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Discuss: Rangers overcome Caps’ comeback, even series

May 8, 2013, 10:14 PM EDT

NEW YORK, NY - MAY 08: Ryane Clowe #29 of the New York Rangers celebrates a goal by Carl Hagelin #62 (not shown) at 10:13 of the second period against the Washington Capitals in Game Four of the Eastern Conference Quarterfinals during the 2013 NHL Stanley Cup Playoffs at Madison Square Garden on May 8, 2013 in New York City. (Photo by Bruce Bennett/Getty Images) Getty Images

This was a game that saw some dramatic shifts in momentum. The Rangers took a two-goal lead, only to cough it up and then later regain it. Washington attempted one more comeback, but ultimately fell short in a 4-3 loss.

The Capitals have squandered their 2-0 series lead as it’s all even going into Game 5 on Friday.

Here are the talking points:

  • Rangers forward Rick Nash has been struggling in his second career playoff series. He has one assist and a minus-one rating in four games.
  • The Washington Capitals lost Martin Erat early in this one after a dangerous three-player collision
  • The New York Rangers absolutely dominated on the draw with an 64% faceoff success rate.
  • Rangers forward Ryane Clowe returned from a suspected concussion tonight and ended up with an assist and four hits in 12:19 minutes of ice time.
  • Five different players scored their first goal of the series tonight. Overall, 16 different players have scored a combined 19 goals in this series, so clearly neither team has a single player or line that’s been leading the offensive charge.
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  1. Steve B - May 8, 2013 at 10:17 PM

    I know this site and the rest of the media would love to claim that NY has reclaimed the series, but it is far from over.

    • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 10:31 PM

      Chimera gets called for a penalty at the end of the second period for a questionable interference call. Then gets cross checked three seconds after the goal, and nothing gets called…. Seems legit

      • stakex - May 8, 2013 at 10:45 PM

        Well, 10 years I would fully agree with you. Back then, it actually took something above and beyond to call a penelty in the playoffs.

        In todays NHL though, that was just a completely idiotic move on Chimera. No reason to even touch the Stralman in that situation, because once he feels the stick all Stralman has to do is hit the ice like a sniper shot him and its an automatic call.

      • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 10:48 PM

        Agreed. I’m not completely blaming the zebras. Fact is, the Caps have been outplayed these last two and it hasn’t been close. Typical CAPS. They get a lead, they sit back, and it bites them square on the ass!

      • blockedshotnyr - May 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM


      • nebbah306 - May 9, 2013 at 3:12 PM

        Only questionable call was the double penalties to Erat and Ovie. Ovie’s hit looked clean to me. Chimera absolutely cross-checked Stralman and interfered with him in the process, it was the right call. Fact is if Nash scores in Game 2 instead of hitting the post, the series would be over tomorrow. Instead, its going to be an intense 3 game series.

        Holtby must be sure glad he said those comments after Game 2, giving up 8 goals in the next two games

  2. biffnasty - May 8, 2013 at 10:18 PM

    Solid team effort..we got ourselves a series again..if Nash gets out of his funk, Rangers will be hard to beat

  3. taintedlombardis - May 8, 2013 at 10:20 PM

    Check out the power play disparity in Madison Square Garden. Is the NHL adopting the WWE model?

    • stakex - May 8, 2013 at 10:49 PM

      Perhaps its just that the Rangers out played, and out skated the Caps over these two games and thus drew more calls? I would also point out that the Rangers were the least penelized team during the season… so it makes sense they have taken less then the Caps.

      • caponslugger - May 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM

        When the PPG disparity is that much, whether the refs intentionally did it or not, and they only lost by 1 goal, that is not complete domination.

    • tfaltin - May 8, 2013 at 11:18 PM

      The Caps also had multiple PPs in the first period and didn’t do anything with them. From there the Rangers took over.

  4. mp1113 - May 8, 2013 at 10:21 PM

    You’re not in trouble till you lose on home ice. Always a great series between these two. Gotta get better on the dot though caps.

  5. holtbeast - May 8, 2013 at 10:22 PM

    How bout that time when the Caps were called on charging and hooking at the same time when neither penalty actually happened?

    • dohpey28 - May 8, 2013 at 10:27 PM

      Erat broke his wrist because he was holding/hooking and Ovechkin left his feet to make the hit hence the charging call.

    • stakex - May 8, 2013 at 10:50 PM

      The hooking happened, but the call on Ovechkin was weak at best.

