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Sutter: Quick ‘can’t be frustrated’

May 20, 2013, 11:02 AM EDT

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Jonathan Quick has avoided supplemental discipline after abusing officials at the end of Game 3.

He didn’t avoid discipline from his head coach, though.

On Sunday, Darryl Sutter told the LA Times that Quick couldn’t have any more meltdowns like the one on Saturday night.

“I think he’s got to handle that,” Sutter said. “He can’t be frustrated. That’s a byproduct of being a great goaltender.”

Quick was dinged with a game misconduct immediately after San Jose’s Logan Couture scored the game-winning OT goal. The goalie was also peeved at the amount of contact he was receiving in his crease.

After Couture scored, Quick skated directly towards the officials to voice his displeasure about a pair of penalty calls that put the Kings down two men to start the overtime session (the Sharks eventually scored at 5-on-4).

According to Rule 39.5 of the NHL Rule Book, a game misconduct for abuse of an official may be subject to supplemental discipline.

The NHL’s Rob Shick, assigned to this series as supervisor and officiating manager, told the Times via email that Quick wouldn’t be fined nor suspended and that “this matter has been dealt with.”

That didn’t seem to change Sutter’s stance on the issue any. He stressed that it can’t happen again.

“It’s very simple,” Sutter said. “That’s part of being on a good team and looked on as the best player and looked on as a top goalie.

“You have to learn to manage it, because it can’t become a distraction to your game.”

  1. pirovash88 - May 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I can see the frustration, but calls like that are going to happen all of the time. At the end of the day we didn’t kill the penalties that cost us the game. Time to get back up and ready for game 4, didn’t expect to sweep the Sharks anyways. Sharks need to win a game away in this series and i don’t see that happening anytime soon.

  2. qauzaq - May 20, 2013 at 11:37 AM

    I agree with Sutter. Whether it was a bs penalty or not, you just gotta keep focus on the game

    • garyhd01 - May 20, 2013 at 3:39 PM

      previously sharks fans were claiming the delay of game penalty call was bogus now we claim a 5 on 3 was wrong begins to look like maybe the refs made a make up call am I the only one seeing it that way??

  3. cac0277 - May 20, 2013 at 12:23 PM

    I agree Quick can not get frustrated, but someone will have to start hurting their guys if the make contact with our goalie. Someone is going to have to see this and say, hey, we can’t let our goalie get like this. It rest with us and there will be nobody touching our goalie getting him out of shape. Quick is the balls and shaft of this team. We go how he goes. GKG!!!

    • rebel21das - May 20, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      Maybe if Quick didn’t come out so far of the crease every time the puck is around him he wouldn’t get hit, I know I know rational thinking for most Kings fans is quite difficult.

  4. rebel21das - May 20, 2013 at 12:43 PM

    Funny after all the crying the Kings did after game 3 the only fine or punishment is $200 docked off Quick’s massive paycheck, must be nice to be the NHL’s darlings of the far West.

    • pirovash88 - May 20, 2013 at 12:53 PM

      At least our franchise didn’t write a letter to the league stating how “grossly unfair” Quick’s game misconduct was.. Haha.

      • titansrbeast - May 20, 2013 at 1:14 PM

        Maybe that’s because there’s just a small difference between being suspended for a whole series and being fined $200. That’s like what, a ps3? To even post a comment like this is absolutely hilarious to me.

      • hockeyflow33 - May 20, 2013 at 1:44 PM

        You do know that the fine was rescinded because someone said mean words whereas Torres severely injured someone, again.

      • rebel21das - May 20, 2013 at 2:33 PM

        That’s because the NHL leaves them be, and why would they be mad about 200 bucks that’s chump change to them, but I guess it’s hard to take off those Kings fan goggles.

    • hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 1:23 PM

      Gosh, I know, two whole times in two playoff seasons the Sharks had more penalties called on them instead of their opponents. What a horrible injustice! I mean, the Sharks have had 36 power plays in 7 games (the only team in the playoffs averaging more than 5 per game) while the Kings have had 24 in 9 games. God, will this favoritism in favor of the Kings never end?

  5. sjsharks66 - May 20, 2013 at 1:11 PM

    Yeah but if the NHL followed their own rules and didnt make exceptions for star players, the Kings would have done the same thing.

