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Penguins in five over the Bruins, predicts anonymous NHL coach

May 30, 2013, 9:22 PM EST

An anonymous Eastern Conference coach believes the Pittsburgh Penguins will beat the Boston Bruins in the Eastern Conference finals, thus advancing to the Stanley Cup Final, according to the Toronto Sun.

That coach – who could it be? – called the Penguins in five games, too.

Here’s a snippet of what the mystery bench boss told the Toronto Sun.

“I think both teams are very deep at forward and I think the Penguins have the scoring depth as far as the number of goals. That gives them a bit of an advantage.

“Where the Bruins are strong is in the number of guys who can play a 200-foot game. They are very good systemically. The big factor is going to be Pittsburgh’s ability to continue generating offence and who is going to be able to establish their game how often and for how long.”

Of course, the Bruins and their fans might think otherwise. And be sure to click here for a video preview of the Eastern final from ProHockeyTalk’s own Mike Halford and Jason Brough.

The Penguins, who also won out on the Jarome Iginla sweepstakes over Boston prior to the trade deadline, did sweep the season series, going 3-0-0 against the Bruins.

All three games, however, were decided by one goal, as pointed out by Tim Wharnsby of CBC in his Eastern Conference final preview.

  1. Habib Marwan - May 30, 2013 at 9:29 PM

    i have no doubts at all that pittsburgh will win this series but lets be realistic here it’s going to take them more then 5 games to do it … i say it goes 6 or 7

  2. steelers88 - May 30, 2013 at 9:38 PM

    I really don’t listen to stupid predictions because they really mean nothing at all to the actual game or even the series. The game is played on the ice and not paper and anything can happen.

  3. bigbadbruins77 - May 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    Habs coach is that you? 5 really? !?

  4. atwatercrushesokoye - May 30, 2013 at 9:42 PM

    It’s a prediction, not a big deal, have the balls to put your name on it! It’s not like it’s controversial, it’s an honest opinion.

    • 19to77 - May 30, 2013 at 9:52 PM

      Ah, but this is the NHL, remember? Bettman and his squad of hacks would find some BS excuse to fine him for it anyway.

  5. cowboys282 - May 30, 2013 at 9:50 PM

    Yes the Pens went 3-0 in the regular season but I wouldn’t read to much into that. Not only were all the games 1 goal games but the first two games Bruins were on the tail end of a back to back and on the road in Pittsburgh. The third game was rescheduled at home after the marathon mess and standoff.

    Anyone who can remember the Philly series last year take note. The Bruins are bigger and tougher than that Philly team. They are now rested and healthy.

    Early in the year the Bruins were rested and healthy and were unstoppable. Let’s see what happens.

    • killerpgh - May 30, 2013 at 10:05 PM

      The Pens were also on the 2nd game of a back-to-back in the 2nd meeting. Malkin also didn’t play in any of those 3 games and Crosby missed the last game between the clubs. Not that it means the Penguins will win the series, but if the Penguins went 3-0 against the Bruins this year and are now adding one of the top 5 players in the world in Malkin into the line-up for this series you have to like their chances.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 30, 2013 at 10:18 PM

        It’s the playoffs, all 4 remaining teams are excellent, yes Pittsburgh have those players in the lineup, but they’ll also be facing a Boston team that will be playing more physical than they were in the regular season, or anyone that Pittsburgh has faced so far during the playoffs. Two other points: 1. Pittsburgh has had Crosby and Malkin healthy before but they haven’t won a cup since 2009, so it’s not automatic. 2. The Islanders gave the Pens a tough run when no one thought they could.

        Does that mean Boston will win? I don’t know, it’ll be a great series, I’m just saying don’t put too much stock in anything that’s happened up until this point, this series exists on its own what happens here will be based on momentum going in and either continued or gained during the series, not anything that happened months ago.

      • dirt2013 - May 30, 2013 at 10:35 PM

        The “style” the Isles play gives the Pens trouble without a doubt.Boston does not play that style nor do they have the Isles speed. As far as hitting goes did the Bruins take the 3 games off during the season and only hit during the playoffs? Saturday can’t get here fast enough.

