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Ducks captain Getzlaf: We knew MVP candidates would be all East

May 10, 2013, 1:41 PM EDT

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Ryan Getzlaf wasn’t surprised to learn that neither he nor Chicago captain Jonathan Toews were named finalists for this year’s Hart Trophy.

Not surprised at all.

“We were pretty well aware it was going to be all East this year,” Getzlaf told ESPN’s Craig Custance. “That’s just the way it is.”

Getzlaf led the Ducks with 49 points in 44 games this season — pacing Anaheim to the third-best overall record in the league — while Toews was Chicago’s second-leading scorer (48 points in 47 games) while captaining the club to its first Presidents’ Trophy in over 20 years.

Yet when the voting results were made public, neither Getzlaf nor Toews was a finalist.

Alex Ovechkin, Sidney Crosby and John Tavares were announced on Friday as the three nominees — and Getzlaf has a theory on how that came to be.

“The only time the media in the East sees anyone in the West is when we play them,” he explained. “You’re not going to see our games, the media, staying up to 1 or 2 in the morning to watch.”

The Hart Trophy is one of five awards voted on by the Professional Hockey Writers Association, along with the Selke, Vezina Norris, Calder and Lady Byng.

This year, according to Custance, 46.4 percent of voters were from Eastern Conference cities, 32.8 percent were from Western Conference cities and 20.8 percent were from an international chapter that doesn’t cover specific teams.

Custance also noted that a record 178 PHWA members voted this year.

  1. steelpenbucs87 - May 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM

    Getzlaf has a much smaller axe to grind in my opinion than Kane, Toews, or maybe in Datsyuk, in my opinion.

    • jimthebear - May 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      Better choices than Ovi and Crosby

      • steelpenbucs87 - May 10, 2013 at 1:57 PM

        Getzlaf? No shot. The other guys I mentioned – possibly, but Ovi and Crosby had special seasons.

    • hockeywithdrawal - May 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM

      I think he has a valid point though, it’s rare to get to see very many WC games at all for me (which is why I like the playoffs – there’s way more of them on).

      Seems to me this year is a little abnormal with the shortened season and not as much time to show separation in many cases – most of the nominees for Hart/Norris/Lindsay came right off the top of the points leader board, with the exception of Stamkos for Lindsay b/c St. Louis was already nominated and neither Tampa Boy got nominated for the Hart (prob. b/c of the team’s finish).

      Either way – only way to fix it is to start their games earlier (not going to happen), mandate that at least one WC player be nominated (not going to happen), or tell NBC to put more national coverage on the WC games on weekends. I’d love to see a lot of those teams play more.

      • bmscalise - May 10, 2013 at 4:31 PM

        One can debate who is up for the award – especially in a shortened season. But if this is – boohoo – “eastern media bias” – why did the players also vote 3 from the East (and two of the three the same as the writers)?

        Maybe these result are just because:
        1) Sid is clearly the best player in the world and would have been the unquestioned winner without the injury.
        2) Ovie finished on fire – and there’s always a bias toward guys who end the season super hot (just like Perry when he won), versus those who start really fast and slow down a bit (like Stamkos and Kane).
        3) Toewes and Kane were the most likely to warrant attention in the west – but probably split the vote playing on the same team. Lots of media members who released their ballots had one of these guys on theirs.

        But, of course, conspiracies are always more fun than logic.

  2. sens101 - May 10, 2013 at 1:52 PM

    or maybe it’s becaue you aren’t and legitimate MVP candidate? lol

    • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

      more legit than tavares…better numbers, didnt make the playoffs last year and won the division this year

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 2:37 PM

        Ryan, Perry, Selanne, and Fasth/Hiller >>>>>>>>> Moulson, Boyes, and Nabokov

        They put up similar numbers but their supporting casts were not even close. Toews and Datsyuk have the same issue. Crosby wouldn’t have been nominated had he played every game and won the scoring title by 2 points. His point per game total was just ridiculously higher than anybody else in the league.The same point per game difference between Crosby and #2 is the same difference between #2 and #30. If Getzlaf has a problem with not being nominated he should blame his teammates for being too dang good!

