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Bruins GM Chiarelli sticks to his guns over Jagr-Iginla debate

May 26, 2013, 4:53 PM EDT

Peter Chiarelli AP

Now that the Bruins and Penguins are set to meet in the Eastern Conference finals, we can get down to the serious business of finding fun storylines to follow. One of the bigger ones? How the Bruins deal with facing the guy they nearly acquired in Jarome Iginla.

Bruins GM Peter Chiarelli spoke with reporters today about whether it’ll be awkward facing Iginla even in spite of acquiring Jaromir Jagr after missing out on the former Flames star. Matt Kalman of NHL.com has the story.

“It’s been well-chronicled, the Iginla stuff and the Jagr stuff, so we’re happy with who we got. I know he’s been snake-bitten a little bit, but he’s had a lot of chances; he’s created a lot of chances,” Chiarelli said. “But more importantly, in addition to the looks he gives the PP, he wears down the D, and there’s always two guys on him. I think we would’ve been fine with either, but we’re very happy with [Jagr].”

Jagr has yet to score a goal in the playoffs and has just four assists through 12 postseason games. If he’s snake-bitten, the venom is long-lasting as he hasn’t scored since April 21 against Florida. Meanwhile, Iginla has four goals and eight assists in the playoffs for the Penguins.

Then again, Iginla wasn’t facing Henrik Lundqvist and James Reimer either. Tuukka Rask and the Bruins defense should provide the Penguins with their biggest challenge yet in the postseason.

  1. bruins18 - May 26, 2013 at 4:59 PM

    Gonna be a hell of a series! Go B’s!

  2. banger60 - May 26, 2013 at 5:41 PM

    Old story, let’s move on.

  3. steelpenbucs87 - May 26, 2013 at 5:46 PM

    They haven’t been going against Reimer and Hank, but they did chase a Vezina worthy goalie playing behind one of the best NHL defenses this year.

  4. spyder00798 - May 26, 2013 at 6:46 PM

    Bruins!

  5. csilojohnson - May 26, 2013 at 7:12 PM

    No but they faced Anderson who was pegged the best goalie by most.
    Throw in the reigning Norris winner.
    Not taking away from Rask or the King.
    You couldve put a little more thought into your closer though.

    • jpelle82 - May 27, 2013 at 7:42 AM

      yeah i’m not sure rask and the b’s are better than the senators defensively. stats say otherwise and well we saw what happened to ottawa’s #1 penalty kill too.

  6. sjm1717 - May 26, 2013 at 8:03 PM

    Moron writer acts like Reimer is better than Anderson

  7. bigdaddy44 - May 26, 2013 at 8:04 PM

    Iginla is not in a Bruins uniform because he did not want to play under Claude Julien and his “system”, period. Jagr had no other option but to play for Julien. The production is proof that Iginla was dead on in his assessment. And for those of you who criticize Seguin for his lack of performance all year, look no further than Julian being in his head and up his rear end ever since he has been here. He will never reach his potential because Julien can’t mature a player who is not a system player first and foremost. Tory Krug is not a Claude system player either. That is the only reason that this kid was mushroomed in Providence all year. Claude had no choice to but to put him in the lineup because of injuries. So Claude falls in a big pile of s___, and comes out smelling like a rose because of Krug. Next year Julien will sit on Krug just like he has done to Seguin and did to Jagr after less than 2 games after being traded here. Seguin is destined to be a center in this league, and when the Bruins needed center help this year, Claude’s patience lasted less than 2 games.
    Before all you pink hats defend Julien, remember that he is the Jacobs brothers of coaches. The Jacobs brothers made hundreds millions of dollars off Bruins fans over the last couple of decades by spending just enough money to put a mediocre team on the ice, that would make the playoffs, and then pray for that miracle performance that might get them to a cup. Julien’s system breeds the same type of mediocrity, but the difference is that the salary cap helped even the playing field and Tim Thomas gave quite possibly the greatest performance ever by a goaltender in the playoffs. Thomas standing on his head + mediocre system = 2011 Stanley Cup win.
    If you can’t understand this,1. you may just be too young 2. you might be a pink hat or 3. you might be too much of a dumb ass to understand the different coaching styles that are employed in this league. Before responding to bash me, please identify yourself as either 1,2 or 3 (there is no other option if you don’t understand the truth). Please don’t come back with stupid selective remarks like “You want to fire the coach during the playoffs” or “Have you seen how bad Seguin has played this year?” Address the FULL concept after you tell everyone your number.

