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Discuss: Bruins smother ‘Hawks, take 2-1 series lead

Jun 17, 2013, 10:50 PM EDT

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The Chicago Blackhawks lamented that they played into the Boston Bruins’ hands in Game 2. If that’s true, then they were stuck in a straight-up bear hug in Game 3.

Boston won 2-0, totally befuddling Chicago in all areas of the game. The B’s now have a 2-1 series lead and could really take a stranglehold on the series if they win on Wednesday. Let’s chat it up.

  • No doubt about it, people are going to be talking about the Blackhawks’ putrid power play. But what about the credit for the Bruins’ penalty kill? This unit shut down the Pittsburgh Penguins’ potent man advantage in their third-round series and are doing the same in the Stanley Cup Final. Heck, they were outstanding way back in 2011 against a dangerous Vancouver Canucks group, too.
  • Blackhawks fans: what was the most frustrating moment of futility on those power plays? Duncan Keith passing up a wide-open shot might make a few lists, but there were likely other notable moments.
  • Let’s go back to a theme of Discuss posts: how much is Tuukka Rask worth now? He’ll be a restricted free agent, but this is the kind of run that could add a million or two (or 10) to a contract, overall.
  • How much did the Blackhawks miss Marian Hossa? Did Joel Quenneville put together the right kind of lines to cope with that late crisis? What should he do if Hossa misses more time?
  • The brightest spot for Chicago might be Corey Crawford. Do you expect him to be this strong in the future?
  • Asking again: what’s the best nickname for the Tyler SeguinChris KellyDaniel Paille line? (People don’t seem impressed by SKiP.)
  • A hearty congratulations to Jaromir Jagr, who pulled ahead of Paul Coffey for fifth all-time in playoff scoring on Monday, giving him 197 in his outstanding career.
  • Do you expect to see a “different” Blackhawks team in Game 4 or could the Bruins take a 3-1 series lead?
  1. nunan - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    Controlled most of that game. Steady throughout…vs an emotional push at the beginning and let down later on…Bs are just steady.

  2. stoopidfool - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    The Blackhawks would have had a better chance if they used soccer goals

    • dt58 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      Fitting handle

      • stoopidfool - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        You sound angry

  3. alan226 - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    I think Rask is in Chicago’s head now. Trying to shoot too fine, lobbing long shots, shooting off net.

    • adambballn - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      This happened against Howard in Detroit… They need to get pucks at the next and stop trying to make the perfect pass.

    • dt58 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:17 PM

      Same thing happened last year with Smith

  4. therolandobottom - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    Tuuka Rask is in the zone. Bruins set the tone the whole game. Keep it up boys

  5. LampyB - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Pumped to see the B’s outstanding consistency. Can’t wait to see some of the desperate justification posts from Hawks fans. Yeah, you missed the net a bunch of times. Better hope they actually show up to play hockey on Wed.

    • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:40 AM

      No justification needed, they played terrible. No need to put fans on blast, this is why they play 7 games, not just one.

  6. bigdaddy44 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    I thought the Blackhawks were too good to let the Bruins beat them in this fashion. A complete 60 minute effort, that you just had the feeling that the Bruins were going to win this game no matter what. Let’s see the way that this tough Blackhawks team responds on Wednesday.

  7. anotheryx - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Bergeron was 23/27 in FO… that’s just filthy.

    • valarmorghuliss - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM

      Most under-rated stat in hockey

    • govtminion - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM

      It almost feels unfair, doesn’t it? There may be no more underrated player in the NHL than Bergeron- outside of Rask, I’d call him by far the most important player on the B’s roster.

      • dudermcrbohan - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:44 PM

        i remember all the media people made like it was the end of the world when he was having concussion issues.

      • tlndma - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:08 AM

        It’s a tie with Chara. Z may not always be pretty but, he is the best defensive Dman in the game. He’s in the Hawks heads too.

    • nhloon - Jun 18, 2013 at 11:14 AM

      Dayum !!

  8. jacketsfan7 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    How about the PeSK line? I didn’t come up with it but I don’t remember who did

  9. joeyg88 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    Hope hossa isn’t concussed

  10. sheckyrimshot - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:05 PM

    how about the PSK line in honor of my homeboy schooly d

  11. valarmorghuliss - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    Remember when the Bruins were down 4-1 in game 7 to the Leafs?

