and DEVELOP players

        NOT trade away young talent (Justin Williams/Patrick Sharp) for washed up old talent that has nothing left in the tank.

        In the end………just be patient and stay the course…….

      • chrisvegas - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:46 PM

        Lazman you are dead on. You build your team through the draft. Flyers always looking for a quickfix. Also why would they even be worried about Ryan right now when they need to fix their goalie position and their defense? Flyers always make the mistake to sign old players and trade away their young talent. A little more patience and this team would probably have won a cup or two in the last 15 years.

      • narfmoo12 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:06 AM

        In what world is 26 year old Bobby Ryan an old washed up talent with nothing left in the tank?

      • laxman1944 - Jun 19, 2013 at 9:22 AM

        Never said Ryan was washed up…..BUT the price would have to be right and not sacrifice your young core.

        I was more speaking of Coffey/Markov

  18. icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:46 PM

    They have been talking for a couple of years now haha. When the first shoe drops, let me know. I do like the idea of Cobi leaving town: was the biggest liability on the blue line.

  19. jhuck92 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    I said this last summer when this came up: I would love to see Bobby Ryan come home to Cherry Hill and play for Philadelphia. He’s a great player who can hopefully revive Philly’s dormant offense.

  20. tcclark - Jun 18, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    i’d be fine with Coburn and Laughton. I wouldn’t be terribly upset about trading #11, but obviously in a deep draft like this I would much rather us keep that pick. However, having the opportunity to get a perennial 30 goal scorer would be amazing. You can see what G does for the other players. Look at Hartnell two years ago and Voracek last year. Players play so much better when they’re playing with G. Obviously Bobby has been playing with Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf all these years, but neither of them are the playmaker that G is. He could do great things for this team.

    • leiterfelixleiter - Jun 18, 2013 at 11:22 PM

      Getzlaf isn’t the playmaker that Giroux is? HA! Tell that to Corey Perry, his Hart Trophy and his Rocket Richard Trophy.

      • tcclark - Jun 19, 2013 at 9:25 AM

        I’m sorry, in his last full season Ryan Getzlaf had 57 points… Claude Giroux had 65 assists. Assists… not points. And he wasn’t playing next to Corey Perry the entire season.

        Getzlaf is good. Claude Giroux is great.

  21. leiterfelixleiter - Jun 18, 2013 at 11:21 PM

    Here’s what I propose:

    Flyers Get:
    Bobby Ryan
    Bryan Allen
    Ducks 1st Round Pick in 2013 (26th overall)

    Ducks Get:
    Braydon Coburn
    Sean Couturier
    Flyers 1st Round Pick in 2013 (11th overall)

    Make it happen.

  22. bobhpine - Jun 18, 2013 at 11:41 PM

    The Streit deal should make Flyers fans the most nervous. It’s indicative of a desperate GM. That deal is too long for a 35+ player; hell, Datsyuk didn’t even get four years. The NTC is even crazier. Why trade for Streit if that’s the contract you’re willing to offer? That deal would have blown everyone else put of the water.

    And yes, Philly has been obsessed with Ryan for awhile now. After such a miserable year, Holmgren appears quite eager to do some major dealing. I’d be worried about what he might give up to get a player Anaheim is well aware that he covets. That first round pick ends up being a nice commodity when you finish in the bottom third of the league; it’s hardly just a throw in. Coburn one of their few stay at home defenseman, no? As bad as Philly was this year, was scoring more of an issue than D and goaltending? Does weakening the suspect D corp for more scoring really improve the team?

    Either way the roster turnover is nuts. Richards and Carter were dumped ostensibly because they had a drinking problem that surprisingly vanished once they got to LA, a city where you might be able to find a party if you looked. They’re now cup champs. So Carter nailed Hartnell’s lady. So what. Look at Hartnell. The man is a goblin. Who can blame the poor girl? Bobs was dealt of course because Philly hates any and all goaltenders that have the nerve to let in a goal every now and then. Standing pat with just those guys would make this team better.

    Far better than eleventh in the conference anyway.

    • narfmoo12 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:42 AM

      Carter for Voracek and Couturier is a deal every GM would do then and now. Bob had a GAA around 3.00 and a save % under .900 last year. I’m sure everyone in the world saw this fluke season coming.

