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Caps’ coach says Crosby ‘didn’t have an MVP season’

Jun 15, 2013, 9:58 PM EDT

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Washington Capitals coach Adam Oates must know that many believe Sidney Crosby should have won the 2013 Hart Trophy instead of Alex Ovechkin. His response to the Canadian Press’ Stephen Whyno is sure to raise a few eyebrows.

“[Sidney Crosby] is an MVP in this league. He is,” Oates said. “But in saying that, he also didn’t have an MVP season.”

This isn’t the first time an admittedly biased Oates gave his 27-year-old star the edge over his prominent rival, as he made a similar point about the time Crosby missed when asked in mid-April.

Crosby, 25, was predictably diplomatic about the injury factor.

“I was in the mix,” Crosby said. “Alex had a great second half there and I ended up getting hurt and missing some time.”

Capitals GM George McPhee backed up the perceived need to play close to a full season to get the Hart, noting that Ovechkin fought through injuries of his own.

“Durability is part of being a great player,” McPhee said.

If nothing else, this debate might help to reignite a rivalry that seemingly went a little dormant the last couple seasons.

 

 

  1. ravenscaps48 - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:01 PM

    Well, what do you guys expect him to say?

    • valarmorghuliss - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:05 PM

      Nothing outside of “Crosby is a great player, but Ovy deserved to win”

      • Kristenaux - Jun 16, 2013 at 9:07 AM

        As a Pens fan, I have to say…look at what this award stands for. Who it is designed to honor. Whoever you are as a fan, you have to admit that Ovie certainly deserved this award over Sid. That is saying nothing bad about Sid…it is just recognizing what Ovie did for his team this season. Would I have liked Sid to win it? Yeah, you bet. But I also would have liked him to deserve it and he didn’t.

    • jpelle82 - Jun 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM

      since he doesnt know what it takes to win one himself, he should probably say nothing

      • babykaby - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:16 AM

        You are an idiot.

  2. REDSKINSFORLIFE - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    The caps will dominate pitt and Cindy like they have been.

    • hazlydose - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:32 PM


      6-2

      • ravenscaps48 - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:32 PM

        Dick

      • bmoreredfury311 - Jun 16, 2013 at 9:51 AM

        how did flower do this year this year in the playoffs? Oh that’s right he rode the pine. Keep holding on to the past Hen fans, cause that’s all you got!

  3. steelers88 - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:14 PM

    Hmm. Let me think did the Caps beat the Penguins at all this season? Let me think NO! The Penguins swept the season series.

    • phipfwe76 - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:30 PM

      How is that in any way relevant to who won MVP?

      • ispeakpittsburghese - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:09 PM

        Probably in reference to the “The caps will dominate pitt and Cindy like they have been.” comment.

    • drone501 - Jun 16, 2013 at 1:05 AM

      pens have had their way with the caps for years

      • alexnewca - Jun 16, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        That’s not true at all. The caps have won the season series quite often against the pens, but this year they didn’t.

    • Kristenaux - Jun 16, 2013 at 9:08 AM

      …and that proves what when it comes to this award? Do you understand what the award is given for? Better go read up.

    • dudermcrbohan - Jun 16, 2013 at 11:52 AM

      the Penguins swept the season series against the Bruins too. How’d that work out in the end?

  4. jacketsfan7 - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:41 PM

    He didn’t even play the whole season while ovi waylaying around until he’d get injured

  5. biffnasty - Jun 15, 2013 at 10:47 PM

    if whining, complaining or embellishing were taken into account…cindy would have ran away with the award

  6. 19to77 - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    And taking half the season off only to start giving a sh*t when you notice you’re out of the playoffs IS MVP-worthy? Please. Ovechkin only works when he feels he has something to gain from it personally.

    • hockeydon10 - Jun 16, 2013 at 8:04 AM

      Half the season?

      In the 24 games that constitute half this season, he had 20 points. That’s hardly taking half the season off.

    • babykaby - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:30 AM

      Obviously you know nothing about Ovechkin. He is way more team oriented than Crosby. Plus Ovechkin has great sportsmanship. Whenever anyone says Sid is a great leader/captain I bust out laughing. How can anyone be a great leader when he is such a poor sport he won’t even follow the traditions of the game by shaking the hands of the winners of the game. Case in point, the winter classic in case you are wondering.

      As far as the cup goes, Sidney did not win it, the Pens won it. He would never have been able to win the cup without the contributions of the entire team. No single player wins the cup. Pens fans need to recognize that fact. This year they had the most stacked team in the league and were embarrassed by the Bruins. Where was Crosby in that series? Oh yeah, whining to the refs. Last year was an even worse display of childish behavior. With the teams the Pens put out on the ice each year they should be a dynasty. The Caps haven’t had a decent fully stacked team in years.