    • scottybcboy - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      Seems like a lifetime ago, but so does 2011!

    • chanceoffleury1 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:35 PM

      The first words out of my mouth whenever the Bergeron scored in overtime of game 3 of the Pens series was “F%&# THE MAPLE LEAFS! F%&# EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM!” I knew it was all but over in my heart and I imagine if the Bruins win Game 4 similar feelings will be felt by Blackhawks fans. I remember watching that game and thinking how there was no way they were coming back. They have surely shown me. It makes for a great story for Bruins fans (and players) to tell their kids/grandkids one day though. Nobody’s ever won the Stanley Cup without a little bit of adversity, and they got theirs out early.

      • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM

        Great point, the Hawks had to face adversity with the Red Wings, and that was a series that was really entertaining. Both of these teams deserve the cup IMO, unfortunately only one can win it.

  12. alan226 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    The Bruins are just a way more physical team. Hitting everything, finishing checks. It seems like the Blackhawk players are constantly picking themselves off the ice.

    You could see the ‘Hawks getting frustrated as the game went on….

  13. jpat2424 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:07 PM

    Another great game. Hawks fan here. Only thing Boston did wrong tonight was having a D bag do the national anthem. Other then that we were outplayed every step of the way. Are big time players are not stepping up. (Screaming now) The PP is pathetic. Unbelievable. Hopefully we can steal game 4. Cause it really could be 3-0 right now. Go hawks. Please go hawks. I love hockey.

    • alan226 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:11 PM

      It just looks like the Bruins are waaay more the physical team and either the Blackhawks didn’t expect it or weren’t ready to handle it.

    • savoirlaire - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:12 PM

      Hey, Rene Rancourt has been doing it for 35 years, see what 3 fist pumps from our D bag does to your Hawks!

    • valarmorghuliss - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:14 PM

      Rene Rancourt or “D bag” as you refer to him, was a Green F’n Beret in Vietnam with a Purple Heart to show for it, so show some respect.

      That being said, Rene can’t sing anymore and I’m not sure if he ever could.

      • govtminion - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        He’s usually decent at least, tonight was pretty noticeably poor though- his timing was way off on the song.

        Very cool guy though, it was a pleasure to meet him a couple of years ago- he’s a very quick-witted and fun person to talk to.

      • vontazemebro - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:15 AM

        You are incorrect.

        “In the 1960s when Rancourt was drafted into the Army for the Vietnam War, his voice, he said, kept him out of battle.

        “I was about to be sent to Vietnam when I entered a singing contest,” Rancourt said. He won. The prize? A spot in a GI traveling show. “I never had to leave the states. You want to talk about luck.”

    • dt58 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:15 PM

      Hawks had chances but Bos deserved to win this one. Not taking anything away from Bs PK (20+ kills in a row in playoffs is impressive) but Hawks PP is horrible, like that way all year. They’ve got way too much skill to not even get scoring chances. Really missed Hossa tonight and Kane needs to man up.

    • stoopidfool - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:42 PM

      Oh jeez……..thats weak

    • joestemme - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:18 AM

      Nice post overall, but, leave out the attack on the Rene. Geez, just go get a beer before next game and skip his singing.

      And, considering what the B’s did to Pittsburgh, you can’t just say the Hawks’ “PP is pathetic” – give the Bruins the bulk of the credit.

    • jimthebear - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:45 AM

      Renee Rancourt has been doing the anthems for 40 years now.. He’s a Boston Staple.. The Pats even use him from time to time..

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:49 AM

      I know some of the new Hawks fans may not understand, but other teams have traditions, and Rene is a Boston tradition.

      At least Boston didnt have to purposely build the acoustics of the TD Garden to make it a “madhouse”.

    • rc33 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:14 AM

      The fanbase that’s been shoving the played-out-two-decades-ago Blues Brothers down America’s throat for an eternity is calling RR a D bag?
      I predict a four fist pump effort before Game 4. The Hawks might as well remain in their hotel rooms.

