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Discuss: Red Wings’ third-period collapse allows Blackhawks to force Game 7

May 27, 2013, 10:45 PM EDT

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The Detroit Red Wings were 20 minutes away from advancing to the Western Conference final.

But, with a one-goal lead, the Red Wings collapsed in the third period, and the Chicago Blackhawks forced a seventh and deciding game in this semifinal series with a 4-3 win Monday night.

Let’s discuss.

  • With their season in the balance, the Blackhawks got third-period goals from Michal Handzus, Bryan Bickell and Michael Frolik just eight minutes and 52 seconds apart to turn a one-goal deficit into a two-goal lead.
  • Frolik provided a little insurance for Chicago with a penalty shot goal in the third period. Nice move – fake forehand, then go backhand – to beat Jimmy Howard.
  • Did the referee make the right call, giving Frolik a penalty shot after he was tapped on the stick by Red Wings defenseman Carlo Colaiacovo?
  • The Blackhawks were able to rally after goalie Corey Crawford was handcuffed on a Joakim Andersson wrist shot that eluded him from long range, giving Detroit a 2-1 lead midway through the second period.
  • There was some healthy discussion as to whether the Blackhawks’ third goal was a good goal. Jonathan Toews appeared to be offside, however Red Wings’ forward Johan Franzen brought the puck back into his defensive zone. Here is the rule (83 – offside) from the NHL: “If a player legally carries or passes the puck back into his own defending zone while a player of the opposing team is in such defending zone, the off-side shall be ignored and play permitted to continue.”
  • What was Johnny Oduya thinking – icing the puck at even strength in the final minute of the game? His error led to not one but two offensive zone draws for the Red Wings as they looked for the equalizer. The Blackhawks escaped unharmed.
  1. killerpgh - May 27, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Game 7’s are great for fans when its not “your” team in it. I’m hoping for a double OT.

    • ravenscaps48 - May 27, 2013 at 11:01 PM

      Penalty Shot?……….. Facepalm

    • nothanksimdriving123 - May 27, 2013 at 11:10 PM

      I’m hoping for more than that. I want one of the teams to have to bring Pat Lafontaine back to end it the next morning like he did inn ’87!

    • ajcalifornia - May 28, 2013 at 12:05 AM

      61.1 Slashing – Slashing is the act of a player swinging his stick at an opponent, whether contact is made or not. Non-aggressive stick contact to the pant or front of the shin pads, should not be penalized as slashing. Any forceful or powerful chop with the stick on an opponent’s body, the opponent’s stick, or on or near the opponent’s hands that, in the judgment of the Referee, is not an attempt to play the puck, shall be penalized as slashing.

      7.3 Penalty Shot – When a player, in the neutral or attacking zone, in control of the puck (or who could have obtained possession and control of the puck) and having no other opponent to pass than the goalkeeper, is tripped or otherwise fouled from behind, thus preventing a reasonable scoring opportunity, a penalty shot shall be awarded to the non-offending side. Nevertheless, the Referee shall not stop play until the attacking side has lost possession of the puck to the defending side.

      Cry all you want about the bad calls, but this was a CORRECT call in every way… slashing and penalty shot.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:26 AM

        The complaint isn’t only partially related to the rules as written. The fact is, both teams have committed fouls from behind on breakaways and nothing has been called. Both teams.

        Now it’s a penalty shot, but only for that one play. There were others during that game that were let go, and during games 1-5. On both teams.

        No wonder players and fans of every team across the league keep saying nobody is sure what constitutes a penalty and what does not.

        Anyway, Detroit didn’t play as good as games 2-4. If they had, one penalty shot wouldn’t have made a difference. They needed to step it up and didn’t.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:26 AM

        sheesh… should have read, “The complaint IS only…”

      • ravenscaps48 - May 28, 2013 at 9:33 AM

        Thanks! I was saying that I have seen much worse not called a penalty shot, or even a penalty at all. The call was weak, and ultimately cost Detroit the game.

  2. joeyg88 - May 27, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    Offsides was a good call he brought it back into his own zone. I don’t know about a penalty shot but def should be 2 min for slashing. Oduya is an idiot. It also almost looked like it hit the Detroit player on the way down. Either way hawks will win game 7 at home with the madhouse rockin

  3. ludacrish05 - May 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM


  4. sjsharks66 - May 27, 2013 at 10:52 PM

    NHL-4 Redwings-3

    • jeffchadwick - May 27, 2013 at 10:54 PM

      If you were Russian and said that, Mike Milbury would be all over you.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:27 AM

        When you say, “Mike Milbury would be all over you”, it’s a little creepy, no?

  5. dt58 - May 27, 2013 at 10:53 PM

    Find it only fitting that the last series (before the re-alignment) between these two storied rivals goes to 7

  6. buckeye044 - May 27, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    How does Chris Rooney continue to get playoff games? Penalty for sure, but a shot, no way. Hawks should win game 7 on home ice.

