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Torres: I still feel like Stoll hit was clean

May 30, 2013, 8:45 PM EDT


The San Jose Sharks emptied their lockers on Thursday and spoke with media the final time this season.

For one Shark, it was time to reiterate what he’s thought all along.

“I still feel like it was a clean hit,” Raffi Torres said of his check on Jarret Stoll, one that knocked both players out of the Western Conference semifinals. “I didn’t do anything that I don’t think I’ll do again.

“Obviously, it’s tough when he’s kind of in a vulnerable position, but I feel like I did my best to stay within the guidelines.”

Torres told David Pollak of the San Jose Mercury News he and Stoll talked face-to-face about the hit, and that Stoll said he didn’t see it as a dirty play.

That revelation comes just a few days after Stoll told the L.A. Times the hit “was a hockey play.”

The incident occurred in Game 1, and Torres was suspended for the duration of the series — meaning his suspension was a six-gamer.

He’s already said he’s not going to appeal the decision (under the terms of the new CBA, suspensions six games or longer can be appealed to a neutral arbitrator) and was grateful that San Jose stood up for him (GM Doug Wilson incurred a $100k fine for slamming the decision).

“It’s not going to be hard to make a decision to stay here,” Torres said. “They know I want to.”

  1. pennerismyhomeboy - May 30, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    “I didn’t do anything that I don’t think I’ll do again.” Sounds like another suspension is in his future.

    • titansrbeast - May 30, 2013 at 9:12 PM

      Another suspension for a clean shoulder to shoulder because he has a history of suspensions…oh yeah, sounds about right.

      • jernster21 - May 30, 2013 at 10:33 PM

        You have it all figured out; Stoll totally got a concussion through the hit to his shoulder.

      • ron05342 - May 30, 2013 at 10:43 PM

        Didn’t know a shoulder could sustain a concussion; thanks doctor for the education snippet.

        Dabnammit, you learn something new every day! :)

    • raiderblack1 - May 31, 2013 at 12:47 PM

      Clean hit to the shoulder that happen to drive through Stolls head because he made himself vulnerable by leaning forward sticking his head out the way he did… Torres hit the shoulder first therefore the shoulder was targeted. Hockey hit… Even Stoll recognized that. He has a brain… a sore brain. Plus its kharma for his hit on Ian White a few years back that was truly a dirty play

  2. sjsharks66 - May 30, 2013 at 9:26 PM

    When the guy who was injured from the hit tells you face to face that it was clean, you know there is a problem.
    The nhl disciplinary system is a joke. There have been many questionable hits and plays yet Torres and Gryba are the only ones suspended… BOTH of which were clean hits.

    hopefully the LA fans can stop complaining.

    • Habib Marwan - May 30, 2013 at 9:32 PM

      sjsharks66, go watch the golf channel you loser

    • pirovash88 - May 30, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      Quit living in the past dude. Kings fans aren’t complaining about anything, while sharks fans are still living discussing this bs topic kings are concentrating on what’s important.. The western conference finals.

    • jernster21 - May 30, 2013 at 10:37 PM

      You could have a second career in the media and twist words just like the rest of them. He never said it was a clean hit, he said it was a hockey play. Plays like that happen in hockey, and people in hockey get suspended for plays like that.

  3. blackhawksdynasty - May 30, 2013 at 9:30 PM

    There are dirty players in this league who are capable of turning their individual game around. They’re talented enough to compete without the cheap shots and illegal hits. I actually think Raffi Torres is a good hockey player. I just don’t think he’s smart enough to change.

    • elvispocomo - May 31, 2013 at 11:26 AM

      At this point it’s such a fine line for him that he has to go further to change his game to remove any chances of suspensions.

      It’s not a paradox on this play that it can be both a hockey play and a hit that’s suspension worthy since there was contact to the head. If Torres – who recognized Stoll was in a vulnerable position – does just a little more to make sure this doesn’t end badly like it did then he wouldn’t be in the spot he’s in.

  4. kicksave1980 - May 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

    I’ve never liked Torres, and I do think that he’s overall a dirty player. But, in my opinion, that was a clean hit and didn’t deserve a suspension. I’m not a Sharks fan, but it’s obvious that his suspension ruined the Sharks depth lines for the rest of that series.

    • ron05342 - May 30, 2013 at 10:45 PM

      Just like losing Stoll ruined the the Kings’ ability to get a higher face-off percentage and having an effective PK.