      • comeonnowguys - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:40 PM

        I don’t think RR’s d-bag, but show me where the Blues Brothers are singing the national anthem regularly for the Blackhawks. Otherwise, it really has no bearing on this.

  14. adambballn - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:12 PM

    Hawks just need to win 1 of 2 in Boston. Game 4 will be huge, the last and only time this season the Hawks got shut out was game 4 against Detroit… They cranked out 5 straight wins after that. Lets see how they respond Wednesday.

    • jimthebear - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:47 AM

      The Bruins are NOT Detroit..

  15. 19to77 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    alan226 is right. Rask is in their heads. Snapping panicked shots off without settling them, taking too long and trying to make a pretty pass the few times they had real one-timer opportunities, and Patrick freaking Kane missing the net? That’s pressure on the shooter screwing with his head, and it’s happening to almost all of them.

    On top of that, the Bruins are straight-up humiliating the Blackhawk power play. Three shots on four attempts, and the best chance at a goal in any of them seemed to come from Paille shorthanded. That kind of absolute strangulation starts to screw with any team’s morale.

    • adambballn - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      Hawks have new here before… Howard was owning them too. Key will be Hossa, if he’s done the Hawks likely are too. Too big of a loss for them to overcome, series is too tight.

    • adambballn - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:16 PM

      Hawks have been here before… Howard was owning them too. Key will be Hossa, if he’s done the Hawks likely are too. Too big of a loss for them to overcome, series is too tight.

      • 19to77 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 PM

        Particularly if Toews and Kane continue to do absolutely nothing on the scoreboard. Your three best players simply can’t not score in the Finals. If Hoss the Boss is out, those two either light up, right now, or the team is done.

      • adambballn - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:32 PM

        Quenneville is going to have to mix up the lines and try to create better matchups for Toews… This feels a lot like the Detroit series but Chicago can’t afford to get down 3-1 to Boston, they’re much better than Detroit.

      • stoopidfool - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:47 PM

        Cliche………,.the bruins have been there too…….when was the hawks last goal?

      • adambballn - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:00 AM

        They had 2 goals in 3 games against Detroit before cranking it up and winning the series… Just saying.. You only have a one game lead, if the Hawks win Wednesday the series is tied and they have home ice back. They’ve played good goalies in the playoffs and have found a way to beat them. I’m not ready to crown the Bruins yet.

      • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

        as someone else posted……the bruins are not the red wings….the hawks are a crossbar away from being down 3-0……..

        the birdmen aren’t going to beat you………..toews and kane are getting the crosby/malkin treatment…….shaw is not going to win this thing for the hawks

    • homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:04 AM

      and keep in mind Boston is doing this well on the kill without one of their best short handed players….

  16. tdrusher225 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    Chara is looking more and more deserving of the Conn Smythe, shutting down every challenge that has come his way. Chicago has to stop letting Rask get clear looks at all of their shots or they’re screwed.

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:55 AM

      Most underrated aspect of the Bruins defense, they create clear lanes for Tuukka to see the shot.

      • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:32 AM

        the only guy who the blackhawks have that can push around with the bruins defenders is bickell, and look what chara did to him for spending too much time in front of the goal

      • tdrusher225 - Jun 18, 2013 at 3:21 PM

        Absolutely, and I wish it would get more recognition than it does. That being said that has to be a focus for the Blackhawks is finding ways to get traffic and pressure in front of the net. They had so few rebound opportunities last night.

  17. pastabelly - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:27 PM

    Well earned #1 star for Bergeron. The job he has done against Crosby and Kane and on face offs is off the charts.

  18. mpops86 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:29 PM


  19. boomer1451 - Jun 17, 2013 at 11:59 PM

    Why was the ice so bad tonight?

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 18, 2013 at 2:03 AM

      You may not know this but ice is actually frozen water which requires temperature to be below 32 degrees fahrenheit and in lieu of that, plumbing underneath to freeze said water. If the air temperature is too hot or too muggy, the ice does not freeze as well. As it is the middle of June, it become both hot and muggy.

      • jimthebear - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:50 AM

        And also, ice is not an excuse for a team playing poorly.. Last time I checked, both teams had to play on the same ice.