      • sens101 - May 10, 2013 at 3:14 PM

        yeah man tavares has been tearing it up with very little help and without him that Isles team would be drafting first overall this summer. I think that those three were legitimately above the rest of the players this season. Dont get me wrong Getzlaf is a great player but not as good as tavares crosby and ovi, this season anyway.

  3. jimthebear - May 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    This is complete BS.. Another popularity contest.. Why don’t they give it to the person who sold the most merchandise for the NHL, because that’s what this is. There really isn’t any Bruin I honestly would say is a top 3 player, so I’m not being a homey, but Ovi sucked for half the year, and Crosby MISSED half the year.

    • steelpenbucs87 - May 10, 2013 at 2:19 PM

      Half is an exaggeration for Crosby – he missed a quarter of the season, and his production during the 3/4 he was in was absurd – extrapolate it over a full season and he was staring at a 130 point season.

      Crosby will win, Toews or Tavares probably should.

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 2:43 PM

        I think Ovechkin will win. More goals and he’s on a worse team. When the voting took place 2 of the hottest topics were how Ovechkin was going to win the rocket richard and the Caps were on top of the world, and how the Pens were fairing just fine without Crosby. If I had to place a Vegas bet on it, I’d say Crosby will win the Lindsey, Ovi will win the Hart.

      • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 3:24 PM

        i agree crosby for lindsay, ovechkin for hart – though i dont think ovechkin was on a worse team than tavares – he had nik backstrom feeding him pucks

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 3:56 PM

        By that I meant he had more goals then Tavares and was on a worse team the Crosby. Tavares didn’t win anything else and I’m not sure the Hart has ever even gone to anybody who didn’t at least win one other award such as the Art Ross/Lindsey/Rocket Richard/Vezina/Selke/Norris. Unless by the graces of the hockey gods Tavares somehow pulls a Selke nomination, let alone win, out of his butt he’s got a slim to none chance of taking it home.

      • jrhawk - May 11, 2013 at 9:38 AM

        It’s amazing how these “hockey fans” are totally out of it. Do any of you understand what MVP means?? It’s not the point production, ffs!!!
        Read: Most Valuable to his Team. Meaning how important he is to the team.
        Crosby shouldn’t even be considered. The Pens can and have won without him. In short, just not that important.
        If this is what you base your votes on, why didn’t Stamkos win with his 60 + goal season?
        If popularity was an award basis, you guy’s would even have Crosby winning the Vezina.

      • steelpenbucs87 - May 11, 2013 at 9:56 AM

        Jrhawk – did you read the last sentence? I said Crosby is going to win, but that Tavares or Toews should win as they are the most valuable. I was only talking about the point production from crosby because Jim seemed content to brush off Crosby because he missed half the season.

      • mmmpierogi - May 11, 2013 at 11:07 AM

        “Crosby shouldn’t even be considered. The Pens can and have won without him. In short, just not that important.”

        In other words, the only way a player should be considered is if he played for a team that was total garbage on any given night that the player didn’t suit up. Seems like a reasonable criterion for gauging someone’s importance or contribution.

  4. wingsdjy - May 10, 2013 at 1:53 PM

    This is sad but true. East coast will always get more media exposure.

    • jimthebear - May 10, 2013 at 1:54 PM

      Its not east coast as much as popularity contest. East coast is coincidental.

    • steelpenbucs87 - May 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Don’t disagree with this – just the nature of the time zones I suppose, more eyes on the East coast games, equals more highlight packages and more coverage.

      I do feel for the guys on the west coast on a lot of these awards, but I don’t have an issue with the three finalists.

    • mmmpierogi - May 11, 2013 at 11:18 AM

      Since 1999-2000, half of the people who’ve won the Hart are from the Midwest or from parts further west in the country. How is that evidence of bias?