      • bigbadbruins77 - May 30, 2013 at 10:41 PM

        Don’t forget the Bruins had a few guys out during those games too. Horton for one. Plus adding the two young scoring studs on d and jags will help. Too many stars isn’t good. Bruins d will be able to neutralize most of them. Plus the Bruins had a 2 to 0 lead Late in the 3rd of one of those games and ran out of gas. It will be a good series. I believe it will come down to sheer will and who reaches it more

      • cheesesteak75 - May 30, 2013 at 11:12 PM

        I would rather have a team with “too many stars” than just a few! The Burins will need to neturalize all of them, have a goalie stand on his head, or score a ton of goals to win the series. Sheer will from either team will not win this series.

      • 19to77 - May 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM

        Uh. “Too many stars isn’t good”? You’re gonna have to explain how burying your opponent in wave upon wave of All-Stars is a bad thing.

      • lindbergh9 - May 30, 2013 at 11:31 PM

        It’s easy to say Pens had a rough time with the Islanders but what about Boston squeezing by their hairs on their chin with Toronto. Toronto???

  6. atwatercrushesokoye - May 30, 2013 at 10:08 PM

    I’m not sure which team will win but the 3-0-0 stat really goes out the window at this point, it’s the playoffs, both teams are going to be going all out, on paper it looks like a close series. One of the least talked about things right now is how game 1 will be Pittsburgh’s 60th game this year, and I believe Boston’s 61st so the usual fatigue that would be setting in at this point with players just running on adrenaline shouldn’t be an issue.

  7. hockeyfan28 - May 30, 2013 at 10:13 PM

    What makes Pittsburgh an easy pick is the way they play defense first system teams if you look
    at the Pens record against the likes of the Rangers,Devils,and Bruins they literally own them while teams
    that run more of an uptempo style give them problems….ala their cross state rivals or even the leafs. Which is
    why after they beat Boston they’ll have a tougher time with Chicago then they would with L.A.

    • nunan - May 30, 2013 at 10:32 PM

      I think people assume that, because the B’s system starts from the goalie and works its way out, they don’t score goals. They’re second in the entire playoffs in goals scored. When they went on their run in 2011, they were running goalies out of the building every other game (Boucher, Roloson, Luongo). They scored 4+ goals 11 times, scoring as many as 7 and 8 goals in a couple games. This is the same team, except instead of Recchi, they have Jagr and their defense is more dangerous now with the two rookies. They can score but for whatever reason, they always seem to need a ‘push’ in that direction. They’re already scoring but I think all the intensity in this series is going to push them even move. That and the Pen’s defense/goaltending is average.

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 31, 2013 at 12:26 AM

        1. You are forgetting a certain goaltender who is now “signed” with the Islanders. Thomas was F-ING INCREDIBLE in 2011. I know the poor guy screwed you guys over this year but at least give him the credit he deserves. He didn’t get that Conn Smythe from sitting on the bench!

        2. Check the stat sheet because Vokoun is playing better than Rask through the first 2 rounds. Just because he’s the Pens “backup” doesn’t mean he’s not playing better than your starter is.

        That’s not to say I agree with what the article says. I think Rask will steal at least one game and the Bruins will just outplay the Pens at least one game, maybe two. But Thomas was a HUGE reason they won that Cup and Vokoun has looked as elite as any goaltender has this playoffs. You seemed to have just passed over those facts in your post.

      • nunan - May 31, 2013 at 12:52 AM

        The initial comment was on the B’s “defensive style” and how the Pens beat teams with that style. So, my comment was in reference to the fact that the B’s put up numbers. People inaccurately think they play a prevent style of hockey when they clearly don’t. I pointed that out and referenced it with numbers, to back it up. I never said anything about defense or goaltending. That wasn’t the topic.

        But since you brought it up, TT did have one of the most incredible stretches ever, for any goalie, during the post season that year. He didn’t have anything to do with all the pucks they were putting in the net though. That’s really irrelevant when discussing the Bs offense.