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:57 AM

      Boston got some big storms right before game time that really cranked up the humidity.

    • homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM

      it was 90 degrees here yesterday….

    • cbmurphy7 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:17 PM

      My speculation: Jacobs is a skinflint who would not shell out for a better climate control system in the TD Garden.

      Seems consistent with this character.

  20. sprtsfan1 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:01 AM

    Hossa aside, no excuses. Bruins look like the better team. Just playing a better overall game. Hawks haven’t played nearly to the potential of the talent on the team. This is sad to watch. Haven’t scored a goal in nearly six periods now!

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:01 AM

      I know this may seem crazy, but when the two best offensive teams in the NHL are shut down, perhaps the other team’s “potential” is just alot better.

    • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:26 AM

      unfortunately for the hawks, kane and toews have been stuffed in a bag somewhere, and the rest of the team is not going to cut it……

      zero goals since they put seguin with kelly and paille……..113:48 ago

      add to that the fact that big boy bickell got rag dolled around by chara like he was staggering drunk……leaves the hawks with no answers

      • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:36 AM

  21. mgcolby - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:37 AM

    246 minutes of hockey played in this series and the Bruins have out played the Hawks in all but 30 of them (First 10 minutes of game 1 and the first period of game 2). If not for two lucky bounces leading to goals and a slew of missed chances by Boston in OT of game 1, this series is 3-0. It may be close on the scoreboard, kudos to a stingy Crawford, but it really isn’t as close as the scoreboard suggests.

    Do the Hawks players know it is legal to lay down and block a shot? If the Hawks don’t play 60 minutes of hockey on Wednesday night like they did for 20 minutes Saturday night, this series will be over in no more than 6 games.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 18, 2013 at 2:01 AM

      The first two games went to overtime and both could have gone to the Blackhawks

      • mjdkid100 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:05 AM

        Both games could’ve gone to Boston too and it would be 3-0.

      • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:38 AM

        This series could be 2-1 Hawks or 3-0 Bruins. This game was the only game that was actually controlled by one team, yeah Bickell rang one off the post in the last minute of the game, but the Hawks looked terrible.

        Puck Luck happens, Hawks got lucky game 1, Bruins got lucky game 2 in the early stages, Bruins dominated game 3. Hawks need to answer.

      • comeonnowguys - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:43 PM

        You don’t understand Timmeh. It’s only lucky if it happens AGAINST your team. Otherwise it’s a superior display of skill. Get with the program.

    • homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

      Id say the Hawks outplayed the Bruins for most of the 3rd period of game 1 too.

      • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:27 AM

        3rd period of game 1 and 1st period of game 2 belong to the hawks…..everything else belongs to the bruins

  22. gingerkid2000 - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:11 AM

    Gotta love Hawks fans. After game 1 “Hawks lead series 1-0. They got this.” After game 2 “Series maybe tied but Hawks still got this.” After game 3 “Bruins are only ahead by 1 game. Plenty if hockey left so 1 game lead means nothing.”

    • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 9:56 AM

      Would you not have faith in your team if you were down 2-1 in a series? Yeah some bandwagon/uneducated fans come off as cocky pieces and ruin it for the true fans. 1 game lead is manageable in a 2-1 series if the right changes are made, but Q and the Hawks have to get it figured out, they can go down 3-1 against Detroit and come back, but Boston is too good to fall down 3-1 to.

      • cbmurphy7 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:23 PM

        I would be more concerned that the Hawks are down one Hossa than down one game.

        For the series so far, I think the first two games are more indicative of how these teams play one another than last night’s was.

        Bruins fan here, but I wouldn’t be as thrilled with the B’s chances if they lose a key player like Bergeron, Krejci, or Chara. Hossa as a late scratch is a serious detriment.

      • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:40 PM

        @cbmurphy you are on point there.

        That’s how I felt as a Hawks fan towards Boston when Horton went out in game one. Not only were you missing his presence on ice, BUT you were a body short on the bench. Did that contribute to the fatigue? Who knows, every one was tired after playing 6 periods of hockey, it was to the point where the lucky bounce needed to happen as I don’t think a pretty goal was going to come.