    Acting as if it was quick that got ran at the end of the 3rd period. The worst he got was a taste of Burns ass. Maybe he wont go so far out of his crease next time.

  6. sjsharks66 - May 20, 2013 at 1:38 PM

    Who cares about PP. id rather have the sharks kill off 6 penalties a game if it meant not losing a game and losing a key player over controversial calls.

    The kings have had a slap on the wrist for “abuse on an official” the sharks so far have been 1.cheated out of a win 2.lost a key player for a whole series. 3.got hit with a 100k fine for disagreeing with the league.

    • hockeyflow33 - May 20, 2013 at 1:47 PM

      1. How are wins guaranteed?
      2. Stoll is out for the series as well
      3. What do you expect will happen when you severely criticize your employer?

    • dannymac17 - May 20, 2013 at 5:48 PM

      wow @ cheated out of a win. so delusional

  7. hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 1:55 PM

    Cheated out of a win? Please, just shut up. Stuart tripped Toffoli without ever making contact with the puck (or, through your teal glasses, hit him in the shoulder) and then Vlasic cleared the puck up into the stands (or, through your teal glasses, it hit Carter in the shoulder). The Sharks didn’t kill the penalties, *EITHER* of them, and earned their loss.

    Now in game three, Regehr hooked whoever it was (or, I suppose, he hit him in the shoulder if I borrow your glasses) and then Lewis got called for interference (even though he hit Niemi in the shoulder!). The Kings killed one penalty, didn’t ever get under control for the second, and earned their loss.

    The difference between “abuse on an official” and “write a press statement whining about the league’s supplemental discipline” is also, unsurprisingly, not equivalent for those of us not wearing the teal blinders. The penalty for “abuse of an official” is set at $200. The penalty for a press release complaining about the discipline *STARTS* at $25000, and then was bumped up because it was defending an indefensible act that the NHL has repeatedly tried to get out of the game.

    Oh, and “losing a key player?” I realize you wouldn’t give two craps about Jarret Stoll, since he’s won a Cup and therefore couldn’t be on the Sharks, but losing a guy who is a key faceoff and penalty kill guy is far more serious than losing a guy who two postseasons in a row gotten a hefty suspension for headshots, after having previously built up a resume of headshots. The only thing you lose without Torres is the chance that he might then take out Kopitar or Brown or Richards or Carter – but if the Sharks somehow win, then he’ll be right and ready to take out someone else. But, hey, he “reformed” long enough to avoid targeting an opponent’s head for about two thirds of the length of a normal season – let’s throw a party!

  8. sjsharks66 - May 20, 2013 at 2:09 PM

    Nice rant. I never said the stuart trip was a bad call. It was the right call. However making a call about a possible deflection where one ref says no and the other says yea in a game that is 3-2 with 2 minutes left. That is a little absurd. Where as lewis charging into niemi was more obvious.

    I will leave my “teal glasses” on. They look pretty good on me. But i am a hockey fan overall. If something should have been called and wasn’t i will agree that it should have been. If a hit is illegal i will agree with a punishment.

    The one thing i don’t agree with is how the rule book clearly states discipline for abuse on an official can occur, then the NHL decides “well this is the playoffs. Tempers run high. No harm no foul. Plus, are we reallllly going to suspend a star goalie? I mean, it is in the rules….change the rules!” That is BS! The rules can be tweaked to HELP a star player but when it was Torres the rules were tweaked to PUNISH a player. Rules are rules. I dont understand how you kings fans dont understand that.

    Torres hit stoll. This is hockey after all. He made contact with his shoulder and the follow through contacted the head. That is why stoll has a SHOULDER AND HEAD INJURY. The only reason the kings are saying the head is the main injury is because they cant come out and say his shoulder is worse. That would just prove to you idiots the NHL made a bad call.

    I don’t know why we even argue with you tools. Just sit back and enjoy watching brown dive, knee and elbow players all the way to the cup again. Oh but wait, i forgot…. Brown is a realllllly clean player. According to 99% of kings fans.

    • pirovash88 - May 20, 2013 at 2:15 PM

      Yeah cause Couture totally didn’t elbow Brown in the face in Game 2 after he scored a goal.. Right, Brown in the only dirty player. What a load of crap!

    • hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 2:53 PM

      Tell you what – you say the rules are changed to protect Quick, then why don’t you link to a single article where a player was given a game misconduct for verbal abuse of officials and then had a suspension or additional fine imposed. Now, of course, you’ll find some cases in the minors/juniors where there’s been actual *PHYSICAL* abuse of officials that have been given suspensions, and that of course is indefensible. Hell, Quick’s actions are indefensible – and he was punished exactly the way the rulebook specifies – seems to me you’re upset that they’re not ignoring the rule book and going harsher because you don’t like him.

      As far as the delay of game penalty – the default should always be that you can’t call something you don’t see. If the official with the best view of the play does not see the puck hit anything, he can’t very well pretend it did. The officials got together, as good officials do, and either they determined that it clearly did not hit anyone, or determined that the one with the best view didn’t see it hit anyone and nobody was in good enough position to overrule that. And if you have to go frame by frame to find where the puck grazes off Carter and can’t even find conclusive proof of that, then you have no call whatsoever to complain about the penalty being given – because refs are supposed to call what *THEY* see, not what you want them to see.

      And Torres absolutely made principal contact with Stoll’s head. He brushed by his shoulder on the way there, but if he had hit Stoll clean in the shoulder, Stoll would have been bumped sideways and Torres’ momentum slowed or stopped. And I would have accepted any injury from that as being a clean hit, as it would have been – but that’s not what happened and I think it’s pathetic that you can’t even acknowledge that. No matter what pull you think that the Kings have with the NHL (and they’ve been more penalized than their opponents in these playoffs, imagine that!), Gary Bettman’s not out there suspending the laws of physics to make Raffi Torres look like a bad guy. The dude skated in front of Stoll’s shoulder on the way to hit him in the head, and while there’s an argument that could be made and I might even believe that it wasn’t his intent, intent doesn’t matter when it comes to checking the head.

      So, to review, I agree, RULES ARE RULES. But when the rules say that supplemental discipline “can” occur doesn’t mean that it will or necessarily should – it’s a judgment call, and if you want to complain then find me that link for supplemental discipline being imposed for that situation and we’ll talk. The rulebook said that Trevor Lewis could have been given a Major for goalie interference – in as much as there is a major penalty for that, but the referees used their discretion to not make that call (and decided he wasn’t pushed into Niemi either, as is their discretion). Vlasic could have been given a major or double minor for his cross-check fest on Brown, but they decided to call it as a roughing minor (which I think was the right call as well, though I would have taken more!). And the rules of the universe are such that if Torres hits Stoll with the primary impact being shoulder to shoulder, Stoll goes horizontally and Torres slows down. Conservation of momentum and all that – but of course that’s just NHL bias too.

      • hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 2:59 PM

        And let me correct myself – I don’t remember if Vlasic ever had his stick make contact with Brown above his shoulders, which would have been required for a double-minor (or if it got called spearing or butt-ending, which I definitely don’t recall). But a boarding major was a theoretical possibility within the rules, though of course as I said I wouldn’t have expected or even agreed with that call.

  9. sjsharks66 - May 20, 2013 at 3:48 PM

    Yeah you are Gary. If you think going full steam into a goal tender is a make up call. Then you would be correct. I would call it not being disciplined. Just like with Stuarts trip in game 2.

    • hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 4:16 PM

      Gosh, I never called it a make up call. Heck, I didn’t even call it a bad call – I’ve said that none of the four penalties involved in making up the five on threes were unjustified. My Kings homerism made me hope that the Lewis one might have been ruled incidental or that he might have been pushed into Niemi, but I’m not complaining about that call. You see, when you look at things with the intent to see the truth and not just what you want to see, sometimes you learn to accept that what you see is really what happened. Try it sometime!