        As for Vokoun, let’s be honest. He has good numbers. He has been a backup for years for a reason though. He is not elite at all and my guess is at the first sign of trouble, Fleury gets put back in. Let’s not go over the top with Vokoun here. He’s not special. He’s just a solid netminder. Consider the big picture, not just the last couple of weeks. Rask needs to prove himself but the goaltending favors the Bs more this series than it does the Pens.

  8. pitpenguinsrulez - May 30, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    Screw Boston! Could honestly careless for any of the sports teams there especially the Pats and Bruins. This series will be won by the Pens in 6. I just want to see the stupid look on Charas face when the Pens win the Prince of Wales Trophy on Bruin ice. I’d also love to see Rask get chased out of net because Boston has to no one to really go to.

  9. arbruins - May 30, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    I like the fact that the Bruins are the underdog…they were the underdog in 2011 and look where that got us!

    HERE WE GO BRUINS HERE WE GO!!!!

  10. pdmjr - May 30, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    They might win in 444444444

  11. charleslouis99 - May 30, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    probably John Tortorella

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 30, 2013 at 10:56 PM

      JT is not a coach in the EC, so it can’t be him.

  12. pdmjr - May 30, 2013 at 10:58 PM

    Ottawa would have beaten the Bruins

  13. atwatercrushesokoye - May 30, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    It’s the Toronto Sun, 99% chance it’s Randy Carlisle.

    • leafs2013 - May 31, 2013 at 12:44 AM

      Just because its the Toronto sun doesn’t mean it is someone in Toronto, they have reporters all over the place. Also if your gonna call someone out spell their name right.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 31, 2013 at 5:32 PM

        Was it a Toronto Sun reporter or a “Sun” in general reporter. The Sun has papers in 2 Eastern Conference cities, Ottawa and Toronto, if it was an actual Toronto Sun reporter I would guess it was the Leafs coach, if it was just a Sun reporter then it’s probably 50/50 on whether it’s the Leafs or Sens coach who said it. Either way it’s a pretty mild thing to say, not controversial in any way so I’m not sure why they wouldn’t put their name on it. And I didn’t “call him out” I’m just of the opinion that it looks like it could be him.

        As far as me spelling his name wrong you are correct it’s Carlyle, my bad, I’m sure the next time I type his name (which probably won’t happen often) ill make sure to get it right so I don’t face your wrath once again.

  14. stakex - May 30, 2013 at 11:25 PM

    The Pens couldn’t beat the Islanders in five, so as long as Rask doesn’t do an el-foldo like Anderson I expect this to be a long series.

    • jpelle82 - May 31, 2013 at 9:17 AM

      anderson and nabakov. and just about every other goalie in the league this year. ya good luck, rask is average as it is, he’s about to get exposed.

    • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 10:14 AM

      Yea and the bruins couldn’t beat the rangers in 4, or Toronto in 6. The Bruins needed a miraculous comeback in the final 10 minutes of the 3rd in a game 7 just to be where there at now. However none of that matters. The people who understand hockey know that, you sir are just an idiot.

  15. sabatimus - May 30, 2013 at 11:42 PM

    Two guesses. Strike that: two hits. Me hitting you, you hitting the floor. Anytime you’re ready.

  16. navyeoddavee9 - May 30, 2013 at 11:45 PM

    Pens in six. For the Bruins fans, who think going 0-3, against the pens, means nothing, if it was 3-0 Bruins, a different tune, u would be singing!

  17. crusty14 - May 31, 2013 at 12:22 AM

    You’re wrong there navydave! I don’t think that any knowledgeable pens or bruin fan would put too much stock in those three one goal regular season games.

    Obviously they were all close games, and either team could’ve taken them. Granted the pens won all 3 and good on them, but those are the types of games bruins play. You take the fact that Pitt didn’t score a crapload of goals against them will give the b’s some motivation .on the other hand, if Boston had won all 3 games, that wouldnt mean much to Pitt either, and the bruins certainly wouldn’t think theY were a shoo-in to win the serieS because of it.

