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Discuss: Penguins knock off the Senators in Game 5, headed to conference final

May 24, 2013, 10:27 PM EDT

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The Pittsburgh Penguins are on to the Eastern Conference final, and they appear to have found their stride in this second round.

The Penguins knocked off the Ottawa Senators by a final score of 6-2 on Friday night, closing out the Eastern Conference semifinal in five games.

Here are some talking points.

  • The Penguins advance to the Eastern Conference final for the first time since 2009, when they won the Stanley Cup. Just saying.
  • Is this the final National Hockey League game for Daniel Alfredsson? The Senators’ captain is 40 years of age and a pending unrestricted free agent this summer.
  • If this is Alfredsson’s last game, let’s have a look at the numbers: regular season games played (1,178); goals (426); assists (682); points (1,108). Impressive.
  • Adding salt to the wound, James Neal scored the hat trick goal to put Pittsburgh up 6-2 in the third period. And it was a beauty, with the toe-drag around Erik Karlsson. He now has five goals in his last two games.
  • The Penguins, in the final two games of this series, scored 13 times.
  • In 2009, when the Penguins won the Cup, they did not win a single series on home ice. In 2013, in the second round, they put an end to the Senators’ season at home.
  • Former teammates with the Florida Panthers, Tomas Vokoun outplayed Craig Anderson between the pipes in this series.
  • Who is next? The New York Rangers or Boston Bruins? It’s looking like the Bruins.
  • Canada’s lone remaining NHL team is out. Who do Canadians cheer for now?
  1. killerpgh - May 24, 2013 at 10:29 PM

    8 down. 8 to go.

    • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - May 24, 2013 at 11:28 PM

      Break time…..power nap…..recharge for the ECF!!

      Let’s Go Pens!!!!!

  2. american44hero - May 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    James ‘makes your mom’ Neal.

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:59 PM


  3. benrob99 - May 24, 2013 at 10:32 PM

    Alfie: “Told you so”.

  4. holtbeast - May 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    The only way I could be more bored by a conference final would be if it was Panthers vs. Jets.

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:44 PM

      There’s always basketball for you!!!!!!!

  5. sjsharks66 - May 24, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Is Boston advances (which i believe they will. Sorry rangers fans..) they need to play like they did against the Canucks. Physical style hockey. Draw penalties by frustrating the pens.

    Tuuka has been letting in some fluky goals lately. That can be a HUGE problem against a Penguins team that cannot stop scoring.

    This possible series is going to be great.

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      You mean Boston diving there way to a cup

      • nunan - May 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

        Haha. Good one! No..that’s not what he means.

      • ucaneverscorenoughgoals - May 24, 2013 at 11:31 PM

        Haterz is right!

    • JoeAvg - May 24, 2013 at 11:39 PM

      Pittsburgh always plays well against Boston and even better against the Rangers. Either way I think they are coming out of the East.

  6. taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 10:36 PM

    LOL. They gave Secondary Sid a secondary assist on the Neal PP goal. Another nail in the coffin for the “metric” (and I use that term loosely) known as “points”.

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

      How bout that hat trick BRO. Nothing secondary bout that….DB

      • taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

        Horrible defenses and crap goalies.

      • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM

        Yup and those players make millions of dollars and have a winning record…I.E. qualified for the playoffs. Watch Crosby light up Boston too

      • jpelle82 - May 25, 2013 at 12:19 PM

        yup horrible. hat trick against a norris trophy winner and goalie with the best save% in the league this year.

    • footballfan - May 24, 2013 at 11:03 PM

      Awwwww… Poor wittle baby gonna cry…. Ovie’s still golfing…

    • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      Hey tainted Ottawa head coach called Crosby the best player in the world after this series, and he’s nominated for coach of the year. When’s the last time a coach has said that about ovechkin? Crosby leads the league in GOALS this post season. How did ovechkin do again? 16 penguins had more points then ovechkin going into tonight’s game, with only 4 more games played. 16 out if 23. End of discussion. Beat it troll.

      • taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 11:27 PM

        Crap goalies.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        Haha did you see Anderson coming into this series? Your a joke for a troll. All you have is crapp goalies??? Hahaha. Thanks for the laugh bud.

      • taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 11:37 PM

        Crosby isn’t even needed on his team. Teams can focus on Ovi, and only Ovi. Teams have to worry about Crosby…and his teammates. When was the last time a Caps player other than Ovi got a Hattie in the playoffs? Team sports aren’t played in a vacuum. Better teammates, better numbers.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:40 PM

        I’d say ovie had a pretty good team when the caps won the presidents trophy and he still couldn’t deliver for that team. He’s a choker and Crosby shines in the biggest stage, see Olympics, see NHL, see junior college. Crosby’s a winner, ovechkin is not.

      • taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 11:45 PM

        Ovi was lights out in those playoffs. Green disappeared. Semin disappeared. Horrible goal tending.

        You are confusing team accomplishments with individual’s not your fault. You’re just a product of sports media.. Crosby shines? That’s why Malkin had to carry him. Malkin has the Conn Smythe.

      • theageofquarrel - May 24, 2013 at 11:47 PM

        So should Sid just retire since he isn’t needed on the Penguins?
        Should the Penguins issue a statement saying they were foolish in drafting Crosby because all he gets is secondary assists?
        Should Crosby say he isn’t worthy of playing in the NHL because he doesn’t score as many goals as the great Alexander Ovechkin?

        Please tell us what he needs to do to satisfy every hockey fan around the world!!!!

      • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:49 PM

        Haha your embarrassing yourself. Crosby had 3 points less then malkin that year in the post season. Malkin has called Crosby the best player in the world for the past 4 years. If your argument is malkin is better well even malkin disagrees with you. Your a joke for a troll.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:55 PM

        Crosby in the post season 78 GP 40 goals 65 assists 105 points. Ovechkin 58 GP 31 goals 30 assists 61 assists.. Let that sink in. Last time I checked backstrom was a good center.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 24, 2013 at 11:57 PM

        That second assists was supposed to be points but I’m sure you knew that. No way ovechkin could have 61 assists.

      • taintedlombardis - May 24, 2013 at 11:59 PM

        Never mind the football scores in last year’s series with the Flyers. Or Nabakov. Inflated.

      • taintedlombardis - May 25, 2013 at 12:02 AM

        Goals>>>assists. Secondary assists are a joke. Why stop there. Tertiary, quaternary should all be points. He’ll, just give the whole team a point.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 25, 2013 at 12:03 AM

        Ovechkin plays in the southeast division. Is that really your argument? Nabokovs # ‘s in the playoffs before that series were real good. Great players make goalies look bad.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        Crosby still has more goals in the post season then ovechkin and double the assists. Your a joke hahaha.

      • taintedlombardis - May 25, 2013 at 12:05 AM

        You’re right, Ovi could never have 61 assists. His teammates can’t shoot for sh!t. Backstrom is a product of Ovechkin.

      • taintedlombardis - May 25, 2013 at 12:08 AM

        You’re talking about one series for Ovechkin. Against the greatest goalie in the world. Ovechkin lapped Crosby in goals this season. Crosby only played 12 less games. Ovechkin could probably not play for the next 3-5 seasons and Crosby still wouldn’t touch his career goal totals.

      • pitpenguinsrulez - May 25, 2013 at 12:10 AM

        Tainted your truly becoming a royal asshole with the crap that you post on here. Individual success means more than Stanley Cup success? Last I checked winning a championship means so much more than winning an individual trophy. Instead of making yourself sound more stupid on here why don’t you go wail on yourself to your Ovie fathead! #stupid

      • sportsfreak13 - May 25, 2013 at 12:12 AM

        Haha I’m done trying to point out the obvious to you bud. I’m glad your not a pens fan. Have a good night. Thanks for the laughs.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 25, 2013 at 12:14 AM

        By the way I think it’s funny how you always thumb up your own comment. Someone’s gotta agree, am I right.

      • sportsfreak13 - May 25, 2013 at 12:16 AM

        Ovechkin probably won’t reach Crosby career post season goal #’s because he can never lead his team. I’d you say goals over assists I say postseason over regular. Now I’m done. Later.

      • hawkeedawg - May 25, 2013 at 3:27 AM

        I speak on behalf of all posters on the site.

        You are a complete joke. I could write a book on all of the idiotic posts you’ve made, but I won’t waste my time. Here are just afew points. (No assists, just points)

        Ovie would never have the goals #’s he does if he didn’t get the passes, he is not good enough to skate through 5 players and score all by himself.