      Pronger Blues 99-00
      Sakic Avalanche 00-01
      Forsberg Avalanche 02-03
      Thornton Sharks 05-06
      Sedin Canucks 09-10
      Perry Duck 10-11

  5. taylorgang24 - May 10, 2013 at 2:00 PM

    Crosby had like 10 more points than any of these guys and he missed 12 games. It’s not even a question of who the best player is so who cares about the MVP anyway. He turned Kunitz and dupuis into top 10 in the NHL and scoring. The MVP talk is irrelevant cause no one can touch the kid

    • cspuck7 - May 10, 2013 at 2:42 PM

      MVP means Most Valuable Player, and though I agree Crosby is an amazing player and had those ridiculous numbers despite missing games, the fact that he missed those games and the Pens kept ripping off wins proves that he’s not the most valuable. If you interpret it this way, I think that Taveres, Ovi or Toews have a larger impact

      • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 3:28 PM

        crosby is most outstanding or most valuable in the league – you put him on any other team and he wins it every year. the only reason you could say he isnt hart worthy is because the hart is for the most valuable to his team.

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM

        You need to give a lot more credit to Kane, Keith, Hossa, Sharp, Crawford, and Emery. Not a bad bunch to call your teammates…..

  6. comeonnowguys - May 10, 2013 at 2:02 PM

    Toews will never get MVP, sadly. He plays in the west, and he doesn’t make the plays that make SportsCenter’s Top 10.

    Hell, look at the 2010 he had, and he didn’t even get a single mention in SI’s year-end-issue.

  7. 19to77 - May 10, 2013 at 2:05 PM

    Not that I’d have shortlisted Getzlaf for this particular year, but the man’s got a point. Last year, Quick beat Lundqvist in every statistical category during the regular season (well, tied for save %) on a much weaker team (that started the season so badly they had to replace their head coach), but got snubbed for the Vezina simply because Lundqvist plays in New York and gets more media exposure. Jim hit the nail on the head – it’s a popularity contest. This is just more of the same.

    • nikolainyr - May 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM

      Vezina voting is done by GMs and not media. Media bias doesn’t play in.
      Western GM votes were split between Rinne and Quick, which left Vezina to Lundqvist.

      • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 2:38 PM

        pretty sure you’re wrong, in fact it says right in the article that the vezina is one of five that is voted on by the hockey writers association.

      • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 2:42 PM

        scratch that, you’re right, i just checked – mike halford must be wrong. please forgive

      • greatzkys - May 10, 2013 at 2:46 PM

        I’ll bet that Quick was much more satisfied with the Con Smythe Trophy.

      • 19to77 - May 10, 2013 at 2:54 PM

        Fair enough. Point taken.

      • Mike Halford - May 10, 2013 at 8:10 PM

        Mike Halford was, in fact, wrong. It was a typo/brain fart. Meant to say Norris, not Vezina. Awards season clogs the brain. Anyway, it’s been updated. Good catch tho.

  8. ron05342 - May 10, 2013 at 2:13 PM

    Couldn’t care less, really.

    Been watching the East still the West’s thunder for 45 years, why should it change now?

    Nevertheless, 4 out of the last 6 Stanley Cup champions have come out of the West.

    How ’bout them apples, East writers? 😉

    • nhbsfan - May 10, 2013 at 2:34 PM

      What’s your point? Stanley cup winners since 2000 have been 6 out of the East, and 6 out of the West. I’m not sure one more win in the West over the past 6 means much of anything in determining East vs West superiority…

  9. ethanmacleod1685 - May 10, 2013 at 2:18 PM

    Getzlaf didn’t deserve the MVP anyway lol

  10. tdrusher225 - May 10, 2013 at 2:21 PM

    Ryan, answer me this. Do any of those three not deserve to be there?

    • 19to77 - May 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM

      Yes. Losing Crosby didn’t even slow the Penguins down – how can he be the MVP of the NHL when his team doesn’t even strictly need him to win? Meanwhile, Ovechkin took half a season off in a season already cut in half by the lockout. He only played about 20 great games – does he deserve the League MVP for that? I think not.

      • 2jivecrew - May 10, 2013 at 5:00 PM

        Because Crosby was the best player in the league this season by an absolutely HUGE margin. It’s not even debatable.