  7. hammerhead5573 - May 27, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    40 min of hell to 20 min of heaven. As a realistic Hawks fan, I’m just glad there is a game 7. By the way with all the drama surrounding towes how come nothing and I mean nothing is being mentioned about datsyuk or the wings power play?That’s not smack talk either that’s a fair question

    • static00 - May 27, 2013 at 10:58 PM

      Wings power play is horrible, you have a great point there.

      • static00 - May 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

        I should say, WIngs power play is ineffective, Blackhawks power play defense is freaking awesome.

    • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:31 AM

      This isn’t an excuse. I hate when fans use this as an excuse.

      I’m convinced Datsyuk is injured. He’s one of the best defensive forwards in the league year after year but during this series he can’t keep up with Toews? Something doesn’t add up. Those two are usually pretty evenly matched, as evidenced by both getting the Selke nomination.

      • frozenmona68 - May 28, 2013 at 12:25 PM

        I noticed it too. He looks like he’s trying to stay on the ice, but is wiped out. It’s not age. I think he’s sick. The ol’ fashioned “bug”.

  8. static00 - May 27, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    BS penalty shot, nice way to blow a call ref. Total BS!!!

    • frozenmona68 - May 28, 2013 at 12:28 PM

      I’m as big of a wings fan as you can get… but it wasn’t a bs call. Sorry. It was a breakaway for crying out loud! You don’t slash at the guy, you skate harder and break up the play. They just didn’t play the puck yesterday. As much as I hated to see it happen, it was the right call. And believe me, I HATE SAYING THAT!!!

  9. jeam0202 - May 27, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    the person from behind on a breakaway ALWAYS slashes. and its usually a much much bigger slash. that was a very very weak call at a big point in the game.

    • ajcalifornia - May 28, 2013 at 1:21 AM

      A “slash” on the pads or hips… yes. A slash across the stick or hands preventing a scoring opportunity…. absolutely not. If not called, THEN you have something to gripe about.

  10. jakreidler - May 27, 2013 at 11:01 PM

    “Allowed” is a perfect word for it. They just sat there and watched the game escape them.

  11. bensawesomeness - May 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    I’m still furious over that penalty shot call

  12. indianhead1992 - May 27, 2013 at 11:04 PM

    Detroit fans chanting “refs you suck”… OH THE IRONY!!! Hawks playing like presidents trophy winners now and its scary for the Wings. Game 7 will be good, can’t wait, what a series between these two teams.
    Go Hawks!

    • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 28, 2013 at 6:40 AM

      Give credit to the Hawks for sure. However, if you can be objective you’ll admit that the Wings D play was less than good. Very uncharacteristic. Blown coverages, lost battles, and breakaways. Personaly makes no diff who wins, but looking forward to a 7th game.

  13. cspuck7 - May 27, 2013 at 11:06 PM

    The reason nobody is mentioning the Wings PP is because its been terrible all year

    • hammerhead5573 - May 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

      They scored on nearly 25% of the PP in last series.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:35 AM

        That’s what made it a story. It was 14.9 in the regular season.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:35 AM

        That’s what made it a story. It was 18.4 in the regular season.

      • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:36 AM

        Man, this comment system is just awesome.

  14. e5tolife - May 27, 2013 at 11:09 PM

    Get off your knees ref you’re blowin’ the game!

  15. countduku - May 27, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    While watching the Canadian broadcast of the game, Every announcer, and the commentators in the studio (all 6 total) each agreed that the penalty shot was the absolute correct call. These were not chicago or detroit media folk, so basically i’m trying to say please quit the whining red wing fans, your team just plain stunk in the third period and was outworked the final 20 minutes which cost them the game, and most likely the season.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - May 28, 2013 at 1:36 AM

      A fan of neither team, while I would not say it was a really bad call, I would note that we’ve all probably seen several breakaways in these playoffs in which the disruption was more blatant that were not deemed worthy of penalty shots. Now that may well say more about those other refs than about this call. I like penalty shots. And it was a great penalty shot!

  16. sprtsfan1 - May 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    Oh man! So much for that last change! I guess it didn’t make as big a difference after all. Babcock out-coached? Or Blackhawks outplayed?

    • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:39 AM

      That’s an easy one to answer. (From a Wings fan, BTW.)

      President’s Trophy winning club who set the regular season record for most consecutive games to start a season with a point beats 7th seeded team that was in 10th place with a handful of games to go in the regular season.

      Blackhawks outplayed Detroit. The fact that it’s going to game 7 kinda blows the ‘Babcock outcoached’ meme out of the water.

      • indianhead1992 - May 28, 2013 at 9:53 AM

        I agree Hawks out played and Coach Q didnt out coach Babcock. It was an equally coached game. Babcock can only do so much during the game, Smith sticking to his man can be preached all practice and on the bench, but those in game mistakes are on the players.