        On another thread you said to someone “I have been watching hockey since before you were born”, well not one of your posts would indicate that, NOT ONE POST.

        On a post with me, you said I provided no facts, well I did give you lots of facts and even a link to prove my point.

        I asked you to prove your point many times, but you just disappear or spew more of your verbal diarrhea.

        PHT mods, you have to get rid of this guy, he is by far the worst troll ever seen on these pages. Please get rid of him.

        Posters, Thumbs up if you agree with getting rid of Tainted!!!

      • 2jivecrew - May 25, 2013 at 1:08 PM

        The world according to Taintedlombardis (and all other Caps fans): Any time the Caps have success it’s all because of Ovie. Any time they fail, it’s everybody else’s fault. LOL. Yeah, 2 points in 7 games……Ovie was “lights out”. Especially when his performance gave rise to THE GREATEST gif of all time, the now famous “Controller Disconnected” gif.

        I came in here specifically to taste Taintedlombardi’s delicious tears of jealousy. I knew he’d be here.

    • fbothharbaughs - May 25, 2013 at 10:57 AM

      & Backstrom still has time to make even more crappy Geico commercials…

  7. blackandyellow71 - May 24, 2013 at 10:42 PM

    I know I have a rooting interest but I think either Pens B’s or Pens Rags will be a great series. Won’t take long for the hatred to develop.

  8. myroncopesflask - May 24, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    I don’t care what team you root for or how much you hate the Pens. Somebody and I mean anybody please try to make a rational argument as to who really is going to beat the Pens 4 out of 7 games? I keep trying to convince myself that maybe the Kings could beat them with their size. That size is too slow.. This team is too deep.. Maybe the Pens lose 4 more games the rest of the playoffs. Maybe…1975

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:47 PM

      The wings are playing great. Kings as well too. But I see no one hanging with the PEnS. But a lot can happen over A 7 game series

      • myroncopesflask - May 24, 2013 at 11:00 PM

        45 goals in 11 games when the playoff average for total goals in a game is 5 is pretty impressive. In this era where scoring is about 1/3 of what it was in the 80’s and 1/2 of what it was in the 90’s 4 goals a game is pretty nasty! 1975

    • phillyphanatic77 - May 25, 2013 at 5:32 AM

      If there’s one team in the East that has a chance against the Pens, it’s the Bruins. Slight chance, but still a chance. Even before the Bruins started rolling, I thought they would provide the biggest hurdle for Pittsburgh (despite the regular season results). The Rangers would have no shot. Boston can roll out 4 lines, their defense can play two-way hockey, and, when he’s on, Tuukka Rask is elite. The Pens are clicking on all cylinders right now so I wouldn’t bet against them in the ECF’s, but Boston would atleast have a chance to take it 6 or 7 games.

      As for the West, I think the Kings have a legitimate shot to repeat. Chicago looks dead in the water, but they probably wouldn’t beat LA anyway. JQuick is just unbeatable right now. Neither the Blues or the Sharks have the firepower of the Pens but there’s nothing that can carry you to a Cup like elite goaltending. And that includes offensive firepower. The way the Kings play D it’s almost impossible to get consistent, quality scoring chances. And when you do, Quick shuts you down. Of all the teams in the playoffs, LA has the best shot to hold off Pittsburgh. That would be an epic matchup though.

      • drone501 - May 25, 2013 at 9:27 AM

        if they even make it to the finals.

  9. myroncopesflask - May 24, 2013 at 10:46 PM

    Honest question for somebody with a brain. What team since the Pens 91-92 roster has had this much talent? OK what team since the Oilers had this much talent? 1975

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 10:48 PM

      Oilers averages 4.5 GPG. …..

      • cheesesteak75 - May 25, 2013 at 8:27 AM

        Different rules back then, too many opportunities to create 4 on 4 hockey. The NHL changed the rules because of the clear advantage it gave a team, like the Oilers. Proof by the 2 goals scored by the Pens last night when it was 4 on 4. Teams with excellent offensive talent thrive in 4 on 4 situations.

  10. myroncopesflask - May 24, 2013 at 10:49 PM

    Erik Karlsson how does it feel to have Neal’s mockery of your defensive skill as the last memory of your 2013 season? 1975

    • laxman1944 - May 25, 2013 at 6:16 PM

      This EXACTLY why you are such a Putz.

