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Report: Subban wins Norris Trophy

Jun 10, 2013, 1:00 PM EDT

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P.K. Subban has captured his first-ever Norris Trophy as the NHL’s top defenseman, according to Sportsnet’s Nick Kypreos.

On Monday, Kypreos tweeted that “confirmed word out of Montreal” is Subban will be awarded the trophy during the Stanley Cup finals, which get underway this Wednesday at Chicago’s United Center.

Subban, 23, earned his first-ever Norris nomination this season by tying a career-high with 38 points in 42 games — the same number of points he registered two seasons ago over the course of 71 games.

One of the major reasons for his nomination was noted improvement to his defensive game. Subban went from a minus player his first year in the league to plus-12 this season, the highest total of his career.

His emergence as a bonafide No. 1 defenseman also spurred Montreal to a great turnaround season. The Habs finished dead last in the Eastern Conference last year but captured the No. 2 seed this season, winning the Northeast Division for the first time since 2008.

If Kypreo’s report holds accurate, Subban will be the first Habs defenseman to win the award since Chris Chelios, and will join Hockey Hall of Famers Larry Robinson, Jacques Laperriere, Tom Johnson and Doug Harvey as Montreal defensemen to win the award.

  1. rahavort - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:03 PM

    How ironic. Subban the guy who flaps his mouth but backs down whenever there’s a fight wins the Norris trophy..

    • madtolive5 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:51 PM

      he will fight marchand though…who is half his size

      • rahavort - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

        True, and still probably lose…

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 8:59 AM

        He won’t be able to fight Marchmallow. Marchmallow crawls to the bench after Subban flattens him, so no fight. Fact is, Subban is the best young defenseman in the league and this award furthe solidifies that fact, but go ahead and hate. Letang proved he should not have even been nominated by the abysmal showing he had in the playoffs; he was awful.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 8:59 AM

        He won’t be able to fight Marchmallow. Marchmallow crawls to the bench after Subban flattens him, so no fight. Fact is, Subban is the best young defenseman in the league and this award further solidifies that fact, but go ahead and hate. Letang proved he should not have even been nominated by the abysmal showing he had in the playoffs; he was awful.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:00 AM

        What up with the double post? Moderator must have wanted to add emphasis!

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM

      What the heck does his chirping and backing down have to do with his abilities and the Norris Trophy? Lame comment!

      • rahavort - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:17 PM

        The joke went over your head then, sorry buddy. Lame person! What abilities to be clear?

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:32 PM

        There was a joke there…. Hmm! Then! Yeah! Missed it! Now move on!

      • allcitystone - Jun 10, 2013 at 9:35 PM

        seriously? I understand if the dudes not a fighter, But to give it to a player who checks with his ass and takes dives every time someone checks him or tickles his ribs. there is seriously something very wrong with the whole voting! who voted for that s@#$? he dives more than Greg Louganis!

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 9:43 PM

        allcitystone, do you think the people who vote care about the fact that he dives? C’mon!

      • itsallniceonice - Jun 11, 2013 at 12:51 AM

        And sadly they don’t care about playing defense either!

    • kitshky - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      You don’t know what ironic means do you?

      • rahavort - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:47 PM

        Probably more than you do, are you really that blind you can’t draw a line between what I actually mean and the joke? I’ll type the punchline out for those can’t think right. Subban is known for backing out of fights, but would Chuck Norris do that? No. There you go, go back to eating your cheerios

      • davebabychreturns - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:35 PM

        “Would Chuck Norris do that?”

        This is either some next level sarcasm, or just… cringeworthy.

        Ladies and gentlemen, your Chuck Norris winning defenseman, PK Subban. Too bad his team wasn’t handy enough to win the Stanley (Hand Tools) Cup this year. Or was it that they lacked the investment prowess to win the (Morgan) Stanley Cup?

    • rje49 - Jun 15, 2013 at 4:12 PM

      Seems like the “best defenseman” award goes to the “best offensive defenseman” too often. Saying his defensive play improved doesn’t impress me and doesn’t mean much. So why don’t they simplify the award and just give it to the defenseman with the most goals or points???