      It goes both ways, fella.

      • kicksave1980 - May 31, 2013 at 1:27 AM

        Oh for sure. I’m not saying that losing Stoll didn’t hurt the Kings. Of course it did! Like I said, I’m not a Sharks fan, and I’m not making excuses for them. Just making an (incomplete) observation.

  5. skyfire7 - May 30, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    Man, you Sharks fans are almost as big of whiners as the Coyotes fans. Torres was charged with a penalty on this play. Saying he didn’t mean to do something means nothing in hockey. How many players can just say “I didn’t mean to “high stick” someone and therefore he doesn’t have to go to the penalty box for 2 minutes, 4 minutes if he drew blood. Torres caused a concussion with his hit. He got suspended for the remaining of the games with the Kings. Get over it.

  6. sjsharks66 - May 30, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Well when Stoll said “it was not a dirty hit” would that not make it a clean/legal hit? Im not twisting anything around. It say’s it in the article above.
    When i said stop complaining, that came out wrong. I meant they can see it as what it really was. A clean hit that made shoulder contact and head contact. Which is legal.

    Oh well. Enjoy the hawks and enjoy meeting the East if you make it past the Hawks. Boston and Pittsburgh will give you guys a run for your money.

    • blomfeld - May 31, 2013 at 12:39 AM

      ‘Stand Down’ from your troubles friend …

      Sjsharksfan66 – the bottom line is that Torres’ hit was clean and unfortunately Stoll got injured as a result, nothing more and nothing less … stuff happens in life all the time and so we simply accept, adapt and move on … you guys are one helluva of a team and beating you Sharks has left me with mixed emotions … for whatever reason, I’ll always remember one of your first ever games back in the fall of 1991, when you guys were here in Vancouver … your team was brand new then and you had this guy called Pat Faloon … I was sitting in my ‘executive’ seats rink-side with a client and I commented to him .. “you know, this Sharks team is cool and I think they’re gonna be a contender one day” … true story friend … :)

      *** special video selection for Sjsharksfan66 and best wishes to them in going forward ***

      • badintent - May 31, 2013 at 2:19 AM

        Thanks my friend. All quiet here on the Western front now that the Canucks have gone to the golf courses………… San Diego.Sun. sun where are tho ??? More rain on the weekend………………. Sell the water to Cali, and get rid of all the green taxes.

  7. scionofflame - May 31, 2013 at 5:24 AM

    I don’t think Torres had the intent to give Stoll a lengthy injury either, when I look at the video of the play. But the problem guys like Torres and Cooke will -always- face is that track record. When it’s a borderline hit and people are leaning both ways (legal or illegal hit), they’re always going to look to that record first and say “Yeah, you probably meant to do that.”

    It’s a rough situation, but hopefully he can manage to end his streak of one or more suspensions a season. Torres isn’t a bad skill player, and he can help a team like the Sharks if he can stay on the ice long enough to make a difference. Up to him to make the change though.

  8. ilikejay - May 31, 2013 at 11:11 AM

    I hate Torres. Clean or not, he’s vicious and a bum. And targets key players.

  9. hrudey - May 31, 2013 at 2:03 PM

    I don’t think (and please remember, I’m a Kings fan) that Torres was trying to make a dirty hit. And if intent was all that mattered, that would have been the end of it. But the fact is that he did hit Stoll in the head – and while he brushed by him on the shoulder first, the main force of the hit was to Stoll’s head. The rule about checking to the head doesn’t take intent into consideration, nor does tagging a guy’s shoulder give free reign to follow up and hit the head. He came from far enough away to draw a charging minor, which was an appropriate call, so he had more than enough time to ensure he didn’t hit Stoll’s head. The responsibility is on the person delivering the hit to ensure that it doesn’t target the head, and Torres failed in that. There’s a lot of hyperbole thrown around and I think it’s fair to say at this point it wasn’t a “dirty” hit, nor was it an intentional shot at Stoll’s head, but just like the guy whose stick comes up, it was somewhere between careless and reckless and when you’re known for ending guys’ playoffs with hits that get you thrown out of the postseason, you have to be more careful.

  10. kingcobraman - May 31, 2013 at 2:46 PM

    el torro is a marked man , but is respected by his teammates… 20 years ago he would have been a all star…

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