      Pitt did a great job and put them down.

      But you just can’t help rubbing it in……….

      True winners are humble in victory.

  11. csilojohnson - May 24, 2013 at 10:51 PM

    More hate…
    You are killing your future job opportunities. Might want to stop making yourself look so dumb.

  12. polegojim - May 24, 2013 at 10:55 PM

    Sens were playing tentative and scared from the drop of the puck.

    They weren’t ready to play and completely psyched out. Should have just forfeited.

    Wish I could get those few wasted hours of my life back.

  13. pizzano7416 - May 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM

    That goal by Letang was just unreal!!! He is one of the few defensemen in the world who has the offense skill to score a goal like that.. Neal’s hat trick was just sick as he finally broke out, 5 goals in 2 games, after being shutout prior. The Pens D the past 2 games has been shocking its been so good, Paul Martin really blazed on both sides of the ice. Matt Cooke played like a man possessed. And let’s not forget Vokoun!!! The guy has just been amazing, his confidence level right now is thru the roof, so happy he is in goal for the Pens. His save % since he took over for that bum MAF is just amazing. Pens will be flying high with some nice rest going into the East finals.. Great confidence on both sides of the ice!! Anderson was the best goalie in the NHL all year, and besides for 1 game the Pens touched him.

    The BUZZSAWWW that is the Pittsburgh Penguins is just doing what they do.. LETS GO PENSSS!!!

  14. steelers88 - May 24, 2013 at 11:13 PM

    Great win by the PENS! I think the Bruins and Rangers basically play the same style of hockey though Boston is better than New York. I wish Alfredson would come back for another season but I don’t see it because of the full 82 game schedule. I think Canada pulls for the Penguins only because of Crosby.

    • haterzinc - May 24, 2013 at 11:38 PM

      Wow you say something biased for once….congratz

  15. whammy71 - May 24, 2013 at 11:14 PM

    I hear the NHL’s engraver got to work after seeing the Pens last 2 games.

    If any Cryer fans wanna know what a Cup parade is all about…come on out in about a month or so!

  16. djamesbart - May 24, 2013 at 11:32 PM

    Try to imagine how painful it must be for a Caps fan to watch the Pens put on that display of hockey prowess.

    • drone501 - May 25, 2013 at 9:28 AM

      hell with the caps. what about the flyers. lol

      • phillyphanatic77 - May 25, 2013 at 12:11 PM

        It is difficult since I hate them with every fiber of my being. However, as a fan of the sport I can appreciate watching the most talented team I’ve ever seen. And I can say that as I was born right at the tail end of the Oilers Dynasty.

      • jimeejohnson - May 25, 2013 at 1:37 PM

        phillyphan: you represent your fan base a lot better than the haters. Last time I checked, Pittsburgh was in the same, great state of Pennsylvania as Philadelphia.

  17. pitpenguinsrulez - May 24, 2013 at 11:43 PM

    What more can I say other than the Pens proved once again why their the best team in the league. They make Craig Anderson look like a back up goalie in the last two games. The series should’ve been over in 4 games had Ottawa not stolen game 3. It’s great to see Jigalo Jimmy…aka James Neal get the hat trick. His 3rd goal was all him and he made Karlsson look stupid again in this series.

    As for a certain Bruins fan on here that says the Bruins can beat the Pens because their more physical lets take a look at some numbers. The Pens have won 6 straight games vs. Boston and 8 of the last 9. Plus the teams were both fairly close in hit totals this season. Also if you look at the last game we played against Boston we beat them without Crosby and Malkin in the line up. Also what happened the last two times the Pens played Boston in the playoffs? 1991: Pens win series 4-2 as Boston cries about Neely & 1992: Pens sweep Boston 4-0 enroute to back to back championships. …But let’s not forget that the Bruins still have to worry about the Rangers tomorrow.

  18. djamesbart - May 24, 2013 at 11:50 PM

    It makes my heart feel good to read idiotic arguments made by a weeping Caps fan.

    • pens5829 - May 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM

      And the dude promised he’d stop posting on Pens articles. What a horrible way to go through life? Obsessed with hating a sports team/ city.