    • bman7206 - May 26, 2013 at 8:16 PM

      Wow what an extremely long post. You should try going out with girls sometime.

      • hockeyflow33 - May 26, 2013 at 10:34 PM

        Do you type with one finger? It really doesn’t take long for most people to type a couple paragraphs.

    • nunan - May 26, 2013 at 9:03 PM

      Besides being too long..your entire statement is based on your own assumptions and not on fact..Nothing you said is correct…literally…nothing. The REAL problem, bigdaddy, is you. You’ve obviously made up your mind about CJ so no matter what he does, you look at it in a way that supports your own whacko point of view….Facts are fun!

      • hockeyflow33 - May 26, 2013 at 10:31 PM

        What facts are you talking about? Just look at how Julien rode Kessel while he was here and how he’s flourished in Toronto. Seguin is not the same goal scorer but fairly similar.

      • nunan - May 26, 2013 at 11:30 PM

        Hockeyflow: I guess I’ll go through every point…but then I look like just as much of loser as big daddy bc of how long the post must be to effectively use facts to dispute all that BS. These are the FACTS you asked for.

        – Iginla wasn’t trying to avoid CJ. He said he wanted to play with a team he felt had the best chance at a cup which he feels is Pitt. He actually said that…I didn’t come to that conclusion on my own. Who can blame him? To assume that he was just trying to avoid Julien’s system is BS…completely made up with no evidence to support such a claim..it’s a made up reason for bigdaddy bc he clearly hates Julien. Nothing more to it.
        – Comparing Jagr to Iginla and saying Iggy has more points bc of the system he is another BS statement. Jagr is 41, Iginla 35. Pitt has the best offense in the league. Anyone who plays with Crosby, Neal, Malkin, etc is going to have good numbers. But, no, it must be CJ’s fault. With all that said, Jagr has had SO many great chances to score and he hasn’t buried them. Bigdaddy has to actually watch the games to know that though..Let’s forget about Krejci too…I mean he just leads the playoffs in points. Horton is tied for 5th or something. Bigdaddy has selective facts. That entire line dominated the first round and put up points against the Rangers.
        – Seguin had 67 points last year, only his second year in the league. But ya CJ holds him back..it has nothing to do with Seguin.
        – Krug has been incredible, as we all know. But again, bigdaddy acts like Krug was the next coming of christ and everyone knew it, but CJ ignored that and kept him in providence? Nobody expected him to perform this way… Again, let’s ignore that CJ keeps putting out there, and has put him on the powerplay…let’s just focus on some made up BS that CJ ‘kept’ him in providence this year and then predict the future by saying he’ll hold him back next year and squash his real abilities. More BS…not factual at all.
        – Also, the whole stanley cup thing was lucky. Anyone who actually says that a team was lucky to win a cup is a whack job. So, they won in spite of CJ, in spite of the owners, and TT carried them the entire way..nobody else played a part…not the playoff leading Krejci, the heroics of Horton, the proven system CJ implemented, the team depth, etc. Nope. Let’s ignore all that and just find a way to pile on CJ.
        – Bruins have finished 13th, 3rd, 5th, and 2nd in goals per game during CJ’s tenure yet idiots like bigdaddy ignore facts because he can’t think for himself. Instead he made his conclusions years ago and figures out ways to look at things so that they support his misguided perspective.
        Truth is, literally, all you need to do is look at results. The Bruins have consistently been a competitive team since CJ took over. They’ve made the playoffs every year, almost won the President’s trophy one year, won the stanley cup, are in the ECFs this year, etc. Nobody has any reason to complain. Watch…if Seguin gets hot, somehow it will be in spite of CJ. Remember in the 2011 run when they forced teams to switch goalies bc they were scoring so many goals? All in spite of CJ…Playing in another ECF this year…because teams can make it that far in spite of their coach…right..it’s all luck.
        There is no disputing facts.

    • andrewproughcfe - May 26, 2013 at 9:25 PM

      I’m a #12 – a guy who thinks you just violated every rule on how not to be an idiot on the internet. You should write a book – “Big Thoughts by bigdaddy”. Self publish and sell it out of the back of your car. Let us know how it goes.

      Other than that, you had some good points. Definitely agree that Julien’s system will be their downfall this year. Bruins are trying to slow everything to a crawl during the playoffs – some aggressive team with a high skill level is going to torch them. Either the Pens or the Kings, probably.