  17. joeyg88 - May 27, 2013 at 11:15 PM

    What about the stupid penalty from hossa in the last 2 minutes. Or was that a dive?

  18. nothanksimdriving123 - May 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Rather annoying to me, if no one else: Before the games Sunday in SJ and tonight in Detroit there were what they called moments of silence in memory of our troops lost in combat. These tributes totaled 13 seconds. yes, total; 4 seconds in SJ and 9 in Detroit, punctuated by people yelling who knows what. Pretty lame, IMHO. In other places, Canada if memory serves, and certainly the UK and Israel, when they do such things, they do at least a full minute of silence, and people actually stay quiet. Lame and weird of me to keep track and actually care? Perhaps, but as the son of a WWII vet, annoying nonetheless. Well, that’s my nickel’s worth.

    • blackhawksdynasty - May 27, 2013 at 11:33 PM

      I won’t compare America to Canada or anyone else, but you’re spot on. I’m proud to be the grandson of Korean and WWII Purple Heart recipients and great-grandson of a WWI vet. That type of behavior is sickening. All the more reason to love the greatest national anthem celebration before every game in Chicago. We don’t need a special day to honor our vets there – we do it every game. God Bless those who served and continue to serve.

    • frozenmona68 - May 28, 2013 at 12:34 PM

      Totally agree….but have you noticed, people don’t stand for the national anthem, don’t take hats off, don’t stop talking. It’s sad to watch the younger generation lose the appreciation for what the anthem means. People just don’t care. My son was over there in the “sandbox”. I’m lucky to have him home. Agree or not, we should show the respect.

  19. blackhawkslove - May 27, 2013 at 11:16 PM

    Sorry the red wings collapsed in the essential game. Calls are calls, you should have won the game regardless. I knew they would force game seven and will win.

  20. Florio's Lawyer - May 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    As soon as that penalty shot went it, all the bandwagon Detroit fans cleared out.
    The Joe Louis Arena crowd was diminished by half in just minutes.

  21. hammerhead5573 - May 27, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    I so much wanted to beat you to the punch with that line, but I held off. There is that and so much more that has been said that has been just plain dumb. There have been a few wings fans that have been realistic as well as Hawks fans but some who just hate to seeing the Hawks or Wings win, will say anything. With that said there is still a game 7 and at this point the score is tied 0-0. Nothing is a gimme in game 7’s

  22. alwaysgame7 - May 27, 2013 at 11:22 PM

    Not sure I’d call being behind a goal for most of a game “playing like the presidents cup winners”… If they knocked off the wings in 5 games with a couple of blowouts like the Pens did I could see it.

    Pens are the most dangerous team left, sure hope the Bruins D can make it a great series.

    Detroit vs SJ in the west would be a cool matchup. Lets see how it plays out- 2 game 7s to enjoy

    • ajcalifornia - May 28, 2013 at 2:05 AM

      So, president’s cup winners never come from behind then? Finding a way to come back from 3 games to 1 and beating a very good Detroit team on home ice in game 6 after being down most of the game…… I’d say that was playing pretty presidential. Getting down 3 games to 1…. not so presidential. :)

  23. blackhawksdynasty - May 27, 2013 at 11:23 PM

    As I’ve said many times on here, the refs aren’t the reason for a team winning or losing. It’s up to the players to get the job done. Bad calls go both ways all the time. Just gotta grind it out and give it everything you’ve got. That’s all the players can do. The best team will come out on top in the end.

    • blackhawksdynasty - May 27, 2013 at 11:36 PM

      And cue the thumbs-down from Wings fans…..sorry the truth hurts.

    • ajcalifornia - May 28, 2013 at 2:11 AM

      In a game 7 anything can happen. It is not necessarily the “best team” who wins. Heck… you could end up with a referee awarding the worse team with a bogus, undeserved penalty shot! 😉

  24. cspuck7 - May 27, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    OH THE IRONY? Totally laughable, the only irony here is that The mighty President Cup winners had to push this to Game 7. I mean before this series, the Wings were supposed to get swept out of the playoffs right?? The Wings played a terrible third period, and gave away the game to Chicago, and Chicago played harder and capitalized, if you really think they are back to their regular season form, then you must’ve only watched Saturday night’s game 5 and this 3rd period

  25. kicksave1980 - May 27, 2013 at 11:28 PM

    Detroit fans acting like the NHL hates them, like they never got a call over their 15 years of dominance. The league must’ve just started “hating” Detroit last week. And ratings? Yeah, Detroit never pulls in ratings…wow. Please shut up and get the tissues.

    Any fan base who leaves with 5 minutes left to “beat traffic” doesn’t deserve to see a win. Ever.