    Either way, it should be a great series, 2 best teams in the EC . Many including myself, picked this match up at the beginning of the season! Go Bruins Go!!

    • mordock57 - May 31, 2013 at 1:07 AM

      Actually, in two of those games, the Bruins held a lead into the third period. Then the Pens kicked into gear and tied, then won. The Bruins could have and probably SHOULD have won at least one of those games. Hell, the two I’m talking about happened in the same week. And the Pens stole those wins from them without some of their best talent. You can keep telling yourselves that none of that matters now and that Boston isn’t thinking about it… but I guarantee they are. And their coach is. The Bruins, this season, don’t actually know whether they can beat the Pens. And that’s a hell of a mental advantage to Pittsburgh, who KNOWS they can beat this team, even when down in the third.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 10:00 AM

        I guarantee you Claude, nor any of the Bruins are thinking about that. The teams are different; the chemistry is different; they were ONE goal games. If all three games were 6-0 maybe then. this is the NHL.

        a few questions – how much got into the Bruins heads when:
        heading BACK to MTL down 0-2 then down 3-1 in game three half way through? (2011)
        When they won game 7 against the Tampa after giving away game 6 (2011)
        what about going down 0-2 to vancouver on two tough loses and then winning game 7 in vancouver (without Horton 2011).
        And finally- ask Toronto how much they think they B’s get rattled. 4-1 with 10 minutes left in game 7.
        down 4-2 with 1:22 left (2013)

        The pens have some advantages going into this series and the Bruins have some as well. One advantage you don’t have is a mental one. If the players think the same way; watch out. These guys are professionals; they certainly wouldn’t have won the cup in 2011 if they felt that way because the similarities are striking.

        I think it’s funny that Pens fans think they can wear down Chara. Dude is 6’9″ 270 and bikes the tour de france in the offseason – for fun. oh yeah, he just had a week+ off.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 10:21 AM

        Hey pepper did you see how tired looked in that last series? The guy basically handed Stephan the puck behind the net before he put it in. If you recall the first game against the pens vs bruins this year when you guys blew that lead in the 3rd to Brandon sutter and the pens. It was matt cooke and dupuis throwing checks at chara which caused him to slow down and when he did he turned the puck over. Check the tape. Your other defenseman was the guy who made the bad pass that got intercepted but chara’s inability to skate the puck out due to fatigue from getting checked forced the pass to his defensive partner. Kudos he can ride a bike though. Dupuis actually bikes to the arena every morning.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 10:41 AM

        perception is funny. I don’t think he looked tired at all. they killed the Rangers. 4-1 and if it weren’t were Rask falling down and a miscommunication from a 19 yo it would have been 4-0.

        I don’t care what you think; I care what his teammates think.

        the sutter goals were soft – FYI – at least the last one. bad angle by Khoudobin.

        I know you will reply with some “there is no way Boston has a chance” comment. it’s fine. Games start tomorrow and we will see. It really seems like you are trying to convince yourself that this is a lock for the Pens.

        http://www.boston.com/sports/hockey/bruins/2013/05/17/bruins-defenseman-zdeno-chara-excels-with-more-ice-time-playoffs/O2rZmbng2wmF6qnevWgRqK/story.html

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 10:52 AM

        You can post all the articles you want, but my eyes don’t lie. When you hit chara he gets frustrated and makes mental mistakes. By the way this is the Eastern conference finals every team has a chance. This series will probably go the distance. I am just saying when chara has been matched up against the pens it hasn’t been a problem. Ever.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 11:15 AM

        LOL.

        Should I look for what your eyes told you last year against Philly?

        Seriously? I give you proof, but your “eyes” no better.

        My eyes tell me you lost a playoff series to Ilya Bryzgalov.
        My eyes tell me Sid and Malkin, and Letang are Fragile.
        My eyes tell me Vokoun is a rebound machine
        My eyes also tell me a “tired” Chara is still a better option than anyone on your team (defensive d-men, letang is obviously better on O ).
        lastly my eyes tell me you are ALREADY using your backup goalie. who at 36 years old has LESS playoff experience than his counterpart who is more than a decade younger.
        The fun thing about stats/averages is that they are just that. There has been very production from Seguin, Jagr, Kelly, Peverley and you could even add Marchand and Bergeon into that mix. If that’s going to change I will take my chances against a goalie who is below .500 for his career who’s CAREER BEST GAA was 2.44(12 years ago).