  2. phillyphanatic77 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:08 PM

    Wow this really has become an offensive award.

    • freestyle1022 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:14 PM

      Can we please just make an Orr Trophy (for offense) to separate offense and defense-based awards?

      Guys who are good DEFENSEmen are getting overlooked way too much.

      • weaselpuppy - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:21 PM

        Lidstrom was the best of both ways on the ice….

      • kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:20 PM

        people underrate Orr’s defensive skills. the guy killed a penalty by himself!!

        There should be a Harvey award for offense dman and an Orr award for defense dman.

        Harvey is the first solid offensive dman ever in the NHL.

      • freestyle1022 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:08 PM

        Wasn’t disregarding Orr’s defensive skills, but lets be honest, we’re not giving Lindstrom (as good as he was) an award named after him a season after he retires, and we’re not getting rid of the Norris Trophy.

        So only makes sense to name a supplemental award after who is known to be the greatest defenseman to play the game, and notably known for his pure offensive power from the backend.

    • pastabelly - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM

      If there is a Selke for defensive forwards, there nees to be an award for defensive defensemen. They can call it the Larry Robinson award and give it to Chara on a regular basis.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:04 AM

        If you’re suggesting Chara, would the trophy come in the form of an orange pylon/traffic cone?

    • sanfranbruinsfan - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

      You are so right. I mean P.K. freakin Subban. Yagoddabekiddinme!
      P.K. is a great player and all but the Norris trophy??? Sheesh.

    • stratomaticfan - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:48 PM

      I find it offensive that the last 2 years, it’s given to a guy who is clearly not the best at playing defense. The name says best defenseman….not best scorer who’s position is defenseman.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:06 AM

        It’s pretty good defense to take the puck from the other team, probably by a bone crushing hip check, make a couple of nice passes, stickhandle by a few guys and then put the bisquet in the other teams basket. That’s Norris Trophy winning defense!!

    • hockeykrishna - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:07 PM

      Offensive as in scoring goals? Or offensive as to who just won it? Even in the original 12 this guy would have be on the AHL yo-yo tour with his lousy defensive skills. Even Habsman has to be appalled. The only good news is the CH will pay far too much for a D-man that is a liability come playoff time…..

      • phillyphanatic77 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:43 PM

        I did mean it as sort of a double entendre. PK is purely an offensive defenseman and is totally undeserving of the league’s top Defensive award. Hell Kris Letang plays more D than PK and he was a joke in his own zone in the playoffs. Not to mention, PK and the Habs defenders got owned by a Sens team devoid of offensive talent.

    • thesportsjudge - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:42 PM

      An “offensive” award. I see what you did there. Pretty, pretty, pretty sneaky.

      I like it.

  3. garyleee - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    Chara should of won. Subban is the flavor of the year. Guess I would rather win the Cup!!

    • jpelle82 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM

      chara wasnt even a finalist, he couldnt have won

      • pastabelly - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:34 PM

        Chara didn’t have a great season, but he should have won this award more often, based on his performance. He’s been a monster in the playoffs.

        Seidenberg is also a great defender and one of the main reasons the Bruins won a Cup and are back in the Finals.

      • davebabychreturns - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:41 PM

        Finalist = one of the top three in voting.

        Any defenseman “could” have won, Chara probably should have.

        He certainly should end up with the Conn Smythe if the B’s dismantle the Hawks like they did Pittsburgh.

      • pastabelly - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:46 PM

        Not sure if I got a thumbs down for proposing an award named after Larry Robinson or suggesting that Chara has been the top defensive defenseman in the league for quite some time. The shut down job done on the Sedins in 2011 Finals and Crosby in 2013 EC Finals should get you there.

        This one will go down as one of his best.

    • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:07 AM

      Chara sucks and is waaaaaaaaaaay to slow to be considered for an award, or haven’t you been watching everyone skate by him during the playoffs?

      • tdrusher225 - Jun 11, 2013 at 4:41 PM

        You’re a moron. Chara just held Malkin to 0 points, Rick Nash turned invisible, and Kessel was ineffective when he was on the ice, all while playing nearly 30 minutes a night. Not only has he been the playoffs best defenseman, he’s been the Bruins best player and well deserves the Conn Smythe. (Depending on what happens in this series)

  4. billyhauntswizards - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    What a joke.