    • cspuck7 - May 28, 2013 at 1:19 PM

      Oh you must mean the bandwagoners, and yeah every fan base has them. Sort of like how that United Center was so empty for so many years, then the Blackhawks get a few top picks, a really good GM, win the Cup and its now full and the “Madhouse on Madison” is back! It happens everywhere, and is even more so apparent in the playoffs, so spare me the “doesn’t deserve to win” stuff. But as a Wings fan, I agree that the whole “NHL hate us” conspiracy is ridiculous; the Wings simply got outplayed by Chicago in the third period, and Frolik capitalized on a penalty shot that whether questionable or not, Howard could’ve stopped and kept the game within a goal

      • kicksave1980 - May 28, 2013 at 1:32 PM

        I definitely agree with you in regards to the bandwagon fans. I remember those days at the United Center well. I remember the tour busses full of Detroit fans who pretty much took the place over. Insult to injury was during the Blackhawks 75th anniversary season, they named Chris Chelios to the all-time team and he wouldn’t take his Detroit jersey off for the photo.

        You’re right, it does happen everywhere. Detroit has good and bad fans, just like everywhere else. My comment in regards to leaving early was pointed at a specific group.

      • gret9 - May 28, 2013 at 2:51 PM

        Yep, EVERY team has them, including Chicago and Detroit. After all the ‘bandwagon fan’ chirping the Detroit fans were doing earlier in the series, I decided to go check out their attendance during the Dead Wing days of the 80’s. They ranked in the bottom 1/3 of attendance. They are every bit the bandwagon fans that Chicago is….no better, no worse. Fans of every team in every sport (except for Tampa Bay Ray fans who don’t come regardless 😉 ) attend in bigger numbers when their team is winning than when it is losing.

  26. cspuck7 - May 27, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Blackhawksdynasty…I no doubt agree that the actions of those yelling was terrible, but do not imply those drunks or idiots are a representation of the Wings fan base as a whole

    • blackhawksdynasty - May 28, 2013 at 7:51 AM

      Didn’t imply anything – nor would I, as I live in Michigan and appreciate most wings fans. There are idiots at every game in every city. Still a shame that those few have little or no respect.

  27. sjsharks66 - May 28, 2013 at 12:20 AM

    About the moment of silence. I was at the SJ game and 99% stayed quiet while yelling at the drunks to shut their mouths. I can only assume the same was done for Detroit.

    I agree with you though, very disrespectful by a handful of idiots.

    • nothanksimdriving123 - May 28, 2013 at 1:49 AM

      It was quite obvious it was only a few idiots. But what I disliked even more was the decision to pay homage to our 1,321,600+ military deaths since 1775 for just 4 seconds. I’d quite like to talk with the person who made that decision. And most other American venues are similar in apparently being terrified of silence. I find it really weird.

      • ajcalifornia - May 28, 2013 at 2:33 AM

        They were mentioned and it made you think about them, so they were “honored”. Your opinion that more silence time translates to more honor is just your opinion and not shared by all. This is a personal thing and you should allow others their personal opinions. No one is right or wrong here.

  28. bhawk729 - May 28, 2013 at 6:46 AM

    Quit your whining Detroit…if you cared so much, your stands wouldnt have been empty after Frolik buried the correctly called penalty shot

    • hockeydon10 - May 28, 2013 at 8:47 AM

      Did you not watch game 2? Same thing was happening in Chicago with quite a bit of play left in the 3rd.

      It happens to every team in the playoffs if they’re losing by a few goals in the 3rd period. Especially in the playoffs where higher ticket prices attracts people with extra disposable income who don’t really follow their team that closely under normal circumstances.

    • comeonnowguys - May 28, 2013 at 8:59 AM

      Yeah, it’s unfortunate. But I’m sorry, there are still too many calling Blackhawk fans”bandwagoners” and “front-runners” for you to make that statement about the Red Wing fans.

      -A Blackhawk fan.

  29. comeonnowguys - May 28, 2013 at 8:54 AM

    After six games, one thing should be clear: The NHL needs to get these two teams back in the same division in the next couple of years while both franchises are strong.

  30. jrs45 - May 28, 2013 at 9:16 AM

    Kicksave said it best! Well said!

  31. ronthecubsfan - May 28, 2013 at 5:40 PM

    Johnny Oduya must be the worst defenseman in the league, certainly of those left playing now. Last nights’s icing during crunch time is just a rather glaring example of this, as seen by a nationwide audience. Occasionally he’ll make a nice play (like the OT pass in game 1 vs MIN, which I still believe was an accident), but most of the time I’m just screaming at the stupid stuff he does. Just watch him a little bit and you’ll see him making bonehead plays all the time. Giveaways in his zone, bad passes, fear in his eyes when he has the puck.

    Two things in his favor: quite a heavy shot from the point, and usually the ability to recover from the bonehead plays.

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