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Kings coach Sutter calls Torres hit ‘careless’

May 15, 2013, 4:19 PM EDT

Raffi Torres Hits Jeret Stoll Reverse Angle -Western Conf. Semifinal 5.14.2013 - Created at

Kings coach Darryl Sutter thinks the hit San Jose’s Raffi Torres laid on Los Angeles forward Jarret Stoll on Tuesday evening was “careless.”

Sutter, however, balked when asked if it was worthy of a suspension.

“Who are we to even talk about that stuff?” said Sutter, per LA Kings Insider. “I totally leave it to the league and principals to look at those things…It’s just frustrating to see that, that’s all.”

Frustrating, because Stoll is “missing in action” and it’s not known when he’ll be able to play again.

“He’s a really good player for us,” said Sutter. “He was a big part of winning a Stanley Cup and a really good centerman and a guy who plays minutes, plays special teams. So obviously our player is quite a bit more important than theirs.”

Yesterday, Sharks coach Todd McClellan said he thought the hit was “clean,” and not even deserving of the minor penalty for charging that Torres received.

Torres also thought the hit was legal.

The NHL may disagree though, as Torres has an in-person disciplinary hearing in New York tomorrow.

Whether you believe Torres made Stoll’s head the principal point of contact or not, it’s worth noting that Ottawa defenseman Eric Gryba was suspended two games for not making “enough of a full-body check” on Montreal’s Lars Eller in the first round.

Torres is also a well-known repeat offender.

  1. ibieiniid - May 15, 2013 at 4:23 PM

    yeah because that’s what pulverizing hockey hits on other players are missing these days…. care.

    it sounded like a joke until i read it in type. then it became true.

  2. jjregan21 - May 15, 2013 at 4:32 PM

    I feel like Thonton’s comments are more on point

    • manchestermiracle - May 16, 2013 at 11:27 AM

      When I was six years old I was taught not to hit people in the head. But hey, whatever, go with the apologist for claiming it’s Stoll’s fault for having his head in line with Torres’ shoulder.

  3. sjsharks66 - May 15, 2013 at 4:33 PM

    He is going to leave it up to the league. Ha

    Because his star player FINALLY got suspended for something. To bad they miss all the other cheap things the kings do.

    Thumbs down begin….now!

    • rocoop - May 15, 2013 at 6:58 PM

      Torres will be gone 2 games minimum…Quit your crying!!

    • chicagohawksfan66 - May 15, 2013 at 10:19 PM

      what a frikking baby. sj dove all round 1, cheap shots galore and now you get a taste. WAAAAAHHHH. Bohica buddy.

  4. sabatimus - May 15, 2013 at 4:38 PM

    Thornton is exactly right. I find the positioning of Stoll’s head to be much more careless than the positioning of Torres’ shoulder.

    • manchestermiracle - May 16, 2013 at 11:23 AM

      Good sarcasm, even if hardly anyone else got it.

  5. valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 15, 2013 at 4:41 PM

    Oh! Seen from this angle it is a reckless hit. Blind sided hits are very dangerous. Coming from the blind side reduces the size of your target, and at the speed these guys move it’s very difficult to get the body dead on. Two games for Torres for a blind sided hit with the head being the principal point of contact.

  6. r4n6er - May 15, 2013 at 4:44 PM

    As will all disciplinary hearings the “victim” will be MIA during the process forcing Shanahan to suggest that an apparent injury was suffered on the play and increase the punishment. After the punishment the magic will happen where the “victim” who was devastated, will return to play…

    • ron05342 - May 16, 2013 at 2:01 AM

      Keep trying to predict the future, moron.

  7. rrino - May 15, 2013 at 5:00 PM

    I gotta say that from this angle it does look a little more like a head shot. Whether that was his intention or not, Torres will not get the benefit of the doubt.

    As for the comment about Gryba not making “enough of a full-body check”, how much of that is on player getting hit? After all when you see someone coming at you about to lay you out, you are gonna try get out of the way as much as possible. Not saying this is what happened in this hit or the Gryba hit, but if they are gonna scrutinize how much “body” is getting hit during these questionable hits then they will also have to take into account the evasive actions of the player getting hit.