    • laxman1944 - Jun 19, 2013 at 9:29 AM

      Pine you are with out a doubdt a pot stirring pain in the butt………

      That being said, your assesment is pretty spot on.

      I just hope they learn from the past and not screw with a solid young core of players.

  23. Habib Marwan - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    flyer fans are bitter when it comes to carter… they cant forgive him for shooting that puck high over the wide open net in OT of game 6 of in finals a few years ago.. I guess they forget the fact that he was only a goal scoring machine lol…. when voracek and simmonds cant duplicate their flukey amount of points they got this past half year.. they’ll be begging for someone else

    • narfmoo12 - Jun 19, 2013 at 12:25 AM

      Voracek had a “flukey amount of points”???? You do realize that this was what has been expected of him for a few years? You do realize he plays with Giroux? You do realize that you know nothing about hockey?

      • Habib Marwan - Jun 19, 2013 at 3:09 AM

        giroux was rather pedestrian without jagr by his side right?

  24. bobhpine - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:28 AM

    Yeah man, 87 looked pretty cool lifting the Stanley Cup over his head.

    In other news, Bobby Clarke is like 65 years old.

  25. bobhpine - Jun 19, 2013 at 2:31 AM

    What will happen first, Bobby Clarke dies of old age or the Flyers win a cup?

    RIP Bobby. 1975.

    • laxman1944 - Jun 19, 2013 at 9:33 AM

      Sigh……back to being an a$$hole I see……

      How did 87 do this year???…..oh yeah had his lunch money stolen yet again….0 for 4 my man

      • lbj55 - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM

        This years draft is not very deep with talent. I say trade the 11th.

  26. antmel30 - Jun 19, 2013 at 11:06 AM

    I swear do people in this chat even know or follow hockey. First off pens fans are talking about cap and old players and giving up on talent what about getting rid of four good prospects let alone a good one in Morrow a d prospect that could of helped your mediocre defense for two 35 + players for three months. Pens have 30% of revenue in three guys and if you sign letang it jumps to the 35 to 40 % in four players. How do you guys expect to build a decent team. You better be master drafters otherwise you guys won’t sniff cup for a while.

    Second if flyers do this deal getting rid of coburn because he has underachieved and flyers have to much cap locked up in d and give up the 11 th overall pick to get a proven nhl 30 goal scorer who is in his prime at age 26 how is this a dumb move. Who knows who is going to be there at number 11 but the guy they pick could potentially never sniff the nhl. I don’t care how deep this draft is going to be but I’ll take a proven player in prime to go along with my very young core. Or the people saying you have to build through draft you’re right but you usually find those pieces in later rounds and they develop or you find prospects over seas. You can’t be afraid to give up picks to get great player especially to play with your core guys who are all still in their twenties and have years to play and mold together. Why wait for or five years for the pick from this year to see if he can play in nhl when your young core now will also be older. Why not form it now with proven player and get them playing together for couple years. A prospect is a crap shoot unless they are the number one or two pick you never know how that particular pick will react to higher level of competition.

    Third with the streit signing. Wo else is out there to get. He was the best free agent on the d market. He actually took less then he could’ve gotten on the open market. Flyers are paying him for his puck movement and pp skills. A good puck moving d can still get puck out fast and create transition. He is old at 35 going on 36 but he is great skater and paired with right person can be very productive. Their are plenty of players who had good yrs after 34-35 yrs old.

    STOP HATING

    • hockeyfan28 - Jun 19, 2013 at 1:58 PM

      It’s the Internet antmel everyone is an armchair gm Bobby Ryan would be the best
      Power forward this team has had since the glory days of Johnny Leclair

  27. mattyo99 - Jun 20, 2013 at 3:47 AM

    Another summer of this crap.. Better not give up that 11th pick or any young talent

  28. chasingfisher - Jun 20, 2013 at 5:55 PM

    I would love to see Bobby in the winged wheel! It could be done for the right price, as with most deals. it would be some amazing hockey for him and pav to be on the same line. Here’s to hoping that kenny looks the ducks way for discussions.

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