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Poll: Should Pens start Fleury or Vokoun in Game 3?

Jun 3, 2013, 10:51 PM EDT

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It’s easy to say what you would do if you were in a head coach’s shoes. It’s also pretty fun because you aren’t likely to lose your job if you’re wrong.

Ultimately, it’s Pittsburgh Penguins head coach Dan Bylsma’s job to determine a Game 3 starter after Tomas Vokoun and Marc-Andre Fleury combined for a disastrous Game 2 against the Boston Bruins on Monday. We’ll see if he tips his hand tonight, but either way, let’s find out what the people think.

Decide if you’re on Team Fleury or Team Vokoun in the poll below. (Sorry, we’re going to leave out other netminders in the Penguins system to keep it simple.)

Update: As expected, Bylsma didn’t give an obvious answer about which way he’s leaning

“I don’t think there was a lot of fault in those three goals by the goaltender,” Bylsma said. “So it’s tough to evaluate given the breakdowns and the type of scoring chances that they scored on for both goalies.”

  1. sabatimus - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    They should platoon between periods.

  2. eaglesbest - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Who cares both suck just like the rest of the penguins team. Go Bruins!!!

  3. icelovinbrotha215 - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:54 PM

    It was obvious as once as the Flower came in that he would stay unless elimination/injury would occur.

    • jpelle82 - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:00 AM

      well considering the series is basically over now, they might as well leave fleury in there and see if he can prove he is worth keeping around for the future.

      • sabatimus - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:29 PM

        A series is NEVER over 2 games in. I fully expect the Pens to come back and come back hard. As a Bruins fan, that’s what I’m worried about, regardless of who they have in goal.

  4. blackhawksdynasty - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    To answer the headline question…With the way the rest of the Penguins are playing, does it really matter?

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:22 AM

      Actually, with the W-B/S Penguins done, I’d be looking at maybe Brad Thiessen. If the guy can, you know, stop pucks shot at him, why not. So then all the Pens would need to do is tighten up their defense and start getting some serious shots on the Bruins net, and this series would see a huge momentum shift. Hey, they’re only 4 wins from taking it!

      • hazlydose - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:09 PM

        No!!!!! Did you watch Theissen last year? Imagine the confidence and goaltending fundamentals of Fleury without the athleticism.

  5. ryanw822 - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    I hear Tebow is looking for a team to play for…

  6. Stiller43 - Jun 3, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    If they lost only 4-1 after coming in for voky, i’d say fleury. But allowing 3 goals in relief isnt that impressive…

  7. poonerman - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    can you sit a forward and play two goalies? might be their only chance.

  8. amityvillefun - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Khudobin is just sitting there look bored anyway, Pens can borrow him for a game or two. Let’s be sporting and make a series of it.

    On second thought, I don’t want Khudobin wearing that watered down rip off of a jersey. Sorry I even suggested it. Apologies Anton.

  9. amityvillefun - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:01 PM


  10. atwatercrushesokoye - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    What’s behind door number 3? Can they get Tom Barrasso to come of retirement?

  11. cspuck7 - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:08 PM

    Ken Wregget, Game 3 starter

  12. ironman721 - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    Doesn’t matter. Bruins came to play. Pens expected to win. Bruins play to win. This is the worst thing I have ever experienced watching sports. This will take a long time to get over. It makes me sick to see them play this bad.

  13. sjsharks66 - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:11 PM

    I would go with flower. Get him pumped for the start. Not stressed for a win. The guys in front of him need to step it up. Crosby needs to put on his guard again. Messed up his mojo by taking it off.

  14. jaybaileys - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    I think Fleury has played his last game as a Penguin. He has no confidence and that first goal totally sucked the life out of them. It’s a shame, but he just can’t be trusted. You can’t pay 5 million for a backup. I smell a buyout.

    • chanceoffleury1 - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:32 AM

      No way he gets bought out. Shero is arguably the best GM when it comes to the trade table, and Fleury isn’t a total dud. His resume includes a playoff leading S% in 2008 and a Cup win in 2009. Shero could at least get SOMETHING for him. His contract isn’t terrible. He has 2 years left with a $5 million cap hit. For a team with some cap space and a need for a goalie he definitely wouldn’t be the biggest gamble to take. The change of scenery and being placed in a more defensive system could lead to Fleury returning to some degree of old form. I’d be willing to bet somebody would take the gamble on him. I think it’d be a bigger gamble for the Pens to trade him when they don’t have a reliable replacement ready.