    • tdrusher225 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:21 PM

      This a slap in the face of Ryan Suter and all defensemen who excel at both ends of the ice, rather than just being offense-first players. Karlsson winning last year was a joke, and this is almost as bad. Great player, but this award should be given to players who are excel in their own end first and foremost.

      • miketoasty - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:29 PM

        As a Pens fan I can agree that neither Subban nor Letang should have been in the running. Suter should have walked away as the clear cut winner at least from this group.

      • tdrusher225 - Jun 10, 2013 at 5:17 PM

        To see guys like this take home the Norris as the best “defenseman” in the NHL, who are exploited defensively on a daily basis, is a joke. I thought it was ridiculous when Weber was snubbed for Karlsson, who could barely stop any good players coming at him through the neutral zone. This is practically the same thing. The Norris trophy is being totally redefined and I hate it.

      • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:09 AM

        This year’s award winner will be back for more because he is an impact player at both ends of the ice.

      • tdrusher225 - Jun 11, 2013 at 4:28 PM

        Subban’s an “impact” player in his own zone? Yeah right. He’s maybe slightly above average at best. He impacts one end of the ice, just like last year’s winner.

      • tdrusher225 - Jun 11, 2013 at 4:34 PM

        Subban’s an impact player in his own zone? Yeah right. He’ slightly above average at best. He has an impact at one end of the ice, just like last year’s award winner

  5. loinstache - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:12 PM

    I’m not necessarily disagreeing with the decision, but I won’t pretend to understand it. It seems the NHL is currently built on shut-down defence, but these awards are seemingly granted to players who excel at offence while being “good” at defence. Sort of seems like the NHL doesn’t know what ideology it’s promoting.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:23 PM

      Well I’m guessing PK Subban got a little home town help with Montreal writers keeping other contenders low or off their ballot all together. Just like they did in 2002 when Jose Theodore won the Hart Trophy because the Montreal writer left Jarome Iginla off his ballot, despite the fact Iginla led the league in goals and points that year.

  6. bingram20 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:15 PM

    This is an embarassment to all who have ever won this award. This guy cheap shots and dives and when he is challenged he turtles. does not play the game with honor.

    • jernster21 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM

      Then you’ll be surprised to know that he wasn’t nominated for the Lady Byng!

    • greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:12 AM

      He won it because he is the most effective defenseman in the league this year. Letang proved he should not have even been nominated.

  7. davebabychreturns - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM

    Boy, imagine the colossal raise Subban is going to be in line for at the end of next season.

    It’s not like certain individuals were calling for the Canadiens to lock him up long term at a reasonable salary while they had the chance…

    *cough*

    • davebabychreturns - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:28 PM

      By the way the Canadiens had over $3m in free cap space this past year and right now have over $5m in space remaining next year with no key restricted free agents (Ryan White and Yannick Weber) left to re-sign.

      They could have easily afforded an extra couple million on the cap on Subban’s current deal – now instead they’re going to be paying him Markov money at the very least.

  8. joewilliesshnoz - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:20 PM

    The NHL Awards are a joke, a lot like their commissioner.

  9. pdmjr - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:23 PM

    First Black Player to win, congrats to him and his coach Michel Therrien for straightening his ass out

    • billyhauntswizards - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:26 PM

      “straightening him out”? Therrien is just as much a whiny baby as PK is. He’s still the same diving turtling and cheap shotting d0uch3 he was before. He just happened to score more points.

      • pdmjr - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:27 PM

        I jest cant you people take a joke?

      • bruinssuck - Jun 10, 2013 at 8:36 PM

        SUBBAN ROCK YOU !! ;)

    • kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

      why do you have to bring race into it??? who gives a shiite what colour the guy is? why not mention the first brown guy to do this or that? or the first guy with red hair? or the first guy with one eyebrow shaved? or the first guy under 5’9″ to win something? or whatever else people can think of. I hate it when people bring up race in the conversation where it doesn’t belong.