    • hockeyflow33 - May 26, 2013 at 10:29 PM

      I think I found my twin brother! I couldn’t agree more. How many points would Iginla have if he was playing with Kelly and Peverley?

    • greenmtnboy31 - May 27, 2013 at 7:50 AM

      Some very good points bigdaddy, right on the money, which is why so many of these Bruins women are on hear crying about what you said. Your comments have hit a little close to home for them.. Let’s face it, the Bruins wanted Iginla bad, real bad and then ended up holding the bag because he wanted nothing to do with them. Iginla isn’t a dummy, go back to the interviews at the time, particularly the one with Ron MacLean, and you’ll see he was avoiding Boston as much as he wanted Pittsburgh. Boston was and is Jagr’s only option and we’re seeing one. He’s nothing close to what he once was and is somewhat of a liability. He has no stamina and the game has passed him by. Get a good look now, because this is the last we’ll see of a one incredibly talented Jaromir Jagr. The Bruins ended up with egg of their face by losing out on Iginla and they thought they could save some face with Jagr, but they are only looking dumber for the move every time he steps on the ice. Jagr doesn’t wear down the D, he’s the one who is worn down. Chiarelli should just shut up, he’s looking like a bigger fool than he is when he says crap like that. I’m going with your option 3 based on the responses you have received. These Bruins fans are just a bunch of nitwits, but we really already knew that part of the equation. You have to compare Jagr & Iginla since those were the two everybody thought someone should go after. Now, we’re seeing the Pens were the smart ones and took the only guy with anything left in the tank. I’m a huge Jagr fan over the years, but he’s done, put a fork in his career. Thanks for the memories Jaromir, especially that play against Vancouver a few years ago, but it’s time to hang them up you’re just embarrassing yourself and making Julie-Ann & Chiarelli look like the fools they are.

    • crybabycrosby - May 27, 2013 at 6:27 PM

      Mediocre he says ha so what when this “Mediocre” hockey club slaughters the penguins are you going to say its a fluke?

  8. govtminion - May 26, 2013 at 8:36 PM

    Already tired of the Iginla thing… he went to Pittsburgh, end of story. We have two of the best teams in the league about to go head to head, do we really need to find extra drama in this beyond what we already have?

  9. daneizer - May 26, 2013 at 8:53 PM

    Wow Big Daddy you’re awful full of yourself . Let’s see I’ll be a number 4 . That would be some one who thinks you are full of sh%t . Try moving out of your mothers basement and get a life .

    • hockeyflow33 - May 26, 2013 at 10:32 PM

      I’m curious why you’re posting on the same message board and we should assume you don’t live in your mom’s basement?

  10. johnnyd76 - May 26, 2013 at 9:09 PM

    Does it really matter which team did what to acquire the personnel they deemed necessary for a strong playoff run?

    Chairelli and Shero went out and got who they needed (within the set cap structure) – which is their job. It appears both were successful, as these teams will face each other in the finals. Now it’s up to each of the coaches to implement a game plan they think will be an effective strategy against the other. More importantly, the players must execute the plan. We’ll find out which team will be worthy of representing the Eastern Conference after the puck is dropped and the series is over.

    This is will be one heckuva series! I will not pick a winner, although as a PENS fan I’m definitely pulling for the Penguins. Hopefully, we will see some outstanding hockey – may the best team win!!!!

  11. drone501 - May 26, 2013 at 9:12 PM

    you would think this being the eastern final would be the story, not who was traded to pens or bruins. its the eastern finals, knuckleheads. i think anyone could be a hockey writer.

  12. bigdaddy44 - May 26, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    andrewproughcfe,
    Thanks for the beat down, your assessment of me is almost dead on. I love to stir things up. Thanks you also for taking the time to respond with an intelligent response to the hockey subject that shows you have a brain in your head.
    Unfortunately the others that enjoy just bashing me (deserved), cannot respond with any hockey knowledge of their own. You did miss one thing though, I will be selling my book out of the back of my MOTHER’s car!

    • andrewproughcfe - May 26, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      That’s the only way to do it. You go, bigdaddy! You’ll be pimping that book on David Letterman before you know it.

  13. LampyB - May 26, 2013 at 10:57 PM

    I agree seguin wont hit his potential under juliens system, i dont see how you can argue this. Julien however, is still a great coach and knows which strings to pull when it counts.