  15. jason9696 - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    I’d definitely go with Vokoun. The first and last goals Fluery gave up tonight were horrible.

    • miketoasty - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      The first goal was the same goal Rask gave up at the other end (should we bench him too?), and the third goal was a rocket of a shot from the point with no one even close to the guy to apply pressure, it was also at the end of the game when it looked like the entire Pens team was taking a nap. No way you can really blame any of those three goals on Fleury.

  16. sheckyrimshot - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Ron Tugnutt

  17. broadstreetbeatdown - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:17 PM

    Ha Ha Ha, Beach Ball Fleury or Volley Ball Vokoun? Decisions, decisions.

    • miketoasty - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:04 AM

      I would rather choose between those two over Bryzgalov or Mason. At least Fleury got us a cup.

      • broadstreetbeatdown - Jun 4, 2013 at 8:20 PM

        Yeah Bryz won a cup too. Thanks for playing.

  18. amityvillefun - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Put Crosby in net. He’s awesome at everything. Just ask him.

    • gallyhatch - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:20 AM

      He’s awesome at everything except being a captain. He struggles something fierce when his team is struggling.

  19. stakex - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    To be honest, I’m not sure it really matters who the Pens put in net. The only time either goalie has looked good in the playoffs is when the Pens played well in front of them. Unless the Pens play does a 180 in the next game… the goalie in net will be the least of their problems.

    Though I guess I would go with Vokoun if I absolutely had to pick. Fleury didn’t look any better during what was pretty much his second chance to be the starter, and Vokoun hasn’t given up any simply awful goals like Fleury has.

  20. titansbro - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Just pull both goalies from the opening face off. What’s the diff anyway? Maybe that extra skater could generate some offense at least.

  21. alswingman - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:30 PM

    Bring back Brent Johnson and see how that works out.

  22. bigdaddy44 - Jun 3, 2013 at 11:54 PM

    Maybe the Bruins could loan them George Plimpton!

    • nothanksimdriving123 - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:16 AM

      Had he not died a decade ago, he might be worth considering, though he’d now be 86.

      • jcmeyer10 - Jun 4, 2013 at 8:16 AM

        And your point is? 😀

  23. btlpper68 - Jun 4, 2013 at 12:00 AM

    Vokoun should start he gets sniped on a breakaway ,2 goal
    D men are asleep and 3 goal is back door one timer and here comes fleury to the rescue getting beat way out glove side by Marchand and boychuck has all day to hammer it past fleury

    • titansrbeast - Jun 4, 2013 at 12:36 AM


  24. pizzano7416 - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:25 AM

    This series just sucks… Watching the Pens get out played this bad after the season they had is just suicidal. This series is a tale of 2 very good teams that both peaked at one point in the season. Just that the Bruins peaked and are playing there best hockey when it matters most.

    Pens need to do something about there goalie situation before the start of next season. They have Vokoun signed for another season and that’s all well and good as long as he’s the backup. MAF needs to be traded or bought out. There is just to much talent on this roster and they can’t go into next season with a horrible situation in the net. There are a lot of good net minders who could be had this off season. I trust Mario and Shero will know that this needs to be fixed and be super aggressive in fixing it.

  25. pennerismyhomeboy - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:33 AM

    Doesn’t matter who’s in net when no other Pitt players show up.

  26. trinityeagle - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:37 AM

    I bet Pierre wishes it could be him.

  27. bobhpine - Jun 4, 2013 at 2:03 AM

    Fleury managed to break his team’s back within a few minutes of going back into the game for the first time since game 4 of the isles series. That fourth goal, scored with 8 seconds left in the period, right after the Pens finally scored to make it 3-1 as the crowd and team seemed to be getting into it, was an absolute heartbreaker.

    This is not new. In fact, since the cup win in 2009, the ill timed soul crushing goal has been his calling card. Fleury is a great guy. He seems like a supportive teammate, so well liked, but he needs to go. The change of scenery will likely be good for both sides, but this team plays like it is holding a grenade when Fleury is in net, and so does Fleury.

