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Roy wants Sakic to explore trading first overall pick

May 28, 2013, 5:39 PM EDT

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Patrick Roy isn’t just the new head coach of the Avalanche that wants to bring a “Stanley Cup attitude” back to Colorado; he’s also the new vice president of hockey operations, a role that allows him input on all player-personnel decisions made by Joe Sakic, the executive vice president of hockey operations.

One thing Roy wants Sakic to explore, according to Renaud Lavoie of RDS? Trading the team’s first overall pick at this summer’s draft.

Ho-hum.

Granted, Roy is only suggesting Sakic should explore the option, but now that it’s out there, unless Sakic comes out and says he’s definitely not trading the pick, expect to hear plenty of speculation leading up to June 30 in Newark.

The two top candidates to be picked first overall are Portland defenseman Seth Jones and Halifax forward Nathan MacKinnon, both of whom have the potential to be franchise players in the NHL.

Related: MacKinnon moves back to No. 1 in ISS rankings

  1. valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 28, 2013 at 5:48 PM

    Oh! Shot! On a role!

    valoisjoeybfeld69 – May 28, 2013 at 4:23 PM
    It’s not like the Avs are one D man away. McKinnon is one of those talents that you can’t pass, unless the Avs decide to make a block buster trade like the Lindros deal for example when he was traded from Quebec

  2. atwatercrushesokoye - May 28, 2013 at 5:49 PM

    If hope the Flames make an offer, something like their 2 highest first round picks this year and a conditional (1 or 2) next year, or I’d even consider trading all three firsts this year if the deal was right. They need MacKinnon, we haven’t had a true number 1 center since they traded Neiuwendyk.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 28, 2013 at 5:59 PM

      Would you make that trade w/o getting any bona fied NHL caliber player in return? I wouldn’t.

  3. letsgolightning - May 28, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    I’m sure we h4ve a cert4in someone we could tr4de aw4y to sw4p the third pick for the first.

    • gaborik104life - May 28, 2013 at 6:49 PM

      I see what you did there

    • tycobbfromfangraphs - May 28, 2013 at 7:46 PM

      I’m certain he has a NTC and nearly certain he has no interest in waiving it.

      • letsgolightning - May 28, 2013 at 9:15 PM

        Unfortunately, that’s the biggest hurdle. If I were in his position, I certainly wouldn’t waive it to go to Colorado

    • mathieug79 - May 29, 2013 at 8:03 AM

      I would do it in a heartbeat, but probably would have to take salary back, Why not trade our 3rd overall pick and Malone for the 1st overall pick and Statsny. We take a contract that they don’t want in Statsny, it gives Statsny a fresh start and the lightning get a playmaking top 6 forward a either a Top centermen in Nathan MacKinnon or a future top dmen in Seth Jones (I like MacKinnon over Jones though). In return the Avs get 2 picks lower, where they can still pick a great player, they get Malone a guy who can play with toughness and stand in front of the oppositions net.

      If that deal doesn’t work for the Avs, the lightning can throw in a young player they have in the AHL just to sweeten the pot.

  4. tru2joelu4eva - May 28, 2013 at 5:51 PM

    I hate this stupid team. I’m moving to Calgary.

  5. mendenhallfumblemachine - May 28, 2013 at 6:05 PM

    Letsgolightning Sorry to tell u but highly doubt anyone wants Vinny and his 7.7 cap hit at 33 years old, not to mention give up value for him.

    • 950003cups - May 28, 2013 at 6:17 PM

      The Bolts? For them to get that pick, they’d have to swap picks and hand over Hedman.

      • jrillah10 - May 28, 2013 at 6:56 PM

        Yea Hedman Genius. The Lightning are sitting at number 3. There is no way they make that deal. And Colorado is crazy if they think that would happen.

      • letsgolightning - May 28, 2013 at 9:18 PM

        Somebody good for sure, but not Hedman. The goal would be to get Seth Jones. No sense in giving up our best d-man just to move up to get a not-as-good defender (albeit one with potential).

  6. ethanmacleod1685 - May 28, 2013 at 6:14 PM

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    • JoeAvg - May 28, 2013 at 7:13 PM

      The return of ASCII art.

    • kegmen7 - May 28, 2013 at 9:29 PM

      seriously, how long did that take?

      • jcmeyer10 - May 28, 2013 at 9:41 PM

        Copy and Paste young Padwan.

    • tdrusher225 - May 28, 2013 at 11:31 PM

      I may disagree with the point, but mad respect for the artwork. Must’ve taken a while

  7. blackhawkslove - May 28, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    When you get to be a hall of fame goaltender like Roy then you can criticize his decision. He knows a lot more than anyone else here does.

    • imacdane - May 28, 2013 at 6:35 PM

      I suppose you think Gretzky was a great coach

      • blackhawkslove - May 28, 2013 at 7:22 PM

        He wasn’t the BEST but he surely wasnt the worst. There have been a lot of terrible coaches and Gretzky was at least above average.

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 28, 2013 at 7:42 PM

        and how was Milbury as GM?

      • 19to77 - May 28, 2013 at 7:44 PM

        Career record:
        Games coached – 328
        Wins – 143
        Losses – 161
        Overtime losses – 24
        Point % – .473

        Below 50% win rate isn’t strictly below average as far as I know, but it’s bad. If you can’t hit .500, you don’t keep your job. Only reason he kept his so long is that he was a partial owner and a legend as well as the coach.

  8. detroitcityy - May 28, 2013 at 6:24 PM

    That’s good that they are keeping options open

  9. withseidelinn - May 28, 2013 at 6:41 PM

    He’s just exploring every possible option they have. If some team offers them an extremely talented player that is already established, why not? Both Mackinnon and Jones will play one more year in junior, and I can’t see them having a really significant impact until their 2nd year in the show. If they get a great player right now, I can see it happening.