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 11:16 AM

        *damnit – Know

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 11:30 AM

        haha yea because this is the SAME team that played against philly last yaer. You are a beaut to debate with bud. Paul Martin probably has better d stats this year then chara. Look it up. I am curious. Vokoun might be older and have less experience but his stats this postseason are still better then your defensive sound bruins. FACT.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 11:36 AM

        If our backup goalie has better stats this postseason then your starting goalie, what does that say about your starting goalie? I’m confused how our goalie is our weak link but your goalie is your strength, when vokoun is outperforming rask. This is the type of comments I’m referring to when I say I make you look foolish.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 11:46 AM

        Ok, of all the things you have said Paul Martin and Chara – really?

        you are a funny little man.

        they had the same +/-
        Chara has more hits this year than Martin has since the 09-10 season combined.
        Chara has more blocks 64 to 50

        if you are not even willing to concede that Chara is a better player than Paul Martin; you are not worth the banter.

        The equivalent would be like me saying Chris kelly is better than Crosby.

        Fun fact: Krejci has 17pts and is a +9 Sid 15pts and a -1.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 11:54 AM

        you played the sens and isles. nowhere near the offense of Toronto and Rangers. And you have the audacity to call ANYONE foolish after saying Martin is in the same league as Chara?

        Rask is WAY better than Vokoun. You’ll see. He is a strength and Vokoun is your major weakness.

        keep trying to convince yourself. The Bruins and their fans know Rask and their D are a stregth the Pens know it too. The Pens fans are trying to believe it, but know deep down it’s tomas vokoun.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 12:00 PM

        HAHAHA check the rangers stats offensively this year. By far one of the worst in the ENTIRE league. So chara and paul martin share the same +/- this year and martin was on our shut down pair with orpik going against the other teams top line yet they cant be compared because chara has more hits and blocked shots? They both kept the puck out of the net the same, yet you laugh when I compare the 2. You are a joke bud. Give up. If rask is so superior to vokoun why don’t his stats show that this postseason. Seriously look up the Leafs, rangers, sens, and islanders offensive stats this year and try and tell me with a straight face rask had it harder. Your a joke.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 12:31 PM

        I did.

        The Rangers were average 15th in the league. Past Tavares; The Isles don’t have much- Moulson is nice, but has inflated numbers playing with JT.

        Callahan, Nash, JVR, Kessel, Brassard, Stepan, Lupul & Kadri are better than anyone Vokoun saw with the exception of Tavares.

        GPG:
        Toronto: 3.02
        Isels: 2.81
        Rangers: 2.62
        Sens: 2.33

        seriously, you have a good team. it’s ok to admit there are flaws because there are. Vokoun is one and your defense is another. Martin is not better than Chara and vokoun is not better than Rask.

        really – first rd. Kessel and JT cancel then what? I’ll give you Moulson and Lupul as a wash; although Lupul is better. JVR and Kadri vs Czikas and Mcdonald? hmmm….

        then what sens… pageau, turris and a 40 yo alfredson vs. Nash, Brassard, A terrible richards, callahan, stepan and hagelin.

        get a grip man.

        plus you can’t have it both ways. It can’t be Chara’s fault and Rask’s.
        I know it happened, but you can’t count on it happening again – the goal rask fell down on led to the goal by Stepan and the subsequent OT goal. Which was a bad defensive play. if you remove those rask’s numbers look a lot different.

        I think what you are telling me is you are counting on Freak plays? Good luck.

        is vokoun better than Lundqvist? you know… good ol’ Tommy is probably better than Brodeur, Roy and Hasek.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 12:46 PM

        Whatever helps you sleep at night bud. Rangers have been criticized all year because of all the star power yet they couldn’t put the puck in the net. Rask still has worse stats then vokoun (a backup as you call him) and chara has the same +/- as martin. These are all facts. We have jussi jokinen and Brendan morrow on our FOURTH line. We won’t need freak goals.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 12:51 PM

        how’s that for being made to look like a fool?

