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Schneider thinks most goalies fine with ‘trimming’ pads

Jun 7, 2013, 9:51 AM EDT

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As scoring declines in the NHL, the possibility of shrinking goalie pads has been brought up consistently.

“It’s kind of a running joke that everyone thinks goalies are too good because their gear is too big,” Vancouver Canucks goaltender Cory Schneider told the Vancouver Province. He was on the competition committee that proposed significant goalie pad downsizing.

One of the common arguments against the change is that it might adversely affect the safety of NHL goaltenders. Still, Schneider thinks this is something netminders can live with.

“Trimming down a few areas, I think most guys would be OK with that,” Schneider said. “It’s when you start going in areas where goalies can get hurt, that’s where guys will have a problem.”

The other question is if this will successfully increase scoring.

Schneider thinks it has the potential to throw goaltenders off because the change might betray their muscle memory, but at the same time he doesn’t see bigger goaltending pads as universally better.

“I find sometimes that the bigger pads get in the way,” Schneider said. “I can’t get down there quickly and they’re sort of hitting and clipping each other. Some guys prefer shorter pads (Jonathan Quick) and you can look at it both ways.”

He has friends in that school of thinking.

“The last time when we made those changes it ended up making goalies quicker,” Toronto Maple Leafs goaltender Ben Scrivens said, according to the Toronto Star. “It made dropping to your knees even more economical.

“It made the gear even more streamlined. It fit to the bodies even better. You became more athletic and more flexible.”

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  1. boltsfan777 - Jun 7, 2013 at 11:44 AM

    Aside from however the pad issue turns out, let’s stop trying to create more goals, and stop moving this thing in the direction of arena football, where the last team to score wins. Defense is exciting, too. Every goal is a big deal because it’s really hard to score! IMO, a low scoring hockey game is the most exciting and tension filled game you can watch. Why devalue goals?

    • comeonnowguys - Jun 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

      Defense is exciting. A five-man turtle in front of the goaltender is not.

    • goodolejr - Jun 7, 2013 at 3:01 PM

      This. A game that ends 1-0, 2-1, etc. is most of the time (of course there are exceptions) they are the most exciting games to watch. Play going up and down the ice, goalies making crazy saves. I’d rather see this than a game that ends 9-8.

  2. hjworton46 - Jun 7, 2013 at 11:49 AM

    Make the puck and goal larger. Leave pads alone.

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 7, 2013 at 12:01 PM

      Where do people like you come from?

      • lostpuppysyndrome - Jun 7, 2013 at 12:49 PM

        Zing. I legitimately lol’d there.

      • kingcobraman - Jun 7, 2013 at 1:26 PM

        they come from Texas ,

  3. tripps3 - Jun 7, 2013 at 11:51 AM

    Or…… Just leave things as they are as NHL is growing even despite the lock out

    • elvispocomo - Jun 7, 2013 at 2:23 PM

      But goals are decreasing. Unless the NHL plans on having a large influx of soccer fans start watching hockey once all the games a 1-0 results, there’s a real reason to discuss goalie equipment and the decreasing goals per game.

  4. richc111 - Jun 7, 2013 at 11:56 AM

    This is a long time coming. I mean just look at a goalie from 20 years ago and now. Now goalies main job is to play a position and cut down angles. In the past you had to be able to anticipate and react but not any more. Google Bernie Parent and find a picture of him. To goal looks like a soccer net. I really don’t understand the people who think things are fine now. Why because they allowed the goalie equipment to get bigger without holding a press conference. Anyone remember when Garth Snow got busted because it had gear that sat on top of his should, simply to take up more room. Shrink it down NOW!

    • hockeyflow33 - Jun 7, 2013 at 12:05 PM

      I’m always amazed when people pretend to know the sport and come off so ignorant. Reactionary saves are practiced so often and from an early age now that muscle memory makes them look easy. Watch any sort of goaltending training and you’ll find crease movements that work on proper form slides for 2nd and 3rd effort movements.

    • goodolejr - Jun 7, 2013 at 1:23 PM

      Yep, and that equipment was the reason Garth Snow was one of the top 5 goalies in the league for YEARS. Oh wait…

      If you can honestly watch a single NHL game and say that goalies don’t constantly rely on quick reaction for saves then I can only come to the conclusion that you’re blind and not actually watching anything at all. In that case, kudos for being able to comment on an online article.

      • elvispocomo - Jun 7, 2013 at 2:28 PM

        There is a valid point that a lot of shots now are stopped in the body or pads of goalies who are able to get set positionally and all the goalie may have to do is drop to the butterfly to cover the bottom of the net. There’s no debate about goalies being bigger than ever (I mean, Darren Pang compared to Ben Bishop, 5’5″ vs 6’7″) and adding larger but lighter equipment makes it tougher and tougher to score on the same sized nets.

      • goodolejr - Jun 7, 2013 at 3:05 PM

        If that’s the case, why are there large goalies with average to below average SV% and GAA? Shouldn’t they all be the best at their position?

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