    That said, I’d give him the rest of this series to prove me wrong. See if Flower can find that level a number one overall pick should have. Vokoun is 36, about to be 37. The pens need to see if Fleury can redeem himself, and his team.

    Could be a great story, but I feel like I know how this will end.

    • alswingman - Jun 4, 2013 at 2:50 AM

      what happened to him? He seemed reliable for a good stretch. Didn’t he get a big contract? He was supposed to the guy.

  28. aldog83 - Jun 4, 2013 at 3:06 AM

    Frank Pieterangelo!

    Brought Stanley Cup to Pittsburgh in 90-91

    and has .800 playoff winning percentage for pens!

    pens need to win 4 of 5 so that works out perfect!


  29. thewaytonever - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:00 AM

    Vokoun. plain and simple Marc-Andre let’s in too many softies

  30. kitshky - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:03 AM

    I realize the Pen’s don’t look like they’ve got a comeback in them … but last time I checked no body’s won a playoff series after two games in a long time.

    If I was forced to put money down I’d probably put it on the Bruins (unless I was getting some killer odds of course) but I would just respectfully advise the Bruins fans to lay off the crowing and trash talking till Boston at the very least has a stranglehold on this series…

    • gallyhatch - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:30 AM

      I would respectfully advise you to go read the comment sections from last week if you want to see a team’s fanbase crowing and talking trash without having won a series yet.

      Guess what? It wasn’t the Bruins fans running their mouths & beating their chests. The Penguins fans made Vancouver & Montreal fans seem grounded with the amount of $hit they were talking.

      All of a sudden, with Pitt down 2-0, those trolls are notoriously absent from the message boards.

      I know this series is far from over and there’s a lot of hockey left to be played, but. . . . . .karma’s a b!tch isn’t it?

      • kitshky - Jun 4, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        …. aannd your point is what exactly?

        The fact that there are a bunch of tween Penguins fans that post nonsense here regularly means that Bruins fans should crow about a series being over after two games?

        (And please spare us the sanctimonious BS that Bruins fans aren’t just as annoying as any other group of fans on this site.)

      • gallyhatch - Jun 4, 2013 at 5:54 PM

        I would love to break it down for you further since you struggled to understand what I was getting at.

        It’s downright hysterical that a Penguins fan would come on here and recommend Bruins fans practice a little humility now that they are up 2-0. I didn’t hear too many Pitt fans singing that tune last week when they thought they were going to steamroll the Bruins in this series.

        This series is far from over, but I think it’s okay for B’s fans to enjoy the thorough @$$-kickings that the B’s have laid upon the Penguins over the last two games ESPECIALLY in light of how little of a chance so many people gave Boston going into this series. There’s still a lot of hockey left to be played, but so far this series has gone perfectly.

        While we are on the subject, you should probably stick to smaller words, you clearly don’t understand the meaning of “sanctimonius” based on your original post. (I’ll let you figure that one out for yourself, brainiac)

        Please keep posting, you’re proving my point about hypocritical Pittsburgh fans.

  31. chanceoffleury1 - Jun 4, 2013 at 4:36 AM

    As my username insinuates, Fleury is my guy. I think he’s got an awesome personality and fans in Pittsburgh have always loved him. But it’s just becoming more and more difficult to justify giving him an elite-level salary and the starting nod. Sometimes you have to take 2 steps back to move 5 steps forward and IF the Pens get knocked out I think that may be where this team is headed this summer. Reforms on the blueline and in net would be a good starting point. Don’t even get me started on Niskanen. He has been so defensively incompetent this entire playoffs that it gives me a headache. He doesn’t have the Letang-esqe offensive numbers to cover up his defensive lapses either (because Letang’s “defense” is a whole other bridge that needs to be crossed if they’d care to even try and make this a series). Niskanen has just been bad the entire playoffs though. The Pens are essentially playing with 2 semi competent d-men right now, and then another one who is supposedly a defenseman and occasionally shows up but recently has just taken on the role of 4th forward.