  7. steelers88 - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    The only reason why Ovechkin won the MVP over Crosby is because if Crosby goes down the Penguins have other superstars to fill the void. If Ovechkin would ever get injured the Capitals would be in serious trouble because well….. The rest of the team sucks.

    • tdrusher225 - Jun 16, 2013 at 12:08 AM

      Sucks is a bit much, but yes Ovechkin was more valuable to his team. Which is why he deserved to win the award. It’s become fighting over whose the lesser loser if you ask me, but whatever.

  8. kevindunn21 - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:29 PM

    Oates is getting real comfortable for a guy who just barely edged Winnipeg in a mediocre division and followed it up with an epic round 1 choke job. He will be unemployed, at least as a head coach, by this time next year.

    • bmoreredfury311 - Jun 16, 2013 at 10:01 AM

      Yeah, the Hens would know about chocking.

      Here’s another feel good article for you hen fans. Your Dream team gets knocked out and SWEPT off the porch. So PENS HOCKEY TALK finds a sound bite by the Caps couch, so that all the hen fans can band together and whine and talk Sh*t about other teams to make self’s feel better. Sad, sad, sad…

      • crashtheboards55 - Jun 16, 2013 at 4:29 PM

        Sad sad sad. What is chocking anyway? Is that a new term to describe the crapital’s success in the playoffs? Or is that the total number of cups that Ovechkin has won? Sound about the same. They are about to become even more irrelevant than they are now since they are actually going to be playing in a real division now. Ovechkin should definitely get an award for leaving his feet and head shots. Crybaby punk.

      • bmoreredfury311 - Jun 17, 2013 at 10:13 PM

        Ok so i spelled “choking” wrong and im wrong in that context,

        But i’m still very right about the hens and you would know about a ‘Crybaby”. That’s the captain of the non-flying, EPIC FAIL of a dream team which is the Sh8ttbrugh Henguins. See the Caps weren’t favored for the Cup, this year or the other year. But OH the hens: those over glorified hens, were. “The best team in the NHL”. CHOKED hard! Very hard!

        So keep being, the typical whinny B-tch, which is most of hens fan and complain about Ovi. Keep saying he doesn’t deserve it, because at the end of the day. Ovi won it over, Cindy. And please look at the definition of the Hart Trophy.
        D-bag :)

    • alexnewca - Jun 16, 2013 at 1:43 PM

      No he won’t lol that’s a pretty ignorant statement. Oates did a great job and still is as a coach. The players love playing under him and he won’t be going anywhere. An I wouldn’t call it a choke at all, considering the rangers were projected to win the cup when the season started.

  9. cavafox - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:34 PM

    Lets see how durable Ovie would be taking a full slap shot to the jaw.

    • alexnewca - Jun 16, 2013 at 1:44 PM

      Well, he has been hit in the face with a puck. Happened earlier this season.

  10. pitpenguinsrulez - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:48 PM

    @REDSKINSFORLIFE yeah going 0-3 vs. the Pens this season SURE is dominating I must. How bout that 1-7 series record vs the Pens in the playoffs? How’s it feel to have lead in the majority of those series only to choke them away to the Pens which is a tradition in the playoffs for the Crapitals.

    • devilsarethebest - Jun 15, 2013 at 11:55 PM

      As if the Pens are playoff masters themselves…

      • jpelle82 - Jun 16, 2013 at 8:59 AM

        3 cups = 3x more mastery than the caps

  11. taintedlombardis - Jun 16, 2013 at 12:13 AM

    Crosby shouldn’t have even been considered. He got lapped in goals. His teammates score his “points”. Sid “the assist” Kid.

    • fredzky - Jun 16, 2013 at 10:27 AM

      Really? Gretzky has always said assist are move important that goals because if you can’t get the guy a pass hat he isn’t scoring..How many people have unassisted goals in the league? He had 894 goals compared to 1963 assists. So I guess he wasn’t any good either. Having watched Greztky play his whole career I’m going to go with Crosby is twice the playmaker Ovie is!

  12. bobhpine - Jun 16, 2013 at 12:31 AM

    Trash talk from Caps fans is even more laughable than the predictable nonsense emanating from the Philadelphia 75’ers chumps.

    I doubt facts even penetrate the thick skull of a moron such as redskins4life (ha, nice name), but you Caps fans do remember your squad has faced the Penguins 8 times in the playoffs and your record is a solid 1-7. I also assume you remember your team has never won a cup in its 40+ year history and really only came close once, being swept out of the SCF in 98.

    Maybe you take your cues from said Flyer fans. Hart trophies for Ovechkin may satisfy you the way those Flyer fans love their regular season wins and division titles. Most normal sports fans seem to think championships, see Stanley Cups, are what matters, but as we have seen from the 75’ers, when you don’t ever see your team win a cup, you end up with skewed priorities.