      Maybe you brought it up because you are compensating for your own racism?

      • ibieiniid - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:07 PM

        in a league where bananas are still chucked at black players, I think you can mention when one of the few black players breaks a barrier.

      • ibieiniid - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

        but i’ll clarify, i don’t agree with him winning it.

      • kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

        Where was a banana chucked at a player in the NHL??? never heard of it happening.

      • ibieiniid - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:15 PM

        it’s happened to Wanye Simmonds twice, I believe, in the last couple years. not sure if Subban’s dealt with any of that.

      • kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:24 PM

        That incident wasn’t during a regular season game at an NHL rink. It was a pre-season game in the backwater of Ontario in dump called London.

        I still don’t think its relevant to point out his race. I think its racial guilt that makes people do that at their own racism.

      • ibieiniid - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

        and I think you’re reaching for a way for your initial statement to be right. it’s not. lol doesn’t count because it wasn’t regular season. get a grip.

        if somebody wants to mention it, let them. the fact of the matter is that with so few black people in the league, and even less black defenders, the chances that a black defender would win the Norris is low as hell (that’s putting aside the idea of affirmative action awards, which I think is bullsh**). this is probably one of those instances that you coulda just shut your mouth.

      • ibieiniid - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:41 PM

        but I think the other time Simmonds dealt with racism was when he was playing overseas during the lockout, so yeah, I’ll agree that one doesn’t count towards my point.

        but for the record, i think the fans chanted “monkey” at him, if you feel the need to google it

  10. drewsylvania - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:30 PM

    Cynically, I wonder if this is the NHL’s version of affirmative action.

  11. thesportsjudge - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:31 PM

    Atrocious. The only word that comes to my mind if he does indeed win this, well, lets put quotes, “award.”

  12. crusty14 - Jun 10, 2013 at 1:39 PM

    I agree, I think it’s time to have 2 defenseman awards. I like the Orr trophy idea, it could be given to the guy who gets a lot of points (not necessarily the most points), combined with some kind of defensive accountability , and the Norris for a shut down type of dman.

    • kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:09 PM

      Bobby Orr was great on both sides of the rink. The guy was a machine if you read up on him. people usually only give him credit for his offensive production and not his defensive game (the guy killed a penalty by himself).

      There should be two awards and they should be named after Doug Harvey (offense minded) and Bobby Orr (defense minded).

  13. hockeykrishna - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:08 PM

    I just threw up in my mouth. A major award for playing the game the WRONG way. Larry Robinson wants an explanation…..

  14. kaptaanamerica - Jun 10, 2013 at 2:16 PM

    Personally, I think Markov should have been nominated and won. Of the nominees, I would suggest Suter was better, but Subban benefits from playing in the East.

  15. chanceoffleury1 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:00 PM

    Dear Erik Karlsson, everything bad I ever said about you winning this award, I take it all back. Love, chanceoffleury

    If Getzlaf ever wanted to say “told ya so” and not get any sh!t for it, right about now would be the perfect time. Suter should have won this one, no doubt. And that’s coming from a Pens fan who had a dog in the fight.

    • hockeykrishna - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:04 PM

      For a “most valuable defenseman” would rather have had Chara or Letang in the last series???

  16. thecrabcakestate - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:01 PM

    So…after who has won the Norris trophy the last two years…how did mike green never win it when he was putting up better numbers than both these guys. Don’t get me wrong his defense used to be sub par. But really? The whole defense first argument just went out the window

  17. buddysguys - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:02 PM

    Karlsson had this wrapped up by week 3 of the season until the “incident” dude would have finished with ridiculous numbers

  18. valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:29 PM

    The Norris Trophy is awarded to the top d man who demonstrates throughout the season the greatest all-round ability in the position.

    2012-2013 Stats
    Pens
    Goals for=165, Goals against=119, Diff=+46, Letang +16 G=5 A=33

    Habs
    Goals for=149, Goals against=126, Diff=+23, PK +12 G=11 A=27

    Wild
    Goals for=122, Goals against= 127, Diff=-5, Sutter +2 G=4 A=28

    Now tell me how you can’t make a case for PK?