  19. Stiller43 - May 25, 2013 at 1:01 AM

    Good luck with ovi, taint. Every other non IDIOT on the earth earth will take someone else, because ovi has ZERO skills as a leader, and save for half a season this year, has been absolute garbage for 2 years now.

    • hawkeedawg - May 25, 2013 at 4:13 AM

      Tainted can’t see, understand, realize, rationalize any of the facts because he never backs up what he says………ONE BIG CRYBABY WHINING 6 YEAR OLD ON MOM’S COMPUTER. He likes to use big words to impress, but his utter ignorance just shows he has no clue what so ever about the game of hockey.

      Talk about a sucky HOMER

  20. hawkeedawg - May 25, 2013 at 4:18 AM

    I was actually a Volunteer at the 2010 Olympics for Men’s hockey. I had the privilege of working in the dressing rooms with every National team.

    Ovie was the biggest pain in the ass of the whole tournament.

    After games, players would often give us sticks, (I have 19), but Ovie did not give one away, in fact, after they got eliminated, he smashed his sticks and took a torch to them.

    Very Classy, just like Tainted, a big sore LOSER

    • phillyphanatic77 - May 25, 2013 at 6:04 AM

      Wow that’s quite a nice gig. Doesn’t surprise me at all. Ovi seems like he would be a self-centered clown off the ice. Just as he is on the ice. Dude’s such a waste of talent. Based on pure skill, he could be one of the greatest. However his lack of dedication and inability to elevate those around him will forever taint his legacy (unless he miraculously changes). And tainted realizes that so he takes his frustration out on Crosby. You can hate Crosby, as I do, but failing to recognize his greatness is just sour grapes. The whole “secondary assist” argument is laughable. The rewarding of the ‘secondary assist’ hasn’t changed since the 40’s, which means all great modern players have had equal access to them. Demeaning Crosby for gathering secondaries would equate to demeaning Gretzky, Lemieux, Messier, Coffey, Oates, etc, etc. It’s an illogical argument.

      • ironman721 - May 25, 2013 at 8:19 AM

        Agreed! Assists are vital! Assist = unselfish hockey. Secondary assists = a commitment to team hockey. Goals look great on sports center and they are the required to win but if you are a great player and you don’t make the other players around you better then come playoff time you are playing golf by THIS TIME. Ovi is a great 1 trick pony and until he changes his selfish ways he we never hoist the cup. Caps fans can just sit back and enjoy the rest of the playoffs, just like you Captain is.

  21. benrob99 - May 25, 2013 at 7:13 AM

    Wait…. So you’re saying that trolls on here use irrational arguments???

  22. theageofquarrel - May 25, 2013 at 7:29 AM

    Taint is Eiggles

  23. lp0320 - May 25, 2013 at 9:36 AM

    Awesome game last night. Seeing the entire team work for nearly the entire 60 minutes was great. For the haters of Crosby, let’s look at his contributions: 1) an unselfish player – do you really think Kunitz would have the numbers he does w/out Sid? He creates opportunities every time he is on the ice and sometimes passes more than he should. 2) he works both ends of the ice, all of the time. He doesn’t hang out at center ice waiting for the perfect feed. 3) he hustles all of the time – did you see the play last night when he got knocked down going into the offensive zone, and skated on his knees to still make the play? The man leads by example.

    You may not like him because he makes most teams look foolish, but you cannot question his talent or leadership. To do so makes you a liar and shows your lack of knowledge about the game of hockey.

  24. joematthews22 - May 25, 2013 at 12:20 PM

    I’m actually surprised (legitimately) that there’s somebody (even if it is a capitals fan) that still thought there was even an argument to be made for who was the best player on the planet (and that argument wasn’t between crosby and malkin). If there’s an argument to be made I think you can entertain Malkin as the best player in the world above Sid (or at least more naturally talented). There really isn’t even a legitimate way even a capitals fan could still think Ovechkin is a better player than Crosby. It seriously doesn’t even make sense and I’m not trying to be an ass or sarcastic. Ovechkin is a very very good player and fun to watch but he’s not in the conversation anymore and hasn’t been for a couple of years. It’s Sid and everyone else, however if Malkin had Sid’s ambition and drive ALL THE TIME, not just when he wants to, he could be the best in the world. I’m sooooo happy in that draft we had to “settle” for Malkin after Ovie was selected 1st overall…..

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