    I mean, with what the Pens put out there tonight it didn’t matter who was in net. With that kind of team defense Lundqvist or Bobrovsky or Rask or whomever was going to get lit up. The past two games were eerily similar to games 3 and 4 of the Islanders series. The difference is Rask is not Nabokov and the Bruins make them pay for their mistakes. The Pens can’t just pull 5 goals out of their ass to beat the Bruins like they could with the Islanders. They actually have to grind them down until they force a defensive lapse of the Bruins and then execute to actually cash in on it. Stop playing as Sidney Crosby, Evgeni Malkin, Kris Letang, Jarome Iginla, and James Neal; and start playing as the Pittsburgh Penguins.

  32. titansbro - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    The Bs can trade you Khudobin or Subban for Malkin & you guys can just keep saying, “Shero strikes again!”

  33. titansbro - Jun 4, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    On 2nd thought, nah we’re good. Sucks when people renege on a deal huh?

  34. REDSKINSFORLIFE - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:10 AM

    Has pulling the goalie from the opening face off ever been done? This seems to be the only way Pitt may be able to generate some offense. Go Bruins.

  35. REDSKINSFORLIFE - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    What was it that Vokoun said to Fleury? “Let as many goals in as I did, that way Cindy can do some more whining.”

  36. thebigtim2012 - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    I hear Timmy Thomas is looking to come back maybe they could swing a trade

  37. equator180 - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    A short time ago, like one day before the trade deadline passed, the Pens should have done what had to be done, to get Lou from Vancouver. It is so very clear that this team is a top notch act but the hole between the pipes is huge, neither of these guys are up to team standards and Lou would have put them in the finals…

  38. jacketsfan7 - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    I’d say fleury , he faced more shots and let in the same amount , I’d say kick out jokinen and put TK back in the lineup , kick out Adams for tanner glass

    • jpelle82 - Jun 4, 2013 at 11:43 AM

      “joke” inen out, tk in. vitale out – bennett in. engelland out despres in? i didnt like niskanen’s game last night but bylsma will never bench him.

  39. tlndma - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:18 AM

    Maybe put Iginla in goal. He was the guy that sealed the deal for Pitt, as far as the Cup, right?

    Doesn’t matter who’s in goal, if Penguins keep playing pond hockey.

  40. 87whines - Jun 4, 2013 at 7:31 AM

    Me’s thinks that if I’s had a flower’s in goal I would have traded for a Luongo’s or goalies instead of more forwards.

    Shero struck fools gold’s.

    Starts some flower’s ands see’s if he’s salvages he’s burgh’s career’s

    • govtminion - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:25 AM

      Yeah… if I’m looking for a way to beat the Boston Bruins in a seven game series, I’m thinking Roberto Luongo isn’t the guy I look to do it. 😉

  41. ewoods6 - Jun 4, 2013 at 8:24 AM


  42. jjg2640 - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:30 AM

    Honestly it doesnt matter who they start for their goalie. We have seen the Bruins score on both Fleury and Vokoun. If the Penguins hope to come back in this series they need to improve on their defense. They rely to much on their offensive power, but when you go against a team that has really great defensive players you are going to have a tough time scoring. In order to win against a great defensive team like the Bruins, then you need a good defensive team to set up your offensive. You cannot just rely on one factor. It’s like the Patriots they have an amazing QB Tom Brady, yet they haven’t won any super bowls recently and that’s because of their defense. The Boston Bruins can score on you with their offense, because of how well their defense is. I will say it once more if the Penguins have any hope to get back in their series, is to improve their defense not their offense.

  43. jaybaileys - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:31 AM

    Luongo? you guys are so funny.

  44. northstarnic - Jun 4, 2013 at 9:39 AM

    Lose lose. What a mess.

  45. mattrmitch - Jun 4, 2013 at 10:44 AM

    Sebastian Caron. He had that one good save Crosby’s rookie year. That’s one more quality save than I’ve seen the other two make of late. Simple math, boom. Hire me, Ray.

  46. capsrockva - Jun 4, 2013 at 11:10 AM

    it really doesn’t matter who starts. Both would end up being chased from the goal

  47. bkphillips2013 - Jun 4, 2013 at 2:50 PM

    I think they could probably put both goalies in net at the same time and it won’t make a difference the way the Bruins are playing!

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