  14. 8man - May 26, 2013 at 10:59 PM

    Chiarelli has done a fabulous job obtaining and retaining talent. The last three years are testament to such.

    That being said, I only care about what happens on the ice. That is, essentially, all that matters. Go Bs!

    • nunan - May 26, 2013 at 11:37 PM

      That is a simple and accurate way to look at things..not everyone has that ability. Instead, they come up with reasons to complain about a team and a coach who have won a cup and are back in the ECFs this year.

  15. ebergevin - May 26, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Pink hat here! All jokes aside…

    Seguin himself has said he’s uncomfortable playing Center at the NHL level and we’ve already seen that to be true.

    I agree about the Julien assessment partially. No coach has ever succeeded in any sport, professionally at least, by strictly sticking to their system. It’s up to the coach to adjust the system to fit the personnel and that’s exactly what happened in 2011. It’s easy to draw the parallels between the two squads and I think that’s why Julien refuses to adhere so much is because it won a cup in the past.

    I think back to even the first round series and many media figures thoroughly ripped Julien because he kept skating the same lines with mixed success. In his defense though, the system allows your goaltender to make easy plays (something which I think other teams should employ), but time and time again we’ve seen stagnant scoring from the B’s. It’s infuriating sometimes.

    The only truly infuriating thing about Julien and his system is the lack of success on the power play in recent years. The personnel is not the problem, it’s the deliberate approach and wasting possessions by dumping and chasing so frequently. There’s some very skilled puck handlers on the Bruins and it wouldn’t hurt to let them carry and create rather than being so scripted.

    Julien and his stubbornness is his own worst enemy.

  16. bigdaddy44 - May 27, 2013 at 11:33 AM

    Thank you for all of those who posted thoughtful, knowledgeable points in response to my lunatic rant, whether you agreed with my assessments or not.
    Then there is nunan, did you sleep well last night? A perfect trifecta of a 1,2 and 3 all rolled into one. He accuses me of selective facts, yet through his lack of depth, he takes my points out of context and twists them to suit his misguided attempt to defend his feelings. I won’t bother with a point by point, you still wouldn’t understand. Take heart nunan, we both want the Bruins to win the Cup, and then I will gladly lay down my arrogance, and accompany you to the parade. After that we can go to the Sox game and sing Sweet Caroline in the bleachers with all your friends (pink hat). Then we can go to your house and have your Mom cook us dinner (too young to understand). Then, we can joyfully skip down your Cambridge street to your ‘Stop Global Warming’ support group (dumb ass). Then, I will give you a free years’ pass to all of my hockey clinics. I’m done, time to have my Geritol, change my Depends and take my nap. See you at the parade. Love, Dad.

    • nunan - May 27, 2013 at 11:48 AM

      So if they win TWO cups…theeeenn you’ll be happy. One cup wasn’t enough? We all know you’ll still be the same old bitter person no matter what they do. As for the rest of your post, it is (once again) completely lacking any facts. It was just some random rant about pink hats and geritol. Do you think that helps your argument? Saying a bunch of stuff about nothing? Good for you. Stick with that losing strategy and I’ll continue to own you with facts.

  17. bigdaddy44 - May 27, 2013 at 1:09 PM

    nunan123, my sweet boy. Once again you have failed to pay close attention to my words. That is why your mother and I were so disappointed when you couldn’t even get points on your SAT’s for filling in your name properly. I said that I would not bother going through your selective, cherry picked, then twisted to fit your argument ” facts”. You still will not understand. You will see that the other respondents, even if they did not agree, UNDERSTOOD the individual points. You, honey, because of your blind love of Claude and our beloved Bruins, understood ZERO. Remember, when you were a boy, Dad was the smartest man in the world. When you hit your teens and 20’s Dad knew nothing. When you finally grow up and have a family of your own, you will realize that Dad was right, and we will see over the years if you become man enough to admit it. As for now, hold on to that blind love, enjoy the playoffs, and stop pissing off your mother. Don’t be disrespectful to her, show up in time for dinner, and stop making so much noise when you come home trashed at 3 in the morning. Please don’t lose sleep over our dispute son, I still love you. As for your last post, you have it backwards. It is I who own you. Your ever loving father, Big Daddy.
    P.S. Don’t forget your sister’s birthday coming up, I will never hear the end of it.

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