    Ovechkin and Crosby each missed a month. Crosby missed his because he broke his jaw. Ovechkin missed his because he’s lazy and put up crap numbers. No one in Pittsburgh, including Crosby really cares. Getting that cup back is what counts. But have it losers.

    • hockeydon10 - Jun 16, 2013 at 8:43 AM

      No one cares but you? That’s an awful lot of typing effort and angst for not caring.

    • Kristenaux - Jun 16, 2013 at 9:20 AM

      Really? Lazy? C’mon…for someone who ‘doesn’t care’ you could at least look at the big picture and stop making lame reasons why Sid missed getting this award. Ovie was also playing “handicapped”, having to learn a whole new position. In spite of that he still recorded 56 points and a league-best 32 goals in the lockout-shortened, 48-game regular season. Okay, maybe it wasn’t til the second half of the season that he truly found his stride, but there is a big reason for that. And he still scored 23 goals and had 36 points in the final 23 games. He was the main driver behind the Caps surge *from the worst team in the NHL to first place in the Southeast Division and a playoff berth*. Pretty valuable huh?

      And the slow start can be largely attributed not to laziness as you claim, but to the time Ovechkin needed to assimilate to the new angles, reads and routes he had as a right wing after spending his entire career on the left side. In the early stages of the season it wasn’t uncommon to see him drift back to the left, collide with a teammate as he crossed through center ice or misplay the puck as he learned his new options. With encouragement from Oates he stuck with the change and by the end of the year, Ovechkin was making better use of his linemates to create scoring opportunities and contributing to the play in all three zones.

      • fredzky - Jun 16, 2013 at 10:20 AM

        Are you kidding me Ovie has been lazy his whole career just doing his normal “cherry picking” on every shift. Don’t get me wrong the guy is one of the best natural goal scorers in the league today if not the best. When he does get a fire under his backside he loves to leave his skates to hit guys which is another trit of a crossing the line dirty player which to me is no MVP! Tavarus deserved the award this year and Crosby did not he is the best right now but the team is stacked and don’t need him to do good in the regular season anyway!

    • bmoreredfury311 - Jun 16, 2013 at 10:13 AM

      I’m sorry last i check you the hens won it what, 5 years ago, and the society that we live in is a “What are you going to do for me, tomorrow” type of mentality. So you can live in the past and write your blogs and act like your team doesn’t sh*t the bed and point out everyone else’s flaws. But your not any better, you actually worse.

      Yes, the Caps haven’t won a Cup and have been pretty much man handle in the playoffs, but you know what, i love hockey and there the team in my area. I will cheer for them win or lose.

    • laxman1944 - Jun 16, 2013 at 12:26 PM

      You really do enjoy being a complete jerkoff don’t you????

      Sad way to go through life

  13. taintedlombardis - Jun 16, 2013 at 12:51 AM

    Greatest player in the world.

    • buysamadrink - Jun 16, 2013 at 7:56 AM

      Ovechkin??? In which sport? Oh, you must mean best player in the world without a cup.

    • 19to77 - Jun 18, 2013 at 1:56 AM

      Somewhere, Gretzky and Lemieux are laughing hysterically over a beer.

  14. ironcity6pak - Jun 16, 2013 at 7:34 AM

    Well according to the player he did.

  15. arbruins - Jun 16, 2013 at 7:35 AM

    Nice to have an MVP trophy, even nicer to have the cup. Need to remember, it’s a team sport and…O’Brien is a tool!

  16. dropthepuckeh - Jun 16, 2013 at 10:15 AM

    Crosby should release a video of why he is so great…..

  17. orangeandblack31 - Jun 16, 2013 at 11:24 AM

    Cindy is a cry baby and the allstar Penguins got beat 4-0 by the B’s.
    They are soft and not a clutch team. If you hit them they crumble!

  18. watermelon1 - Jun 16, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    If you don’t like Ovechkin, fine. But you can’t say Crosby deserves it more than Ovechkin.

    You criticize Ovechkin for “disappearing” in the playoffs, but ummm… Where was Crosby?

    They’re both sitting at home. And if you ask the Rangers, I’m pretty sure they knew where ovechkin was at all times considering their entire defense was focused on him.

    Meanwhile, Crosby gets wide open looks and very seldomly even draws a double team because he has an actual team around him.

    I’d say Ovechkin has better goaltending behind him but you’d never know it because the Capitals best defenseman is Backstrom…. That’s right, a center.

    Caps are nothing without #8. The Pens would be okay without Crosby.

    Maybe Ovechkin doesn’t deserve MVP. But Crosby definitely doesn’t deserve it.

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