    • thesportsjudge - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:42 PM

      Making a case for versus winning the award are two totally different things. Of course he should be mentioned as a candidate.

    • thesportsjudge - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:43 PM

      Also, you are making it look like all three of these defenseman were on the ice for EVERY goal scored (save for the +/- ratings.)

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 5:02 PM

        All I did was provide the stats, and left the interpretation to the individual. To be honest I haven’t seen Suter play this year, which is why I can’t give an educated opinion. I’ve seen a lot of ECF games. Letang plays for a team that has a high powered offense, so his +/- is not that surprising. The Habs were transformed when PK returned to the lineup. His d play was solid in the d zone, and his ability to transition from d to o was very effective.

    • brianmckendry15 - Jun 10, 2013 at 6:22 PM

      You act like the Hawks Keith shouldn’t be mentioned. He has been doing these #’s for years.

      Goals For= 155, Goals against= 102, Diff= +53, Keith +16 G=3 A=24 Leads Defensemen in Mins. played and Shifts per game.

      I think Suttter should have won the award because he means more to the Wild than the other three meant to there team. Put Sutter on any of the other three teams and he would be a perennial all-star

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - Jun 10, 2013 at 6:59 PM

        Kieth wasn’t mentioned because he’s not one of the nominees. I’m not saying he should not have been one, but he didn’t get the votes needed by the Professional Hockey Writers Association.

  19. girouxed - Jun 10, 2013 at 3:54 PM

    Who cares. I wouldn’t care if a flyer won it, means little.

  20. c1md6 - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

    How was Kris letang or as Pierre McGuire says “kristopher” letang even in the discussion for the Norris? They might as well call it the offensive defenseman award.

    • miketoasty - Jun 10, 2013 at 4:33 PM

      Same reason Subban was in the discussion. The two players are near identical in play style and ability. How did Karlsson win it last season? Come on man if you’re going to bash the Pens at least make it good.

  21. hockeyflow33 - Jun 10, 2013 at 5:29 PM

    After last year and this year, the Norris trophy has nothing to do with defense

  22. rebekah319 - Jun 10, 2013 at 7:09 PM

    These results or should I say report should not even be leaked! To be honest I did not watch one single Eastern Conference Game at all (I usually only catch them during the post season) so I can not form a opinion on Subban or Letang. What I can say being a Wild Fan that I am just happy Suter got the nomination so props to whoever it ends up going to for real!

  23. bdnnbd - Jun 10, 2013 at 9:21 PM

    Suter = robbed.

  24. allcitystone - Jun 10, 2013 at 9:34 PM

    seriously? I understand if the dudes not a fighter, But to give it to a player who checks with his ass and takes dives every time someone checks him or tickles his ribs. there is seriously something very wrong with the whole voting! who voted for that s@#$?

  25. wildfanfromwi - Jun 11, 2013 at 1:49 AM

    Booooo! Keep in mind, this is just speculation right now, so who knows if this is even correct information. I’ve heard that this report of Subban supposedly being the winner of the Norris trophy came from the same person that said Suter would sign a contract with the Red Wings last year in July. And what happened? The Wild signed him! I sure hope to God these “leaks” are wrong. Out of all the players who were nominated as finalists for the Norris, I think there is no other player more deserving of it than Suter. Being a Wild fan, I watched him get accustomed to his move from Nashville to Minnesota, and while he had a slow start with us, he played his heart out during the middle and last half of the season.

  26. profsudz - Jun 11, 2013 at 1:54 AM

    Voting for these awards should be limited to writers who actually follow the whole league. I have heard numerous people who are actually involved who have stated that most of the people who vote only look at stats, due to the fact that they only follow one (east coast) team.

    Personally, if I didn’t know what I was talking about, as apparently the majority of hockey writers don’t, I would abstain from making myself look like an ass. Unless I was also spineless like the majority of hockey writers, and refused to make my votes public

  27. greenmtnboy31 - Jun 11, 2013 at 9:17 AM

    The BEST defenseman in the league. BEST skating, BEST puckhandling, BEST passing defenseman in the league and ALL you haters would love him if he were on your teams.

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