  10. rebel21das - May 20, 2013 at 4:00 PM

    I just love the fact that the Kings can do no wrong and the Sharks are always getting away with something when they start playing more physical with the Kings, which is something the Kings do themselves very well but in game 3 the Sharks really took it to the Kings and now there’s all this talk about missed calls and the Kings penalties are unjust and blah blah blah blah, the only reason Sharks fans were mad was because Torres was suspended for so long based on his past not on the hit, and yeah it stinks Stoll was hurt but did that really warrant Raffi being tossed from the series just because he made a solid hit while Stoll looked down, sorry the video doesn’t lie he hit Stoll from the shoulder and because he rocked Stoll and his head kicked back from the momentum and was really hurt the response from the league is “We’ll suspend Torres for the remainder of the series”. Plus the missed call when the puck clearly changes direction after it hits Carter but these things happen and like Crosby said those plays need to be review-able, but what I don’t like is the influence all the Kings players had once they all started pointing and yelling that the puck clearly was tossed out, topped on the fact that Quick cries every time something doesn’t go his way even though he hits Sharks players with his stick when they skate around his net. Regardless thus far its been a great series, with two very good teams, in the end we’ll see who comes out on top and I’ll end with this, the sword cuts both ways my friend.

    • hrudey - May 20, 2013 at 5:00 PM

      You’re right – video doesn’t lie. A player skating forward, impacted from the side, does not end up going backwards. A player skating to make a hit on the shoulder does not glide through if he hits the player square on the shoulder. In any universe where the laws of physics pertain, it is impossible for the way you’re describing the hit to have occurred, barring any other outside forces that nobody has yet claimed. It might not have been a full series suspension for someone else, I agree, and it might not have been a case where he intended to hit the head, but the thing with that rule is it doesn’t have to be intentional, just the principle point of contact and targeted – Torres came at him from far enough for the hit to be called charging (other side of the faceoff circle) and the primary motion impacted from the hit was to his head. And when it happens to a guy who hasn’t even made it fifty games since his last head shot knocked an opponent out of the playoffs, he’s going to get penalized harshly.

      I mean, really, a player leaning forward, moving forward, hit from the side and his head “kicked back from the momentum”? Come on, you have to know better than that – something has to impart force in a front-to-back direction to reverse Stoll’s momentum.

      On the delay of game, listen to the call here again: http://prohockeytalk.nbcsports.com/2013/05/17/video-vlasics-controversial-delay-of-game-penalty/

      You’ll find that the announcers say that the referee *IMMEDIATELY* pointed to the penalty box, while they say that “it looked to me like the linesman thought maybe it was deflected.” Amazing how all that “pointing and yelling” by the Kings influenced a decision that had already been made! And I’ve watched the video probably 20 times now and there’s never a shot where it’s “clear” the puck changed directions – the first time when you see it live, the camera is relatively still and it looks like he forked it right up. The first replay (the one where the guy says it looks like it might have deflected) the camera moves back and forth – just watch the lines on the outside of the faceoff circle by where Doughty is at from the time Vlasic starts to launch the puck until it’s out and you’ll see why that replay is dubious at best.

      • rebel21das - May 20, 2013 at 6:15 PM

        Pretty sure I still see three Kings players with their hands up in the air before the whistle blows maybe I need to watch it 30 times to make sure. Also….

        “A player skating forward, impacted from the side, does not end up going backwards. A player skating to make a hit on the shoulder does not glide through if he hits the player square on the shoulder. In any universe where the laws of physics pertain”

        That is nonsense I’ve played my fair share of contact sports and watch them as well and if someone knows how square up to hit well you can make a hit look a lot worse than it really is, Stoll was also skating at a angle and as stated in Newton’s third law: That when one body exerts a force on a second body, the second body simultaneously exerts a force equal in magnitude and opposite in direction to that of the first body. So you’re forgetting about the fact he’s (Stoll) head was down, and in physics we all know that every reaction (Stoll head looking down at the puck) has an equal or opposite reaction, Torres smashing Stoll in the Shoulder from a side angle, thus the head jerking backwards.

      • hrudey - May 21, 2013 at 12:01 PM

        Yes, and if Torres exerts a massive force to Stoll’s shoulder, why does Torres continue on gliding in front of Stoll to make contact with his head? Wouldn’t there be some sort of “equal and opposite” force applied? But that’s not what happened, is it? Torres slid by Stoll’s shoulder with a glancing blow, while the primary force of the hit was to the head and chest of Stoll.

  11. dannymac17 - May 20, 2013 at 5:50 PM

    sjsharks66 is one delusional poster.

    he always bashes the kings and comes up with excuses why his team always comes up short. always.

  12. loyallakingsfan35yrs - May 20, 2013 at 8:21 PM

    “sjsharks66 is one delusional poster”

    You also noticed it. ..eh?

    I’m sure the Sharks will be doing everything possible to under Quicks skin..

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