  8. cameltoews - May 15, 2013 at 5:22 PM

    In the gif you can clearly see his head is the first body part to be hit so it’s pretty simple. Head shot. Since he is who he is and apparently will never change it should be 5 games. That’s about what it will take to win the series.

    • stakex - May 15, 2013 at 6:03 PM

      Its impossible to tell from that gif exactlly where he hits first. The head reacts more then the body does… so it could just look like he hits his head first.

      Even then, if this is a “head shot” then the pansification of hockey is complete. Might as well be baseball.

  9. schlitzy - May 15, 2013 at 6:18 PM

    I’ve never liked Raffi Torres, but this is nitpicking. keep your head up and on swivel.

    • lovinthatsomanyhateonnd - May 15, 2013 at 6:21 PM

      lol anytime they get hit, the kings cry foul..anytime they lay a dirty hit, like Browns knee on knee against the Blues (he stuck his knee out intending to hit the guys knee and hurt him), its suddenly ok..bunch of babies

      • windmiller4 - May 15, 2013 at 11:25 PM

        Dont act like the kings are the only team that does that. I can Guarantee that whatever your team is does the exact same thing.

  10. lovinthatsomanyhateonnd - May 15, 2013 at 6:20 PM

    LMAO ya Sutter, and what do you call Browns intentional knee on knee hit against a Blues player??? (among his MANY other dirty shots)

  11. joelwrobinson - May 15, 2013 at 6:51 PM

    Joe Thornton summed it up best. Anyone who has every played hockey agrees.

    • rocoop - May 15, 2013 at 7:01 PM

      Shanahan has played the game?? Right..?? I want to see you in the comment section when Torres suspension comes down…..

  12. ashtongronholz8 - May 15, 2013 at 7:48 PM

    People complaining about these type of hits are going to ruin the game. It was a fine check, let’s not evolve hockey into what football is becoming. I love the game because its fast, physical and isn’t swamped by the media (yet). As a player suck it up and go score a goal to shut the other team up.

  13. dmfc1112 - May 15, 2013 at 8:46 PM

    It sure looked like a good, hard shoulder to shoulder hit last night watching the game. His name is Torres and he doesn’t have the correct jersey colors so Shanny will probably give him 5.

    Meanwhile, good old Shanaban completely ignored Kris Letang cross-checking a linesman at the end of game 4 which couldn’t be more of a textbook call.

  14. rgledz - May 15, 2013 at 9:06 PM

    If Brown chicken wings somebody in the head is that “careless” too coach??? Last time I checked your captain is as chippy as they come. This is why I think Sutter is a douche. Case closed.

    • ron05342 - May 16, 2013 at 2:03 AM

      He’s got a Cup, and your douche doesn’t.

      Kings Douche 1, Sharks Douche 0. Case closed.

  15. manchestermiracle - May 16, 2013 at 11:25 AM

    Just wondering if all you “keep your head up” yahoos even looked at the video. Stoll’s head is obviously up when Torres drills it. That’s okay, Thornton is just as blind as y’all.

    • snewter99 - May 16, 2013 at 5:28 PM


      Question to the “clean shoulder-on-shoulder” gang:

      If Torres cleanly gets Stoll in the shoulder (whether only, or firstly), then from this video angle above …
      1) WHY does the white/teal of Torres jersey clearly continue all the way across Stoll’s body, covering up the LA crest? Wouldn’t it have mostly stopped (or at least slowed down a bit) at the right-shoulder-point of impact?
      2) And how can it be that he ALSO makes contact with Stoll’s LEFT (far) shoulder … as you can clearly see here?
      3) Are you saying he hit the right shoulder (firstly), then continued through to ALSO hit Stoll’s left shoulder (secondly) and somehow along the way- then made a bee-line around Stoll’s chin/head?
      4) And if that miracle-hit happened – what made Stoll’s head twist/spin violently like a top between the R and L shoulder hits?

      Answer: he missed the right shoulder almost entirely, he drove the chin, and continued to the left shoulder.

      Head Shot.
      End of Story.

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