        Horton’s back which is good for you, bad for us. Hossa is day-to-day, good for you, bad for us. Hopefully he will return Wednesday. The late scratch didn’t help, as the previous article stated, Smith went from lunch with his mom to playing for Hossa. I don’t think I could mentally prepare myself to come in and play game 3 against a team as tough as the Bruins, especially in the SCF.

      • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:35 PM

        Smith actually looked ok, but he sure isn’t Hossa. Huge loss.

  23. drewsylvania - Jun 18, 2013 at 8:44 AM

    The Seguin line?

    Legion of Vroom.

  24. homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:07 AM

    why do we need to come up with stupid names for the lines?

    • stoopidfool - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:41 AM

      it beats putting your favorite players on the side of a milk carton ala toews and kane

      • homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 10:47 AM

        I agree 100%. But I had a laugh when I heard the HULK line, I watch every game and never heard that. Now we are trying to name the 3rd line? I just find it dumb.

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:13 PM

      The only line on the Bruins with a “name” is the Merlot line, named for the color of their practice sweaters.

      • homelanddefense - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM

        Right, and any B’s fan knows that. So where is all this Hulk, Pesk, etc crap coming from? National media and fans?

      • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 4:45 PM

        I think it’s from Tripping Pierre.

  25. sprtsfan1 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    For all you Boston fans who keep saying the series could be 3-0, Other than last nights game the two previous games went to OT, so the series could also easily be 2-1. There’s a lot of factors that goes into winning a Championship in any sport. One of those factors is “Luck”. Hopefully it’ll be on the Hawks side in game 4, because the way they’ve played so far in this series, they’re gonna need it. I’ll give credit to the B’s for doing what they’ve had to, but the Hawks have not played to their potential for a full game yet. Hopefully it’ll happen before it’s too late.

    • grilledjesus - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:45 PM

      sprtsfan1 – Jun 18, 2013 at 12:43 PM
      ” but the Hawks have not played to their potential for a full game yet. Hopefully it’ll happen before it’s too late.”

      Why is it that no team or fan base can just say, “Hey, the Bruins are better than us at all the little things that win games, thats why we are losing.” I realize it hurts to lose, but the top two offensive teams in the NHL have been/are being shut down. Give the Bruins some credit.

  26. sprtsfan1 - Jun 18, 2013 at 12:46 PM

    Timmeh, I just noticed your post before I posted mine. Well said

  27. hammerhead5573 - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:16 PM

    If there is one thing i have seen through this season is never, ever count the Hawks out if anything. They may not look good at all times but they somehow figure it out. It is looking really bleak right now but any good or lucky goal can change everything in a split 2nd. And for those knuckleheads out there saying hawk fans have been talking crap about this that or the other thing, you really should think before hitting the post button. I recall some really bright people coming on only 5 mins after hawks beat L.A. To say bruins in 4 or 5 or whatever. So please spare us all with the accusations of the smack talk. Most Hawks fans I’ve read from have been mostly gracious in victory or defeat.

    • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM


  28. sprtsfan1 - Jun 18, 2013 at 5:13 PM

    @Grilledjesus, did you even read my post? I did give the B’s credit. I gave the Wings credit when they put the Hawks down 3 games to 1 too. Your boys have our boys off our game, preventing us from playing to our full potential. I strait up am admitting that the B’s have played better than the Hawks. I’m not counting the Hawks out by any means though. They have always seemed to find a way and I wouldn’t expect anything less from them now. I still see this series going to 7 games. Go Hawks!!!

    • mgcolby - Jun 18, 2013 at 5:34 PM

      I can’t speak for GrilledJesus, but when the Bruins were spanking the Penguins around the ice all we heard was what is wrong with the Penguins, they are playing as well as they should or can etc….it seemingly never occured to most folks that maybe the Penguins were playing the best they could against the Boston Bruins. And that the Bruins were simply the better team. And now the same is being said about the Hawks in this series. The Bruins are a lot better than most fans either think or are willing to admit for whatever reason. Its not an accident that this core group won the cup two years ago and its not an accident that they are in the cup again with the series lead.

      • timmeh022 - Jun 18, 2013 at 7:32 PM

        B’s don’t have the series lead by accident. That’s for sure.

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