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 28, 2013 at 7:45 PM

      disagree. McKinnon can make an immediate impact with an NHL team. He’s won’t be the first 18 yr old to crack an NHL line up. Jones, not so much immediately.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM

        I agree, MacKinnon has played his last game for the Mooseheads (unless he’s completely lost at camp in Sept) he’ll make whichever team drafts him

      • withseidelinn - May 28, 2013 at 8:36 PM

        I doubt Mackinnon will make the team out of camp, they will probably play him for a few and then return him to junior before the 6 game window closes.

      • 19to77 - May 28, 2013 at 8:52 PM

        There’s nothing more for him to accomplish at the junior level. Nothing. Whoever gets him would be wasting a year of his development if they left him in junior next year.

      • atwatercrushesokoye - May 28, 2013 at 9:08 PM

        It’s 10 games not 6, but what’s the benefit of returning him to junior? First overall picks very rarely if ever go back to junior, MacKinnon will be no exception.

      • devilsarethebest - May 28, 2013 at 11:39 PM

        It’s actually 5 games.

  10. polegojim - May 28, 2013 at 6:43 PM

    Right now… he hasn’t made any mistakes and I like his thinking.

    Why take #1… when you could get a #6 and #9 or you get my point. One guy will not make a Stanley Cup team – two guys… is a MUCH better start.

    You want to criticize decisions??? Start with the Wild and a 200 mil first round exit from the playoffs.

    • rolstoncansnipe12 - May 28, 2013 at 7:47 PM

      Last time I checked it wasn’t a 1 year $200 mil contract….they have 12 more years to get it done, no non-bandwagon wild fan thought they were gonna make a cup push this year. But in the first year they got a new leading goal scorer and a Norris Trophy candidate, so yeah just a terrible decision.

      • devilsarethebest - May 28, 2013 at 11:41 PM

        How’d they do in the playoffs, eh? Enjoy 12 more Cup-less years.

      • polegojim - May 29, 2013 at 12:26 AM

        Not true Sniper… teams don’t bring those guys in for a ‘rebuilding’ effort that will take 12 years.

        That’s NOT how it’s done. You’re drinking the Wild Berry apologist Kool-Aide.

  11. JoeAvg - May 28, 2013 at 7:11 PM

    Of course he would like to see it. He’s the coach now and needs to win now to keep his job.

    There’s always the right deal that you must take, but that doesn’t mean the other team is willing to make it. Future potential like MacKinnon (or Jones) shouldn’t be given for just the best deal offered. I would think (hope) Roy and Sakic are smart enough to realize (realise?) this.

  12. andidee15 - May 28, 2013 at 7:51 PM

    The last time this franchise traded their first overall (Lindros), it worked out pretty okay for us in the end. With that in mind, I think a better question to ask than “Will the Avs trade the first overall?” is “Will another team be willing to give up enough to get the first overall in return?”

    My bet would be no.

    • atwatercrushesokoye - May 28, 2013 at 9:15 PM

      They don’t have Marcel Aubut around to make two trades this time though.

  13. zwilhelm16 - May 28, 2013 at 7:59 PM

    Thank you for shattenkirk Colorado!!!!!

    • jernster21 - May 28, 2013 at 8:51 PM

      He’s doing well for you guys in the playoffs right now. Oh, wait.

  14. thomasvanek - May 28, 2013 at 8:28 PM

    I guarantee that the Sabres will be in on the conversation. They have a ton of picks and they want a quick rebuild and this is an opening.

    • jernster21 - May 28, 2013 at 9:14 PM

      Eh I dunno, I would say Vanek/Miller/Myers/Ehrhoff and the 8th pick would have to be in that conversation (not all, but a combination). I don’t like Myers or Ehrhoff’s contracts (although the cap hit of Ehrhoff is tolerable – term is ridiculous) and I really don’t think the Avs need to rush a decision on Varlamov yet either. Stastny would have to go the other way for Vanek so you’d have to give up more picks than just the 8th.

      • thomasvanek - Jun 1, 2013 at 1:02 PM

        We have a ton of picks from trading Regehr, Leopold, and pominville. I believe we have 2 firsts this year withe two seconds. Next year we have one first and 3 seconds.

  15. jernster21 - May 28, 2013 at 9:03 PM

    I really can’t see the Avs trading with anyone outside the top 3 – their glaring needs are on wing and defense. MacKinnon can be moved to wing until they can move Stastny which will be hard to do with his cap hit. As a result, while the Avs have a comfortable amount of cap space, they can’t go bat sh*t crazy with Landeskog, Duchene and O’Reilly needing longer term deals.

    • jernster21 - May 28, 2013 at 9:27 PM

      Another thing is the Avs already have 18 roster players on one way deals. I would use a buy out on Greg Zanon and I’m still on the fence about buying out David Jones without giving him one more year to redeem himself but then it’s too late if it doesn’t work out since buyouts only work this off season. It’ll certainly be an interesting off-season come draft day and free agency.

      • jernster21 - May 28, 2013 at 9:27 PM

        Maybe add Hunwick to the buyout list but I feel like he could be moved for a pick at the very least.

  16. steelwarriors55 - May 28, 2013 at 10:04 PM

    I wonder if Flyers 1st(11th overall) + Matt Read and Bourdon would do it

    • tcclark - May 28, 2013 at 11:55 PM

      let me help you with that…. no

    • billyhauntswizards - May 29, 2013 at 3:15 AM

      laughable. no.

    • jovocop2112 - May 29, 2013 at 7:10 PM

      The Av’s should try to get Philly to give up their first, Couterier and whichever other McGinn they have, for the 1st overall and Stasny

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