      • johnstone17 - May 9, 2013 at 8:32 AM

        Yeah, I was a bit surprised when they called Ovechkin on that.

    • blockedshotnyr - May 8, 2013 at 11:38 PM


  6. jkay1818 - May 8, 2013 at 10:25 PM

    How come there is no mention of ovechkin yet? The guy has maybe, maaaybe 3 shots on goal total the past two games and his lone goal was off a freak carom off the boards that landed right on his stick for an open net.
    Hats off to holtby, although he gave up 4 goals, it could have easily been 7 or 8. The caps put on a mad rush with about 7 minutes to go but the Rangers put on an onslaught most of the game. Holtby made this into a nail biter.
    This is the 4th or 5th goal this series that bounced off a man in front and bounced in off a freak deflection on lundqvist. It isn’t even puck luck at this point. The NYR need to do a better job at clearing men out in front of the net to avoid pucks bouncing off of helmets, caroms plopping off of ovechkins sticks or pucks bouncing off skates.
    This series is turning out to be exactly how most knowledgable fans predicted, tight.
    Last rangers victory were caps fans whining how horrible the rangers are and they can’t believe they lost. now it is a brand new series, caps are great against the NYR at home in the postseason. basically they just have to hold serve.

    • barkar942 - May 9, 2013 at 12:35 AM

      More importantly, take a look at the Rangers 4th goal and be schooled on “How Not To Back Check” by Alexander Ovechkin.
      He just stands about ten feet inside the blue line and watches the play unfold right before his eyes because he is too worried about hoping the puck will bounce to him so he can get a fast breakout.

  7. Stiller43 - May 8, 2013 at 10:33 PM

    Chimera DID get a cross check, but that was some pathetic acting with the flop and then touching his face “checking for blood” when be was hit in the arm.

    They probably decided to give no penalties rather than 1 to each of them for cross checking and embellishment.

    • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 10:50 PM

      I find it funny that Penguins fans come out of the woodwork to criticize embellishing calls…..

      • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 10:50 PM

        Who do you guys think you are? The Canucks?

      • 19to77 - May 8, 2013 at 11:02 PM

        Keep making excuses, friend. Excuses are what the Canucks made all series, and they’ll net you the same result they got – an early start to the golf season.

      • stakex - May 8, 2013 at 11:07 PM

        While ironic, you have to admit…. checking your face when you got hit in the arm is pretty funny.

      • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 11:16 PM

        He hit his face on the ice if you look at that again

      • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 11:18 PM

        Am I saying he didn’t try to sell the call? Absolutely not. He did. BUT. A Pittsburgh Penguins fan complaining about embellishing is like going to a prostitute for a hug. Makes no sense

      • 19to77 - May 8, 2013 at 11:31 PM

        Heh. Yeah, I’m with you there.

  8. anthonykornheiser - May 8, 2013 at 10:35 PM

    i dont understand the argument and bickering.
    let’s call a spade a spade, the caps were lucky to lose by one.
    the rangers outshot them, hit posts as usual, outhit them 40-20 on the stat sheet, how is that even possible? and destroyed them in the faceoff circle. friday is a new day, but lets not make excuses. Rangers can very well come out and flop on friday night or keep the momentum but suck it up, the rangers deserved to win and friday is a new day and the series is still tied, relax.

    • blackfoot11 - May 9, 2013 at 9:37 AM

      Agreed, this series has been a street brawl that could have tilted either way for the Caps or Rangers in the four games of this series. The Caps have to cut out the silly penalties, tighten up a bit defensively, and come out firing on Friday night in the VC. This has been on hell of a series with two resilient teams. Go Caps!

  9. scottydooks - May 8, 2013 at 10:43 PM

    As mp1113 said, it’s always such a great series between these two. Home ice has been huge for each team and I believe will be the deciding factor. It’s going 7 and the Caps will edge them out because of the home ice….I hope…

  10. cruuuzcontrol - May 8, 2013 at 11:00 PM

    Ovechkin took a straight line run at Stepan and was lucky Stepan was aware enough to avoid getting a blow to the head from Ovi’s shoulder. There was intent to do damage there… Unfortunately for Ovi, the damage landed on his own teammate Erat

  11. mj1818 - May 8, 2013 at 11:02 PM

    Go rangers!

  12. 19to77 - May 8, 2013 at 11:03 PM

    Rangers are only going to continue to improve with a fully-healthy roster. Brassard was great tonight.