        “HAHAHA check the rangers stats offensively this year. By far one of the worst in the ENTIRE league.’

        The team that is one of the worst offensive teams; in the ENTIRE league averaged more goals than Vancouver, San Jose, STL, EDM Scoring one less goal than the Canes and Bruins.

        Whammy?!?

      • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 12:55 PM

        hahaha do you want me to pull up the number of articles calling out the rangers offense? Im sorry I didn’t realize they turned it on at the end there. About as much as I made you look for calling rask a strength and vokoun a backup. Whammy. Vokoun stats > Rask. Paul martin = to chara. WHAMMY.

      • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 1:01 PM

        If we are using the same logic than the Bruins 1st line forwards are substantially better than the pens offensively.

        1st line +32 Bruins vs +3 Pens

        I guess Campbell is better than Sid
        Campbell +6 Sid -1

        how does Mario’s taint taste. you nose is pretty far up there?

    • sportsfreak13 - May 31, 2013 at 1:11 PM

      Awwww that’s cute your comparing our teams offense now. Mario has 3 cups so I imagine it tastes like a winner. This all in good fun pep. I fully expect to take some flack when the pens lose (they might) but I am fully confident and I won’t back down, nor do I expect you too.

  18. hockeyflow33 - May 31, 2013 at 1:38 AM

    No mention of defense or goaltending, not like those factor into championships…

  19. bruins1414 - May 31, 2013 at 2:35 AM

    Why isn’t this coach in the playoffs ?? If the islanders and sens can hang … Bruins def can.. Bruins in 6

  20. Stiller43 - May 31, 2013 at 2:43 AM

    Bruins1414,

    If combining to lose 8 of 11 games while being outscored 47-28 is “hanging” with the pens…well, youve got a weird definition of hanging, i’d say.

  21. titansbro - May 31, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    It’s funny people keep predicting this series & then in the next breath they say anything can happen in the hockey, look at LA.

  22. ironyisadeadscene - May 31, 2013 at 7:15 AM

    The mystery coach is…….Claude Julien. He is really trying to play up the underdog card and get his guys to play with the edge they did vs Vancouver a few years ago.

    Go Bs

  23. whammy71 - May 31, 2013 at 7:26 AM

    It’ll be over in 3…..Bs will forefit game 4.

  24. jacketsfan7 - May 31, 2013 at 7:42 AM

    It’ll take 6 or 7

  25. papajack1259 - May 31, 2013 at 8:53 AM

    In most series the penalties are even so if Boston can match Pitts play on special teams including short handed scoring they might have a chance. the two kid defend en and Seguin will have to step up. this will come down to third fourth line play always does. Penne are favored rightly so but so were the Canucks I hope the refs go unnoticed.
    one more thing Goal tending can win a cup IE Thomas
    I like Boston in that department Penns can not be flipping the goalies any more
    this is great for Hockey

  26. hounds2013 - May 31, 2013 at 9:35 AM

    Bruins in 7, on a OT goal by Jagr. Just to rub it in Mario’s face.

  27. whiskytango333 - May 31, 2013 at 9:50 AM

    The only question that matters is if the Bruins can score at least 4 goals every night, because Pittsburgh is going to hang at least three a night on the Bruins. Sans game 3 in the Senators series, they made Craig Anderson, a Vezina calliber goalie, look pedestrian. What are they going to do to Rask?

    • pepper2011 - May 31, 2013 at 11:02 AM

      how’d that work for the Canucks?

      Rask is better than Anderson, but yeah… keep listening to Madden.
      Rask’s worst year is Anderson’s average.

      Rask:
      138 GP – 2.15 GAA – 16 SO -.927%
      Anderson:
      318 GP – 2.71 GAA – 22 SO – .915%

      The Glaring number is the 72% shutouts in 42% of the games played, and the .50+ goal a game.

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