      • tdrusher225 - May 10, 2013 at 11:43 PM

        As much as I love Toews, Kane, and Getzlaf and would like to see them get recognition, the guys who were nominated do deserve to be there. Ovechkin was the league’s best player in the 2nd half and the driving force behind the Caps division win, Tavares is the primary reason the Isles are in the playoffs, and Crosby was the league’s best player on the league’s best team. This award has often been handed out to the league’s best player every year. I’m not saying I agree with it, but that’s the way it is.

    • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 3:03 PM

      better question is why are you talking about it when you should be focused on game 6?

  11. chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 2:59 PM

    Bobrovsky probably would have won the dang thing had Columbus made the playoffs. If he had squeaked in I didn’t see a situation where he was passed over.

    If anything he should just be pissed that the West just has better structured teams. He plays with an MVP winner in his own right (Corey Perry) and a great goalie tandem that is one of the tops of the league. Selanne is a legend and Ryan didn’t have too shabby of a year, either. Those guys aren’t really a product of Getzlaf in the way Boyes and Moulson are a direct product of Tavares.

    • jpelle82 - May 10, 2013 at 3:15 PM

      tavares only had 19 assists and 40% of those assists were pp assists, he wasnt helping anyone but himself. if it were an 82 game season moulson was on pace for a career low in goals (25) since he’s been a regular starter and boyes scored a whopping 10 – on pace for another sub 20 goal season. in fact boyes and moulson both had more assists than tavares by a lot (25 and 29 respectively), if anything he had a better supporting cast getting him to his 28 goals – and lets face it, the 28 goals are the only reason he is in the conversation.

      • chanceoffleury1 - May 10, 2013 at 3:46 PM

        If you think the only way a guy can influence his teammates is by setting them up for goals then I guess we have very different opinions on how a guy can influence his team. I can speak for the Penguins when I say I can’t tell you how many times the Pens reference Crosby’s work ethic pushing the rest of the team to work harder. Just being on a team with somebody great makes you want to be better and work harder to compliment them.

        How many of Moulson and Boyes’ assists were on Tavares goals? Not everyone can just be spoonfed goals. Sometimes a great finisher like Tavares makes the setup guy look better because he himself is so good. It is no different then Crosby turning somebody like Kunitz into a league leader in scoring, Tavares can turn Moulson and Boyes into assist machines. Moulson and Boyes might not have been scoring goals, but Moulson was on pace for a career high total in points and Boyes put up a higher point per game pace then he has in years and one of the highest of his career. To even insinuate that Moulson or Boyes are on the same wavelength as Perry or Ryan is ridiculous. Perry is only 2 years removed from his own Hart Trophy, in fact. Ryan was on pace for one of his worst years in goal scoring, too, so your Moulson argument is even more ludicrous since at least Moulson was still on pace for career high totals in points because of Tavares. Perry and Ryan have such a significantly higher ceiling than Moulson or Boyes. If that’s not true then I guess an even trade of Moulson and Boyes for Ryan and Perry with nothing else but the 2 players attached to each side would just be a-okay with Anaheim, no? Bob Murray would have to have a serious drug problem to accept that trade.

  12. cfischeraz - May 10, 2013 at 5:15 PM

    It will get worse next year with the realignment.

  13. manchestermiracle - May 10, 2013 at 6:42 PM

    I don’t have much use for individual awards in a team sport. In hockey, my criteria pretty much begins and ends with “Did you get your name etched on the Cup?”

    • lostone49 - May 10, 2013 at 7:25 PM

      That is all that really matters in the end, isn’t it?

  14. jimw81 - May 10, 2013 at 9:33 PM

    it is a valid point. writers are too lazy to stay up extra two – three hours watch a game on west coast. I think they should also not count the votes that come from the Philadelphia Flyers beat writers. they know nothing about hockey.

  15. critter69 - May 10, 2013 at 9:39 PM

    Time to call the waaaaaaambulance for the West Coasters.

    • jrhawk - May 11, 2013 at 9:42 AM

      That’s all you got? Pitiful.

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