    • tfaltin - May 8, 2013 at 11:20 PM

      Brassard continues to impress. So much skill there with some passion for the game.

  13. billyhauntswizards - May 8, 2013 at 11:19 PM

    can Rick Nash, like, show up? D-Brass has 5 points in 2 games and has no big game experience at all, making him look awful.

  14. tfaltin - May 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM

    Great contributions from the Rangers lineup up and down the roster. Boyle, Clowe, Pyatt and Dorsett were all effective in the physical aspect. Brassard, Hagelin, Callahan, and Stepan were dynamic all night. McDonagh is doing an amazing job on Ovechkin, Girardi scored the big goal to put the Rangers up 3-2, Moore (outside of getting caught for that late 2 on 1) and Stralman had decent games blocking shots. That’s a recipe for success.

    For the Caps, it’s pretty obvious that the home ice will help get Ovi away from McDonagh to get him going. The best Cap was Joel Ward, far and away in my opinion. While he played great, if Ward is the best Cap the Rangers are going to win.

  15. chanceoffleury1 - May 8, 2013 at 11:35 PM

    It’s hard for any team to win 4 in a row. The series will probably end up going to 7. Who actually wins it will be anyone’s guess! I still think Rangers just based mostly on the fact I think Holtby will crack before Lundqvist does. As long as the Rangers don’t stop scoring completely and play clean hockey that keeps Washington off the powerplay I think they’ve got a good shot.

  16. Stiller43 - May 8, 2013 at 11:35 PM


    Im not coming out of the woodwork, im commenting from my home in lake ridge, VA (yeah, a caps market) on a game i watched all of.

    I never said anyone on the pens doesnt embellish, but checking your face for blood when you flop when youre hit in the ARM is over the top.

  17. valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 8, 2013 at 11:46 PM

    Anyone notice where Crazy 8 was hanging out on the 4th goal? There were 4 WSH players in the D zone but Ovi ‘C’ wasn’t in the frame until the goal was scored at which time he’s seen gliding (someone wrote that’s how he skates) into and out of frame. Looks like he was waiting for the bus at the red line while his teammates were playing D hockey.

    • ravenscaps48 - May 8, 2013 at 11:48 PM

      He Cherry Picks… Not something new

      • valoisjoeybfeld69 - May 8, 2013 at 11:50 PM

        Well! Again he demonstrated that he’s a defensive liability. What a floater. And what, 1 shot on net in this game.

  18. capitalspearljam - May 8, 2013 at 11:57 PM

    horrible game by the caps, cant blame anybody but themselves, in the box way to much, turnovers were embarrassing, hoping they will show up for game 5

  19. johnstone17 - May 9, 2013 at 12:07 AM

    I know fellow Ranger fans are going to be angry with me: Still haven’t seen them dominate a game yet.

    • mp1113 - May 9, 2013 at 12:28 AM

      they dominated most of this game unfortunately

    • barkar942 - May 9, 2013 at 12:40 AM

      Nope. You are 100% correct. But the advantage in games 3&4 to the Rangers.

  20. capsfan19 - May 9, 2013 at 6:45 AM

    Yea rags played well. Heres a talking point nash has been playing amazing… We are lucky he hasnt lit us up. Boyle’s line has been wearing us down.
    1st line really needs to get some tallies on the board. The caps will not win if their best players arent scoring bottom line (at least in my opinion) home ice or not.
    Shouldve been a penatly on chimera cross check, the goalie interference on him was so weak. Refs didnt even track the puck in the end of the 2nd to see if it left the ice, instead read off the reactions of the rags players (he didnt even have the freakin decency to turn his head to see where it went). Ovi charging call was soooo weak. Im not blamingthe game on the refs cause we only lost by one, but still rediculous calls. Just let them play.
    This swing is momentum is very troubling.

  21. helladonks - May 9, 2013 at 7:12 AM

    Oh lord. The Rangers are becoming more and more likely to keep Torts through next year, and those players and fans deserve better.

  22. magicrat13 - May 9, 2013 at 7:50 AM

    rangers have been getting a lot of great play by “role players” (e.g. boyle, brassard, etc) which is great to see….

    imho, mcdonough has been the mvp of the series thus far….his defense on ovi has been unreal….31+ minutes of ice time last night…..very impressive…

    now, if some of the bigger name players (e.g. nash, richards, etc) can step up, my blood pressure might be able to get back to normal levels…

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